 George Bruno with the 21 report. We are at the 21 summit in Orlando, Florida. The year is 2020 I'm having a conversation with Zach Small. Welcome to the show. Sorry. Thank you for having me. What did you talk about today? All right, which speech? Oh Good question because how many stages were you on? I was on two on two stages start with start with whatever one you want All right with patriarchs. I went up there I wanted to inspire the men whether talking about finding that passion and finding a way to light it and others So they got to go out these living example showing what family is start taking pride in being a father Not just being a dad who's there and showing up, but a man who's actually doing something and setting an example Then I went over to 22 con From there it was similar. I wasn't sure how to take it. It's my first time having a female audience I wasn't sure what I was diving into but I went up there and I just told my story And it was about how you need to live without trying to stay in the buoys of others You need a captain your ship and go where it is you want to go without worrying about it If somebody else is telling you to stay in your lane get out of your lane go where you want to go Don't worry about what others have to say about it. How was it received by the ladies? Well, all right. It seemed to be received well Yeah, yeah What is your impression of the 21 summit now? We combined the 21 convention The patriarch convention And the 22 convention make women great again All three were under the same roof in the same area Tell me what is your impression of the logistics how it Got pulled off. How how did we do? What do you think? You had meals You had to run security. You had to run travel plans. You had to ensure people were where they needed to be Three stages cameras everywhere and it was pulled off with with flawless execution to the point Where the only issue or complaint I heard is that man? There's so much going on. I wish I could watch them all That's a pretty good feedback. That's a testimonial and it's in your negative feedback I wish I could watch two things at once. You know, it's going on here. It's going on there You got this ladies one going on some of the ladies was asking me They wanted to go see some of the male speakers talk to the men It was it was incredible to see all of it coming together and it's a lot and we have corona I mean, there's so much in the way to make this not happen Travel here we are Yes, I mean, it's incredible that this even happened I wasn't sure it was going to and I was rooting for it the whole time and I was like, I'll be there But I really didn't know if it was going to be legally possible or physically possible for people to get here Yet here we are Why do women want to come and watch A man talk to men Why do you think that is? Why would they want to come over to the other rooms? I think it's the same reason men would love to see what was happening with the women You want hope you want a sense of wow like they get it Here's a group of people who want to be better. Sometimes I think that gets lost I think people forget there are people out there trying Because you see so much around you of just mediocrity of comfort And here we are a group of fathers looking to be better men and lead their families Those men want to see hey, there's women out there looking to do the same The men in the main 21 convention. They want to see look when I start a family It's still possible to have a sense of passion and purpose. I go to the other room I see there are quality high value women out there that are Quality that you want to create a family with It's inspirational people want hope more than anything in this dark world. They want that late I thought before the event started that Women might come to this to meet a potential mate. Do you think that could be happening? And could that happen in the future here? It's a quality tank of fish in there Yeah, I kind of thought the same thing The markets there, these are motivated men They're squaring away. They're looking to improve themselves. I don't know why you wouldn't want a man like that Especially when you look at the competition. Yeah It seemed like all the ladies were in dresses too dresses and skirts. I think they got there though everyone was just Several notches up That is one thing that I will say between so I've been here since 2017 And just people myself included You're always trying to raise the standard because you don't want to be the guy who did not improve from last year But for the first time with several first time attendees, I don't know if they've been watching the content Or seeing what you know That's convention at a large was sharing on youtube and through social media But they came and they brought their a game a majority of those who were here were dressed properly Conducted themselves appropriately. There were no Issues that I could see. Yeah, and I think those who came here Maybe a little under dressed or needed to work on physique mindset confidence learning how to speak to somebody appropriately I think they'll be back next year and you're going to see a change. I think so too I think so too. I didn't want to say that before I asked you that question But I I feel that they will be back. Absolutely. Yeah, I feel like this was a taste because this is somewhat Operating within the capacity we can operate in I think if you took all the shackles off and all the anchors off This could have been even larger and this was big Yeah, so next year they're going to want to see it at full force and full power. It's a big risk patriarch was a risk We didn't know how that was going to fly 22 convention make women great again Honestly, honestly, I really didn't know how that was going to go Do you think it was a success That alone the 22 convention the 22 alone I think works because we have a strong man leading this organization and he's looking out for women And that is what we preach in patriarch That's what we preach in the main and that's what happened here Men were looking out for women men who were Anthony put himself on the line time and time again. He was the lightning rod Huge huge news agencies huge social media figures were slamming him And he just smiled and kept going. He's like, you're not going to stop me Somebody has to look out for these women. Why not me? And if you have an issue with what I'm doing build it yourself, but nobody will There's nothing out there that's offering this to women. Anthony created something I'm very glad you played a a miniscule part in this but my role as a speaker I go on I entertain I bring value to these women. I try to pass my lessons to them All the speakers did but anthony at the top made this happen There's a lot of men's organizations That are having women suck Conferences, there's a lot of women's organizations saying men suck We're not like that We love women and the women that showed up love men That's weird It's against it's against what's happening in the culture We're almost like doing the opposite Of what's happening in the culture now Are men and women made for each other? Men and women are the ultimate complement to each other That's a fact but that's when the woman's being a woman the man's being a man. Yeah, when you speak of these groups That's why we're here. That's why this is working. Yeah, those other ones. They're They're trying to rise that raise themselves up by pushing somebody else down Yeah, those men push the women down because we're better Oh those women push the men down because we're better and here we are We're gonna work together and build each other up like a rising tide men and women improving. That's what we're doing And you know what it works They work were complementary like a union we fit as long as we're doing what we do There was a lot of truth told here this entire conference in all the rooms People dropping truth bombs. What's a Typical truth bomb that might be told to the women from the stage You're not special That one really really stuck out. It's like everybody knows that you're a unique individual But you're not going to be the only purpose of another person You're not so special that you're somebody else's sole purpose and their job is to make sure you're comfortable and happy Their job is to grow themselves to develop themselves and along the way take care protect provide preside We talked about all that We shared that with the women but that I think shook a lot of them is that our goal is beyond our woman She's a part of the journey. She's not the destination Yeah In 2017 from the stage that was my first year here as well You said she is not the mission. She joins the mission, but she is not the mission I remember you talking about that Hasn't changed has it no it has Give me a truth bomb that might have been told at the patriarch convention. I mean Your children will always and your woman will always follow the example that you said they're not going to follow your advice I think I've said that about a thousand times I never gonna say that it has to be said people think that they can talk their way to success or emulation or respect You earn it through action People can say they want it bad, but you'll see what they do What do they really want? Yeah How about a truth bomb in the 21 convention in that? Hall over there The main one of the patriarchs the main one. Okay, so in the main one those men got to find out you weren't special No woman is going to be like, oh, I'm going to submit to your authority I'm going to make babies for you and you can just sit there and eat your Doritos No, just because he's a man. Yeah, some men think it In that you're not you're also not something that's special These guys think that they're little no these snowflakes and it's like Yeah, there's there's millions of people out there. I'll find that she'll find a man That will be strong be capable competent confident go out there and make strong babies Takes effort to be a top tier man and a top tier woman Absolutely It's weird talking about women from this interview room. This is the first time we're doing it Talking about women in a constructive way I like the direction we're headed It's only getting better. That's something that I said this during the patriarchs red main group You know, we were sitting on the panel and I I couldn't help but express I Stand behind everything this group is doing and it's only getting better So if I if I put my entire reputation and name on the line for anything that goes for this group And it's only getting better. It's just incredible. We've achieved so much and we're Every year it's like we're getting started and it's nope next year. We're going bigger next year We're going to do more next year. We supported men Mind body spirit we supported fathers divorced Wanting to become fathers maybe future patriarchs men struggling men thriving then we go over there and now we're like hey We'll help the women too Single divorced married. We're going to help you see where we're coming from We're going to help you maybe raise your bar and find out. Why aren't you satisfied? Do you think you're checking the right boxes? You're listening to the wrong person reading the wrong list Yeah You've been involved since 2017 You talk about the direction that we're now going in. What is that direction? of unity We are the light in where everybody else wants darkness We're the hope where everybody else wants fear in that room when you spoke today men saw hope There's a man going out there telling a story And they see themselves in that story when they go home They're going to share that story and they're going to become a character in that story who makes it End the way they want it to end 2020 how are we going to end the way they want it to end the way they make it end They ended by making better relationships with their sons and their daughters Their wife their friends that they might have blown off People who may have had good intentions by telling them some Giving them some tough love You know and at first they might have been a little abrasive, but then they come back You were right and i'm better because of it 21 con is a lighthouse and it's keeping men from smashing on the rocks of depression suicide grief loss preventable apathetic existence And then going to their grave never knowing what it means to be proud and confident Speaking from the chat. I mean every I can go on I can do a whole other speech on just this Because that's what 21 con is doing for these men and we see it and the next year I can't wait to see the men from this year. I'm like man. Look at you. You're better in so many ways yeah You started an organization called the fraternity of excellence. Yes, sir. You had several of those members here Is the mission of 21 Compatible with the mission of fraternity of excellence It's called the fraternity of excellence Because every man within those walls is expected to be pursuing excellence In every endeavor of his life That is not to say that the men in there are excellent in every area right now Some of them come in and they're they're hurt like a burb is a broken wing. They're wounded So all right, that's okay. We'll build you back up And then I guess what they'll start flying again And then they start looking for ways to improve Some stay they start working with the newer men coming in some go and they just live excellent lives I cannot see any way that that deviates from what 21 con is doing Yeah, we're sharing all these different ways and you may not be perfect and that's why anthony provides the experts We have the the finance guys. We have the fitness guys. We have the the family men. I probably fall out of that category We have, you know, the lifestyle guys the style of guys In every endeavor of what a man needs to be we're offering an expert to teach you how to be that That's what f we does. That's what fraternity of excellence is all about Working people find out more about you If you want to find out more about me, I'm primarily active on twitter and instagram. So that's at zack small underscore For my writing my work. That's the family alpha.com If you want my brotherhood, we're men are getting after it day in and day out As long as you're a man fraternity of excellence dot com excellent Men getting after it I like that. It's not a bad thing A conversation with zack small. Thank you, sir. Thank you