 What's up everyone. Welcome into the week 11 Sunday night recap presented by fan dual. I'm your host. As always by my very handsome and always interjecting co-host John Luke and J. What's up boys. What up. What's happening. You're doing all right today. Good day. Oh yeah. Good day. I definitely didn't fall asleep on the couch while watching some of these games I think I know what game you had on. You must have had the Patriots Jets game on right. Oh boy. Stinker until the very end. I'm going to start using that one at night instead of melatonin I think just throw that. Here's your FC North games right here in the spot. I would like to prescribe to you some twenty twenty two New England Patriots show up with the insomnia immediately because we got some people in the chat ready for today's show Albert in here. What's up Albert. Welcome in glad to have you here. And just killer and you say what a blowout this Cowboys game is. Yeah I did not see that coming it is nuts what's going on. I feel like it was. It was because everyone finally said OK. The Vikings are good right like like right. The Vikings were good I feel like there was a switch. Same thing happened exactly as soon as everyone agrees they're like. The NFL just comes so fast my friend changes what we're thinking and Albert. In the NFL is a son of a bitch. Every single time right it's not like college every time I say that and then Tennessee goes out there and loses to an under ranked South Carolina like they score sixty three points on him so I guess parody exists over there as well. And just killer saying I actually said I think the Cowboys are going to win this nice call my man. Nice call. I thought I did not think this was a possibility this level of blowout is absolutely nuts. Guys today we're going to be breaking down all of these games that have taken place in previewing tonight Sunday night football game before we do that though a couple reminders first and foremost if you're watching this video thank you so much for joining us tonight if you're on Facebook and you like what you're seeing go ahead and hit that like button same thing on YouTube and then subscribe to FanDuel while you're there there's a big red button right below the video after you do that you should find FanDuel on TikTok Instagram Twitter they have a whole team of killer content creators helping you guys win some cash and win your leagues and it's almost playoff time baby so make sure you are following everywhere over there you guys ready to get into some of these games let's do it still I figure we would go ahead and start with this Sunday night football matchup preview this game tonight after some of the boring games today I am hoping for an absolute barn burner between the Kansas City Chiefs and the Los Angeles Chargers and our friends over the FanDuel Sportsbook seem to be alluding to that being a pretty good possibility 52 and a half over under the Chiefs five and a half point favorites on the road in this one I'm expecting a good game but what I'm really excited about is we are going to see this Los Angeles Chargers team almost back to full force health wise offensively Mike Williams is expected to be back in this offensive saying he's playing no snap count Keenan Allen also going to play that they have stated he will likely be on a snap count tonight we're going to see these guys back in the offense for the first time in a while together Jay with these guys coming back first game back Keenan Allen on a pitch count Mike Williams saying he's a full go what is your confidence level in starting these two Chargers wide receivers tonight I'm a lot more confident in Mike Williams he's the one who's been you know confident all week saying that he was going to get in and it looks like he shouldn't have a snap count you know Keenan Allen I feel like he's he's always confident he could be you know have a spring to echo and he's oh yeah I'm going to play I'm going to play and then go out there and do and not play so I'm more confident going with Mike Williams but honestly if these guys are active they're the type of players that I'm starting even on a snap count Keenan Allen can have a good game John Luke this morning when we were talking through some of this you were pretty hesitant to put Keenan Allen in your lineups is that changed now that they've said he is playing but he's on a snap counter does it make you even more reserved to start him it's the same it hasn't changed because this is this is what I expected it was either going to be this route this outcome or he was just going to be ruled out entirely I didn't expect them to be suited up and completely completely get rid of the injury status here so it's it's largely the same I'm more concerned for Keenan Allen if you have to play him tonight cool with it he's Keenan Allen and he does good stuff his work is very good when he plays but don't be surprised if you get a little bit of a stinker tonight it's a possibility he could do good stuff on eight snaps know what I mean and then and then you're probably not too thrilled for fantasy like you can see good stuff on a very small sample size and if he's on a high scoring game that's that that is like the fact that he can have a great game today means it probably should play in most situations yeah I'm with you at this point right yeah if you're making this decision I think you already made a decision it's Keenan Allen or you're going to pick up Cornell Powell and his first NFL start and plug him in on the waiver why I like Ray Ray McLeod I mean which one that's Keenan Allen over Ray Ray McLeod the chance of meatballs 100% I'm just gonna say like 1500 point per pass or punt return then go Ray Ray McLeod in that case oh I mean now this my Joe you say that like half Joe give me my girlfriend's league with the crazy scoring has that punt return yards like it is like it is like a full point per punt return yard or something absurd like that and so it's like point per punt return yard and so Ray Ray McLeod is actually like a superstar player one on that league like there was like a battle on the waiver wire for Ray Ray McLeod once people figured out how the scoring system worked you had to get us like a screenshot of like his his game log in that league I'll get one for you my girlfriend's like should I pick him up and I was like no and then she showed me his game logs and I was like pull out the league same game I don't even think this is the same game this is not famously football this is a fantasy punt return or something like that also on the chargers side of the ball I know Justin Herbert has been a little bit disappointing for fantasy not that he's been bad he just hasn't been to that level that you expected of him whenever you drafted him now hopefully he's getting healthier each week and with these two wide receivers back John Luke do you think we're going to see a second half renaissance for Justin Herbert over the back eight games of this season I don't know if you can call it a renaissance because this is what we wanted but they're expected to come into the season right this is like the chargers year everything's working for them and but I think that they can get back to that it seems that they are they're getting there you know after these these injuries earlier on in the season it's been it's been rough absolutely on the other side of the ball for the Kansas City Chiefs I see just killer in here saying pretty sure we're missing a few players if I'm not mistaken Juju is out yes Juju Smith Schuster and Meekle Hardman both out Meekle Hardman was put on the IR Juju Smith Schuster still I believe in concussion protocol right from that hit last week so he is not playing this week but that provides opportunity for some of the other receiving options in this offense and we all know the hot name this week the hot name in fantasy has been one Marquette Valdez Tony Kaderious Tony's been the hot name John Luke I feel like every question we've gotten about whether or not to start Kaderious Tony we've wanted to say Kaderious Tony whether or not he was the right answer what are your expectations for Tony tonight with these top two options out and what's supposed to be a shootout top 24 top 12 like what are you hoping for from him I think I think top 24 is absolutely in his range of outcomes tonight I think they're going to try and work more into this offense the snap share hasn't really been there yet but it's expected right he's a wide receiver coming into the team midseason they obviously want him because they traded for him and they're starting to get more involved and I think the Miko Hardman the Juju Smith Schuster injuries are just accelerating that so I would expect tonight I think I think wide receipt like back end wide receiver two is probably his around like his upper left left left right left right right around like his upper level but more likely maybe high end wide receiver I man for him the range of outcomes for me are just all over they're big they're oh yeah we could very wide it's be an MVS game or MVS is featured it's MVS Travis Kelsey maybe they get the running game going and Kaderious Tony gets his couple of plays designed for him but I could also see Kaderious Tony after going 4% of snaps his first week 45% of snaps his second week kind of starting to get that full about jail I'm not convinced of it but that's well within his range of outcomes and if that's the case if a player of that caliber that electric is on the field for the Kansas City Chiefs in a shootout without their top two wide receivers then man the sky's the limit like this dude could be it could be a huge game for Tony I'm fine taking the risk like there's so much upside here that I want that risk in my lineup and if it's a stinker it's a stinker Jay how you feeling about Mr. Tony as the wide receiver one on the week I could see him finishing with a goose egg it's a wide range hot Coolster in here saying I have Mike Williams and Keenan Allen but can only play one who am I playing John Luke who you plugging in Mike Williams Mike Will give me big Mike you agree Jay clean sweet one of them's on a snap count one of them's not so Keenan Allen is on a snap count Mike Williams are saying is a full go I think Mike Williams is a better receiver at this point I agree but that just makes it super easy right one of these guys is not playing every snap the other one they have not said that yet also Albert and here letting us know this Bronkers Raiders game is going to overtime O.T. Sir and Mr. Scammers in here with the hi guys what's up Scams games glad to have you we all wanted to go to overtime this week right the Broncos Raiders game there's worse games I could have picked yeah there was three going overtime yeah no thanks I would have been out on that one the other thing I wanted to talk about on this Kansas A.B. side of the ball before we get into the games that happened already today is the running back situation so we saw Isaiah Pacheco kind of take over as the lead back and when I say kind of I mean Clyde Edwards Alair had four snaps last week he was not involved in that Jail are you buying into the fact that Pacheco is now the lead back in this offense do you think we're going to see a gross split with him and CEH I think we're still going to see a rotation but I think Pacheco is making a case to get probably the biggest share it's really going to depend on game and game script and so I don't think that we're going to have clarity and I think if we know I pretty much agree with you said the one thing I will say is I do think it is going to lean more on Pacheco side I think CEH will be more involved in just four snaps but Pacheco is just looked like the better player on the field has been more explosive the problem is is Jerick McKinnon is in there and the two minute drill passing down Pacheco is really the guy that you know I like Pacheco but I think you have to really consider that his upside is really a middling RV2 yeah I tend to agree with you guys on that one but he's startable he's a startable running back in fantasy so if you got to start him you can start him and this is a fun game to start any of the players in before we move on from here we had a question from Coolster in here I'm guessing one Mr. Tony Pollard is one of those two running backs yeah I was going to Jamal Williams could be another one maybe you started Tony Pollard the back up running backs leading you to victory this week Coolster that's my final guess Joe who else do you think he started Tony Pollard and oh maybe some magic he ran super desperate super desperate he ran Pollard and Jamal RB2 he said RB2 Simon oh I didn't even see the RB2 right there RB2 the two RB2s yeah 100% I just completely ignored that second number two guys we're going to get into these games that have happened so far today but before we do that unfortunately part of fantasy is talking about the injuries that took place we got to keep our eye on them Jay you want to give us a rundown of the injuries that happened today across the league recently significant ones that happened Wondale Robinson for the New York Giants he was having a great game caught the ball went out of bounds and pulled up and grabbed his knee it looked like it was due to the turf at Midlife Stadium unfortunately he was quickly ruled out I'm not sure what's going to go on with him Matthew Stafford left again with another concussion this is now two concussions within three weeks I would not be surprised to see him miss extended time especially with the way the Rams are playing Kyle Pitts unfortunately went down got tackled his knee twisted could be MCL ACL still too early to know but he was ruled out as well did not look good I'm going to be honest Justin Fields although he didn't leave the game he was in a lot of pain in the second half of that game he didn't run around quite as much as he was he was grimacing on the bench grabbing his shoulder he played the whole game but they carted him off from the sideline to the back to get his shoulder checked so don't know what's going on with his shoulder we'll have to see with the practice reports this week if he's expected to miss any time but it didn't look good he was hurting that could be major I mean if he's limited in any fashion I feel like it just takes all of his upside away you know what I mean even if he plays but he plays through this part of that is his willingness to run to take off to scramble to improvise and if he's injured if they're trying to protect him like that that honestly is the reason they lost the game in my opinion because he had to pull back and he was he was the Justin Fields of the past few weeks first half of the game second half it was it was a muted version and then two two injuries in the late games Joe Mixon left the game with a concussion and Jalen Warren also left the game with a hamstring injury yeah Albert in here coming in with the Joe Mixon concussion yeah hopefully hopefully he's all right we can get him back on the field healthy relatively soon but always scary watching those head injuries we had a question in here from Coolster Coolster wanted to know how did Barclay have a bad game against the Lions run defense that is a great question Coolster I thought it was a slam dunk play and I had the same question so I started looking into it a little bit afterwards like this seemed like a slam dunk why the hell wasn't it and isn't as bad as the statistics make it look whenever you look further into it they've played some nasty rushing quarterbacks who have really buoyed the numbers of the like the rushing stats against the Lions so if you look if you just look at like rushing stats against the Lions it looks god awful but really the way to beat this team is through the air like they've got Okuta and then everyone else is just free reign you can throw it to whoever you want that Okuta isn't isn't covering I'm not for sure this was a slam dunk Saquon game this seemed like he was just going to run all over the place we got scams in here saying I missed three five like Parley's one by three Monty rush yards another one by five Jonathan Taylor rush yards and another one by five McClure receiving yards respectfully he said I'm almost awesome at betting also Albert in here coming in Devonte Adams with the game-winning touchdown in overtime looks like the Raiders and Josh McDaniels are going to pull this one out after losing to the Jeff Saturday led Colts last week and I I think that's a good segue into this game then the game just ended the Raiders pulled this one out in overtime 22 to 16 today this yeah this was pretty wild to see the Broncos which we I just lost the entire sad screen hold on give me one second this is like the game ended and this and the thing like P of S just completely went to a different screen for me yeah so Raiders pulling out the victory in this one Broncos actually didn't play too bad and plays you bad this this game Russell Wilson had ended the game Josh Jacobs had had a day doesn't Josh Jacobs thing 24 sorry 24 carries for 109 yards yeah Josh Jacobs fantastic and then Devontae Adams 13 target seven receptions 141 yards 36.1 fantasy points Devontae Adams back boys are you guys how you guys feeling about Devontae Adams rest of season how does this playoff schedule look he is one of those top tier players I don't even care he's playing in the playoffs you just plug in Devontae Adams he's in there with the Justin Jeffersons with the Tyreek Hills he is a top five fantasy football wide receiver and the nice thing about this offense is usually usually it's the usual suspects that are the fantasy relevant players it's the Josh Jacobs it's the Devontae Adams right like Matt Collins could have a big game here and there maybe we see some of these other options and the offense for fantasy and I I love that makes it so much clearer for us so in the playoff okay so the raiders have been abysmal but Devontae Adams still finds a way to get his so in the playoffs they play New England week 15 which is a pretty tough matchup week 16 they get Pittsburgh which that's what you love to see for a wide receiver I mean it doesn't matter what the matchups are Devontae Adams is an automatic play must start with a pretty pretty solid week 16 week 17 there's potential there for him to leave to use some fantasy championships yeah absolutely Matt Collins had a decent game nine targets six receptions 52 yards 11.2 fantasy points filling in for Hunter Henry Hunter Renfrow who's the other guy and Darren Waller Matt Collins he's someone that you guys starting week in week out 11.2 fantasy points ain't too bad you expect that next week he's a he's a fill-in he's a start a bull player on this Raiders offense but he's not going to be consistent this offense like I said runs through Josh Jacobs and Devontae Adams but Matt Collins is talented and we've seen him have a couple big games this year right so I think he's startable but he's not a player on forcing into my line ups Simon said everything I would have said it was nice to see him have a decent fantasy game without a touchdown right for him to just put up like with enough volume to have a decent game instead of just that big play touchdown which is like he is a vertical threat for this team but maybe maybe a couple more weeks of this we'll see him become more trustworthy but for now he's still just like a bi-week fill-in kind of guy for me I think he's startable of flex I think I think that's right now where he's at back in wide receiver to territory and the other guy who is probably the last one that's worth noting on this rater side is Boston Marot who a lot of people filled in their tight end spot you have tight end and buyer flexed in Boston Marot this week three targets one reception 33 yards no touchdowns 4.3 fantasy points it's a stinker tight end glob stinker on the Broncos side of this Latavius Murray three of the carries here 17 carries 49 yards and a touchdown Melvin Gordon got eight carries for 31 yards no touchdowns is this Latavius Murray's backfield now I mean it should be like they got to stop giving Melvin Gordon the ball on the goal line dude just keeps coughing it up over and over and over again and I was the biggest Melvin Gordon fan going into this season I thought he was a slim dump traffic where he was going but something's off and the ball up they're getting lucky that they're recovering most of these that he drops but like no touchdowns dude should have had a touchdown he got a carry on the one yard line like was in the end zone and then throws the ball away I'm you can't start Melvin Gordon it's Latavius Murray if you're starting any of these backs but honestly I don't even really want to start Latavius Murray 2.9 yards per carry the only reason for a first drive from Russell Wilson I'm really avoiding this Denver backfield at all costs they got a lot of a decent amount of receiving work four targets for Latavius Murray five targets for Melvin Gordon and 17.2 to 12 point you know fantasy point performances respectively from from Mary and Melvin Gordon that's pretty decent it's pretty decent fantasy performance we'll have to see if it continues it was a mediocre game it was like a perfect Cortland Sutton game five perceptions on seven targets 80 yards no touchdowns 13 points just being exactly what he's been all year which is all right it was a stinker for what you thought this game should have been against the Raiders without Jerry Judy without Jerry Judy against the Raiders this should have been a slam dunk Cortland Sutton game and it just wasn't it was fine it was it was fine so Clint Kubiak took over play calling for the Broncos and it did look like it made a positive difference for this offense so I don't know what the hell Nathaniel Hackett's job is anymore like if he's not managed plays but maybe they just need them there standing on the sideline let everyone else do everything because it worked out this team looked better than they have looked in recent weeks offensively the touchdown would have counted I feel like that would have got Russell Wilson in the right mindset but yeah I'm with you completely this looked like a different team and I am excited for Russell Wilson hopefully playing a little better down the stretch also cool steering here saying another week another disappointing Greg Dulcich game or really it's another bad Wilson game Wilson was fine enough in this week but it was a disappointing performance five fantasy points but if they get a touchdown you're pretty happy but he's one of the ones I like in that glob the most just because of the volume that he generally gets Maria said is it just mirrored does the backwards hat make Jay look younger Jay it takes 10 years off you look 40 you're lucky I love you so not all depressed about having my birthday this week or anything either so thanks a lot I know you're 20 years old Jay think you're perfect for a deny let's just say it's it's over I'm not gonna go and you wouldn't go way over like in pole perception but it's over it's all the 22 you've ever seen we got slick they can the chat What's up slick Vic welcome I give you in here a shout out to incredible achievement. I think 42. Maybe I hope I'm not wrong. Sorry, mom. One of those numbers. Almost as old as you. The next game I wanted to talk about was this Dallas Cowboys Minnesota Vikings. Not technically over yet game, but this one's been over since just about half time. The Cowboys are up 40 to three in this one. I guess let's start on the cowboy side of the ball because there's not much to talk about on the Minnesota side. But Jack Prescott, 22 for 25, 276 yards and two touchdowns. Cooper Rush has come into this game. Of course, it's because I dropped him today in fantasy. And now look at this. He's got 31 passing yards and I look like an idiot for dropping. Those are the worst. Just drop a guy that goes off. It just hurts your soul. I know. I just can't believe I did that. But Jack Prescott looking pretty hot in this one looked like he's going to help fantasy managers to a victory. John Luke, Dak was injured earlier in this year as we know, came back. Do you think he is in that like top five quarterback conversation rest of season? Well, let's lay him out. We got Josh Allen. We got Patrick Mahomes. We got Herbert. We got Jalen Hertz at this point. But Jalen Hertz above Dak. We got Lamar, but him above Dak. So no, not top five. I mean, but all of those guys you think are clearly above him rest of season. Every single one of those things. Oh, rest of season. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe Justin Herbert isn't. I love, don't get me wrong. I love Lamar Jackson. I got his jersey right over here, but he's not been that Lamar Jackson in the first couple of weeks. I don't know if you can automatically put him in the top five right now. Yeah, I think that's fair. Rest of season. I wasn't answering based off just in general going into next season. But I think that you can make an argument that if you want Dak over to Lamar, that's fine. I'm still taking Lamar over Dak for the Russian. And I am too, even though I just argued the exact opposite. But just say Lamar has kind of tapered off from the hot start that he had this season. But he's on that line, I think is the point of what I was getting at here. Like Dak is in that conversation to be one of those top tier guys. And I wouldn't be shocked at the end of the season if we see this Cowboys offense keep rolling. And Dak's the top five quarterback down the way. He's got the skill set to do it. And he's got a healthy offense as well now. The real star of this show was running back Tony Pollard. 15 carries for 80 yards, but it's some real damage in the receiving game. Six targets, six receptions, 109 yards and two touchdowns, making him the top scorer and running back on the week so far. Unless Samajé Pirine just passed him with that third touchdown that he scored. Jay, do you think Tony Pollard is going to take over this backfielder? Or are we going to yet again have this conversation again next week that Jerry Jones will not let it happen with Zeke? I think you just said exactly what's going to happen with Jerry Jones. He's going to come out and say, I think Tony Pollard could have came out through for two touchdowns, ran for two touchdowns, and caught two touchdowns. And Jerry Jones would say, Dallas Cowboys go as Zeke goes, because that's just Jerry Jones him and his salty Egg McMuffins. There's no doubt. I mean, anybody who's watched a Cowboys game this year, when they're both on the field that Tony Pollard is the best Dallas running back in a number of ways. Yeah. Honestly, yeah. Dee Thomas said it perfectly. He's right now, he's the best offensive threat that the Cowboys have. I love CD Lamb, but he hasn't lived up to those lofty expectations when Tony Pollard has. I think that it's going to be all lip service, though. I think that the Cowboys know if they want to make a run, if they want to make the playoffs and go deep in the playoffs, it's got to be through Tony Pollard. Zeke is just at that end. He's had so many miles on those legs. He's not the player that he once was, and Tony Pollard is in the prime of his career. And man, does he look good. Well, we also have to look at the fact that Zeke Elliott is coming off of injury into this game. So it's not like both players are healthy and everything is all equal. So there is, I still think that there's going to be the split. 15 carries each perfectly down the center. That just is more evidence for this. It's not going to switch to Pollard, despite how we want the, just because he has, you know, he's running better with each run. Here's the thing. Why would the Cowboys just solely put all the work in Pollard's hands if they're making a playoff run, right? Why wouldn't they use the asset that they have with Zeke? It doesn't make sense to give all of that work to Pollard and then have him sputter out. And then what are you left with, right? Just Zeke in the playoffs. This seems seven and three now. That's awesome. If I'm going to make that argument with Elijah Mitchell and CMC, which I am, I'm going to make that argument over and over again. And I think they're going to use Elijah Mitchell because they're a playoff team looking to compete for a Super Bowl. They want to keep both backs healthy. These backs are so much closer than Mitchell and CMC are. Pollard and Zeke, of course, they're going to split it. I'm with you, Jail. They don't run NFL teams like fantasy teams. Like it's, there's this disconnect there, right? And I think a lot of fantasy managers think that, oh, Pollard's doing better. He's getting more points. Why did they put him in? Except sometimes NFL teams do. And then sometimes they do. Because it's so much easier to figure out what's going on. You know, I brought up Pollard, but Zeke had himself a pretty good game as well. 15 carries, 42 yards. He wasn't wildly efficient, but he got two touchdowns as well. Added a reception for five yards. So Jail, to your point, you can start both of these guys week in, week out, I think. The Dallas Cowboys have a plethora of fantasy relevant options that you can throw into your lineup. I'm the Vikings side of the ball. Jail, anything to add? Jay? I love that. I think that's about all I've got to add as well. There's really not much I'm taking from this game for a fantasy perspective. When you get down this big, it changes the entire flow of the game. And it's difficult to take away, like, takeaways that are going to apply in the future weeks, right? Because Minnesota's not going to be down 20 to three at halftime every week. But what happened? I don't know. Jay, what happened to the ball this week today? What happened? It's, Kirk Cousins didn't play at 1 p.m. That's pretty much the only explanation that I have because this team has looked phenomenal up until this point in prime time. I just, I don't get it. You think they just, like, someone messed with the clocks in the locker room and as he was going on the field, he looked up and it said 8 p.m. And he was like, oh, shit. Oh, no. It was the memo that the NFL sent out that players aren't allowed to drink on the flights back. And they were like, you know what, if we can't party and, you know, put our dreams on Kirk Cousins and, you know, you know, Bush Latte and it's, you know, ain't going to do it. Ain't going to show up. It's not worth it. The no fun league saying no drinking on airplanes. That's what airplanes are for, right? Yeah. He's drinking on an airplane. Grown men or anything like that over the age of 21. How dare they drink after a game? Yeah, those hooligans, that's ridiculous that the NFL's making that rule. Kirk Cousins deserves to be pissed at them. But this is a brutal game for the Vikings. Hopefully they bounce back. I still think this is a good team, but when you get in a hole that big, it's tough to recover. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is tough to recover. We had a question in here, guys, before we move on to our next game. Lamb couple wanted to know, should I trade Swift away for Mike Evans? Jail, would you be making this move? I would be okay with it. It's close in terms of value. This would be a team-dependent move. So if you need a wide receiver, and this trade makes your team better, then I'm about it. Yeah. I like Mike Evans' rest of season better than DeAndre Swift's rest of season, so I'll take Mike Evans. Jay, what about you? Yeah. If you were to ask me this question a few weeks ago, even with DeAndre Swift on the shelf, I would have said hang on to him, because when he's fully healthy, I think he's one of a handful of running backs that can be considered as the RB1 overall. Now, obviously he would be a dark horse, but I think he's got the talent and the skillset to do it. But, man, he's just... I don't know if he's just not fully healthy, or if they're just not wanting to run him into the ground like you guys were talking about. Obviously, the Lions aren't going to make a playoff run, but they're looking long-term. And he's just not getting the work. There was even talk. He was upset with how much work he was getting, and I believe he only had like five minutes. And I believe he only had like five carries today. So I think you make this move. Depending on your team, as long as you're not running back needy, I think this is a great move. Absolutely. Guys, let's go ahead and move on to our next game, the Cincinnati Bengals versus the Pittsburgh Steelers. The Bengals currently are up 37 to 23 in this one, but there's about two minutes left. We're about to hit that two-minute warning here. Yeah, Joe Burrow, even without Jamar Chase, is looking pretty good, especially today. I think, you know, Samanjay Piran just stepped in for Jamar Chase as the wide receiver threat on this offense. Three touchdowns for Samanjay Piran today on four catches, 52 yards. And he was even getting some work before Joe Mixon left this game with a concussion. So Levin Carries, 30 rushes. You really, you have to like what you've seen from Samanjay Piran. JL with not knowing the situation with Joe Mixon. Let's say Joe Mixon is going to miss at least one game. Is Samanjay Piran the top pickup for this week? Yeah, probably. Probably the Bengals, that Bengals offense, being the prime running back on that team is very nice. That's a great opportunity. Behind him, Travion Williams. It's clearly Samanjay Piran is the next guy up. And he's good enough. He's good enough. We've seen him play throughout the years. He's had like at least, what, three to five years of his career? Probably more than three. I think five. Five sounds right. And he's been decent. Nothing crazy, but decent. So yeah, he'd probably be the number one pickup. The number of times I've drafted Samanjay Piran. Oh my God. This is the year. He's been on my team so many times. And now I'm very quickly off. Exactly. I have dropped him in week two so many times Samanjay Piran. Fantasy team slut. He got those touchdowns today, though. I saw Mr. Scampers in here earlier, if I can find it saying, and this is why I still have Samanjay Piran on my dynasty rosters. Just been holding on to Samanjay Piran the whole time. There we go. This is why I still have Piran on my dynasty teams. And sometimes I just can't give up. I wonder if I, I think I might have to start him in one league. I'll have to double check about that. And one that I was telling you I was tanking. Just have to find somebody with a pulse that's on the field. But T Higgins has looked like the number one wide receiver. We knew he could be on any other team if he didn't have Jomar Chase on the team with the nine receptions, 140 something yards. No touchdowns. He did leave the game briefly. He came down pretty hard on his hip. I looked a little scary because he screamed out in pain, but he was able to return to this game. Joe Burrow, they're talking that Jomar Chase is going to be able to potentially come back this week. You can't say enough good things about Joe Burrow, whatever it's that, you know, not having Jomar Chase. Joe makes him leave in this game. He's just looked really, really good. The offensive line is finally starting to gel. You know, there was some concern that all these big moves that they made in the off season weren't paying off. Well, it takes, takes an offensive line sometimes to work together and, you know, become one unit. He's looked great on the other side of the ball. Can you pick it? I like that. Mr. Scampers accidentally adding the Michael P run. Oh no. You know what? Don't be right. Yeah, just like, what was it? Who was it on the Panthers that there was another, was it more or who was it? There was multiple more. There was a DJ more and a David more, right? David more, that's right. Yep. Yeah, that happened last year. But Pittsburgh Steelers, Nashi Harris, you know, getting to work, looking really good. Jail, I saw the tweet you sent out that his cleats were moon shoes. Moon shoes. Nice. Yeah, that was, I like that one. There's always a couple of plays where I just like gasp, you know, like in the middle of him or is what? I'm like, look at this. And that was one of them. I was like, oh, it's awesome. He is one of the players who will take any opportunity to get airborne. To hurt him. Like, like he's, it doesn't matter if it's a hurdle or not. You knew that he was thinking about it. You knew that he was already doing this. I would be right. It is the top thought in his mind is like, yeah, it felt so unnecessary. He jumped unnecessarily high for it too. Like it was like more theatrical than it needed to be. And you could tell that he was just going into it as he was running up to the guy. You're right. You nailed that, Simon. He's so much fun to watch. And he scored. The score bot just said the stealers just scored again. So it did. Najee Harris. Let's go. Najee Harris, another one. So he jumped over the pile. Of course he did. Another airborne touchdown for Najee. I love him. He's looked good. Guys, very simply, as Najee back is a every week low end RB1. I'm still viewing him as like an RB2. Najee Harris, I know we had a great game today, but I want to see more of it. And I think RB2 is not an insult. Like he's a high end RB2. There's a lot of good running backs. This stealers team is not good. I know they put up 30 points here today. That offensive line is bad. This efficiency is something that we generally don't see from Najee Harris. Last year, this year, him running at over four yards a clip, four and a half yards a rush attempt is not what we expect from Najee Harris, especially behind this O-line this year. So he's still a high end RB2 for me. But he moved maybe from that back end RB2 up to that high end RB2 range. I think there's a distinction here that's been bothering me about Najee Harris all season where people are like talking about Najee as if he's not a good running back. And that's like, it doesn't quite, there's like some cognitive dissonance with me because I'm like, I don't think it's the fact that it's his talent at all. I think this is a combination of injury. I think it's combination of situation and circumstance that has kept him limited here. But if he's healthy and he's back going into next season, I'm going to be drafted him, I feel like a lot higher than most people because I'm not going to be expecting this type of performance again. And last year, he didn't have a good offensive line either. I think you put him in a situation like Jonathan Taylor's situation. What Najee would be running over four yards a Gary every game, right? I think he would be incredible. So I think there's a distinction there. This season, I don't know that they're going to really turn it around, right? And I think that's the, I agree with you there. So I'm like, rest of the season, he's probably going to be more of an RB2 level. I'm with you, fully with you. And I will say like, we've never drafted Najee Harris because of his efficiency. No, to me, no one was drafting Najee Harris this year and saying it's because he runs four and a half yards. Kerry, it's because of the volume. It's because he's the dude and he's going to get that work. It was nice to see him do that work today. And it's the volume and talent, but he's not an efficient runner. Not buying this Steelers offensive line. And I think he hit the nail on the head, Jail. I think he was more injured than he let on at the beginning of this year. He did. Yeah, absolutely. And that definitely, he did not look good when he had, you know, they just, just randomly mentioned, oh yeah, I have a steel plate in my cleat. Like it can be a break. Like that would have been nice if you would have told us that a little sooner. But you do have to be encouraged by the usage in the passing game as well. That is where he really put up his stats last year, four catches for 26 yards. So it's, you have to like that as well. Yeah, I'm sure his opponents would have liked if he mentioned that earlier too. Yeah, without a doubt. You flabbergasted him with him on that. I know. He was like, his opponents, what's an opponent? He has enemies. Who are not his enemies? I will annihilate them is what was going on in his day. He's a code. Wait. Oh, football opponents. He meant football opponents. You meant like the Ravens, right? Right, yeah. Not his mortal enemy coming to battle him. Before we move on to the next game, we have a question in here from Steven. Steven said, Hey guys, what's up Steven? Thanks for hanging out with us tonight. It's a late week decision. Are you taking Rondale Moore or Mike Williams? JL, I want to throw this one to you first. So Rondale Moore playing in Mexico City tomorrow night with potentially Colt McCoy and potentially Marquis Hollywood Brown coming back, right? I don't know if we've gotten an update on whether or not they're not declared out. Declared out playing tomorrow. Okay. So without Hollywood, so that might make this decision a little bit easier JL. Are you rolling Mike Williams out tonight and this chief's charger shoot out or are you rolling out Rondale Moore? This is tough. This is tough. I'm going to lean Mike Williams. I'm going to lean Mike Williams here because I think the upside is higher for him. I think he is far more talented than Rondale Moore. The injury is a little concerning for Mike Williams that he might be hindered here, but he seems ready to go. And so he's the type player. I want to start him if he's healthy. In this game where they're going against San Francisco or sorry, they're going against Kansas City. I expect to be high scoring. So I think they're going to have to lean on the bass game. And who else are they going to throw to Simon? I will kill you if you say that. Greg Everett. Who knows? Greg. They're going to throw it to Greg. Someone this morning asked us about Greg Everett and I was like, that's a better name than Gerald. Austin Marrow or Greg Everett. I'm like, Greg, heck is Greg Everett? Get Greg's ass in there right now. Immediately. Steven in here. Gerald, to your point, I think they need upside. Said they're down 10 points. They have Eckler in a flex spot left, but they're going against Christian McCaffery and James Conner already down 10. I think in this situation, you got to roll Mike Williams. He has the higher upside. It's in a game that's expected to be higher scoring. And I'm rolling that way. Jay, you agree? Yeah. Yeah. Honestly, it's not a question for me, especially with Colt McCoy likely to be under center for the Arizona Cardinals. Guys, we are going to move on to our first 1pm game here. And Jeff Satterley in the Indianapolis Colts almost did the unthinkable in knocking out the Philadelphia Eagles, but Jalen Hertz pulled that victory out. 17-16 Eagles win this one. Yes, he did. The under hit total was 45.5 points. Indianapolis did cover here. Eagles won. It's probably not a great betting game. I don't think this went how most people were expecting. Jalen Hertz, 25.2. Jalen Hertz put this team on his back. He's the reason they won this game. He was fantastic. 25.2 fantasy points, 18 completions, 25 attempts, 190 yards, and a touchdown. We also had a rushing touchdown, if I'm not mistaken. He did. He did. Yeah, 16 attempts, 86 rushing yards, and a touchdown from Jalen Hertz. Game-winning rushing touchdown at the very, very end. That is absolutely correct. Game-winning touchdown from Jalen Hertz. Jalen Hertz is fantastic. You're starting them every week, week in, week out. Going into next season, where are you guys drafting Jalen Hertz? Where does he fit in that top? I'm guessing it's the top tier, right? Top five. Where in that top five, though? I think the names ahead of him are very limited. Like it's Patrick Mahomes, it's Josh Allen, and then I think the conversation begins. You know what I mean? Like I think you can make the argument against Justin Herbert, against Kyler Murray, against Lamar Jackson for Jalen Hertz. And so I think anywhere from three to five is where we're going to be looking at Jalen Hertz next year. And I wouldn't fault someone if they put him at one or two. You know what I mean? Like I think with his rushing ability, Jalen Hertz, if someone hasn't ranked as their top quarterback next year, I'm not batting an eyelash. I won't have him there. I'll have Mahomes and Allen ahead of him barring something crazy happening this offseason. But he's up there. He's a top three caliber guy, I think, for fantasy with that rushing ability. Yeah. What about you, Jay? Yeah, I think that's the threshold. I think that Allen and Mahomes are a tier above and don't tell Dustin in the chat, but I would actually put Mahomes above Allen right now. But yeah, I would not argue with somebody if they wanted to go with Jalen Hertz over either one of those guys. The one thing I will say is you said where are we drafting him and where does he land? Now that's two different things for me because yes, he's one of those top tier quarterbacks, but especially in one QB leagues, I'm probably going to fade him in one QB leagues because you look at what happened with Lamar Jackson after his magical 2019 season, he was getting drafted super high. And the only way he was going to return that value was if he put up another season like that. So you have to be careful when you draft guys at their ceiling. The reason in 2019, Lamar Jackson was a league winner. The reason Jalen Hertz is potentially a league winner this year is you didn't have to buy the risk. So just be careful drafting these guys next year, especially one QB leagues. Man, but it does help with that a little bit. Like I know it happened to Lamar Jackson as well, but it takes away some of that when they have that rushing ability, right? Like it provides a nice floor where even if like everything falls out from underneath them, you have a pretty safe floor with Jalen Hertz. So he's going to be serviceable for fantasy. Same for Lamar. Even when Lamar is off, you're never like too upset you started Lamar. He usually gets you at least 15, like even in a bad game where it's like you get a bad game from some of these non-mobile quarterbacks. You're looking at five to 12 points, right? I that's not so much in the range of outcome for these guys. That's been Russell Wilson all year long. It's been Russell Wilson all year long. It has been a rushing QB historically, right? Like that's that's been his scrambler. A scrambler. A scrambler. Yeah, not not quite the same as Lamar, but I mean before those guys, like he was considered definitely one of the top rushing ones. Yeah. As a mobile TV. Miles Sanders had a poo poo game, all the all the running that's just Jalen Hertz ran for 39 more yards than Miles Sanders is this game here. 13 carries 47 yards, 5.8 fantasy points. You're disappointed if you started Miles Sanders. It's probably just the game. What do you guys think? What was the reason? I mean, I thought he was a slam dunk play because I expected the Eagles to be up big and to just run the clock out with Miles Sanders. So this would be a pretty run heavy game. I mean, he got work, he got 13 carries, but Jalen, it's what you said. Jalen Hertz took this game over. They were not winning. Things weren't working. And Jalen Hertz said, all right, I got this guy's like, like this is on me. I'm going to pull this game out for everyone. And he did it. And there just wasn't room for Miles Sanders to find success when Jalen Hertz put this game on his back. And it was the right way to write Jalen Hertz. Shine to write Jalen Hertz. Keep on doing it though. Sorry, Miles, I'm on Jalen's team. I'd say this is an opportunity to potentially buy low on Miles Sanders. Well, two disappointing games back to back. Like Simon said, he's getting the volume, 13 carries last week, 12 carries the week before, 17 carries the week prior. So he's definitely still involved. And it's just he has him getting the touchdowns. The team rushes the ball a ton. I think he's somebody you could find a frustrated Miles Sanders manager who thinks, here we go. This is the old Miles Sanders and possibly get him on the sheet. Yeah, that's interesting. It's an interesting thought in that Eagle's team is so good that having Miles Sanders rest season is not a bad idea. I'm with you, Jay. You can capitalize on it, make it happen. Slime. Slime. AJ Brown got, man. AJ Brown really just got hyper-targeted in this game. That's the wrong word to use. Hyper-targeted by the defense is what I meant to say. Like they focused on AJ Brown, and they were able to mostly shut him down. Devontae Smith was the main guy in that offense today. Nine targets, six receptions, 78 yards. No touchdowns for Devontae Smith, 13.8 fantasy points. AJ Brown finished with 10 on seven targets. Five receptions, 60 yards and no touchdowns as well. Not much to talk about there. AJ Brown still wide receiver one. This is more of a game situation on the cold side. Matt Ryan, Poo-Poo as usual, 8.62 fantasy points. But in terms of NFL football, like he competed with one of the best teams in the league. So I guess you have to give that to old Matt Ryan. He was fine. He was fine. He was fine. He was fine. Not for fantasy, but for football, he was totally fine. He's not that old. In real life, like football, he's old, but in real life, he's not that old. What's weird is we're talking about football now. Yeah. I just wanted to throw that out there. He's not that old. That was in his Matt Ryan. 40 is clearly middle-aged guys, like not even old. I don't know why you're talking. We always say old. He's only 37. He's got his whole life ahead of him. He's a young buck. He's a spring chicken. And Michael Pittman had a pretty decent game. Seven targets, six receptions, 13.5 fantasy points. Paris Campbell had 11.7. Another good game for Harris Campbell. This is about what you expect. I don't think there's much really to distinguish there. This is a decent game for both of these guys. Yeah. Play these guys. When Matt Ryan's quarterback, both of them are startable. Like, I know this was a tough match for Michael Pittman, but Matt Ryan can get the ball to his receivers. Before he was benched, he was like top three in passing yards for quarterbacks. You know what I mean? Like, I know he wasn't looking good, but he gets the ball around to his receivers and that makes them startable. So I think you can plug both those guys in every single week, even though this cold steam is a bit of a mess. With you, Simon. Absolutely. Before we move on to our next one, we had some questions, guys. Brandon in here said thoughts on giving up. Stefan Diggs and Kareem Hunt for Keenan Allen and Jonathan Taylor. John Luke, would you be making this trade? Give up. Stefan Diggs and Kareem Hunt receive Keenan Allen and Jonathan Taylor back. No, because I don't know. I guess you could. If your team, if this balances out your team better, then you can make this trade. I wouldn't make the trade. I would probably just stick with Diggs and Hunt between the two of them, just because I don't know. I don't know how Taylor is going to do rest of season. More importantly, I'm not super confident that Keenan Allen will be able to stay on the field. I think I'm taking this one. I think Taylor is a big enough upgrade over Hunt and we saw what he did last week. Like looked like some vintage Jonathan Taylor. He got 22 carries again this week. Like it seems like that's how Jeff Saturday wants to run this offense is 20 plus carries for Jonathan Taylor every single week. And if he's going to get that volume, I want him on my team. And Keenan Allen is a good wide receiver. I'm nervous about the injury, but I'll take that value on JT. What about you, Jay? First off, just that sentence that you just said, Jeff Saturday's offense, that still just feels absolutely absurd to me that Jeff Saturday is making offensive decisions for an NFL football team. But yeah, you know what? My first thoughts was there's no way I'm giving up Diggs, but Hunt has not been good this year at all. Honestly, for me, I throw him out of this equation. It's a Diggs for Keenan Allen and Taylor. And I think it's worth it. I think it depends on your team. It depends what your wide receiver room looks. Because if Keenan Allen does get banged up and misses some games, are you throwing Donovan People's Jones out there? Like are you stuck with guys that you're hoping for a good matchup? Then I might stick with Diggs, but Keenan Allen has the potential to be a back end wide receiver one. And Jonathan Taylor has the potential to be the RB one period. So I think it's as long as your team can handle it depth wise, I think it's a move to make. Kareem Hunt is an RB three currently in PBR. RB 29, Keenan Allen, wide receiver 30s, 136. So checkmate, Atheist. Checkmate, Atheist. Take that to the bank. Softballzak has a question in here. Want to know, should I start Keenan Allen who plays tonight or Rondale Moore tomorrow? So, Joe, what would you say to our friend Softballzak? I'd say he has soft. And he would just start. And also, should I start? Between Rondale Moore and Keenan Allen, I'm going to go Rondale Moore. Keenan Allen's too much risk. Too much risk this week. Go Rondale Moore, take advantage of the fact that he's going to have opportunity to play this week. That line lived somewhere between Keenan Allen and Mike Williams on where the Rondale Moore start is. If you've got Mike Williams, plug him in. If it's Keenan Allen, I'm going with Rondale Moore. What about you, Jay? I'm going to go Rondale Moore. It's just Keenan Allen was playing a full set of snaps. It'd be no question. But even with Colt McCoy, if he's understanding Rondale Moore, it's the call. Albert wants to know, Miles Sanders or Jeff Wilson, rest of season? So this is a spicy question, Jay. If you have to pick between these two backs, which one are you rolling with rest of season? Going Jeff Wilson. I've said it since seed wound up in Miami and looked, you know, the usage that he got that first week, I think Jeff Wilson is locked in as a high-end RB2 and potentially lead winner. Dale, where would you be rolling on this one? Oh, boy. I would go Miles Sanders. I love Jeff Wilson too. I've been very hyped on him. But yeah, I have Miles Sanders in the Eagles offense. I'm so excited about that. Yeah. I'm with you. I'm with you. We got T.S. in here. It's a sit one in PPR. Mike Williams, Brandon Ayuk and Kedarius Tony. They are currently tied with their opponent. So one of these players has to hit the bench. J.L., which one of these three players would you be benching? Here's Tony, Brandon Ayuk, Mike Williams. I'm playing Ayuk. I'm playing Ayuk out of here. And then so it comes between Mike Williams and Tony. And I'm going to go, that one's impossible to choose. I'm going to go Mike Williams. Did we answer that earlier? I can't remember. Um, I do not think so. Jay, who are you benching here? I think I'm going to bench Tony. I think Ayuk is definitely the lock. You know, while I'm excited to see what Tony could do, it's too much of a risk being tied. You know, if you were down and needed the upside, I think Tony is the play. But I think Mike Williams offers that floor as well as a pretty decent upside in what could potentially be a shootout. You know, that would work for Tony as well. But, you know, I could see this being a game that, you know, MBS gets a long touchdown and Patrick Mahomes just locks in on Travis Kelsey. So I think there's a little more risk with Tony. I would rather go with Mike Williams. Yeah, I think I'm rolling Tony onto the bench here, unfortunately. I want to play Tony if I can, but you've got two great options outside of that TS. So I would roll with Tony on the bench because we're going to move on to our next game here. The Atlanta Falcons pulling out a victory against the Chicago Bears 27-24 in this game. Yeah, and like I said, the first half of this game, Justin Fields looked absolutely phenomenally looked as good as he has the past five, six weeks. The Chicago Bears led the game in time of possession, 35 minutes to 24 at 66 plays to the 53 for the Falcons. Honestly, I think the injury to his shoulder cost the Bears this game. Unfortunately, he had a good passing game, although he only passed the ball 21 times. He had 153 yards and a touchdown. He had an interception that I think had to do with the injury as well. He just did. It did not look good. I'm really concerned for Justin Fields if this is something that's going to linger. He obviously does what he does on the ground. He didn't break 100 yards, but you will definitely take 85 yards and a touchdown. Justin Fields is in. He's locked and loaded every restart potential. I mean, he's in the conversation for a top five QB as long as he's healthy and on the field. One guy I was excited to see without Khalil Herbert, David Montgomery had a really good game as well. And he got a little more action later in the game with Justin Fields hesitating to run a little bit because of the injury. 17 carries, 67 yards. Did also throw in a rushing touchdown. And I believe he had some usage in the passing game as well. If I could get my notes to scroll down. Four targets, three catches, 54 yards. So you really have to be excited. He was a top five running back on the week is without Khalil Herbert is David Montgomery and RB one for the rest of the season. Yes. Yes, I think he is on volume alone. And this is one of the most run heavy offenses in the league. David Montgomery is a great back. And when he gets the volume, that's what he does. He puts up RB one number. So I think he's an RB one for us the season. Yeah, currently he's a, I mean, Khalil Herbert has been obviously there for the first half of the season. Currently is the RB 32 and half PPR. This team is running a lot. I don't know if I put them in top 12, but I think he sniffing it. I think he sniffing it for sure. Sniffing it a little bit. Yeah, I'm with you. I lean while I like him. I actually just traded for him in my home leak. I think the potential is there, but not ready to put him there yet. I think I end RB two. But, you know, if they decide to pull back, Justin Fields running a little bit, try to keep him healthy. Maybe you do see David Montgomery get a little more work. You know, there was some talk of the rookie Tristan Ebner getting some work. And they worked him in a little bit. The six carries, he's not, you know, it's not like Khalil Herbert where it was almost a 50-50 split. Nothing you really have to worry about from Montgomery's workload. Through the air, Darnell Mooney came down with another touchdown. Five targets, four catches, 29 yards. Not really a whole lot to write home about, but he's really pretty much locked in as a wide receiver three for me. Rest of season. Simon, I know you were very high on Darnell Mooney coming into the season. What's your outlook for him the rest of the season? Not what it was at the beginning of the season, but better than it was the first three weeks is about where we got him. I think he's a high-end wide receiver three back-end wide receiver two. This offense doesn't pass enough for me to just put him in that like every week RB or wide receiver two category, but he's fantastic and Justin Fields likes getting in the ball. He makes plays when he's supposed to and he's the top target on this team. Like he should be week in, week out. It's just not enough volume to make him consistently a wide receiver two. I don't know why make plays like he's supposed to is hilarious to me. Well, that's what you got to do, right? It's like, do what's put in front of you. You can only do it so much with what's put in front of you. Darnell Mooney is only going to get five targets a week because this is a small little pizza pie passing. Little tiny bits, little baby pizza. Yeah, it's even smaller than the personal pan pizza. It's like this is from a Lunchable sized pizza right here and Darnell Mooney's got a pretty big chunk of it, but it's still not enough to make him consistent. Yeah, I think that's fair. And Cole Comet, you know, there's been some excitement with the way that he's, you know, what scored four touchdowns and the previous two games, but I think he's firmly in the glob. You know, he's in that, the higher echelon of the glob because he has that touchdown capability. But like you said, they just don't pass the ball enough. And you're going to have these games, these three for 35s. And if he, you know, one of those touchdowns last week was a 55 yard bomb, which you're not going to see from Cole Comet that often. It's not like he's a burner or anything like that. Um, I see somebody, you guys are comfortable starting every week. I mean, comfortable. Yeah. He's a tight end who can get two touchdowns. You sound comfortable saying that side. Well, no, it's like, I don't want to give people this false confidence or like this belief that Cole Comet's an every week superstar. So that's why there was hesitancy in what I was saying. He's a tight end in a low passing volume offense that you're hoping gets a touchdown, right? He's probably going to be four or five targets. We've seen him get up there in the seven, eight range, but that's not guaranteed every single week the way this offense runs. He's good. He's talented. And he does what he's supposed to with the targets that are thrown his way usually. Again, tiny baby pizza pie. I was exactly, for once and more, he's just so little. Like he's just so little. Nobody's full. So you're going to get weeks like this. You're going to get stinker weeks from Cole Comet. And that's okay. That's the tight end game here. That's how, like it's not Travis Kelsey. It's not Mark Andrews. You can plug in Cole Comet, but be willing to accept games like this. I'd just have to say, lunch bowls are absolutely disgusting. My children love them. They're awful. They are not mean for you. So get over yourself. Well, even when they worry for me, it was another old joke, Simon. Never mind. Chase Claypool, there was some hope getting out of Pittsburgh would do something for his fantasy relevance. Not happening this year. With this low passing volume, he's droppable in all leagues. If you haven't dropped him, you guys disagree. They're not, excuse me, not in dynasty in redraft leagues. He's dropped. How many times do I have to bring up this damn lunchable, Jay, before you get the picture? It's too small. It's too small for everyone to eat. I'm with you. Chase Claypool, get the drop. It's just like anybody was big. It's so small. I don't know that you need to drop Chase Claypool, but I think he can drop. I'm sure. Right. I think he's droppable. You're not going to bring up Tristan Ebner with his one target, Jay? Are you guys comfortable starting him, every week? Are you guys comfortable starting Tristan Ebner every week? Absolutely. Beyond comfortable. He's really small, so he doesn't need much of a pizza. My father and my future child. That actually fits him perfectly. Like he's not hungry after he eats one of those. He's like the tiny little crumb in the corner of, in the corner of Darno Mooney's mouth. That's the piece of the pie he gets. He just puts all the cheese in his mouth. That's all he does. On the Atlanta side of the ball, first off, Simon, I know he's your boy. Congratulations to Cordero Patterson. He broke the NFL record for kickoff returns for a touchdown with his ninth. And Simon, do you and I want to talk about this before we start it? I knew it was coming to like, I just had like, I was looking at the way he was standing back there. Jay, you were saying the announcers were talking. No, he just fumbled the ball. He's standing back there. And he like, you could tell when that ball was kicked off, no matter what, he was returning it. And just his pose, like there was just this confidence. I was like, oh, he's taking this to the house. Like with out of doubt, CPAD is weaving through his defense. And he did like, that was my favorite moment of the week, I think, because I was sitting there expecting it. And then it happened. And that never happens with, with punt returns, but shout out CP. That was really fun to watch. Kickoff return. Kickoff return. Sorry. And now. To clarify for the record. Yeah, you're right. I don't want to get any of like, the Hester fans mad out there for the kickoff and punt return record. This is just the kickoff return record. But that's the kickoff. Shout out. How many times in that game did they say, you would think Devin Hester would be second, but this is just kickoffs. It's not including punt returns. I watched a good chunk of this game and they said it at least six times. Maybe six times. But from a fantasy perspective, not great, Bob. Yes, he did have 10 carries for 52 yards, chipped in a couple catches, but it's not what you would have hoped based on how he looked earlier this year and how he looked at the beginning of last year. Tyler Algier got worked in. Marcus Mariota had 13 carries and rushed for touchdown as well. Cordell Patterson, is he anything more than RB2, backhand RB2? I'm not even sure he's an RB2. I think he's startable, but I think he's RB3, RB2 range. He's just not getting enough work, I think, weekly. And I think we could continue to see the shift move towards Algier and away from Patterson down the stretch. Yeah, I agree with Simon. I think it'll be a split here. And I don't know that I want any part of that. All right, let me ask you guys. Next week they play a tough Pittsburgh defense against the Rung. Are you starting Cordell Patterson? Yeah, absolutely. I'm okay starting Cordell Patterson then. He's a flex play. And he's a flex play. Three touchdowns in a week. Yeah, so I'm comfortable starting him, but it's not like with RB1 confidence. It's with flex value, RB3 confidence. Yeah, and as we talked about earlier, Cal Pitts went down with an injury. Don't have any word. I have not seen any updates, but it did not look good, potentially be out for a decent amount of time. Drake London, they looked good early. He got a touchdown and then that was it. You would have really hoped for some more, especially with Cal Pitts out. I just, Drake London is unstartable in redraft leaks. You guys disagree? I do think you can start him, but it depends. Unstartable is such a harsh term. It's relative, yeah. It's relative. I think he's a guy that you can plug in as a bi-week fill-in. He's got the talent. We saw some flashes of it at the beginning of the year, but again, it's another small pie situation. These are the two smallest pies in the league whenever it comes to players on the receiving side of the ball, but Drake London's got the talent. He's not an every week start. He's a wide receiver for with upside. Drake London or Donovan Peoples-Jones? Donovan Peoples-Jones, no question. Oh yeah, easy, easy, easy. Yeah. Donovan Peoples-Jones, that was disrespectful to what Donovan Peoples-Jones has been doing recently, Jay. Completely disrespectful. But with that, we're going to move on to this Cleveland Browns Buffalo Bills game. Speaking of Donovan Peoples-Jones, the Bills pulled this one out 31 to 23, but it wasn't all sunshine and rainbows for the Buffalo Bills. Josh Allen has not looked like Josh Allen that we're used to over the past couple of weeks, and that continued a bit today. Only 18 for 27 for 197 passing yards and one touchdown. Jail, are you worried about Josh Allen? Do you think this injury is maybe affecting him more than we thought? Yeah, I think it absolutely could be. I mean, it's on his throwing hand. That's going to be tough, tough to play through. I don't know that I'm ready to expect this Josh Allen weekend and week out, but it's something I'm keeping my eye on, because if it is, this is the Josh Allen we're getting for now on that absolutely affects all of these pieces on the scene. And that's pretty important considering they're one of the best teams. Absolutely. Now, Devin Singletary seems to, as Josh Allen has been declining over the past couple of weeks, Devin Singletary has been the opposite way, fully ascending, and they could be completely correlated because Josh Allen, a rushing quarterback, has injured Devin Singletary stepping into this role. He had 18 carries for 86 yards and a touchdown this week, added 11 yards through the air off two targets, two receptions. And I wanted to play a little main game with you guys with Devin Singletary, because he's been turning it on. We got three touchdowns in the past two weeks. So Jay, rest of season, David Montgomery or Devin Singletary? Oh, you had to go with David Montgomery. I'm going to go Montgomery just because, well, I love what Devin Singletary is doing. James Cook got in there and got involved and looked pretty good too. So it's close, but with Montgomery, I'm in the backbill to himself. I'm going with Monty. Jaya? Yeah, I'm going with Monty as well. We'll start with you on this one, Jaya. Tony Pollard or Devin Singletary? Rest of season. You asked it to the other side. This is a curated list of tough questions. I would go with, I would go with not Singletary. Tony Pollard? Yeah. Tony Pollard, what about you, Jay? Yeah, I got to go with the upside of Pollard. What about Miles Sanders or Devin Singletary? Rest of season. Two disappointing weeks in a row for Miles Sanders. Singletary has been turning it up recently. Are you rolling with Sanders still or are you rolling with Singletary? I think I'll go Singletary on this one. While I've been a known Miles Sanders true thru who gave up on him and then bought back in and then he fell apart again. There is a world where this is what Miles Sanders is and you're just hoping for a touchdown. I think Devin Singletary is pretty much locked into a decent workload and some red zone work. I would go with Miles Sanders here. Between him and Singletary, Miles Sanders, he's been decent. He's RB 19 in PPR formats. And I only expect that to continue. Given this theme, I expect this theme to bounce back from these last two losses here. And I'd go with Sanders. On the other side of the ball, the Browns did better against this Bill's defense than I expected them to. And Jacoby Rosette had himself a day. He went 28 for 41, 324 yards and three touchdowns, zero interceptions. Who's going to ask this? I'm pretty sure the answer is no. But Jail, there's no quarterback controversy when Deshaun Watson comes back, right? No, no, the money side. You've got to follow the money. It's so much money. Oh, man, can you imagine that just the buyers are more to be like, yeah, we're going to redo that. We're going to rewrite that contract. We're going to go with Jacoby. Yeah, Sean Watson, they threw the absolute bag at him. So no, I don't think it's a controversy at all. But Jacoby Rosette looked fantastic. He was hitting the Mari Cooper on Sabasses. And I'm just like, insane. How? Why? Why are you doing this now? Like not when you have the opportunity to actually become the starting quarterback for a team. And he's just maybe he's really focusing on better and just more talented because he looks it. He looks at the season. You know, I'm willing to. I'm willing to say that that's why. He looked great in this game in this season. He's he's put together a couple of games like this. And we thought maybe he would just be the game manager back there, right? Like hand on the ball off to Nick Chubb, Karim Hunt and let it run that way. But this game was on Jacoby Rosette's back, not on the back of these running backs. Nick Chubb had 14 carries for 19 yards. Karim Hunt had five carries for 32 yards. They could get nothing going on the ground against this Bill's defense. It's not a single thing. It came down to Jacoby Rosette and he put together a pretty good performance, even though they lost. Joe, you already mentioned to Mari Cooper, 12 targets, eight receptions, 113 yards and two touchdowns. Prior to this week, Mari Cooper was the PPR wide receiver, 14. When you're looking at him rest of season, Joe, what do you think is his ceiling for where he can finish at the end of the season? He's starting at 14 before this week. He's got the Sean Watson coming back in two weeks and he's playing like the alpha dog in this offense that he was signed to be. What's that upside? Simon, the upside is the freaking moon because... And listen, I'm the first that has to e-crow on this one because I have relentlessly poo-pooed on Mari Cooper, just nonstop for years. And I did not, I was not buying him this year. I was just early against it once again. And no, I was wrong. He looks fantastic in this offense. This offense is passing a shit ton, just a ridiculous amount. And like you said, Mari Cooper is the main guy there. Sean Watson coming back. I think he's going to have a bigger effect than most people are thinking. It's a massive upgrade from Jacobi Perced. We just sat here and talked about how good Jacobi Perced has been. He's not Sean Watson. No. And for those of you listening, shit ton is the SI unit for passing attempts. It was exactly 41 passing attempts in the game. Yeah, I just wanted to, if anyone was listening, wasn't aware, shit ton is the SI unit for passing attempts in a game. And 41 equals one metric shit ton of passing attempts. Yeah, of course. Also, Maria said, don't e-crow, we are vegetarians. True, true, true. It's impossible crow that you're eating. Eat impossible crow. The last player I wanted to talk about here was the previously mentioned Donovan People's Jones. Six targets, five receptions, 61 yards and a touchdown. Who's an every week start, right? Just an every week in your lineup, DPJ starting, right? It's even being the willfuler to throw back to the Texans days for Sean Watson. He's deep threat. I'm excited to see what he's going to do with the Sean Watson under center. He's a deep threat, but he's not being used just as a deep threat, right? He's seen the targets across the field. I got comfort in him more than just a boom bus play. He's a safe foreplay with the volume that he's been getting in this offense. Guys, let's move on. It feels like a Tyler Boyd. That's kind of what he feels like. Yeah, with Jamar Chase there. I gotcha. Like a different kind of player, but like the output, like the role that he plays in the offense. It's not from like a full ball perspective. Right, right, right. Yeah, exactly, Simon. You knew exactly what I was translated there. I knew exactly where you were going on that one. Guys, the last game I wanted to talk about right now was this New York Giants Detroit Lions game. The Lions pulling out the victory 31 to 18 against the Giants that we thought were good. What happened? Yeah, they did not look good. Danny Dimes or excuse me. I don't know if you guys have heard the new nickname that Sake 1 Barclay gave him. You guys heard this yet? Vanilla Vic. That is the nickname. Oh, I didn't hear that. It's the whole thing now. If that is not the cringiest nickname I've ever heard in my entire life. Yeah. Maria saw that on a clip of that on TikTok. She was like, I don't get it. What is he calling him? I'm like, oh, what was it? Vanilla Vic. And I was like, oh, that's hilarious. That's a good name. Yeah, yeah. It's just, I love Barclay. But yeah. Oh, I think it's hilarious. Yeah, it's just not on a cringy to me. But he did not look that great. I did throw for 341 yards, but through two interceptions after really holding back the turnovers here recently, one touchdown. Just, this is what I was worried about with the Giants. They started off really hot, but I mean, Wanda Robinson had the game of his short career so far. 13 targets, nine receptions, 100 yards, and then he got hurt. So Daniel Jones was down to Richie James, Darius Slayton, and the ghost of Kenny Galladay. So he's really not throwing to anybody. The Detroit Lions defense has looked a lot better than they started the season. I just think this is kind of what you're going to expect from the Giants the rest of the season. I think they're going to be solid. They're not going to be an embarrassment like they have, but they have been the past couple of years. But I think the only guy you can count on weekend week out is Saquon Barclay. And the rest, you know, if Wanda Robinson's back, I think he's a solid flex play, but I wouldn't be surprised to see if he missed the rest of the season the way that he grabbed his knee. It was kind of scary. Wait, so I can count on Saquon Barclay weekend week out? I'm sure he did great this week for me, right? Then? Yeah, he did. He had a game where he had 22 rushing yards. And also, let's see how many passes he got. Nice. He caught two catches for 13 yards. So yeah, still in every week starts, still somebody you can depend on weekend and week out. This is fantasy football. This is the NFL. Some guys just don't get it done on the ground. It's not going to have an elite matchup like the Detroit Lions every week. So it'll be fine. Right. In all seriousness, any long-term concern for Saquon, if this offense does continue to start? Age. Age. I mean, that's definitely a long-term concern to have for him, but other than that, no. That's a much longer term concern. Not this. Yeah. I'm talking a couple of years down the line, but no concerns about Saquon. I was just making a jab because he ruined my fantasy weeks, but I love you Saquon. And I'm going to start him every single week the rest of the season, as long as he's playing. And on the wide side of the ball, Jared Goff played like Jared Goff. Jamal Williams with the story. 17 carries, 64 yards, and three touchdowns. And like we talked about earlier, Deandre Swift, he only had five carries. So I don't know if he's still injured, if they're just trying to, with somewhat of a lost season, not put the work on his legs. What are you guys doing with Deandre Swift? Is he still an every week start? Nah, he's on your bench. He's on your bench until I see it for me. Like I was starting him, and I'll say, okay, it's bound for him to get the work, but I'm not plugging him in my line-ups until I see that his usage goes up, because this is an unstartable fantasy running back right now. Yeah, I'm going to look into this week and where they used him in this game, at what point in the game, because the Lions got ahead. And if they're that far ahead, or even if they're a little bit ahead, and he's injured and they're trying to let him heal, I can see why they wouldn't use him, especially if Jamal Williams is getting the job done. And so I agree with Simon that you got to keep an eye on this, but I do think that this game, this game isn't necessarily a confirmation. This is how it's going to be forever. Yeah, even last week with Granted, he's coming back from injury, but in a close game that they barely pulled out the victory, he only had a 31% snap share. So I'm normally one of the type of fantasy managers that big names you play on, no matter what, you can't start Deandre Swift until further notice, especially with Jamal Williams looking as good as he does. And Amon Ross, St. Brown is just a stud. Doesn't matter how the head chair is. Go ahead. On the Swift point, he's still got 11 in PBR formats, 11.2 fantasy points, 8.2 the week before, 8 the week before, and then 14.3 the week before that. That's absolutely startable. So I think it goes back to the point of what Simon said about, like that's relative. But I'm fine starting him. It's just it's not going to be what you've been getting until he heals up a little bit more. No, absolutely. And Amon Ross St. Brown is really the only wide receiver you want on this team, especially as bad as Jared Golf has looked. He's still put up double-digit points. I mean, he's getting close to 10 targets a game. He's the go-to guy, especially with Deandre Swift, not really being too involved. You know, he did have three catches, but in previous years, he's been a lot more involved than T.J. Hawkinson out the door. Amon Ross St. Brown, honestly, as consistent as he looked, I think he's a back-end wide receiver one rest of season. Yeah, you're plugging them in week in, week out. This offense isn't great with Jared Golf under center, but it's good enough. And the targets are going to Amon Ross St. Brown. I think you can throw them in there. Guys, everyone who hung out with us this evening, thank you so much. I know Sunday Night Football is about to kick off, so we are going to get out of here. Go watch that Chiefs Chargers game. Hopefully a big old shootout to end the night. I want an offensive showdown tonight. That's going to be it for us. Thank you, everyone who hung out with us today. We will be back next week, same time, same place. But if you don't want to wait that long, head on over to our YouTube channel at Front Yard Fantasy and subscribe over there. You can see more of all of our handsome faces talking fantasy football and some other nonsense. Until then though, we are out of here. Enjoy the rest of your Sunday. Enjoy the rest of week 11, and we will see you guys on another time. Bye, see you on Sunday.