 Hello everybody and welcome to another episode of Rick's D minutes. We're back with the finale of season 3 episode 10 The Rick Churian Morty date the last episode of Rick's D minutes for the foreseeable future Yeah, possibly for years could be years until the next one unless we decide to like go back and do the other seasons at some point Which we could do feeling masochistic Maybe as like a batch we could do the season or something But in any case it could be more interesting because those ones already have commentary and stuff that we could write Which I have not watched any of but would very much like to based on what you've told me about them They're really fun. They're worth watching But anyway, let's get into it So Rick Churian Morty date. Oh, I'm Digi bro by the way. Oh, that's right Yeah, and Yeah, this is the the season finale kind of sprung on me out of nowhere cuz For some reason previously on Wikipedia it had suggested that this would be a 13 episode season So I really thought they were like going all out and making it a longer one and considering how much Plot development happened this season. It felt like that would be the case. Yes, but then suddenly it was just oh episode 10 That's the last one. It's just fucking over. Did you feel I? Don't remember where I read this but somewhere. I think I read that Just in Royland specifically said like yeah, we were supposed to do 13 it got shrunk down to 10. Sorry about that Next time we'll try to do better. I can't remember I read the case. I I have the feeling that There were a lot of production mishaps on this season and that that contributes a lot to why it took so fucking long to make because There was a definite sensation I had from this episode and this is skipping right to the end right but the the last scene sort of restores things to normal like they were in season one sort of gets us back to the status quo and Beth says like outright. It's basically gonna be like season one except more streamlined from now on indeed and I Couldn't help but think that what happened here like what happened with this whole season Was that by the end of season two they'd written themselves into this place where it's like We are now going to do a continuous narrative with this show right and I think maybe in the process of trying to hash out What that continuous narrative is it became apparent that this was not a good idea or that they didn't know how or that there? Just wasn't away and so they went Let's let's just address all the open-ended things this season and then just kind of wrap back into Something normal that we can continue with you know, that's how it felt to me. I would be inclined to agree And especially that the whole ending scene feels extremely tacked on to the end of this I mean, what what's fascinating to me about this episode and correct me if I'm wrong But I feel like this is the first episode of Rick and Morty where the B plot has been a thousand times better than the A plot and it was it was so Unusual for the show to spend so much time on this this whole like presidential like break up You know like bad feelings thing and then like and then we get to the thing that actually matters like last episode We were like, oh man, will they ever address will we ever see an addressing happened in this episode and we're past it It's done the questions are answered in the trash. It goes Amazing and and not a good way. I Kind of feel yeah, it's a weird feeling Mm-hmm I can easily imagine the writers with this story seeing it kind of spiraling out of control and getting to Because like if you look back at what Rick and Morty was what the successful formula was like Season one was not great because it had an ongoing plot It had little tidbits of like emotional stuff that carries over like, you know In one episode they ditched their universe in another episode. It's confirmed that they are still in the ditched universe There is a continuity right right that's abnormal in some way And then by the time we get to Rick has overthrown the government of the entire cosmos And like there's all this background shit going on and now Beth What if she goes and has her own adventure and I have the feeling someone had to go like um We can't write about Beth and her adventures because this is gonna get so Unfocused they fucked up so bad, you know the the correct way to handle that we already addressed I at least I think we did last episode you just go have her do her adventures And then like in a season or two or whatever you can have an episode about that Beth and then it it blinds eyes everyone We're like, oh my god, we totally forgot about that But that's this has been the fake bet the whole time this Recontextualizes everything I thought like everyone would have loved that it would have been super cool But they're just like no too much work. We can't do all that we just want to address it I mean, but then if they leave that open thread, then it's just one more thing. They gotta worry I guess there was something cheap about like and I'm not celebrating that they did this necessarily But I couldn't help but feel like the ending of this season was their way of going. Ah, I just put it all back to normal I don't want to hear this anymore. You know fuck. What have we done like and and just seeing that You know that several episodes have commented on the slowness of the season coming out The fact like the conflicts in Getting it made like it's pretty clear that Dan and Justin have I've only been picking up like random things like tertiary Knowledge about this but people have been saying like that they've been addressing a lot of issues like Apparently Dan Harmon hated the episode. We hate vindicated. That's right. Yeah, the vindicators and good man He's got good taste obviously Yeah, and it so it makes me think man. It must have just been fucking chaos putting the season together Yeah, like I'm I'm thinking that they they hit Simultaneously the most ambition they wanted to have with the show and the least they could actually do with the show at the same time You know, that's that's the kind of feeling I'm getting but this is all speculation And it's interesting because this show has absolutely blown up this season. This has been the season post season 2 I mean it was a long time after post season 2 into this, but now people are really paying attention to the show just in time for it to Stumble a little bit stumble along its way not completely obviously some of these episodes were fantastic. Um, yeah Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's unavoidable But but I don't know is this still going to happen you think as the show clearly is taking on an even bigger role than it had Previously the funny thing about Rick and Morty and this was already the case in season 2 is it's it's too big for it Self yeah, like yeah, it's too successful because it's on Fucking adult swim right like it's never going to be a like high-budget production It's always gonna be like this weird off-kilter passion project and the fact that it has this kind of attention is kind of like Strange it's almost like with with my little pony friendship is magic a show. We're both very familiar with where The show suddenly erupts in popularity right around the time that the actual lead writer is leaving because right like it sucks To work on the show, you know, and then you get this weird muddied storyline and production where as the show is getting more popular it's also getting worse, you know, yeah, and I Feel like we're seeing something similar here where it I don't I don't even necessarily think the season is worse But like there's clearly been issues with the production where like the popularity of the show is taking people from the show, right? I mean and you know leaving them not able to actually make The the saddest the so the show that will satisfy its new huge that's my question Do you think we'll we finally see a stoppage of the leak of talent from Rick and Morty because it's so popular now Well, they finally like okay, that's does it make more money by being more popular Question is adult swim like able to pay these people enough to keep them You know, how have they made all these like spin-off like games and shit and all these like shorts and these 3d, you know, whatever Like all the spin-off stuff that's come from Rick and Morty How the fuck was it all financed and like where those no idea just if all those make money then like okay Maybe they can pay for themselves, but how do they get people on these projects to make these? I don't know. I guess it's All part of the the zeitgeist that's carried Rick and Morty to the popularity set now And I'll I'll say I'm gonna to to since we're talking about the meta of the season anyways to talk more interesting the content of this episode For the most part. Yeah, and I don't hate this episode. I thought it was fine But like it's not the one that has the most deep shit to talk about indeed Season 3 as a whole last season finale like Jesus Yeah, I almost felt like this one was deliberately retarded I got like yeah, I got a little that like just because it was so like So dumb with the president thing like like going above and beyond to make the president this petty idiotic character Mm-hmm and to focus so much on this dumb story almost felt like they were deliberately making sure you know like Okay, we're not doing that again season 2 finale was a fluke. That's not where this is going We're restoring normalcy. We're going back to sitcom roots, you know Who's felt like a sitcom episode like this episode in some ways it felt almost family guy-esque to me Yeah, yeah, totally um, but then to be more kind to it I would compare it to an episode of the venture brothers like just that kind of sense of irreverence, but well You know applying the unique brand of this show to a sort of classic scenario like working for the president You know, it just feels like a like an old-school sitcom premise almost But yeah, it's uh, and I think it's a goofy fun time I I enjoyed what I got but it definitely was weird to just the season finale. Well, that's the whole thing I really feel I have no way of knowing this is true or not But I really think this is just like one of the episodes considering we know so much about How many problems that we're just getting this made in the you know, we I can't I wish I had actually looked this up But I know somewhere Justin Rowland said like yeah, they fucked up and they couldn't make as many episodes as they wanted to I really feel like this was just gonna be an episode in the series, but then they got to the crunch time They're like, oh fuck we need to make this the season finale And then they like they either slapped on the the Beth plot into this and the whole ending thing where they wrapped all that Shit up. That's what it feels like to me But that that's not to say that I didn't enjoy the president stuff Because I did it was it was good and fun I just the whole time I was sitting here knowing this was the season finale and was like, okay ready to be impressed Here I am sitting here looking for that good shit. Oh, there's bad things going on something's interesting is gonna happen with that and it did the Beth plot was interesting But like so much more time was devoted to the president stuff and hey the fight the fight that Rick has with the president was like dopey shit and Like I love that they incorporated all the things that have been brought up so far about the White House You know mm-hmm that they go through all like because you don't have to question all this crazy shit that there That's happening underneath the White House because we've already established before that all this shit exists Have those all been mentioned or had they been shown before I thought that about Remember he at the beginning. He's talking about how like oh don't go into the like the Lincoln Slave Whatever and like this other he's like yeah, the like coke room which they fall into the coke room Right, right face at a bowl of coke. So you know like that's true But I some of the stuff that would have been harder to explain I guess I really like seeing It's like the present the battle president aesthetic. I was I liked surprisingly a lot He had all this tech like my favorite was when he pulls out like his watch and points the laser at Rick And then like an orbiting satellite shoots the laser down from space the hammer of dawn from Gears of War That's the one that's the one yeah, it was fucking great And like the little the little twins that he just blows the whistle turn to monsters. Yeah, it was good shit man That whole fight was great Yeah, that was by far the most entertaining part up until that point it felt a little slow But the fight was the that the Rick and Morty genius of lots of things happening really fast without explanation But you kind of get it you know like racing just just a little bit ahead of your Able ability to parse the information, you know, you have to be an intellectual So that leads me into what I really want to talk about meadow-wise which is that I Hate that the show has gotten popular and I hate watching it with the world I couldn't agree. I know this is this is this is the most hipster. I'm ever gonna sound But I miss when Rick and Morty was just my show, you know I know exactly what I feel it's not even that I got in on the ground floor of it Like I found out about it like throughout season one I was hearing the early review saying like this is the best show on TV when no one was talking about it you know film crit Hulk was I think the first person I heard it from and You know, I watched I caught up in between seasons one and two I got everyone. I knew to watch it because I thought it was great Watch the commentaries watch the episodes like four times, you know, and then season two rolled around and When they when they were the leaked episodes I was way excited about them like I watched each of those leaked episodes, you know multiple times Yep, and then it came for where the show was actually airing and I was watching it week by week and first of all, I I think watching anything week by week will always make it worse and this is I've stuck to I Firmly fucking believe in this and every time so I've tried to challenge it. I've come up failing like no matter Well, if you watch a show week by week, it will be worse because every time it falters a little It's a much bigger deal, you know I'm marathon season one the first time and it was just amazing, you know like it was just perfect And I marathoned it like three more times and I could eventually pick out which episodes I thought were weaker from the others But like it never felt like a big deal this season when we got to the revengencers episode It was like this is real like for a whole week. It was like, uh, you know I legit was not excited about doing this podcast for a lot of the podcast run after that episode I know to me like it was always scary like am I gonna go in and watch a shitty episode of Rick and Morty and have Nothing to say about it and and and then deal with the comments who are never Like I very quickly abandoned reading the comments for rick's D minutes because it's a lot It's they're weird because we get lots of people who don't really know who we are because they're just like looking for Rick and Morty I enjoy that, but yeah, I know what you mean Yeah, and it's it's just been a it's been a weird experience keeping up with the season and like I Feel like after season two which I think everyone agrees was overall great like even though for me I felt less enthusiastic about it than I was about season one just by way of watching it week by week I still ultimately enjoyed it a lot I think after season two everyone felt really entitled to great Rick and Morty, you know I hear season three rolled around and Anything wrong with it got picked apart to shreds because the people like me Who loved the first two seasons and wouldn't shut up about it. Yeah, like idiots like I feel Stupid because all I did was rave and rave or rave about how this show is so perfect And now every time anything slightly imperfect happens everyone like oh the female writers Rick and Morty wasn't the greatest show on television this week. So, you know so I Mean these female writers are just such intellectuals. We can't understand what they're going for it And then people people who fucking rag on the Rick and Morty fan base, which I as as is always the case I've never seen the annoying fans. I've only seen the people complaining about the annoying fans You know like I've never once unless one of the people was who's making fun of them like Literally reposts their shit. Yeah, and then I see it and I go yeah Well that guy's clearly a fucking like retarded like literally retarded, you know like posting that like Facebook group of the People who see themselves as ricks. Yeah, right and I like favorite people in the world Okay, these people are clearly not indicative of most of the people watching this show like you can't say oh the Rick and Morty fandom are so like No, well, you know, that's it's selective reasoning cuz you know, of course you're gonna wait with people who wanted to fend the Like the fandom they'll look at the people they like best to be like oh those are the guys They're not the real ones Whereas if you're on if you're like looking for a reason if you hear one person be annoying about Rick and Morty You're just gonna be like those fucking fans. They're all like this is the worst Like when I see an annoying per idiot like participating in a fandom I think wow that's an annoying idiot, you know has nothing to do with the show They like because guess what every show has annoying retarded fans Like I can't name a show that doesn't have any annoying retarded fans So this whole position like it's somehow Rick and Morty's like specifically has this problem It's like no, it's just a show that people are talking about right now So those people boil to the surface, you know, it's just the nature of anything that gets too popular People will like it. There will always be someone who likes it to it. I'm not just agree and Just be big on the train for a burp. Nothing matters Morty Belch Every god's not real burp. I'm gay Morty suck my dick. Yeah, it's It's inevitable. It's a nature of fandom. I Will say the most gratifying thing about this season was Listening to the dick show and hearing him reference Rick and Morty almost every week. Oh, that's cool Not not even anything specific just referencing the fact that he's watching it and I was always like, yeah How nice for you did you how nice You know now I'm starting to get why people Wanted to hear this episode of ricksy minutes come out cuz Yeah, I feel I feel a bit of emptiness after watching this episode just And again, I think it is I wouldn't I wouldn't frame it as entitlement to a good episode, but heightened expectations Certainly are there and I mean this this was definitely a case where about four minutes into the episode I went, oh, okay, you know, maybe not even that far like it was that feeling of I Loading up the last episode thinking like what's is it gonna be a big is it because I haven't heard anything No, nobody's been freaking out. Everybody's been telling me when are you gonna do the last ricksy minutes? Nobody's been saying it's a crazy episode. You know, like it's just been when are you gonna do it? So I start watching it in a few minutes, and I'm like, oh, it's not gonna be anything Like if this is not gonna be a big season closer episode, you know, it's it's it's fine But it's unfortunate that just like like a standalone episode like the like the toxic rick episode was like in my opinion Quite superior to this one. This is like the whole point There's there's just the joke of the president is jealous that Rick broke up with him or something They have a big president battle. There's some cool stuff that happens and then Beth immediately has confronted the issue that was set up last episode about if she's a clone or not so both one was kind of not that interesting and the other was like kind of kind of Premature ejaculation on like a thing I was expecting to to be a part of the narrative and just not look I was really looking forward to going into next season as well and thinking about like, ooh What does this indicate that this is clone Beth or this is real Beth? What can I learn from this? They didn't have to go that way But I was like expecting that and this really is just like blowing their load immediately and it's a little disappointing so And I do yeah the whole president plot I mean this episode is kind of a sequel to the show me what you got episode Season two. Yes, which was at a perfect place in that season episode four We've already been hit with some really heavy sci-fi stuff later. We'll get it with some more emotional stuff But right here. Here's a goofy fun episode about saving America Bringing back the which the president himself was not that memorable a character from that episode So like bringing him back I had to kind of take a second and like I remember thinking oh, I guess President still black in the Rick and Morty universe Yeah, right and then I remembered that it was a character that they had before and I was like, oh, right I you know like whenever I think about a situation like this like it's so yeah This is this is basically them saying like, okay, we've got this character Let's recycle him and do something interesting with it and they manage that reasonably. Okay the problem that happens every time is that I Always my favorite example to go to is the party God from adventure time The party God in adventure time was the best character ever conceived because he was a giant floating wolf head With the backwards baseball cap who supercharges. I think Jake at some point so that he can go like save I was gonna call him Morty fucking What the fuck is the kid's name from an answer to fit? Yes. Thank you And he just shows up at one point completely out of nowhere He does this magical thing It's hilarious and then he leaves and then way later like seasons later in adventure time They like made an episode developing the character of the party God and it was like what the fuck are you doing that? that's like That's that's just such a misunderstanding was a character supposed to be that exactly that is a one-off joke Rick Rick and Morty's definitely had some of these issues and I would say it's done reincorporation really well I think bird person was reincorporated well like fucking The first time well, that's bird person is well like the first time that gear guy was brought back and Rick Yeah, replace his eyes with his balls. That was great The second time gear guy is brought back this season was terrible and it was like why do you keep bringing back this character? Like why did it have to be him? You know, why is there a lazy dude? I mean, I'm not saying that the show is like lazy itself, but but that is a lazy idea to do exactly like They're gonna get that we didn't get a wealth of great new characters this season No, we did not know we did in fact I can't think of one I particularly cared about a lot of people like that guy What was his name cougar or jet Jaguar that actually I was it was pretty cool just whatever He served his parents in the episode and I don't ever really care about seeing him again though So yeah, that's fair remember unity remember fucking unity from season two. She is like that's like the best character ever I fucking love unity not to mention like the incredible relationship It's like the best episode of the whole fucking it is it is one of the best like the ending is legendary Yeah, I would say the first three episodes of season. No episodes two and three of season two or like the two best What was the other one besides the unity episode there? Episode two is the one with the fucking when they go to blitz and shits Oh, yeah, and and they meet the fart cloud. Yep. That's that's that whole one Wait, is that the same episode I think so no, yeah, you're right. I think it's got the it's got crumb crumbopulous Michael in it Yep. Yep. Yeah Anyway, I can actually remember that name by the way. I could not have remembered that Yeah Yeah, I don't know what else to say about this finale I got underwhelming it was a you know, the season was okay I would say this would not be I don't think the season would have disappointed people if it hadn't taken so long to come out yes, you know, um and I hope I Wish upon a star that next time I'll somehow be able to watch it weekly, but I know that or not watch it weekly rather But I know that won't be the case Yeah, I'm gonna end up having to and it's gonna perpetually ruin this show for me as this happened to every other show I've ever watched weekly You know what I do want to I want to challenge you Don't you think that our enjoyment of Aromanga sensei was heightened by the fact that we had to stew on every episode in between them It just just get ready enjoyment and of our reactions to it. Exactly. That's what that's what was all about Incidentally made an abyss weekly will probably finish that at some point indeed indeed very soon I think and if anybody cares who listens to this show By the way, let me let me let me shout out two jokes that were hilarious and I love Do it quick. So I got a poop. Okay, we'll do so remember when when the president is growing back in size And they just give him the shirt because apparently he needs to swing his dick around hilarious. I laughed good good the other one was when It just went when the president is like ordering this guy to clean his room and he's just like I don't think you even know What's secretary of interior means just yeah small side? I laughed that was a weird one But I did that that's well, you know Rick and Morty's a pretty intellectual series You know not everybody's gonna get it, you know, you gotta you gotta think about it Oh, and also when when Morty's just like I don't know commander-in-queef want to count my pubes. I laughed I laughed That's it. I got nothing else All right, everybody see you in the future possibly in years like nothing matter says yep We're all dead universes choices. Don't matter consequences. Don't matter kill yourself do whatever you want everybody. That's that's my thing Bye-bye. Oh My god, I almost forgot to add the last thing. Hey everybody best guy ever world-famous Rick and Morty analysts here Yo, you know how Minecraft was in this fucking episode. Oh, I thought it was really dope How like in real life like the president's portal like had to be lit with a fucking lighter like in Minecraft I am a Minecraft specialist. Thank you very much. I'll see you next time. Bye. Bye