 Make sure I stay injured and three months from now better on it. Yeah No, but but anybody knows we're doing a new thing called live with it where Sarah will try out a piece of technology for three months You know, we'll check in with her on good day internet from time to time We'll do a special kind of midpoint stream and then three months at three month points She'll give her her definitive, you know evaluation and the winner of the poll We ran a poll for a week on on patreon the winner of the poll gentlemen illegitimate poll Wait, oh Right illegitimate. Yeah. Now hold on hold it. Please hold your objections until Jabra elite 65 t Alexa enabled true wireless earbuds with charging case is the winner Well, you know what I I did not vote I wanted to stay impartial, but I was sort of hoping that the Java would win So thank you to everyone who read my mind. I hope you I hope I hope it's a very fruitful trial Thank You Justin. I'm not sure what's what's going on. What what's what? You can't put on the poll that you should just suck it up and put the AirPods up for a vote But we already know you're gonna say they fall out of my ears like that's not we're not gonna learn it The point the point of the of disease how whether or not your assumptions would be correct. You obviously have the most Forethought negative forethought about those I thought it would have been something that that should have at least been put up to the will of the populace But no stricken from the record before the voice of democracy had a chance to act I don't think you understand the plight of people with weird ears Maybe and maybe this would have been a tremendous opera being a little unfair a little harsh Maybe this is up to the elf ear community Maybe this would have been a tremendous opportunity to highlight that fact in a in a month-long demonstration but no Justin hiding hiding your criticized system behind a video stream that doesn't work Yeah, so every time you talk Justin you're there's no image of you What ever that's in your video right now. Yeah, I see your thumbnail, but it's frozen You want to pop off and jump back on Tries to criticize your headphone choice see what happens Sarah. Yeah, that's right. You're out of the tank out So, yeah, the the Jabra Your buds should arrive tomorrow. I'm so excited Oh, yeah, you're back you have video and everything am I? Audio your audio is the same. It's good It's just okay Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what more What more to do about the audio but I blame the political party you don't like Yeah, those people are the worst You know That place that I disagree with All of the worst people I like the least are the ones most at fault. Yes, exactly Like that guy at the grocery store today who looked at me weird he's to blame He's very obviously from the opposite side of what you believe in He was buying flowers too like obviously a dozen roses for someone and I you know, I kind of Didn't I didn't like his tone I thought you know, why don't you lean a little bit more into the love that you're trying to provide to somebody else? Stop bothering me and my dog. Thank you. All right Are you ready to feel the love for tech news? Yes, yes, I do I am it's not often I think of it in those terms, but yes, probably best There we go in three two Lance Moore has supported independent tech news directly for five years be like Lance become a DTNs member at patreon.com slash DTN s This is the Daily Tech news for Thursday February 14th 2019 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt. I'm from studio feline I'm Sarah Lane from the shores of Lake Merritt. I'm Justin Robert young and I'm the shows producer Roger Chang I'm the short. I never thought of that. You're right. Huh. Oh Sure, I really I guess there was a shore I can walk I can walk to where there is a Granular earth There's a place where water meets meets land. Yeah, it's it's also only Shindeep if I recall correctly Lake really no love Yeah, on this on Valentine's Day, we've taken this moment to reveal that indeed it only goes Shinde Love is only Shinde All right, we are gonna talk. We're actually gonna follow up We've got a little bit of new information some new theories about Apple's news subscription service So we'll follow up with that in a bit, but let's start with a few tech things you should know Apple said Thursday it will resume selling older iPhone models in its German stores iPhone 7 and 8 models were banned last year due to a patent infringement ruling in favor of Qualcomm in order to comply with The ruling Apple said it had no choice But to stop using modem chips from Intel in phones that are headed to Germany now Those phones will contain Qualcomm's C modem chips instead Can a list reports that 32% of smartphone shipments in Europe in 2018 were from Chinese manufacturers mostly from Huawei Samsung finished the year out on top in Europe with 28.7% of the market down 1% over 2017 Apple's second with 26% down 5.1% Huawei stormed in a third with 23.6% up 55.7% and Xiaomi rose 62% to take 4th at 6% of the market and HMD global aka the seller of the Nokia brand had 2.4% Pulling in at number five. Just yeah stuff to keep in mind when you're thinking about how this all works sources tell Nikkei that Google plans to release a lower priced smartphone this year and Moving quickly to take advantage of disappointing iPhone sales also trying to get on these lists of top-selling phone makers Which they're generally not on Google's new phone is said to be priced lower than Apple's iPhone 10 R The 10 R starts at seven hundred forty nine dollars the latest pixel line released last October starts right now at seven hundred ninety nine dollars So that would be a significant price deduction reduction other products planned for this year include smart speakers wearables and web cameras according to the sources plus a new premium phone in the pixel lineup if you're worried about that All right Let's talk a little bit about Amazon following through on the reports that they would in fact change their Single headquarters in three locations to be a single headquarters in two locations Yeah, hate to see people break up on V-day Tom Indeed canceled plans to build a corporate campus in New York City The campus was set for Long Island City Queens and Amazon claimed it would create more than 25,000 jobs in the area And saw it nearly three billion dollars in state and city incentives several local lawmakers criticized Providing subsidies and Amazon said because of that opposition it cannot quote Create the type of relationships that are required to go forward with the project and quote What are the the best analysis of this if you really want to dig into it is from Jonathan Shaver over at Tech crunch where he points out kind of everybody loses here There could have been a win-win where Amazon relented on some of the subsidies and and promised Better behavior than maybe it has exhibited in Seattle where there's a lot of criticism about what it does to its neighborhood there where it's located And and actually provided jobs There's no doubt that Amazon would have provided jobs and even with the subsidies Most people agreed that it would end up making the city money The objection was just like why should we give them this this money to begin with it would be good for them to be here But instead Amazon has pulled out my my guess is I wonder if Amazon's still planning on Going back to New York if this is just hardball negotiations because they are not saying we're gonna move this somewhere else They're saying no, it's just gone. We're not even gonna do a second Yeah, well and they're they've already invested in to northern Virginia and Nashville and they say all right Well, we'll just put more effort into that this kind of reminds me of Well back in the day now when Twitter got intensive tax breaks from the city of San Francisco to move into that beautiful downtown revitalized area hoping to be anyway Huge building and you know at first it was sort of like wow, this is great We're gonna we're gonna change the neighborhood and I actually lived in that neighborhood and I could see signs of gentrification Not all of it bad, but definitely not all of it good either So the local lawmakers in New York who were worried about how Amazon might change the landscape of Long Island City in general But also he got 25,000 new jobs that sounds great on paper, but it's always more complicated than that I think that history has given them reason for concern To two things number one I think Amazon did a very very bad job of PR in this case They did not lay out and explain the benefits of why them coming to New York was going to be a big benefit The narrative was cast by activists and local lawmakers and by local lawmakers I don't mean Bill de Blasio and Andrew Cuomo of the governor of New York But rather people in Queens and Long Island City. They said look, there's no review. There's no oversight They've just moved in here gotten a sweetheart deal by people above us and everybody else is gonna be there to pay the bill It also might be the end of the bachelor style Hey cities, who's gonna cut us the biggest fattest check For the the lords of tech to move in to your neighborhood. I don't know how much longer on at this level They can sell it bachelors do Well, I was more the show the bachelor Okay, I've been giving out their roses to yeah Wasio gave Amazon a rose is what yeah, yeah Yeah, be a bill de Blasio certainly was pretty quick to spend You know spend his time in the overnight suite if you catch my drift And next thing you know, I guess tech companies can't expect to walk in and be at least showered in Hosanna's As they bring their headquarters and Google who is not Have a hard time attracting controversy Is expanding they announced back in December KV in our discord reminded us they announced back in December They're expanding in New York And they are able to do it in a way that is not inciting this kind of opposition So I think they've also been in New York for a little while. So yeah, I think one has to but not That jackie. Yeah, Google is sort of like and Chelsea neighborhood I would argue Google didn't do a nationwide campaign calling attention to itself when it decided to expand in New York Or and we also don't know if they ask for subsidies and right and I don't think I have that's the big the big thing Yeah, yeah Moving on wards. Tom Simonite reports that open AI which was founded by Elon Musk and sam altman in order to give away new AI discoveries has developed something They don't feel safe giving away The system was designed to learn patterns of language and scores better on reading comprehension tests than any other automated system We've seen so far anyway But it's the ability of the system to generate text that feels real that has open AI little concerned A research paper was published but not the full model or the training data Google has also put constraints on sharing AI research over fear of misuse Yeah, so, uh, roger you put it out in our prep meeting that this this feels like, uh, AI might have a version of virus research where Certain things have to be kept uh behind a safety wall and only certain people allowed to research them Yeah, I think what was so Disconcerting to the researchers was that this AI Was ability to learn but also generate text in a way that was believable And although a majority of the text was pretty obviously machine generated There were a few instances where it came out and it's like you would be hard pressed to distinguish that from perhaps a human with, you know, at least high school level skills of writing and They decided not to publish The the the model that they used to develop the AI nor did they want to release all the information all the input so the web pages books Uh newspaper had newspaper articles and stuff that they used to train it because they were afraid that people would use this And then maybe turn around and generate A troll bot or something else something far worse That would people would have a hard time distinguishing between What was real was fake and and but yeah, basically it's a fake news worry And it's it's not so much that it would generate fake news people can generate fake news It's the rapidity and and the volume of it that it could generate that they I think they were worried Yeah, I think we we we can all think of content farm types of articles that sometimes you get to an accident and you read it You go, what in the hell this is this doesn't even make any sense. This is bad writing And uh, that that's been going on for a long time But but yes to to be able to ramp that up in a way where it's like the AI is smart But a little off and perhaps could be used for nefarious reasons depending on who might be using it Is is it is is it is a concern? I wonder where we go from here knowing that the technology exists, but that It can't be given to people with you know, it can't be put in the wrong hands. Yeah Uh, uh increasing amount of attention being paid to ethics, uh with AI, which is a good thing I think uh like meet for orcs the eu copyright directive is back on the menu the trial log Negotiations have agreed to keep article 11 The snippets rule in article 13 the upload filter rule Final version of article 11 will require any site of any size That reproduces more than single words or very short extracts of news stories to get a license Article 13 requires commercial sites and apps to make best efforts to buy licenses for anything a user might upload and prevent Unlicensed works from being uploaded the law doesn't call for a filter But filters are probably the best way to do this The final text now returns to the eu council and the eu parliament for approval starting monday february 18th With a vote by the eu parliament's legal affairs committee A plenary vote of the parliament is expected in late march or early april a few weeks before eu parliamentary elections And by the way, do you think this is just a european thing? India is seeking public comment on proposed rules that among other things Would require internet companies to screen and prevent publication of unlawful information or content So prior restraint upload filters are all the rage and there's going to be a big battle including companies are uh I'm sorry organizations like the premier league and ifp the music organization in europe against These article 11 and article 13 requirements here Yeah, I mean the as you mentioned this is a worldwide question as internet becomes not only an aspect of discourse and business but synonymous with all discourse and business Uh, I think we are kind of at a crossroads on whether or not we want to Mop up the mess after people make it or we want to hold these companies liable before we even start and it's something that I think is strange to us because we've sort of uh You know watch the internet flourish under, you know, uh safe harbor guidelines. Yeah, agreed J. B. Morgan has created its own blockchain based cryptocurrency to help Settle payments between clients of its wholesale payments business j. P. Morgan hopes it can reduce risk and enable instant transfers JPM coins will each be worth one dollar and will only be available to the company's retail customers To be used with each other over the j. P. Morgan quorum blockchain Customers must be approved by regulators to use quorum in order to avoid money laundering All blockchain nodes on quorum are operated by j. P. Morgan and a related move And financial operators of alley pay is buying a 15 year old payment processor world first Which is based in london world first lets businesses and people move money between countries at prices lower Than regular banks so everybody wants to be in this retail money movement situation because if you can make it faster and cheaper You can make more money off of it J. P. Morgan wants to do it with blockchain although a lot of blockchain experts criticize this saying J. P. Morgan could do this with a database and some servers and it would still be faster and instantaneous They just wanted to put blockchain in the press release j. P. Morgan says no We couldn't have done that because of regulations Whereas if we use blockchain and change it into j. P. M. Coins, we can still meet regulatory requirements But do some things we couldn't do if they were actual dollars I don't know but enough about fintech to say if j. P. Morgan is wrong But it certainly doesn't hurt that they can put blockchain in a press release Yeah, I mean I would be inclined to believe them there that Obviously they're most of their Business needs to always think of how are we meeting or not meeting regulatory concerns? Yeah, and and and honestly, uh, you know blockchain is can be pretty efficient. This isn't really like a bitcoin situation If you're working to run it all the servers, right? Although I will say that this does show a little bit of what I believe will be the future of blockchain technology They don't always have to be what you know a cryptocurrency or bitcoin is. Yeah The jpm coins really just a tracking token. Yeah Well guys, we're in a pre-order Windstorm if you will getting a little ridiculous Samsung has a page up where you can pre-order the next galaxy device that you quote. No is coming So let's assume they're talking about the galaxy s10, which is expected to be announced february 20th You have until that day to reserve the right to place an order After the announcement, you'll have 72 hours after the device goes on sale to place that order and get priority Delivery is expected by march 8th while supplies last So it's not really a pre-order you can do right now It's the reservation of the right to make a pre-order in the first 72 hours in order to hopefully get in line to get it by march 8th You're reserving your reservation essentially Next year, I expect how bad do you want that s10? Pre-reservation reservation line to make a reservation to make a pre-order Sure. Yeah, we're we're in a weird place and obviously samsung loves their features And they obviously love their features not only in their hardware, but also now in their reservations for their hardware, but It is interesting because this did not come at a time when The idea of I need to get the phone and it's sold out for months It is as much of a concern as it might have been, you know, five six years ago I mean the smartphone market in general is stagnating, right? Sure There's plenty of phones that the question is whether or not I want to spend this amount of money on a phone more So then oh, I got to make sure I camp out or I'm gonna pay somebody to wait in line So I kind of saw day one It's a psychological trick for samsung's most devoted customers to make sure they order it right get in line first Be sure you want to make sure you're first get in here and and commit and then once you've made that reservation You're more likely to follow through and order it Then if you try to order it in the first 72 hours and you can't get through because everything's jammed And then you give up and choose something else Also, who would want to specifically in how rich and often uh android phones? Come out and if you are in the samsung ecosystem, that's a different story But I would say just wait, you know, it's not like it's not going to be there Tell that to any fan of any I guess I guess I just assume that that's the one real great the great benefit of Being outside of the ios ecosystem is that there's a lot of players that continue to make new and cool stuff And you oftentimes don't know exactly how awesome it is until people get their hands on But it also speaks to brand loyalty and we had this conversation recently on a dts episode where For for reasons that sometimes make sense and sometimes Might not make a lot of sense people have brand loyalty And so the samsung folks a lot of a lot of them will play into this and so go marketing team Yeah poor samsung folks. I'm sure that they are over the moon for it And I'm probably overstating how much people are willing to go from a samsung to a pixel to another Version of All right, folks if you want to keep up every day in in a fast we have we're like windows We we have fast and slow releases. This is the the slow release We've got a fast release called daily tech headlines You can get the headlines in less than five minutes go subscribe right now on daily tech headlines dot com Okay, yesterday we mentioned the buzzfeed report that said sources told it apple would announce a news Subscription service among other things a video subscription service as well Based on texture remember apple acquired texture, which was a news subscription service and that news subscription service is expected to be announced on march 25th Now this is all from sources. Apple hasn't said anything. It would cost customers $9.95 for all access to any participating newspaper or magazine So you as a customer you spend $10 a month you get to read everything that's participating in the platform And apple keeps 50% of the revenue and we talked a little bit yesterday about like wow That's a lot different than the 30% they keep from apps The 15% they keep from subscriptions after the first year Writing for recode yesterday evening. Peter Kafka has been around this business for a while He knows what he's talking about says he thinks he's figured out the logic behind apples give us half your revenue pitch to news publishers By talking to a bunch of industry sources off the record He went around and and pulled his sources and said why are they doing this? Why would publishers sign on to this many publishers and I quote Kafka here Think apple will sign up many millions of people to the new service And they'd rather have a smaller percentage of a bigger number than a bigger chunk of a smaller number Kafka says one publishing executive told him it's the absolute dollars paid out that matters Not the percentage And it's apples promise to market this and drive subscribers that is attractive to these smaller publishers That also explains why very large publishers like the new york times the washington post the wall street journal Who are doing fairly well with their successful paywalls these days might be less enthusiastic to hand over 50 percent because they don't see as much of a Marginal increase coming very similar to why netflix doesn't join the tv app or netflix isn't a prime video add-on They see they don't see the value in in giving part of their income to somebody else Now points to know texture which this is based on used to pay 10 percent of its revenues to its owner operators and 50 Percent to outside publishers and it was all paid out by usage So the model apples using is just the texture model. They haven't changed it with apple in charge Everybody gets 50 percent because apple isn't publishing anything in there Publishers keep 100 percent of the ad revenue So you can also see a lift if apple's going to bring in a bunch of new subscriber to your advertising revenue And unlike an app store apple's running the platform a lot of people compare this and say hey You only get 30 percent taken out if you run an app But that's because you have to create the app apple's creating the app and the platform and everything apple's signing up the subscribers here They are not making you do it. They're processing the payments Unlike facebook's news outreach, which let publishers keep all their revenue apple is selling the subscriptions here So they're doing some work for you and apple music Uh is just like this Although apple music pays 70 percent to its music owners. So that's a whole different industry. I guess Uh, justin, what do you what do you make of this? I think kaufka's uh information here is is pretty reliable And I can imagine smaller publishers saying hey, you know what a subscription boost is really what we need Ah friends join me as I take you down a very brief history of the hapless Misadventures of the newspaper industry trying to monetize the internet Uh, uh, remember folks that companies like tribune gannett the massive hearse that the the massive newspaper Uh, uh, publishers, uh, even up through the late 90s They had tremendous capital and tremendous sway and primarily made their money uh subsidizing their their, you know through print subscriptions and classified advertising and display advertising a lot of which came through like auto sales, right So what did the newspapers do when they were at a position of strength when they watched craig's list? Slowly eat away at their classifieds market. Did they start investing in new online solutions for Did they figure out a way that they could more directly sell cars to the people that had already been Uh, Plugged into their news cycle. No, they did nothing. They put their head in the sand and they uh put all of their Stuff online for free and they eventually began to lament why everybody stopped buying newspapers and started reading everything online Then came the paywalls which were way priced way too high and oftentimes even for the new york times We're thinly veiled ways that they could just get you to buy a paper We swear to god just buy a paper and we'll give you something online for free The good news is that the tide is high for news right now We have a very contentious political climate that has driven people beyond the paywall They uh the sun is high and they are and they are uh reaping the rewards of a good news environment The question that apple is bringing to them Is the same as you asking well, why would These news uh these news outlets give 50 to apple Why would a retailer sell in walmart? because walmart which takes an onerous level of uh, uh, what you would normally get in any kind of wholesale agreement Can guarantee that you are gonna sell stuff a lot more units What apple is wanting to do right now is put forward The most high profile and i would suspect because it's a very low bar to clear Articulate an exciting offer to consumers on why they should pay for news This has never been done and if you really see how well the washington post decided to do it, uh, You know with their super bowl ad it's not like they're very good at pitching that to people Uh of now beyond the very solemn journalist die, please buy our newspaper Which is not exactly i think the retail excitement pitch that you would want to do or necessarily survivable Let's say that there is a very boring time in politics That is just around the corner and now people what are are less in tune To pay for something that because they need to know the next thing that happens by the second So i would say the reason why we are seeing a hold back on some of the big players Is that they are afraid to burn their hand on a stove they think is hot I do think that they have taken bad deals in the past by tech companies up to an including facebook Which basically said hey, guess what we'll pay you money As long as you put time and effort into bringing people on to our platform and then we'll figure out this whole ad thing Uh, and they effectively cannibalized a lot of their own ability to sell display ads Uh, I think that was a bad deal this I don't i'm not convinced that it is. I think it's a pretty good It's a pretty good deal in that once they've set that precedent news costs money You should spend money in a value proposition for a user That's huge for any kind of paywall model I think the other thing to add to this is the new york times when we reported this on dt nasa a few weeks ago The new york times is doing well. It's making money Now why would they now want to hand over 50 to apple? They're like, hey, you know what we're doing all right I am maybe maybe you could give us a smaller cut, which apple doesn't do i'm sorry sarah What were you gonna say? Oh, it's okay. I I think you bring up the new york times Which is a good example and and I had mentioned. Yeah, there's a pay well I don't pay for that I just run out of articles and then I like find the story on some other publication that doesn't make me pay A lot of people do that not everybody's you know paying subscriptions You can think about that however you want But for for for the person like me that the new york times is not currently going to convert Why not get something out of me with a partnership with apple and I think that There are publications that feel like well, let's see how successful this is and then we'll get on board later Which we've seen with the music industry apple has done this before successfully and unsuccessfully in other arenas, but In general, I feel like if you are not going to get somebody to give you a dime otherwise This is a way to get a little money out of a customer But this is but to tom's point The new york times and the washington post are doing well now And you can make the argument to them that like hey, look you're making money But you should really be thinking about what happens if the wall street journals been making money for a while Wall Street journal has they have and and and they are doing uh, they're they're doing a good job there The wall street journal. I think They have been smart. They've actually consistently been smart, but then again They're a paper. They're a trade paper for a financial profession by and large I mean not to say that they don't do a lot of other stuff, but like they are a a Very reputable older, uh, base that is used to and excited about paying for stuff I don't know if the new york times is quite that I don't know the washington post is there When the politics is boring that things are this is a bumper crop and they are enjoying it And I can understand if apple's coming and saying hey start giving us this new thing where we get half of it They're like no The riches will never end. It will continue to rain money forever We'll see Hey, thanks to everybody who participates in our sub reddit. This is just one of many topics that you're all very very Uh enthusiastic about sharing and we appreciate that you can submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show Dot reddit.com. 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We cause because of our sunny disposition We shed light of truth and analysis And god smiled on all So, yeah, what do we call this show um this amazing show we call it not late for dinner. Okay Amazon and new york break up on valentine's day the texture of apple Love is only shin deep The tide is high as news is holding on Amazon sours on the big apple one simply does not post memes in europe I Feed all about it I don't get that one It's it's just a pun about the news stuff news feed. Oh news feed. Got it. Read all about it. Yeah I'm slow everything is news again The texture Would I'm gonna I'm gonna vote for the for the v-day From mojam Oh, yeah, okay. It's topical Old guy wrote too expensive didn't read Saw that too. That's good. Oh, that's in here. Uh, it's in here on the uh te dr A lot of things I don't read either too much money Justin, you have a favorite Oh The sun came out Well, it kind of went away again and it ran away fast You know, you know what? I love I love the oh, wow balloon is floating by my apartment right now. Oh, that's so sad It's like one of those balloons that are made into uh shape by um, you know animal shapes a balloon animal What is it? Is it a dog? Oh wait? It looks like letters. Oh, it's probably someone's baby shower It looks like it looks like d w or maybe wd arc wing duck I don't know That was very kind of like that was like a moment of art just now, you know, I look out onto this big window you guys can't see it, but Not very often. I see a blue metallic balloon shaped in letters floating by my office Uh, what was the uh, what was the winner? I like amazon in new york break up on valentine's There we go amazon in new york break up on valentine's day Yeah, I'm gonna shorten it to v day just for character purposes You should probably make it in I think I think people will understand that also great victory day No, but what I was gonna say is before I saw the balloon is So around around my apartment right now and through a lot of la and and other southern cities lots palm trees Right and la has those, you know real skinny really tall palm trees that have been around for a while You know, they don't give you coconuts or anything But they're kind of nice to look at but boy in high winds and today is fairly windy Yeah, I watch them sometimes and I'm like, how does it work? Those are strong roots because they seem like they should snap at any moment and they never do Gosh, I hope not I don't want it falling on my house. Yeah, well you lose leaves here and there, right? It's not as if they don't shed stuff, but it just doesn't seem like Their consistency would work when they dug up my front yard to put in the new sewer connection last year One of the things they ran into was the roots from the palm tree Running through the yard It was running through the old sewer line and they had to figure out how to get around it without, you know Compromising the integrity of the palm trees So the roots run deep Yeah with the palms potentially Roots run deep I mean, I love to look at them I just they they seem like a freak of nature that shouldn't work the way that they do in a storm anyway No, I know I look at Justin. I'm sure, you know in florida I you probably have seen lots of instances of that, but I don't know. Maybe the palm trees fall more Damian says the palm tree roots are bigger than the leaves Gosh, I hope so. Yeah, certainly. I mean Many roots of trees that you don't see under the ground are quite large I know that but it's just it's those skinny bodies those skinny trunks There um, that's that's like always the In the hurricanes that I I remember in my youth It was always the other kinds of trees that would get overturned the the yeah, right The palm trees never like you would very rarely I mean, oh, it would had to be like rotted out to fall over. Yeah, like you don't you don't see a palm tree snap It's it's I I'm sure it's happened make me nervous. I've never seen that I'm gonna be the first one They're a flexible. I'm sorry. I'm not trying to jinx anybody They bend in the wind They're they're they've got little rubber necks. Be like a palm tree. Be like a palm tree And support our patreon. Yeah, that's right Many palms do we have so many good palm trees supporting us. Oh, uh, I should I should remind people that um If you are doing the thing where you're sticking with your tier for three months in order to get the mug or the poster uh, you should make sure to go to patreon.com slash pledges and double check that your shipping address is in that column on the right Even if you put your shipping address into your patreon profile, you have to separately give us permission to see it So go check that out patreon.com slash pledges and make sure it's there if you want to get something mailed to you Send a message out to everybody uh at those tiers anyway, but just as a reminder and we're still doing that uh for two more months if you're a patron and you stick at your tier at the uh at the Analyst advisor no wait advisor and master level the advisor and master level if you stick at those those levels You will get either a poster or a mug Booneba nice nice noise um Man, I'll tell you what I'm curious to see. I think with that ai story that we did I I do wonder whether or not we are going to see When we are going to see a major National newspaper like a usa today or new york times washington post wall street journal Just say all right. We're gonna run Like filler the the same kind of content that used to be wire stories like just little capsules of stuff like that Instead it's like all right. Well, we're just gonna turn on The ai bot and and it's just gonna generate it can reliably generate for us sports capsules or You know random stuff like that. I feel like that open ai story. There might be a little fud going on Uh, I actually got a random email From a friend of mine, uh sending me this story and giving a little uh, uh more background to it that apparently there's There's even more that they are working on uh, that Is even more advanced than what they were talking about here. Yeah I I wouldn't be surprised the reason I didn't poo poo it in the show is I think the idea of ai researchers coming around to understanding as you mentioned with google too That um, oh, yeah, it's great to be transparent and open But there's some stuff this these can do that we're not ready for yet And until we have the ethical framework in place Maybe we should we should be careful what we release out there for anybody to use because Naradu Wells can do it faster than than say the financial industry or something like that, right? So yeah, that's a fair thing to think about On the other hand the fake news thing. I'm like not sure that The rapidity of it could could make it really bad But it's not like we don't have a bunch of stuff. How like we don't have instant, uh, uh copy and paste replayability now Exactly, so I'm not I One of the comments And not in the box, but in the tech crunch version of that article was there was some fear about deep fakes where it wouldn't try to impersonate Uh in a video and audio. Yeah, but text. I mean, no anybody can write something that they say is impersonating somebody So all all the previous caveats apply like consider the source Uh, is is it a reliable source? Is it somebody that you respect and no gives you good information? Like combating this kind of ai fakery Is no different than combating the old-fashioned human created fakery. It could also be just they want to They they want to shift away from a model where they were just constantly Yeah, uh making public everything they they've done Yeah, and that's why I say like that concept is probably a good one to start well because They are A company with a reputation and they don't want to be the company that let loose something that people now blame them for Yeah, yeah, you know and and by good goodness, uh a a fake news generating ai doesn't have to do any kind of damage to Reek a lot of havoc on your public reputation That's a hot button item right now, right? Yep people will They'll get fired up tom tell you what man. That's what gets them fired up these days is uh, Fake news by the way did did uh, you guys I I assume did cover the um The the split of uh, was it was it snopes and facebook as a fact-checker? Did that happen while I was in hawaii? I think so Didn't Snopes in any detail. I think it was two days ago Oh Snopes, yeah, snopes pulled out of the whole fact-checking thing. I remember reading about it I'm sensing with a shudder freighter coming up I'm just saying, you know, look, uh, you know Love is in the air and so should accuracy and accuracy is that uh You know when they're putting out quotes like oh, this was an unimaginable Impossible whack-a-mole That they were trying to play and ultimately it didn't benefit facebook or snopes to have their name on saying things were right or wrong uh, you know That was more than two days ago, but uh, I missed not what it used to be You want to know what it was friday because I remember I was I was reading. Oh, I know what it is back from uh Coming back from san francisco February 1st Snopes quit fact-checking partnership with facebook. Okay, maybe they gave a statement or something like that. Yeah, they probably formalized it Yeah, you know, yeah, I remember reading the story on friday I see I knew it was I knew I had heard about it earlier So yeah, it was while I was gone And I swear it was either in daily tech headlines or dts because I'm pretty sure that's how I found out about it. Oh, yeah I'm not just part of the company. I'm its biggest customer You'll like the news we read I guarantee it I guarantee it I guess I don't know everything's everything's suspect these days now the whole men's warehouse thing that guy Got in trouble. So Oh gosh, that's right. Yeah, I don't that's not funny anymore. Is it I don't like that Wait, did like his suit were his suits are all like no roger roger something worse. I'm telling you Wasn't about a suit. No, well lawsuit maybe but As they'd say on vanderpump rules, it's not about the pasta None of you're gonna get that but I I'm aware of vanderpump rules, but I don't get that specific It's you know It's an ongoing theme That only the vanderpump kids could teach us I only watch chinese drama finally finally we can we can learn these lessons teach us vanderpump Wait, is that a show or those real people? The lisa vanderpump is Okay Lisa vanderpump is gosh now this one's really out She is part of the Beverly Hills housewife crew She has a spin-off show because she's a restaurant owner Where it's basically a show that she's barely in About a bunch of 20 somethings who are all you know, hook it up and and fighting with each other that work at said restaurant So that's and it's her rules because she's the boss. So that's what vanderpump rules is. It's a reality show and the rules are it's I'm I'm positive That none of you would enjoy this show Uh, what however, and I don't even really enjoy it, but I don't mess an up I hope you enjoyed this show video watchers because we're wrapping that up right now But audio folks stick around there's more to come