 Okay, my name is Lionel Brosch. I work in MRI. So I'm not a designer. I'm not a programmer. I'm actually a guy who designs a device and make it work and tries to actually get the whole things together. I'm working on a new type of MRI device, something that sees new kind of contrast and can be explored for medical applications. And I want to make it open-sourced. Now, MRI is not something you can build in your garage. It's some complex kind of equipment, as you can guess. It requires a lot of skills and so on. So making things like this open-source is quite a challenge. And what I want to try and make is something like an open-source hardware repository. Something you could install on your computer. You would actually be able to browse projects online. If you find something that's interesting for you, you download the file, you have all the blueprints, all the steps needed to actually make the device, all the skills needed, all the documentation and so on. And then you just follow step by step. So basically, the code is the blueprints and the compiler is yourself or whatever tools you use to actually make the device. And when the device is built, you have a virtual environment on your computer that actually can track what the device does and so on. So that would actually be quite nice to develop these kind of ideas. But I'm not a designer. I'm not a programmer. So what I would like to have is some help from a designer or programmer to give some inputs about how this could actually look like. Not make it at this stage, but to have some realistic view of how this could look like technically so that I can apply for a grant and get actually someone hired to do the job. So if anyone here would be happy to have a discussion or chat tonight or on the beer or whatever, I'm happy to talk. I leave my email address on the board so you can contact me. Thank you. This is a new kind of MRI device. So we have a magnet. We have patients coming in there and so on. We have a few prototypes already done. It's working great. We have clinical studies going on. And now I want to open source it, which would be great. And I'm not the only one to do that. There is a whole community doing this called Open Source Imaging Initiative. They are working on Open Source MRI and ultrasounds and also devices. They are part of this. But again, we are hardware guys. And we have home design and the programming will be great. Okay. So design in terms of the hardware design in terms of the product or the interface that the MRI technician would be using? The entire thing. So basically what we've done in Aberdeen so far has been to assemble pieces that were built by suppliers because it's so difficult to get proper gradients and magnet and so on. These guys in Open Source Initiative are actually trying to regroup all their initiatives around Open Source hardware that are relevant to MRI. They managed to get the whole system actually from the magnet to the gradients, to the coils, whatever. So all the pieces are there for a bare bone scanner at least. So we need a bit more. And what we've done in Aberdeen is well, integrating all that, getting the software to work, getting the images, making the patient studies, creating, doing the research on how we can actually use it, what information it gives that could be useful for clinicians, liaising with the hospital over there. That's what we've done over there, yes. So a bit of, well, yeah, go to it. Thank you very much. But yeah, so again, having someone to help with those parts, so all the technical thing would be great. So if you want to help or to be part, that'd be great. Maybe, maybe time for someone else. Yes, I have them. I don't remember. Should I put this? So hi, I'm Sophia. I'm from the UVA team and the rest of the team is there. I want to explain a little bit the problem we are facing in order to understand the project. So we are facing what we all are facing, like mankind is facing these two problems, surveillance capitalism and the loss of control of our data. So we wanted to regain this data and this data ownership and we decided to build a platform to escape from the corporate consumer cloud. So to do, so what is UVA? Our project, UVA is a physical device that everyone will have, everyone that they want, we have in their house. And you can have their storage email contacts calendar or any kind of app that you can download from a decentralized marketplace. So we wanted as you can access to the device from anywhere through a secure connection via Tor. And the intention is that everything is open, transparent, auditable, easy to use. So this is the tricky part that connects with the design. In order to have some something that is very easy to use by anyone like our parents or grandparents, we need to make a big effort in design. So we have to develop a design system. We have also to develop the user interface and the user experience. These are part of the work that we are now doing. And we also have to develop the hardware case appearance. So that are the three fields in design that we are working on and that we need help and your collaboration if you want. We have received funding from the next generation internet initiative that is an initiative from the European Commission. We are open to a short term or long term collaborations. So anything that we are open to talk. And in fact, I'm curious if anyone has worked with like industrial design or anything like that. No. Okay. And. Hi. So if you want, we can talk about it. And I think that's all. Thank you. And we have stickers. So thank you so much. We have to talk with several people and also with small organizations like NGOs and just people. But we have like, we want to test with them the type that we have. So we are like in a second stage. Not at the beginning. But in the other side. That's not my thing. Not yet. We are like. I'd love to ask you how to do that. We can. I didn't. I didn't. Yeah. So. Okay. None of us came out. Yes. Finally. Yeah. See you in person. I've been trying to get to this bathroom all day. I don't have slides, but is there a web browser? Yeah, absolutely. Yup. There you go. There you go. OK. So. So why Philip is getting his things together. Don't forget, if you're going to the picture project, you can post the job on the website as well, just to sort of, you know, in size what it does, what you're looking for in the company. We might have some questions over back with you, but that's it. OK, no problem. So, my name is Philip Durbin. I come from Harvard University, and I just gave a lightning talk about our project at 2 o'clock, so you should be able to find the recording there. But I thought I'd at least mention here, tell a quick story about Dataverse that I told at the open source design table, which is that we did a big rewrite of our software about five years ago or so, and it came about because we've had a usability study done on the previous generation of our software. So it was called DDN3. We basically had some students from Simmons College in Boston come and look at the software and give us a report. And it came back negative. Your software is unusable, unfortunately. Which led directly to us saying, well, it was like a come to Jesus moment, like we need to really decide what are we going to do. And so we did a big rewrite with a folk, we hired a usability person and really focused on usability for the current generation of the software. And now what we're seeing is, I mean, this is not a direct line, right? But if we look at our installations, we now have 52 installations around the world, six continents. It's because exactly of the usability study, but I really think that the emphasis on usability has helped a lot. So I guess I'm just trying to spread the word that, encourage projects to bring in usability people to study the current state of affairs and see if you can get some traction in that way. How much time do I have? Should I wrap up? One minute. I have a totally unrelated project. I'm a dad, I have a 13-year-old daughter and a 10-year-old daughter. And I thought I'd show one other quick open source project that another dad and I have been hacking on. You're looking for input in some way? Well, I don't know, we could use a logo. Right now the 10-year-old is doing the artwork, using an open source tool called Piscoll. So she made this little bee and she's doing other stuff. But I just thought I'd just sort of spread the word about this idea. And the idea is that if you have a 13-year-old like me, like these kids are all on their phones, you know, they're not, you know, we would like to get them more engaged in the community. And they're trying to raise money for their class trip and to go see the Boston Red Sox baseball team, go play baseball and they want to go on a cruise on the harbor as part of the school fundraising effort. So we thought, well, what if we put these kids, what if they put down the phone and they could shovel snow, if you've got a lot of snow in Boston, or they could walk dogs or do cat-sitting, that kind of thing. So a friend of mine and I built this thing, mostly him, called Helper Bees. And the idea is that if you're a member of our community, it's kind of a hyper-local thing. And you're like, oh, I need a dog walker. You click on dog walking. And then the idea is that the parent or the neighbor is donating 10 bucks and getting two dog walks from these 13-year-olds. So it's just a way to give the kids opportunities to do a little something and then connect with people. So it's worked out pretty well for my daughter, where it's sort of introducing her to the world of work a little bit, where she was hired to be a party helper. And she was like, oh, what do I wear? So just kind of just get her thinking about that thing. So this is all on GitHub also, this Helper Bees thing. I just thought I'd spread the word. Thank you. Okay. Have you got... I have time. I want to put some stuff on the page. Okay. Do you have any presentation? No, I... Yep. So review or anything? Okay. So I haven't come prepared here to present the project and idea, but hearing about this beach... So, let's say... Let's give it a try. Okay. So what do I have in mind to be more challenging to the system? I don't know if you... Can you raise a hand if you're familiar with cryptocurrencies? Okay. This is a good crowd. Okay. Now the problem in cryptocurrencies is mostly the entry and exit from fiat to cryptocurrencies. And usually this is solved for now by exchanges. My third party exchanges which operate and facilitate you in your interaction and your bid execution on their platform. The problem is that those third party are allowed to censor you, they reserve the right to disallow you to execute transaction and even seize funds. Now my solution to this is to design and conceive unbanked cryptocurrency ATM. This is a bit challenging because the current existing ATM, you have the ATM which is calling an API to an exchange executing the trade according to what was the customer doing. But here you have the risk that you as an operator you have to take the cash from the machine, go to the bank, deposit the cash, then wire the money to exchange. Here there are two third parties which could seize your money. First is the bank who can simply close your account and say we don't accept your funds. Secondly there is the exchange which could ask okay how do you get the funds and all the AML and KIC procedures which is inconvenient for people who want just to use the technology. So there is like a bottleneck to access this technology due to relying, still relying on the third party. So my idea is to build the descent, not descent but I think it's using the word, unbanked cryptocurrency ATM where the price would be determined locally by local offer and demand and people would speculate on the local transaction, on the local demand. So the feeling and the emptying of the ATM wouldn't be the responsibility of the operator. The operator would have to maintain only technically like repair parts, reverse star screen or something like that. Now this is a very old, broad overview of the idea. Now in order to launch such a project I still have a lot of questions which I don't have to ask. This is a for-profit oriented project so I'm not willing to invest funds to pay people to work, to employ people, but I'm more willing to find a model to reward the early contributors and early participants in the project. There are lots of things to settle. A lot of areas of expertise are intersected in this project. For example, I would mean for the government's structures like the reward, the contribution and the whole model of the project. Then there is building the entire project which is what computer, what operating system, designing the case, designing the user interface. There's a big load of work. I have already some people involved from the community which more particularly the Monero one who are interested and contribute with an idea to this project but due to personal situation I'm kind of stuck. So if you're interested maybe to participate in something like this well, I'll drop my contact details here. Any questions, thoughts? What's the economic incentive? Usually the more cost-effective would be to use a bank and exchange but when you're censored by those institutions cost is not really a reason. Besides this, you as an operator you have multiple, the way I view the terminal would be able to have resources of monetization. First, maybe internet access. This can be promoted than internet terminal. People just browse the internet with crypto either with fiat. It can be used as a net platform like companies present ads on the terminal so people who are visiting passing by or they pay for free access to their website on the terminal. And the third is practically the cryptocurrency exchange where the operator would get a fee from each transaction from each exchange. And yes, now it's supposed to, I suppose to conceive a model to split the revenue between developers and contributors and people who are working with the project and operators. Which country do you wish to go to? It's an open source project which the idea is that anyone can build a computer, a touchscreen and a bill etc and they build their own machine. That's my idea so I don't want I don't have a problem with the rules. What rules? Is it legal? Is it illegal? You're starting on the premises that something must be specifically legal in order to do it so where is the why? Okay, so I'm going to if you want to continue very interesting discussion which I don't know anything about. I'm going to thank you. Do you know where this is? Continue, that's wonderful. I'm going to move on to the next project just because we're running out of time. No, you're running out of the camera. The camera is recording there. Yes, gentlemen prefer to stand on the camera. That's totally fine. Microphone is okay. Where is it? Okay. Stick it in your pocket. Excellent, this one is a bit cool. Hey, hello, so I'm Tom. I work on EtiSync. It's essentially end-to-end encrypt and sync your contacts, calendars and tasks. I know it's a mouthful. Think something like iCloud or NextCloud or Gmail account or Google account, sorry. But encrypt it in a way that the service provider for example, Apple cannot access your data. So for example, WhatsApp has end-to-end encryption, so it encrypts your data in that way if they're not clear. So how does it work at the moment? So it's been around for three years now. It's an old project or ish, young ish. On Android, for example, you just install the app and then you just start using it as if it's a normal Google account. So you continue using the calendar app that you love and the contacts app that you love and all of that just remains the same. So that sounds as if there's not a lot of UI and you'd be right that on Android there isn't a lot, but the UX and UI issue here is the onboarding because I had to explain it to you in 20 seconds or have a long and I think a lot of users bounce on that stage and I know from feedback that a lot of users install it, start using, like open the app and they're like, wait, I can't add calendars. Yeah, you can't, sorry. Calendar events and the reason is, of course, because you should use your normal calendaring app. But I think the onboarding is missing something in the way of nudging. So I thought, for example, about adding a button that lets you add an event but then when you click it, it actually says no, you should use your normal app. That would be a solution. But I think the problem is that all of the onboarding flow is not really, I don't know, pushing people the right way, at least on Android. We have a web client where we actually control the UI and it's really ugly, but I think that's less of a concern. I mean, I want to fix that, but it's less of a concern as much as the onboarding, which is really poor for all platforms. So this is something I would love to get help. And also we're funded by, I mean, support is not really funded, but NGI is zero, and on that, I don't know if you're familiar with them, and they just had a meet-up so we're partly supported by them. Yeah, so, cool. So it's a transport for enter-end encrypted contacts. You have a contact or a calendar event on your phone. It goes to wherever it's going to go to, but it's encrypted there. So yes, but in addition to that, it's not just a transport, it also just stores it. So think exactly like iCloud. So if you lose your phone, you can just install it again and everything you can download back as long as you have the encryption password. That's, by the way, another thing. If you lose your encryption password, you cannot access your data. And that's another thing when we kind of like need part of the onboarding or maybe a bit later, I don't know, like five days in to kind of have a way to make sure that they know it and they have a backup of something. I don't know. It's a lot of challenges, essentially, of bringing encryption to like a wide adoption. Yeah. So they force you to copy it, so you have to write it down. Yeah. That's actually a really smart idea. Yeah, I mean, but that's exactly the kind of help I need. So those kind of ideas and that kind of like workflow that solves those issues. And I'm going to do that, I think. It's really smart. That's actually the amount of users that reach out to me like, hey, I know you can't help me recover the data because I lost the thing, but can you help me reset the account? Yeah. So information is stored on anything. So everything is open source. You can self host if you want. But we also offer a hosted solution for two US a month. So it's not a lot for the West, I think. And we also, by the way, do fair pricing. So if you're like in India or other low-income country, we, you know, we slash the price 50% or whatever. Do you have many users currently? So because it's open source, I mean, the eighth one we have in the thousands, open source, you know, you look at the downloads or like of the Docker image and all of that, it can be anything between zero and 20,000 more. I have no idea. But I mean, just guess completely. Yeah. Yeah. And also it's packaged by distros. So I don't know how many downloads are there. Like it's really difficult to estimate. Yeah. Is there any particular place that people can go to, I don't know, forum gossip? That's a good point. Yeah. So just atasync.com. But that's more, so at the moment, the company, like the hosting is kind of indistinguishable from the open source project. I mean, it's the same website. Okay. The internet is not working. Yeah. I mean, whatever. I've had it all day. Like internet is really bad. Yeah. Okay. So atasync.com, atasync like this. Yeah. And atasync.com. Yeah. And I have stickers as well, actually. I have more. Yeah. I should put more. Yeah. I don't know. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we have an ISE channel. You can connect for Matrix. We don't have a mailing list, but what else do we have? We have a few other things. And also, by the way, I'm really it's not that like, I think it's a good idea to do those things. I've done some of them and I see that, you know, the ramp up like so many more users stay or, for example, do those intercom like but ours is open source based on XNPP, blah, blah, blah, blah. But then the moment you add that, people actually ask you questions and they retain more and say, is all of those small things that you think like, it's not going to matter. I need to code more. And then you're like, you do that. They're like, oh my God, spike. So I really know the value of it. It's not going to be one of those kind of like, oh, leave me alone kind of kind of communities. Yeah. Cool. And use it. Yeah. Use it, by the way, just in helping. Yeah. Thank you. Okay. Anybody else? Back. Super. So did you hear the sort of initial Yes. Hi, I'm Ishtman and I'm actually pitching for a friend who couldn't make it here roaming around stuck in another talk. The main thing is so what he created is a library for collaborative editing. So for Google Docs like thing and it's really stable now and it's used by a lot of users and I myself, I'm a heavy user but what it's completely missing is awareness. So making people aware that other people are using it. So it scales to dozens of users and it's really hard to follow what is happening. For example, there is an example here so you can type text well, here and what we need is some kind of a design system for awareness that goes beyond those basic ideas that Google Docs has for example the colorful animals on the top or the the cursors. Because it supports a lot of data types and things for example drawing and already here the usual awareness thing so awareness is that you see what others are doing and not working here. We really need ideas how we can get the information to the user that something happened here that was made by another user. So that would be awesome if we could get some help on that. There is information on yjs.dev and there's a Github there's a discuss and Github issues with contacts. A realistic idea if I wanted to join that and collaborate with you how would I do that? Just go on the website and then scroll down it works on mobile and then click the drawing tab and start drawing and then you see somebody is drawing but you don't see who is drawing. Are you drawing right now? Are you in the same Wi-Fi now than this laptop? Yeah but the text should work. I know. Yeah it's so you saw that? So this magically appeared but we don't know who did it. Yeah some ideas some design system that everybody can just use so we are ready to implement it but we need ideas. I have ideas for you. Or you can use the idea machine. Okay. Oh so a lot of people joined it. Yeah Yes you can draw with different colors yourself. Excuse me? Well this is just a demo so you can Yeah but even if a lot of people are working on Google and even 10 people are working on at the same time it's really hard to you need to look at the document to see who has changed what. Yeah that would be cool. It's all in JavaScript. Thank you. So how do we get in contact with you? Basically on yjs.dev I can't see it here right? So yjs.dev And there's a there's a discuss link guitar very active guitar. Yeah. Thank you very much. Just to remind everybody please don't forget to post the job to open source design.net slash jobs because that's where it will move outside of this turning on people to more people. Okay. Anybody else before we yeah because we're a little bit over but do we have anybody else who is interested? Maybe one more? If not that's one more quick one.