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Wow man y'all heard it She told you what you got to do if you really want to say locked in check it man Hey, man, we got a guy here y'all. He don't need no introduction as I always say But he got somebody with him today Jump man Man jumping things out still he's more like the jump man of future and drinking it was something Who gave you that name myself yourself where you where did it come from? Well, what were you before jump man cuz I probably wasn't your first name Well, it just came from my first my real name. Okay Kind of easy so you just came up with jump name off the rip. Yeah Okay Let's find out what you from jump man. Let's talk about it Man, I ain't know you right up the street man. Did you know my boy? Oh, he's from Dower oh what it to lie. Yeah, I'm not the water. No, this is the last interview he done here Really? I'm Peter water too. I engineer and produce too. So, uh, me and Wally like when I really start going real hard I used to record bro like every other day. Really, but show for show man Oh, you know, this was last place his mom his mom and dad did interviews on here after he passed You know just meant a lot to me to get to speak to him. He talked about God a little bit You know, he had been shot before so, you know, how you know, how do you also do y'all know how y'all be? You know, I'm saying back in the days out of one out there Give me a story about woody that we can hear. Oh You know, there was just a little homie bro used to I say one thing about him He was real like Not aggressive, but like if he wants some shit, that's what he on like he ain't trying to hurt that shit Couldn't nobody tell him. Oh woody chill this and that the problem go this movie. He's a cool young nigga Okay, so um as a kid growing up, you always wanted to be in the music industry Conner but then you know go to this my cousin. So, you know, once he took off all the way out like shit I got to find something to do if I'm carrying suitcases around this You had your cousin you you just was born into it. Yeah, I didn't like that. But how far apart in age? Oh Let me see. I'm 30 Okay, so you're not that far No, no, no, he's come down here with we'll be in fat and all them. I'll be at all the shows So he inspired you really yeah, I mean I wouldn't say inspire me I would say no, no, no, I wouldn't say inspire me. I would say he really showed me how this shit go Oh, I'm saying you could choose like if you want to do this with him, but you want to you feel me So he your cousin so he's your mama's now my daddy your daddy's brother's sister brother. Okay, sister's son Okay, got it. Jump man in the building Okay, tell me a story about him when he was a kid when he was a kid. Yes I Look we was in Little Rock, right? We was out there all playing these apartments. I remember like it was yesterday really probably 15 And uh, this lady was on our porch telling us to move around or something something got to get the water gun start shooting He probably don't remember that but I remember that dog Yesterday yeah, what she did she didn't run after him. No, she was she was just like getting hit with Had to run Oh So so man, just the music man and the things that you do got a man like like I've definitely Love I love watching your moves man. Like I said, I Talked a little bit about it before we got on air. I've seen you with a blue face Using LA I guess I guess that's me guessing now. It was a layer. So so how do how do these moments end up happening? Was with me And I remember looking at here Rella was parked in the car here to me wheels back to back in some whips and he was parked in the car Here to me and and I seen relo hop out the car fast like we was on some gang activities I seen them hop out fast I told whoever About that bitch real quick and the relo ass is like this blue face blood So that's out. Yeah, it was some shit like I thought it really was about to go down Yes, he got out the car for really got out the car fast But I guess he just seen them. So he was like damn, that's blue face them. So he hopped out that bitch But I hopped out following but when I got over there. I was like, damn I didn't really know what to say the blood in them. I was just like what it do But I guess Man that's good that you already know that cuz I haven't been with a lot of dudes who didn't captivate that moment But you can't be scared of dick right you gotta go on then make this shit Cuz niggas think he's dick right but who the hell is Like Speaking of just going with your move of filming yeah, a lot of niggas don't like pulling out the camera in front of niggas cuz they feel a certain type of way No, it's okay, it's very much okay You know at the end of the day you this moment is you you guys you guys are already blogging and talking to people anyway So this is what we do. I do the same thing I went for years carrying cameras around before balls talk. He's looking at me funny I had dudes with me dinner. I had people follow me around. I didn't know what it was gonna be. I'm being real That's what God working out. No, that's what God work Yeah, you gotta do things about faith and most people be trying to run around and act like they understand What's going on when they really don't they walk in in the dark and that's good But they got to understand the lean on that so they can lean out on their own understanding The thing is that I remember I don't expect less than less from you. Okay, because I remember the first interview Yeah, you said that you missed out on an opportunity and ever since that time you would never do that again Yeah, that's right. You know what I mean? I'm when you went home and you said what you said to your mom and stuff like that So that's right. I remember that but I put that in relevant. That's why he said learn from that's why I know like shit I probably would have been like damn you I do that's where a lot of them pictures me and Michael Irving got a picture over there and he did not want to take the picture And I told that nigga. I said look man. You take the picture whether you want to take it or not So you write well Like, you know what forget you But then after that man him rocked out we kicked it so hard like he was laughing like man, you crazy But he's still gonna take that picture I went to a lot of them games and did I put a lot of money Not free so so no, you know, you got to understand me these these times when I was out there It did feel weird a lot of time because you never know, but you get used to it, you know I'm saying you get used you get used to it and they be uncomfortable Because they don't know what to how to even how to even deal with you. You know what I'm saying So that's the way I look at it. I'll be tripping off them dudes man So man, I was listening at your man. I'm telling you I'll be listening at your tape when you you put a mix tape together Yeah, I always listen to one of the hog lights or either Yes hog life it it be on my playlist like I just play it My come on I just play it because it's really I appreciate that Yeah, what's up, man? How you doing? That's my kid folk. Yeah But now so got a man when you think about just you know What's going on in the music man and hold on hold on hold on one thing question I want to ask y'all run a blueface topic for a second Why did he break up with Christiane? Oh Tell them that after after after after that one time that we bumped into him right we end up starting seeing a little mama at the studio Mm-hmm Yeah, cuz she look like shit about business always like trying to Just the way she come with it, that's that's why I'll to be He would never leave her after all of that to me the tattoos make it where you gonna leave Like yeah, yeah, yeah, well I'll tell you right now put no girl. I don't want no tattoo You're my nothing. I don't do that over there. I'm doing all that with you. Come on, bro It's not that serious And then again like I said just watching your moves I seen you with flip to I know I seen you with flip dinner Little flip. Yeah. Yeah, you did. Well, what the heck was you doing with flip? Oh Well, yeah, I was really I was really like flying or something Yeah, we was on a private. Yeah. Yeah, you really doing y'all thank you flip He cool with a with my with my friend King Lee, okay, Jay money Jay money put me with King Lee, okay? And little flip, you know tie with him as well So that did basically as we are just all was together because of the king But did you and you met him back in the days like cuz you've been in this game forever, so I know you had to run across him I Didn't never I mean But you know I'm saying but y'all didn't ever just chop it up No, and that's real because like I said me and you talked about like did you and where we get back together? That's just a whole video that popped up now We we we ain't get back together, but we was about to do something do something. Yeah, we ain't do it Well, so I gotta get him over here remember. I called you about that I'm like man, I gotta get this dude over here man, and I'm gonna get him over I ain't gave up on that that guy Yeah, cuz at the end of the day this for the coach over here y'all do do y'all watch balls talking I do yeah I do you mean you check every since you've been on here. No My favorite one with more in of my boy the other group of Melvin came Charge the tossed away that that's my Blood it is Matter of fact, I looked at it on the go said 1.5. Yeah, it'd be moving. Yeah, but They came in here on the interview what they was here together. I put them on here together Do that they nobody else doing that Yeah, so you got to be different to do that right there But a cause for that was to try to bring them together Like we set something up, but we didn't you know the intentions I don't know it didn't look like a setup to me, right, you know, I'm saying he said it was Hey, man, it'd be like that man like I say we go for the epic interviews man You know from phase on love to all the people that come over here gutter gutter came over here and let always be saying that we I'll be talking about the Comedian, let me talk about do you give residuals? Cuz I asked them that the other the other day and I was like don't do you think people gonna get tired of that question And what tell them what you told me I just told them that because these brothers is in these dressing rooms together They don't speak they don't talk if the conversation never had they'll continue to go with it the way they go Yeah, but the cause of that I hear you know from Deadly Banks to Columbus short all of them talking about it. So at least they know it's a thing But hold on cuz I want to talk about it. Let me talk about it. Ask me the question But you're not a comedian these dudes is comedian. Oh, but I still know about how I make money I was making that money before but here's the deal They got internet money. Yeah, and you got you got I went to New Orleans with Bubba dub and he went down there He filled a field up the the blues what it's about the house of blues. Yeah, and then I went with phase on he filled up Improv But these two guys do it two different ways Yeah, one get it the traditional way, which is phase on he gets his money from basically movies films and comedy these guys get there from Bubba and Country Wayne them get theirs from internet skits and comedy. So they kind of meet but they don't talk They heard I heard about a I heard Carlos and all them on that call on what he ain't on it But look, let me tell y'all something. Let me say my opinion. Okay. Yeah My opinion. Mm-hmm. My opinion is this I'd rather get a phase on the way and that's the way I'm building my legacy really feel me Because that's the true royalties in in payouts. You feel me? Yeah, think about it When you really think about the way that Carlos and Bubba dub and all the rest of them saying they get paid Just put people that was in the same position and then think about it. Yeah. Yeah, so our example Usually you think he's still making a lot of money on internet. No, okay. Let's talk about it. Now, that's real You think about Roy Lee and the family? No, but can Williams. Come on. No, you ever can win from those Can't win from those but you know, but you know, it's different But he's still playing the youtube. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's phase on that state That's the era. That's alex thomas. That's y'all come on. I'm sure I understand what you're saying But to piggyback on what you're saying It's it's a different industry because back then, you know to get into the film or a stand-up or whatever You had to go through a whole bunch of rigmarole. You had to go through, you know auditions and all this other stuff or Go to amateur night at an improv and keep a pile of whatever Just to try to get in and you do that for years before anybody actually see you and you know start liking your jokes and whatever You doing the skits and all of that. I think you get on a lot quicker Easier, especially if you go viral that first time and people see you they start to follow you I think that all these internet sensations Are aiming as much as they might not be saying are aiming to get to the movies and the movies and that So it's just that you don't have to go through the same way they went to get there You understand what I mean that fame though because I'm glad I'm not that I'm the real one But the internet fame lane I'll be seeing these internet stars when they out don't nobody know when they be at war more Just keeping the gutter. You remember when they be at war more All of them are lame. I ain't saying they lame like that for that to be the time No Because like I said, I'm gonna stand on what I said that little 480 is stop if he disappear Ain't nobody can keep watching that old video. Shit. We're gonna keep watching friday and these old movies and shit I didn't watch the movie Fat beach and shit with vacations and shit with phasers on any I'll watch that shit all that shit. Come on How long you think it'll keep going like example kevin samuels People still watching kevin samuels videos right now How long but how long you think Oh Y'all know this this facts the world working by speed You feel me you right. So if you can't put out nothing new you lost you right come on man. You only good is your last hit Come on that. Oh, shit Ain't nobody fucking with that old shit like that. I got a lot of old shit I know people what they do with the old shit is it don't get good until you get real old And then the people use fucking we get some value So right now for years my shit wasn't doing nothing because it was old But right now i'm kicking ass because all the people that I was pushing people buying that shit now You see what i'm saying, but it's just different Unless you have platforms epic stuff like the migos and stuff that people never never never I'm just saying but it takes time for a certain footage to be valuable. I agree with that. Yeah, that's true It's like wine this shit get better with time. Yeah. Yeah, feel me. Yeah, but they sometimes you gotta think But sometimes they use But sometimes people go back and look at these old footage and bring it back Especially where tiktok is concerned and then remix old footage and make it new. Yeah Yeah, but they do because I'll be saying it too, but but you know, you still gotta be You feel me But they come back like you later later years later may want to use some of that footage in some of the movies And you still they're doing it right now the residuals. You still right now. You still doing it the way Money i'm getting the upfront license advance and i'm getting the yeah all that's hard, man Yeah, i'm doing it a lot too like five times a year From big networks, you're gonna go to tv movie coming like the whole movie for the whole movement Well, I just wrote one that i'm gonna shoot Okay Right, it's called get back I don't know So this is just a movie? So it's not on your life or not? No, no, no, no So you got you It's a movie, some shit I can write quick. Well, you know your boy. I can a little bit I want to put you in the movie Yeah, I'll get in there I do I can get it I can promise I promise you I want to put you in the movie Get in that hole and act bad. You gon' go, what? Them waiting on my moment, me. Hey, we got one for you. That's all I have, box down. You ain't got to put them in juice. I'm gonna get in this month and I'm gonna show you. I'm gonna get down, you know what I'm saying? Get down. We got the picture right there. Yeah, I rock with him. No, that's all. I'm on the same month. I'm on the same month. Me too. Me too. I'm gonna send him my script out but I sent it to one person. My partner, Bruh Bruh, Salute Bruh Bruh. Sent to the Bruh Bruh because Bruh Bruh my partner and I know certain niggas you know ain't got time to play with you. He gon' punch holes in it. You feel me? So, Bruh Bruh ain't... I say he gon' punch holes in it. That's what you do when you write a script. You send to people who you know that... Gonna give you the honest opinion. Honest opinion. Okay, that's right too. Look at you. I had to find out what he was gonna do. That's right and he did. He was like, boy, you better finish writing it. Really? Yeah, finish. That's what he said, finish. And that's hard, man. And I ain't finish. Sometimes you stop shit when you gotta go back to it. Who did you get pointers from to even know how to write the script and just come up with the whole process or did you just research it? Nah, hell nah, I don't be doing no research like that type of shit. It's from the... Not like niggas be doing nowadays. I don't do that old weird shit. That shit be so weird to me. I do other research like read books and shit like that. Yeah, yeah. But I don't be doing that old listening to a nigga talk for 26 hours and shit. He talkin' about, well if you go left and turn right and then if you invest in stocks, that might be good. But if you wait... You're like, oh man, I'm so sick of people and that shit. So I don't like all that shit, bro. That shit will put me to sleep. Go back to the YouTuber a little bit more. We seen some changes on the whole algorithm here lately. I called you about that. They did a profanity clause and it's a lot of gamers and a lot of people that's upset because of the way that the water changed, man. I can't get no views on that shit. Yeah, you told me, you was like, man, you can't really, you can't really pin on it, just do it for fun. And I think that's a good way to look at it. You know what I'm saying? Because if you're stressed yourself, I deal with them with them because you know they're gonna change the target every time because they're trying to figure out ways to keep money in their pocket for sure. And I ain't mad at them cause they hustling. And I was saying it all the time. You know, say like the Elon Musk nigga, right? Yeah, yeah. I say, bro, just say it, fuck it. I'm gonna spend 50 billion in by YouTube. Then he like, you know what? I bought it. I want to delete all these people's videos. Yeah. You know what I mean? Let me start my server over. I don't like this shit. You feel me? Like niggas can do whatever they want. And I think I agree with that. You got the pay, you feel me? So I'm just saying like, I don't be putting my focus in there though. So niggas like Vlad and Shun Kai, nigga, how that shit? You gonna give it to him? Yeah, fuck them in YouTube. The way I should be, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I'm just saying that to say cause any given amount, I was popping before it. Yeah. You up and down. So I don't care about that shit. I'm not saying that it's not no good too. You feel me? I'm just saying it ain't ours. No, it's not. Somebody might snatch it from us. And then I don't want to be sitting there. You know, I used to be like that, right? When I hustle, feel me? When I hustle, I used to stop everything I'm doing cause I met a new plug or a new way to get some money. And then when I started doing that, then that shit ran out of this nigga then went to jail or something happened. Now I used to sit back in my room like, how the fuck was I just making money before I met this nigga? Shit, they put all my faith in this nigga. Now, feel me? Never again, the fucking, this for my son. Put it in yourself. All your trust and faith and belief in yourself. You put it in these niggas, your ass is down to fall. That's real. That's real. I agree with that 100% man. That's why you two and the internet is concerned. That's why a lot of people should just go ahead and create their own platform, their own website and put all their content on there and just drive people to their own stuff. Yeah, yeah. I mean, even, that's what we should, I just told somebody that's what I think gonna happen in the next 10 years. It's just gonna take another 10 because we slow, feel me? But in another 10, I think people gonna be like, you know what? You just gotta go to lilbaby.com. Fuck all that, you just gotta go to, you know what I'm saying? You gotta go to go to tv.com or you gotta go to bosstalk.com. You know what I'm saying? The disadvantage of that though, we're living in a very lazy generation. So with YouTube, you're on one platform and you can scroll through and find whatever you want, everything you want, you don't have to go get off of that and go to a different platform to see what you want. You just scroll and sometimes they suggest other stuff that you never even knew about that you're just like, oh, let me click on that, whatever. So that's the advantage of YouTube compared to your own website. But when you think about people who shop, you go from website to website, if you shop online anyway, so why can't you? But I'm a girl who love Amazon because everything's on one page. Yeah, I like Amazon too though. You see what I mean? Cause I don't have to go over here to this website. Yeah, you can just search for them. Like I ain't no lie. I was on Amazon one day just buying a lot of shit, right? And then I just sat back, I said, you know what, I'm gonna try some shit. I just said, let me think of some. They got it. I said grinders or some shit. My fuck came up with a custom grind. I said, damn, I'm not gonna try to keep buying it. They got everything, this one. And it might be cheaper, it might be more expensive, but they got it. No, I didn't got it. When I went out on wildmoor.com, they was selling Jays and shit. I was like, bro. It changed, it changed me. Let me switch subjects right quick, man. Let's talk about the music for a minute. Like how do you feel about the music in there? Like the Dallas, yeah. I feel like everybody just needs to work. I just feel like everybody needs to work, bro. And quit worrying about the next person, quit worrying about who real, who this. If your music good, then it's gonna sell, you're gonna get your numbers, and it's gonna do what it's gonna do. You don't need all the extraness. I've been really disappointed in a lot of the people there. Yeah, I ain't got a lot, I'm disappointed, too. There's a lot of lies told in here. Yeah, a lot of lies told. A lot of niggas said that they were gonna do this and do that, and it didn't happen last year. Because I'm doing that in 2022. Nah, you right. What are the lies told on these microphones? I know one. I ain't trying to just isolate a nigga out. Nah, we isolate. Why don't you think about that one? Why and why? Because I was like, when he said it, I was saying to myself, like, why he feels so confident. You know what I'm saying? Like I think the record kind of made him feel some type of way. You feel me? When you get a big record, then my fucker will make you feel some type of way. And he thought it was never gonna be over. But I was like, just calm down, my boy. I don't say like you're the best in the state. And shit, shit, shit, shit. Because that's one thing that Jay told Kanye, man, you know, through the wise good, but can you keep making them? Can you keep making these hits? That's the most important thing that you can say. He did on J.S., didn't he? Yeah, he did. He told Jay, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit, shit. He ain't got it. He ain't got it. But he got to do it, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You got to show him off. Shout out my nigga, Cootie, who had the camera. No, I'm sorry. I'm Cootie. Shout out, Cootie. My nigga head on the footage. Give it to him. You got all the, you got some stuff, man. You got all the stores, he know it. He was there through all the time, he know it. I'm telling you like if you know something with me, jump in. I don't know. Give me a moment down in time, man, were you over there with G's and him too? For show, I was with LeFat and them. You with LeFat? Yeah, every day. Give me a LeFat store. All right, when I turned by 18, I was kind of hot. So I had to move, call Gunny, he like she had come out this way. So shit, I started going with him. All the videos and shit in Atlanta, I'm talking about dude used to wake up at seven o'clock and I already had to be at this video, this video, this video, this video, wake up. No, no, no. Matter of fact, video's over about 10 and 11. All right, we got to go to the club with these niggas. We got to go do this, wake up the next day and do it again. Same thing, over and over. Now it stops. I'm like, damn, I'm like, what the hell doing this shit for real? Every day we wake up, he gone. I got to call him. You feel me like, oh my God, in them over here and it wasn't over and all that back then, you feel me, you know what I'm saying? But it was good though. But yeah, shit, I done met a lot of niggas with good enough for show-and-show. I done been on the bus for web being there. How was that riding on the bus with you quiet in the corner? No, I was just like that shit. I was just quiet in the corner type nigga. No, I was just smoking shit. You weren't smoking or you weren't smoking like that. Shit, you crazy. Nigga took your blood over here. Shit, you crazy. Nigga took that. Nigga took your blood. I ain't say it, I ain't say it, nigga. Nigga took your blood, I didn't give it back. I ain't say I ain't even gonna talk about it, but just know I had some weed for show-and-show. They was the ones snatching all the blood to and everything. Yeah, we the ones snatching the blood. So y'all the niggas on that car was important. Come on, bro. Give me my little relative trouble. One day I give this nigga, we had a video shoot with Gucci Man and Goddy everybody. I got some drink. I'm sipping at that time, right? I'm sipping. Relo and them know I'm sipping. I give my cup to Zea Zilla, the rapper, right? He said, like, Goddy, you drink when you sipping? Yeah, I'm boom. So I get to him, right? Now Zea sipping and whatever. Man, these niggas go over there and take the cup. Yeah. Yeah, they say, nigga, that's got a cup. Where you get that? I said, Relo, I got it, I got it. They like, damn. Cause they, at this time, they don't really care. They don't really care. They don't care. They don't care what they did. I was saying, Gucci was like, can we get a Swisher? Gucci asked them, like, Swisher. He's standing right next to me. How about, let me finish it so I don't know what she's true. Nah, for sure. Gucci asked them niggas for a Swisher. Them niggas told them, $2. Them niggas charged them. I said, bluh, bluh, get Gucci a Swisher? Bro, now look, now look, look, look. Now look at them right down. Yeah, this real, though. We ain't got any video shoot. I got that set, right? In the club, going hard, all that. We ain't that bitch about 12 hours. This nigga was shooting from 11 in the morning to, like, two in the next morning. You feel me? So we just all chilling shit. You feel me? I went on the tour bus with Gaddy. That nigga saw them niggas at the shoot. That nigga saw me on the bus. That nigga said, go hood them young niggas with you. He said, keep them young niggas with you, no matter what you do. Nah, for real? That's what he done for you. He said, he said, keep them young niggas with you, no matter what you do. I said, yeah. Wow, really? Yeah. He must've seen when they were moving. And then when I went back, and when I got off the bus to go back in and get them, they ain't about to steal the prop money. Thought it was some real money to get out. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie. But you with them? Uh-oh. Okay, cool. I'm the man, I'm the man. Nah, nah, nah. But they're my boy Cuzzo though. They're my boy who was with me Cuzzo. But now look, but now look, so look. We sitting there, I'm looking at Gutter like this. I see the bag of money on the floor. I'm thanking this Gaddy money for real, but it was the prop money. I'm telling the guy, I'm like, hey, let me see one of them honeys in your pocket. Let me look at that bitch, we're gonna make sure. Cause shit, I'm finna take this bitch go to the car. Fuck Gaddy and everybody in this bitch. That's just what going on. It was also bulls. You know, I mean, you know, we actually, we trying to figure it out, bro. They had just moved from out of town. We stayed with me, they was on some bullshit. But they was good though. How was it like being around like Gaddy? What Gaddy was this? Was this the, uh, this was all throwback Gaddy. What you on? Yo Gaddy chain with the yo and the Gaddy on there with the wing. That yo Gaddy. That yo Gaddy. Yeah, that yo Gaddy. He wasn't even, uh, I think his girlfriend back then was Tizia. He was Gucci's wife right now. That was his girlfriend at the video. I remember this. Are you serious? Bro, I remember all this like it was yesterday. She were, matter of fact, she was running the video. Remember, she was like, y'all girls get over here. What the hell? All that. Yeah, yeah. Real new memory wave done in my life. They know here though. This facts. So I say like, I think it was a little bit hard that they might know some shit here. Yeah. And I remember seeing Gucci. I'm like, damn, bro. This a nigga that I really, really like. Fuck with like. You like Gucci a lot? At least they got to come out in $2 though. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no. We ain't even got enough to get no gold. So nigga, if you feel like you be friendly and get you out, we can't smoke. Yeah, yeah, no, no. Come out there and hit Gucci. I can respect that because y'all were holding it down. You feel me? You know what I'm saying? Like, that's what it's supposed to be. I mean, it's in the headache I was having. Cause I'm trying to keep good relationships to be cool. These niggas trying to tell. Man, we still in the middle of a car. We doing our. I don't understand. I'm about y'all. I'm about, I'm about to wake up out of my sleep. I'm like, well, what the heck? I'm calling what they are. They're like, well, we all, we close to the house. I stay all the way on the South side. I say, well, y'all let tell me a sign. You know, back then it wasn't just, you got to just take. I'm like, tell me a sign. Yeah, well, y'all let. They say, I think it's a moorlin. I said, well, y'all on the East side. What the hell is that I'm doing? Bro, look, this was so crazy. Get your hands off me. This was so crazy. My partner still in the car. He riding the laws had to escort him back. Oh, damn. Escorted him back. Come on, boy, tell them, man. I don't even know where I'm at, bro. I just moved out her brother. He was speeding everything. Escorted him back to the parking. They was white, wasn't it? Bro, nah, nah, that was ridiculous. Oh, who got here, man? I mean, we was in Atlanta, you know? Oh, you was in Atlanta, okay. Yeah, yeah. So you, that's when you were living down there. Wow, man. Last time you was on here, that Charlotte love shot out, man. That meant a lot to Junior. To Charlotte love Junior. Yeah, I spoke to her, man. Yeah. That's hard, man. I knew it was, you know what I'm saying? Stuff like that mattered to me. Yeah, I met Shawty Low too. You did? Yup. What y'all do together? At a video. It was a, what video was it? We was in, I remember we was in that apartment. Born out. Me, you, Shawty Low. I thought you wrote a little memory good. I want to say one more person, bro. We was out because the way they project, see it just got the stairs, they go straight up. You know what I'm talking about? Mm. Oh, damn. See y'all, man, bro. I'm old too. Yeah. My memory, I don't need to be remembering like. Yeah, I met a lot of niggas. I ain't gon' lie, I met a lot of niggas. Yeah, yeah. And which one, which one I'm sticking out the most to, you know, like, like, like him. Like, like what the coolest one? Yeah. That, cause he was all, he was 19 too. Yeah, yeah. He was all the boy shit we was on. He was like, yeah, yeah, shit, y'all. He like shit, I finally got some little niggas with me. That's all the same shit I'm on. You miss that, right. Yeah, yeah, shit. Cause I ain't gon' lie to me, to me. What NBA young boy doing that sound, all that, that's really a little fat sound. You know what I'm saying? He just a little more mature with it and got a little bit more to it. But that's the same as that sound, like beats all that. If you really listen to it, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Shit, yeah, yeah. Well, P.D. Younger, man. Yeah, man. We talked about him before on the show, man. Just real significant with Gutter, man. Gutter, you know, definitely, you know, that, that, that, been through a lot. Y'all been through a lot, seeing a lot of people, you know, that y'all, you know, go through it. Right. That's the funny thing that just happened. You know, just stuff like that. Right. Cause I know that affects the team because y'all so tight knit with J-Mun. I told Gutter, gonna bring J up here. I, I, I can't wait. Yeah, that one. You know what I'm saying? So how's it been around him? Shit, J a fool with it. Oh yeah. But he gon' pop it all day. Shit, don't take shit. He ain't, he doesn't even want to rental if it ain't a lamb or something. He gon' be like, man. He's like, isn't that shit? No, J 100 though, cause he, he just, he real a lamb. How did y'all get so tight though? When I first met J, J was, he had just had that big hit that first night last night. Yeah, yeah. And I just knew he was hiding the city. Everybody wanted to talk to him and, and, and fuck with him. So I just, in my head, I'm like, man, I need to get the J cause I was already fucking with a lot of people. But I'm like, I need to fuck with J-Mun. And I said, I met him at the, I went to the swag surfing video with them niggas with Fly. The niggas was saying swag surfing name Fly. And I was fucking with them tough. And I went to the video shoot with them and J-Munny pulled up. When he linked, we linked. Wow. And y'all basically just pretty much tapped all the way in. It was like, it was a real one. Yeah, yeah. That was one of the first big, big records too. I knew good, like no dumb niggas. It was in the mix with them niggas. It was dumb niggas. It was swag surfing. That's hard how they record still go. Yeah. And that shit still cries you right now. How do y'all like the Miami scene? Like the music scene in Miami? I don't really. You don't like with it? Cool. I mean, when she right now just, she my, you know, like I said, my artist moon out there. Yeah. Oh yeah, moon, but other than that, I mean. No, not really nothing going on. You got the older, the Rick Rosses and stuff from back in the day. Yeah. But just young niggas. Rosé, cool though. Rosé, cool though. Beniz, man. I respect your Beniz. But at the end of the day, you know, that's what I look at. Like, what a headset? I know you, there's a little, let's talk about it. What, how you end up even dealing with those guys, those different artists? Shit, I had my moon through a DJ Drewster. Okay. He just like, I got a record that you might want to hear. I think it's doing good. And I was like, man, everybody say that. That's what I'm gonna say right now. I ain't even listen to it. Like, like when niggas tell me that, I just, it sound like it's going out my other ear when I get to hearing that shit. Yeah. All that niggas be like, God, I'm the best rapper. And God, I'm better than this nigga and this. I mean, man, I only be hearing it. So y'all see me right now. I don't be listening. No, you don't be listening. Hell no. You got to show, you got to see it show it for real. The reason why I'm saying it though. I'm gonna contact with your bed. Yeah, cause the reason I'm saying it, cause niggas be giving theyself all the glory. Like niggas, you ain't shit. That shit don't even, cause get what, get what, air time OG, you give a nigga a shot and put that shit in there. You be like, damn this nigga trash. Yeah, yeah. Feel me? He just said he better than everybody on my label. Right. You know what I'm saying? That's why niggas be like, man, I'm better than him. I'm hurt. Why you son new? They do that every time. Feel me? Like, God damn this shit. What do you, do you feel like, like, what a way, Memphis got away where people, you know, say it. Yeah, Memphis is hard. Memphis is like, like. Yeah, I fuck you. Memphis is hard. I know what's sound good. When I go down there, I go gamble. Me too. Can we go to the horseshoe? Nah, yeah. How you doing? I got arrested at the horseshoe. What the hell? Then got in high speed. What the hell? Hell yeah. What was you doing? Man, arguing with my baby mama. Man. Yeah, that happens. That's a part of it, man. Arguing with my baby mama. She wouldn't, she wouldn't stop. Then you took them on one. Yeah, we had to. With her in the car, her drunk girl, that shit. Y'all just about dead, go ahead. Everybody, we both, we both drunk arguing. That's the way it be. That's drunken in love. But that's because of the casino giving you all the alcohol and shit. We ain't that just drunk arguing. That's the drunk. You ain't gotta take it? Yeah, you do. You gotta take it. You ain't gotta take it. They already taking it. When they be taking your money, you be like, I'm out of words. I'm drunk. You be coming to cry out. They counting on it too. I wait 30 minutes on that crowd. I ain't playing until they come back. And it give you the cheapest level of alcohol. You gotta ask for the more expensive ones. Takavaca. Yeah, but then when you come back, they be like, where my chill? Man. They ain't get the extra something too. They gonna want it. They gonna want it. They gonna want it. I mean, Oklahoma don't have no, no, they, it's different up there. They don't give you none for free. Nothing. You gotta buy all your drinks. That will happen though at the horseshoe. But I do like the horseshoe and tonic. Yeah. So Memphis, the sound, the music, is it gonna get better this year? Or is it gonna digress and somebody else gonna take the torch? I don't know. A little Glorilla on that ass. She on it. She gonna be in a few weeks. Nigga better figure it out next week. Next week? All right, Nigga better figure it out. Yeah, yeah. She seem like she gonna steadily go. Are you about to interview her? No. We got some stuff going with some of, some of the people, right? Yeah, hopefully. Yeah, nah, she hard, but everybody in Memphis hard. Everybody. Even the local little kids, and you'll be like, damn, then they can rap. But damn, she can rap. Like, they hard. But it didn't just start like that. You know what I mean? It kinda did. No, everybody went hard back in the day. We, it did wave with different places. I don't feel like they was rapping. They were doing something else. No, they was rapping. They was babies. No, I'm talking about, but I'm talking about that was still rapping. Like, when you look at project, I don't know. They saying all of this generation is hard. No, yeah. That ended all this generation do music. Right. Feel me? A lot of these other generations, the niggas was focused like prime time, like dealing with them and shit. You feel me? Niggas was trying to do other shit. Yeah, yeah. All these young niggas, they ain't trying to rap, tell ya. They folk. Yeah, yeah. Females too, though. Yeah, females too. They like got rap. Right. Well, what about everywhere else, though? Where's the other movement at? It should be more than one. We got talented people, man. All of us got talented people in these cities. Where's the music? Black people are talented, bruh. Hey, I be trying to figure out how can all these people rap. But then when you get a studio, them bitches don't be booked out. Right. What the hell y'all recording this shit is? Where y'all recording? They at the house. The whole studio. This the problem, too. This the problem, too, with a lot of that shit. Everybody wants to go so fast. Oh, I record this on my phone. My nigga, I don't even want to hear that shit. Honestly, niggas be thankin'. She cool, because they watchin' these little Instagram ads. I see it, you know. Bro, go get you a relationship with the engineer. Real talk. And seein' them all fuckin' do what you need to do. Real. Because you gon' buy that weed, you gon' buy them perks, you gon' buy them clothes, you gon' buy you bitch some. Niggas? But the smart thing about it was that, you know, most of everybody who's in rap game have cousins, little brothers, sisters, somebody. Yeah, okay. I got the time to rap. You need to learn how to be the engineer. You need to learn how to do this. But see, that's like back in the gap, like 1960. That ain't like now. You need to learn how to be the engineer. You don't know about a damn thing. You don't know about a damn thing. Look, that's like Michael Jackson. That's like Michael Jackson. No, it ain't real. That's all family. That's all family. No, listen. I know what you're doing. Now, this ain't real. I feel what you're saying, bro. You feelin' me. But it's still kinda the same. It could get real. When y'all came to Atlanta, when y'all said, when they said they was gonna come, get what I told them. Bring your computer, nigga. Cause you gonna do some music with it. That's it, that's it. And he know how to engineer. He know how to bring up a pro-twos. He know how to do what you knew and what he was gonna do. He know how to do all that shit now. Wow, that's whole. Feel me? I'll go ahead. He ain't know how to talk to myself. Cause I ain't know how to do it. Yeah, get that straight. He talk to himself now. Cause I try to go to school for it and see the valley. You're not with the gym. So shit. I with the gym in the middle of the school. Let me ask y'all something, man. You know, with this Fidding All Crisis is just going on. Hold on. Big scar and then three weeks later. Allegedly. Gangsta boo. Gangsta boo. Like, what do y'all think about it? Being people that, you know. He needs fake ass pills. If you not only in pill form, that's what it become. It's in everything else too. You know, you got to crack in there. It's in all that shit, right? But my biggest thank you is for the young people. They are getting caught up in them perks. Them fake perks, bro. If you know that, then come from Walgreens. If you didn't see it, come out of Walgreens yourself. What are you doing? Just kind of chill out. Nah, that too. Nah, that too. Just get that shit to break. Just tell them the truth. I'm just saying, just get that shit to break. Nah, you right though. They need to take the same analogy that a lot of us took with crack. We was like, okay, that's your kid. Okay, that shit kill you. It make you do crazy weird shit. We ain't doing that. That's what the motherfuckers need to be saying. We ain't doing that. And the funny thing, he brought that up because what I wanted to talk about, okay, we had somebody recently who came on, Kenny B. We were talking about perky sets and stuff like that. And I don't know what y'all take or y'all probably just do weed or whatever. Yeah, let's say that. Hold on, I just smoke weed. I drink a little bit, but I just smoke weed. Okay. No cigarettes, no vapes. No, no, no, nothing. Thank you, thank you. Like Boosie said, he Boosie said I'm 25 and I ain't never snore the line. We older than them, we still ain't never snore the line. But this goes for weed and everything too because, you know, being from Jamaica, I know a whole bunch of people who smoke weed, right? We smoke a lot of weed. But my question is, and this goes for every and any drug, when you take any drugs Okay, you're not on drugs. Are you more productive when you're not on drugs compared to whenever you smoke weed? It's like, I don't feel like going here today. I don't, I'm, man. I feel you. You know what I mean? No, I'm addicted. You feel me? But are you more productive? No, I'm just, it's just a mentality thing. Like I'm addicted. So like if I don't, I couldn't even be talking to y'all. I'll be mad as fucking hell. Like, don't talk to me before I smoke. Like, don't talk to me. If I ain't smoked, don't talk to me yet. So while you're, so you smoke, you can still get stuff done on time. Yeah, hell yeah. Hell yeah. If I don't smoke, I'm going to be looking for the weed to get there on time. Okay. Because the thing is that You know what I'm saying? I'm like, I got to be there in six. I'm like, I'm about to weed. And he was talking about, you know, before he started taking that, he was a hunger for his music. Always on the go, whatever. And then when he started taking it, he was taking it for four years. It's like it slowed him down like he didn't feel like doing this today. He didn't feel like doing that, you know, he was trying to numb whatever, because a lot of reasons why people take certain drugs because something went on in their lives or whatever they're trying to numb. But now realizing you can't get rid of it, numb it for life. You know what I mean? So is that worth it? Or turn around and deal with it? Or go see a counselor or some talk about it? You saying just do that shit? Because there's a risk taking all of these different drugs. Even weed they're talking about might be laced with it, too. Yeah, they sound laced with what? With fentanyl. You can find that on there, too. They did. But I ain't gonna lie though. They said that you can get COVID if you ain't six feet. You don't want to knock that addiction at all. No, if I get knocked this one, shit. I'm being that, hey. Yeah. You gotta knock on the wood. I ain't gonna gotta smoke. But listen what I'm trying to tell you though. I believe though you can quit. Like myself, I believe I can quit, right? Have you ever tried? Hell no. For what? That shoulda dropped me crazy. You gonna try? That should sound like I'm eating. I ain't gonna lie. I ain't stopped eating. Even when I got probation, like when I went through my case and shit, the whole time I brought a big brother soup, he like, you gotta quit smoking That's what I was saying. I'm telling him, I said, no I ain't. Whoever I got gonna let me smoke. And they did. On my life, when I went in there, the nigga was from the south then. Why I tell y'all I'm from the south then, when I walked in, he's from the south then. He like, got him! I swear to God, my whole year I got to smoke the whole time. Ooh, you lucky. Wow. That's how I let ground work. I hope you don't do that shit. They go there to check the times. You see me and my boy out there, right? They ain't going back. I ain't going back. Let me ask you another question. That's a little candy on my pocket. That's the hood. That's the hood candy. That's the hood candy. You see that? Come on. You ain't like pranking shit. I want to ask you, man. When you think about like the rappers that come up, you know, like take off the one that passed away. Take off. We hadn't got to talk about that last time. To see that happen, I know you being one that filmed them early and I seen you put that video out. How was it that day when they came to see you and just creating that whole vibe with them? That was it. That was dope. I was having a regular day. They pulled up. They was with my partner Mike Ryan. He used to edit my videos and shoot them for me sometime. They were just like I don't want to say to cry for help. But you know, like the normal artists help shit like, we trying to blow up. We trying to do this. Help us do this. I drove to Georgia, I drove to Augusta with them whole time I listened to their music. I just knew them niggas was hard. You knew them out of the gate? Out the gate. I'll tell you about what they were rocking with Gucci at this time? Nobody. They didn't know Gucci. They didn't know QC. They didn't even know them. And they came to you first. How big was that, man? Just two. It was just Claymore in the takeoff. Offset was in jail. They was telling me about them. We got another one, but he in jail. And you knew they were special. Yeah, they banned those songs. Why you didn't try to do nothing with them? I was young. You're at that point. You rapping a little bit yourself. You feel me? They were just niggas to me. But I knew they was hard enough to make it. I wasn't looking at it like that. I need to sign them niggas. Do you think now when you think back when you think back just jumping on it earlier because you jumped on it do you think you jumped on the signing part a little later then you would have hoped? Hell no, OG. I come from Mama Gutter. Mama Gutter say this shit happen when it happen. God always on time, man. We going off right now. We ain't worried about all them old messes in the States. Bobby would say no, man. He probably meant to be. So much weird shit happen. He felt how shit would have been. Let me talk about Boosi before y'all get off here, man. Being around Boosi and just the whole vibe I've been around him. He's radical when I talk. That's how he spur up whatever he's doing. And I do too. So it's cool. Everybody's spurting up. When you just who you are. Boosi kind of entertainer though. He do that shit really more for camera type. When you around him, he kind of just a real gangster. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, we got the switch though. Where you at? Where you at, Boosi? He just a gangster. He ain't going to be out all at all. He going to be straight again. He ain't going to be out all at all. We work out a show, right? I know about de-clothes. I've been around him too long. He had just started his clothing brand when we was talking. I'm about to, you know, that's the history of the store because I just know when you deal with apparel you got to bring it, man. It's a lot of money involved. People don't realize that. To keep a real brand in different stores all across the United States and other countries is not a game. You got to have deep pockets to do that too. I just realized it. We got to buy all this shit. Shit. Goddamn. That's the way it be, man. Niggas don't like co-sign me no more. Especially young niggas. Young niggas got the new hot brand. He dropped it all off right. I'm like, we're just going to do it on co-sign me. He said, cool, cool, cool. He was about to walk out. He said, what's that? I said, aw, shit. I'm going to get my shit. I'm going to come back home. Yeah, I'm going to be back. Niggas ain't trying to hear that shit. That's real. How is this store going, though, so far? You started the podcast, too, right? You ain't pushing it like that. I don't know what to call it, though, G. I like it because you're just doing something. Yeah, you been filming the music. I've been telling niggas, just call it that. That's the hot thing to call it. The mic drops. I see that a lot. You got to call it, the podcast. I got to be saying y'all out, I like what y'all be doing. What you mean? I'm just going places? Yeah, like how y'all just go live and shit. You be everywhere. I don't ever be thinking like that, man. We trying to get into it. We trying. I know you probably be like, come on, let's go live. No, but that's the bad part of it because that's the only time you think about going live because you think about, number one, your safety. You don't want to be sitting at a certain location going live. That's not what I mean. You got to think about even when you're live. Yeah. That's what I'm doing. Most females is not thinking like that. No, we don't do that. We don't do that. I got to make up something. Y'all don't want to go to the block. That one got to go to the block. But even when you're in a car filming you got to make sure that you're not being seen. You know, when you're driving past it can see what's store outside or whatever. People be looking at everything. You got to make sure that it's right there. All of that sort of stuff. Because we know we're going to bust if a nigga's being there. But the bad thing about being in a car is you have all these drop zones and the internet might not be all that great and all of that. I want to have my life. No, that's right. I'm going to be real with you. This is a new world for us too. This thing happened in a couple of years. Sometimes taking niggas forever, you know that. When we put this thing together we didn't know we were going to move this fast but didn't thank God for partners like Gutter who are going to check on me. I can call them. I'm checking in with Gutter. Man, what's up? I'm going over here. This is what you got to build. Right people around you. What? People don't know how to pull up. Did you got a Brewster's? I went wherever he told me to go. I tried to go get them some Brewster's but they were closed. Nah, these closed. That's the thing I can't say about over there is that all your food places closed way too early. That's crazy. Yeah, you don't want to get jacked. I think CJ took us to some of the low place downtown. Hey, y'all. It's back out of it, man. Thank you so much for coming on the show, man. It's going to be... Go on Instagram. You honey, jump man. Tell them about the new tape too. Yeah, new tape. February 3rd, I got a world star. You feel me and Gutter. Never satisfied. Got a lot of good shit on there. Y'all going to have to check us out. And I know Jump Man following Boss Talk 101 already, right? Yeah. No, not ECEO, Boss Talk 101. Say it again. You're following Boss Talk 101. Okay, let me take this straight with all y'all right now. Because a lot of y'all think that y'all feel like you're following Boss Talk 101 because you're following ECEO. It don't work like that. You need to follow Boss Talk podcast 101, okay? Okay, man. Say if you really want to get that shine though. She's going to come back with the ECEO. You really want to get that shine though. Say check it, man. Hey, man, Gutter TV, man. We love you as always, man. Thanks for bringing these guys through, man. So stand up dudes. I know they ready to get out of here because they want to go do their thing. You know, you got a problem. You had it. Damn, never shit. Say it, man. Thank you guys so much. How can people get hold of you? Stop playing. I'm the head of that, you know. I'm the head of that, you know. That's your best bet. That's your best bet. Hit your man and he's going to weave you out. And I'm going to weave you through it. He's going to let me know how to get. Like, Rello, he ain't talking about shit. Man, I'm going to ask you this before we all get off here. Do you ever watch them hip hop homicides that 50 Cent put out? I got paid for them. How do you think those are doing? I'm going to pay to get on one through WeTV. Which one are you going to be on? I'm not on it, none of them. You heard they homicides. He said you're going to be paid to get on one. They use some of my footage. Oh, that's all right. I don't know what episode, but it's coming on. Who on that? He can't tell that now. He ain't signed nothing to say that he can't tell? He can't tell that. He thinking about it. He can't tell that. He can't tell that. We can't talk about that, man. He ain't talking about that shit, man. 50 boys, check it, man. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101 where the bosses talk. Bosses talk.