 Welcome to the zone for our podcast. I'm your host Alfred payback to join as always except for one time or a few times by Like once or twice. Yeah, you missed a few two Before you were the full host before the fire nation attack the fire nation So obviously you guys know Nate So Yeah, you get you see him you can make your own judgments So we're just gonna kind of jump right into this This is gonna revolve mostly around the switch But I wanted to have a little bit of some Zelda inside of it just to kind of you know make cohesive with the website But we got a screenshot of Breath of the Wild today that looks like a shop with a dragon's head on it A lot of people pointed out that that might be beetle in the picture now I Didn't really have no idea what you're talking about. Well, there's a screenshot that was posted I'll put a picture of it up on our on the video version Sorry, if you're listening to this on the audio version But there's a picture that looks like it has a man with a really big backpack on it So it could be a campsite it could be a place that he beetle comes or a shopkeeper comes and brings in some Items like just a traveling salesman over that kind of got me thinking we've talked a lot about Mechanics and races that we want to return But what about characters that we think might return or would we want to return? So just name like one or two characters that you think could work Or you kind of want to see again aside from like the races like the Kokiri and you know Gorons and stuff like that. So I'll throw that to you first Nate Tangle, I know that I know you said like one or two that that's my one Yes, he is one of my favorite characters in the series because I Kind of think he best represents what I wish I could be An adult with that childlike enthusiasm Pursuing your dream no matter what that's really what he's doing And I know, you know, haha. He's a funny character. He's meant to be funny But I mean really I mean he's a 30-year-old guy who will always want to be a fairy and he pursued his dream Even though he can't ever actually be one So maps again, uh, yeah, I mean it's difficult in this game because You the map's gonna be covered by the spirit towers. Yeah, that's right So I think if he was in the game do it any mapping it would be more like Like hint somewhere chest start and stuff Unlocking that ability on your map You know, obviously up completely optional like everything else seems to be in this game But I don't know he's just always been one of my favorite characters and I know that's not a popular opinion in America He is very popular in Japan. He's got two games in Japan. Yeah, three three, but yeah, but And one of them came to Europe none of them came to the United States. No surprise. We don't like tingle here But switch exclusives. Yeah, I guess I've always liked him because he best represents what I wish I mean I've children know stuff now. It's like I can't Be like I couldn't at times be a child, but I I really can't live out You know, I mean I'm saying this as I'm sitting here covering Zelda talking about Zelda and doing this stuff practically for a living So it's like, yeah, I'm kind of living a childhood dream. I'm not really I don't get to act like a child. I have to act like an adult I have to be mature in a lot of situations that I really don't want to be mature and I want to stop my feet and swear and Like I'm ten, but I can't You can't I mean I can but it's just not the right thing to do And I have kids children that I'm trying to set a good role model for so Yeah, like he's one character. I was one always wanted I basically always want every Zelda game in some cookie way Outside of that the happy mass salesman If only because I sincerely hope him coming back Would have some sort of mask related side quest even if it's not transformation mask Even if it's something as simple as all the mass trading you did in Ocarina of time. Yeah Just something like that. I just like that whole again. It's another childlike thing of You know wearing masks like Halloween and all that stuff I don't know it if you can't tell there's kind of a running theme with the two characters on my back And that's weird because most people remember happy mass salesman from Majora's mask is a lot more serious But yeah Let's see. That's what I got I'd like to see okay be five I say five Be I'd like to see her return Just because we're shown in the screenshot like a rusted master sword And we learned in Skyward Sword the late the last game of the series or last Game released in the series first canonically that this master sword is alive We've just never actually seen the spirit of the sword until you know Skyward Sword and it's not really clear why we haven't seen it other than the fact that this was an after an afterthought But I'd like to see her return Just since this has a greater Lean towards story especially since Skyward Sword kind of did this helps a lot more lore and I'd like to see that But I'd also like to see Her explain. I don't know maybe like why she was dormant all this time What happened to just kind of get some more backstory on that? That I think that'd be interesting to to see happen Sure, sure and then kind of along with that I'd like to see demise again and We've kind of seen him in other games like in Twilight Princess, I think it was with the face of Ganondorf that resembled more demise In the backstory But I think was it Twilight Princess or am I thinking of a different game? I don't know. I totally missed your train of thought There was like a backstory being told and there was like this face on fire It was just a face made of fire And it looks like demise, but it was supposed to be Ganondorf, I think It might have been Twilight Princess it might not have been yeah Yeah, you're thinking of Twilight Princess when he's talking to Zant in the Twilight room. Yeah. Okay, so I'm I'm I'm hoping that we get to see him again, although if Skyward Sword had taken place or had been released Let's say on a the Gamecube All of this would be a lot more The payoff would be better having waited so long. I mean it still has been like six seven years since we got a proper Zelda game released on a console but Seeing Demise again would be an interesting way to show like depending on where the sex plays in the timeline like if this is at the Very very end of one of the timelines or the start of another one or mid or halfway Or ties it all together like some theories Have stated I think our own Daniel talked about it being a dragon break theory That we see him like the culmination of all of this Lead right back up to where it started. I think that'd be kind of cool to see two of those characters come back Again, like I you know aside from those I agree with your happy masks I was one of my favorite characters just because he's so weird He exemplifies like that weird kind of creepy aspect of Zelda if we're referring to the Maduro's Mask version as opposed to like the Ocarina of Time version, which you know, he's still great, but I It's funny because it's the same character in both games. So yeah, that's true He just plays more of a role in one game. Yeah than the other So moving on then We Have gotten a lot of switch rumors over the course of wealth eternity so far And it just and we just learned that some Nintendo switch accessories are gonna be revealed at CES this week in Las Vegas so we're getting a Foldable headset which features a 40 millimeter 40 millimeter drivers and then folds up when traveling Nintendo switch starter kit including a carry bag stereo head buds ear buds cleaning cloth screen protector control caps and game cases along with some other stuff for the NES classic condition, but I think that one of the things that is interesting is the fact that this is going to have a Headphone jack from what we can read into this I guess sure It's not like we didn't think there would be but this kind of confirms something that Nintendo hasn't confirmed yet Is that there will be a headphone jack on this that you can plug in your headphones when you take this on the go? Which makes sense? This is their advertising. This is a home console, but it's also a portable console. So take me down the go You'd want to have headphones It's that's just some not necessarily rumors. I think those are actual facts as far as I'm as far as I'm aware These are just things that What was it? Plus it was in the patent. Yeah snake bites, right snake bite the company announced these and they will unveil these at CES this week, which is Gonna be interesting because this is gonna be a week before We see the switch but Speaking of the switch on a snake. Did you have anything to add on to those little tidbits of information? Nope Okay, speaking of the switch. I want to kind of round up some of the rumors From what we've heard recently as we've talked about rumors in the past and we know a little bit more about the console now There's been a ton just like in the last week. Yeah, so I'm gonna go over a few in the net You can you can cover any that I missed so Just kind of these are all random about anywhere, but we there's a rumor going around that a new Pokemon game like a third one in the Sun and moon Area in the Lola region will be announced for the switch My hope is that'll have updated graphics and it'll look better But it's also going to include it's supposed to be 20 new Pokemon that will be added into the game Which would be interesting because they added a lot into the game, but they also relied a lot on the Lola Pokemon So if they do end up adding more and be kind of interesting because they haven't leaked it And typically new Pokemon get leaked really really easily And that's they're either really good at hiding this or this is a completely false And then we something that's not any surprise to anyone is that beyond good and evil 2 is going to be announced this This next week at the at the conference it's still a rumor, but it's a very likely rumor Because we've heard about this for quite a while now the Nintendo has been pushing this game It's going to be an exclusive for the first 12 Months of about a year and then it'll be released on PlayStation 4 PC and Xbox And then the surprise that nobody expected is that mother 3 is supposed to be announced as a title Further either for the switcher for the virtual console not a hundred percent sure on that one Then they'll they'll say that they'll announce that at the conference as well And that would be something that a lot of people have on a very very very very very long time And we nice to get an official translation for that game Then of course we have the Mario Kart more Mario Kart rumors There's a rumor that there will be a pre-order date, which will be January 13th It will happen right after the conference date. So right after the 12th, we'll be able to pre-order this console There'll be Metroid Switch rumors From unseen 64. They've kind of dropped. I don't know if they know anything that they've tweeted out some Information that they're more excited to hear about Metroid either at the conference or at E3 this year And then of course we have smash Mario and then some some people have been tossing around Nintendo VR Like that might be a possibility. So yeah, we'll see I don't necessarily think Nintendo is gonna come right out the bat with the switch and say hey We got VR for this thing. I think they'd be kind of foolish for them without a proof of concept the console itself Anything I missed there or am I? Is that all you got? Yeah, that's all I have on on my list Let me see there is a bunch of stuff from that Obi-Wan guy To the Obi-Wan for those that don't know he's a he's just a youtuber But he apparently has a source that he trusts and in addition that kind of adds some Credibility to him. He did have Laura Kate Dale on for a little bit of an interview And they unveiled a whole bunch of stuff now This first batch that I'll bring up is this is from Laura Kate Dale specifically who has been One of the main leakers for Nintendo switch information Who's so far gotten pretty much most things, right? You know and some things that she brought up in that little interview is that there will be a record button That's kind of a big deal like a PS share. Yeah, kind of the share button thing That Overwatch was apparently discussed to come to the switch, but it required a lot of work. So It's not really something that's being done right now Basically take a lot of fan demand to get it to get it to happen The the voice chats supposed to be announced next week, which is something that the Wii U basically lacked It's weird because the Wii kind of had it. Yeah, I know right. It's just weird. There's no more Fred codes There'll be some form of Bluetooth You have to buy the pro control separately, which I think most people expected Mass effect and drama not will not be on the console There was also an update on this where they said that It would take a lot of fan demand to pull it off and was three on the Wii U Three was on the Wii U. Okay, and that's actually specified as one of the reasons why Andromeda will not be on the switch Because the sales of three on Wii U were really really bad Again, there's obviously a lot of reasons for why that that's the case plus the Wii U itself sold bad The battery life is gonna be three hours. That's not new more of a reconformation of information that we already knew Let me see Joy cons those little side controllers, they'll be available to purchase separately at launch So you get the ones that probably come with the system and you can buy additional ones Which is important because you know if those things break, you don't want to send it to the Nintendo And wait all this time you get new ones I mean you might file your warranty and get some new ones, but you can go on just buy new ones right away Hopefully they're around I'm thinking 20 to 30 bucks for those things Yeah, they have to be I mean the thing is I don't know, you know, do you buy them as a set? Yeah You know, are they're gonna be customizable ones? I got something, you know I'm actually buying as a set because there's like a left and a right one Yeah, and that would make sense to me, but at the same time there's also well I'll get into this maybe later because I know we have a special coming later But so I'll keep that out because this isn't a rumor. This is just me speculating Let me see There isn't going to be more than three Gamecube games in the virtual console at launch However, Gamecube will will have virtual console-ness on the system apparently With with three games at launch The Joy-Con has an IR pointer that are allowed for touch control SD cards can be used the switch The only color available at launch is going to be gray or you know that basically what we've seen a Little black-gray thing also on a note for the SD cards. I think it said 128 gigabytes to 500 gigabytes Yeah, but I may be a little off on that. Yeah, and This is one that people haven't talked about yet the user interface Apparently on the dev side anyways the user interface is very similar to we and we you a little surprising That's the case but but that's not a necessarily a bad thing It's not kind of easy. Yeah kind of depends what they mean by similar Is it the same? You know if it's just like the same stuff because basically I view the Wii U Like the the similarity like the the overall UI. It's like a phone You have like the different apps and stuff and then you have folder you tap it you tap like I think that's okay That could that's fine It's just what they do around that interface. Yeah That's hopefully a lot better than what they did with we and we which it were fine for we but we you didn't really Revolutionize it like it should have done. It basically was a 3ds interface On the console. You just should have been better than that And then that's the tagline for the Wii you're you know, yeah, should have been better than that And then Obi-Wan had his own sources This is where like the big stuff comes from like he said that Nintendo switch is going to have VR It is a thing it is going to be announced and It's not going to be there day one like it's gonna be announced next week, but it's not gonna be there day one It's gonna be something that's gonna come out in 2018 So, you know, whether or not it's something, you know Who knows maybe it's something that I'm pushing at the end of the year for holidays or something But apparently switch VR is a thing it exists devs can play around with it Imagine that like and that's not as far off as that sounds You've got to also consider their history with with the VR and they're mess around with 3d But also that quality of life project. They had a while back. Sure Where a lot of app uses for that. Yeah Well, I can also see like they had a like that that hand thing that you'd attach to your finger Like a blood pressure reader That like measured your like how scared you were again. Yeah Like I could see that being in Like used in VR. I don't know like it's as far off as out out there as it sounds Nintendo has taken a lot of like small steps in completely random areas that could all culminate into the other Yeah, and another big thing This was because he kind of did like this switch miss thing where he had three or three or four videos talking about switch rumors and one of the ones that he put up was that This is the big one. This is the one that no one else he that if this ends up being correct next week like this is This is huge especially for his credibility and that's that Resident Evil 7 is coming to switch day one and that they are currently working on Bringing the VR version of it to the switch But that if they are they don't have he goes into detail about some of the difficulties They're having with the VR version because obviously the switch doesn't have the same powers like a PlayStation 4 pro So like there's there's some technical limitations But it sounds like like they're able to get some of it running So if they do get that full thing running, it would be something that they launched in 2018 Which again would line up with the fact that Nintendo's not going to do anything with VR until then except announce that they're going to have it and then It also ends up with the fact that I believe the PlayStation 4 pro has a one-year exclusivity The VR version of the of Resident Evil 7 but not the version in general Yeah, not not like it. Yeah, no, the Resident Evil 7 is going to be on that platform right away But just the VR version is going to be PlayStation 4 And it launches like later this month. So You know, it's does suck. Oh, it was good in two months later. Yeah, but the switch is now yet. So I mean Two months later isn't really that bad during the console doesn't even exist in the public right now And it's only two months. So like it's not a huge weight So that's that's obviously a big one a big third-party game And I know lower KDL also something like there's going to be at least one brand new IP That's like a big deal When I hear that I think what something like split to and level good is Is seasons of heaven a switch exclusive or is that something that's coming up for the other consoles as well? No, that's a switch exclusive. Yeah, the publishers themselves And I might then maybe that's the new IP Yeah, maybe but like it we already know about it and she just said this like the other day So it's like we already know about seasons of heaven Like there's a whole reveal trailer and a press release Which I'm sure Nintendo isn't happy with Since it sounds like Nintendo might have funded it and we found out from just today there was a company an indie company that They're doing runner three the guys behind runner three that's coming out They announced like a new character and everything and they basically said that the game's coming to switch But they can't say it's coming to switch Like Nintendo has told all indie developers to not talk about their games coming to switch Yeah Basically the fact that like Obviously, we know the seasons game, you know Seasons of heaven got announced and we know the people at image informer been talking to my I think it's more of a They're just saying please don't do it Versus like you can't do it. Yeah, cuz there's been any game. I mean, there's been any developers already said all our games come to ukulele it's coming to switch. Yeah going to we like like so it's one of those things where I think Nintendo wants to save all these indie surprises for the 12th, but they realize They don't control these companies so they can't tell them not to not to hype up their game Oh, I can't not have indies on their console either so they can't be like well If you say something we're not gonna lie you on the console Yeah, and I even think like I think what the seasons of heaven people did was very smart If they had waited for Nintendo to announce it at their thing it could get overshadowed Oh, definitely that was not when they announced it like it was like wait a second This is a real engine for game that looks this good and can run that can't stand up against like for Nintendo fans Like exclusive Nintendo fans that only play Mario and stuff like that that wouldn't get that'd be kind of like at the bravely Default level of being shown off Defaults great and sales, but like Heaven like right now that is the game people look at me like okay That is like the standard right now because it looks like the last Guardian in terms of yeah, and it's crazy because We do know that the footage they showed was on PC So we we don't know how that you know me and maybe that's something we find out at this event Like we finally see like switch footage of it Because it is exclusive to switch so When people have to remember you'll why would they show PC footage? Games are made on computers for starters and that this seems like it's a pretty recent deal that went down So it's not like they weren't making this game the whole time. They just didn't know what platform is gonna be on you So obviously PC is just an easy place to start But also that also speaks to if they can just port it that simply over to switch then you know That speaks volumes for how easy it's gonna be to get. Oh, yeah Like that again, that's why I said this partner with Nvidia is such a good thing for Nintendo They are very in sync with the PC crowd and being able to easily transport games for PC to switch is gonna be like a big a Big boost for this console because it right now It's not easy to transport PC games over to PlayStation 4 and Xbox one despite the x86 architecture because of some unique Features they have like the ES ram Yeah, you know Xbox one it's more like they have to make the games for consoles and then port it over to PC and PC gamers hate that Yeah, because they end up getting you know unoptimized versions of the game that Runs like garbage on hardware to destroy is what what PlayStation 4 and Xbox Yeah, don't remind me about that. Yeah, so like I I think this bodes well For that kind of thing like bringing PC kind of games over and you know if this thing has touchscreen and capability Which all indications of what it does, you know, you can start thinking about games like even you know Real-time strategy games and like stuff. That's usually exclusive to PC could theoretically work on the switch like a civ 5 or Yeah, yeah, like that kind of that kind of game with a touchscreen You know using a pen like you could that could work that was I think that was one of the bigger missed Opportunities on the Wii you was not having like a civ game on there Well, I think that it's because of the Now I can say it's because of the touchscreen, but that touchscreen was terrible I know but I mean like you think that would have been like the proof of not necessarily the proof of concept for the Touchscreen onto the TV, but it would have been a very good idea But also we the console probably couldn't have handled running a civ game Unless it was scaled down Sure, so sure new and being cool that probably would have you know the new start the new art style I think in civ 6 I think they could run that in full resolution easily Switch and I'm not saying that as like a slight on it's a beautiful art style. It's just they've kind of the whole time They've kind of using like a kind of cartoonish take on reality And now they've like taken that a step more towards the cartoonish side of things which I think benefits the game And so six reviewed really really well And I would love to be like out someday like Nintendo has been close to Sega You know, maybe get a total war game over on the switch. That would be awesome Because that's like one of the best series Sega still has going right now and it's PC exclusive. Yeah But yeah, I don't know so like there's a lot of rumors out there I'm sure I'm even forgetting some Because I'm actually still working on like a giant rumor report for Nintendo Prime and I'm Bit sick for like the last week. So I'm a little I'm apparently a little bit more up-to-date than you But I know there's more out there. I just read everything yet. Yeah Which maybe that's a good thing because next week is like the big deal like yeah This podcast is the last one you were here before the event happens So I don't record right after that hopefully and yeah get that up as soon as possible It's gonna be and if it's crazy indeed the pre-orders are out the 13th I might have to delay this and go pre-order Yeah, I plan to be a game stop the like when it opens Make sure I get my pre-order on the 13th because it won't be open, you know at midnight or whenever the thing's done I'm not I'm not going online man doing it Online orders forget that I've never been wronged by an in-person order. So So moving on then we'll go into some fan topics and then our special little thing at the very end We have we have three fan topics. So The first one's a little long so it's from Jesse playlock all these are from Facebook This one says talk about the relationship between all the links some are related to each other like a green of time link at Twilight Princess link others appear to have no connection to the hero of legend like when wakeer link Do you think they all share any kind of connection since the mice cursed link in Zelda so that his hatred would always follow them Doesn't that mean that it follows links bloodline and does that mean that all links are actually related? No, it does not mean all links are related I think it meant I'll go ahead. Well, if you read the words closely and then you go check out like Hyrule Astoria It what it what it basically means is that the spirit of the hero? Will always reincarnate in some way Like the one regular link is clearly not blood related at all Because it happens on a timeline where there is no that that links gone And at the beginning of the game if you pay attention He's technically not even considered the chosen one He kind of has to earn the triforce of courage. It's not defaulted to him What like where it is with most of the links whether they're aware of it or not? He has to prove himself and which is one reason why I like the windbreaker so much like that That link is a very interesting link to me because one of my first editorials on yeah, it's just one of those links that you know Though one of the few links that has to prove himself Worthy of being that hero and he's not always just been the hero Yeah So, you know that that and that's kind of the way I look at it as it's more so the spirit of the hero Always lives on it always rises up when it's needed And and then it just happened to look the same like that's not like you know, it's like oh well They're all namely. Yeah, that's more of a a Development thing And advertising, you know click they they can name of anything it doesn't matter. It's the spirit of the here Toby beat. Oh, yeah I mean could be yeah, so like to me. It's like no, it doesn't mean they're all blood related It just means they all have a legendary You know spirit of the hero like a kind of like an over residing Like almost like a goddesses are always watching over the land yeah And like they know when a hero is needed and all of those heroes are connected with the same kind of spirit The very first hero had which right now we know the first year up to be you know, Link But you know, there's stuff to happen before scourge sword. So who really knows it, you know kind of think of it this way too when when he talks about Hating like the the generations after them and his hatred living on That's also more of a curse on not just link and Zelda, but on the Hylians that come after So just the land never even in peace very long. Yeah, I kind of view it like that as it wasn't necessarily towards The thems like them specifically but more as like a curse on the future generations Past Zelda and past link of course it was on them But he wasn't like seeing into the future being like oh, there's always gonna be as other than there's always gonna be a link The only one that I think is always a continuation is Zelda Yeah, I think well because of Adventure of link, right? They talk about that. Yeah. Yeah Like it just feels like I mean even just logically, you know It's royalty. That's always having things at at some point They tried to explain why they always named the daughter Zelda. It's a really weird explanation I don't even want to get into it because I think it's just a bunch of BS But yeah, it's kind of one of those where it's the royal family. The royal family's been around since at least coward sword You know as Zelda and her dad kind of being the start of the whole thing So it's kind of where I just think that's just how they do that There's always a daughter and it's always named Zelda and they just keep the royal bloodline going and going and going You know Ganon he's persistent. It's the same. There's not multiple Ganons the multiple Ganon doors. It's the same character. Yeah Who you know because of I think mostly because of of the Triforce of power He's able to you know live as long as he does And lived through all these thousands of years of all this stuff happening. Oh and nobody nobody necessarily ever kills And they just seal him away. Yeah, and you know, he's also it's also interesting because he and and Zelda Both possess magical abilities That link does not yeah Like they just have magic within them and like doesn't have magic with him He he could channel magic through items, you know, like the ocarina of time you know to channel the power music or Or You know even dens fire dense fire, you know, like but it's all external items that are already magical so it's kind of It's kind of interesting how link himself Doesn't really have that raw ability to use magic outside of Zelda 2 But anyways because the other two people can but but I think there's just something about that Triforce of power And maybe has to do with the whole Gerudo tribe thing, you know, maybe they just happen to live a hell of a long time Because we really don't know it's not like we see the Gerudo tribe in every game all over the place Yeah, so we really see them in what their what their life expectancy is We've only seen them in two games and in those two games. They were in two distinct different worlds Yeah, so I mean we we know they existed at some point in Twilight Princess, but they were all gone at that point At least that we know of yeah, yeah, it's just a crazy Crazy situation, so I you know, it's a very good time to bring up I just think if you do the research and you read the Hyrule of Storia and you pay closer attention to what is said in Skyward Sword But you kind of learn that it's not a continual bloodline feeling. It's a reincarnation of the spirit of that first hero And that that's kind of that that's more so the continuation. I think of the Triforce of courage. Yeah More so I think I think the curse and everything surrounding has has it has to do with the Triforce of courage continually moving on to the next hero Versus like dying like when link dies, that's the end the Triforce of courage is gone Like that also makes the characters more like that links not really in a depth character But it makes him a little bit more interesting as opposed to him being oh well My father's name was Lincoln he defeated Ganondorf and now I'm Lincoln I defeat Ganondorf And right my son will do the same. It's all it's it's someone different and that's a little bit Especially like in the case of Wind Waker where it's a completely separate link that has no relation to any of them except for the tradition on the island But it's it's you know, it's it's kind of the same thing of them Not being related And it makes them interesting like I said so Alexander Zravko says do you think Nintendo should add even more stealth mechanics in future main Zelda games? This is tough It is because then you start to get away from Zelda's mechanics and core mechanics And Zelda's never really been like a stealth game like that's stealth elements like in Wind Waker you have the fortress in Skyward Sword Skyward sword Everywhere in Skyward. Yeah, and then even in Majora's Mask when you have to go into the Gerudo fortress There's stealth But it's it's never really been a huge aspect. It's more along the lines of something that you With the existing mechanics that are already in the game You can also stealth not these mechanics are in the game so that you can still Kind of the Wind Waker is completely forced Yeah, no completely forced I'm thinking more about Majora's Mask I'm thinking like what do you say that I think of that's what they seem to be doing in Breath of the Wild Like in the last gameplay video they showed Bill Trenin tried to go head-on and the and Nate Bildorf or whatever went around So like you can stealth but that's not the only way to approach the world And I think that's more more what I want to see them do I don't want to see stealth forced like it was in the Wind Waker You know with the forsaken fortress or forced like it was in Skyward Sword like with the trials and even there was a whole section I remember earlier or later in the game that like it's in the overworld You're traveling to a dungeon But you have to stealth around this entire camp because you lose your sword You lose your shields or whatever and like they gave you these excuses and like I understand You know they had these this whole stealth concept and I'm not saying it's bad that I didn't enjoy it But it felt extremely forced like okay, so I don't know much how did the game But but don't I have like a zillion other ways to kill these things? like Okay, and in Breath of the Wild since you could pick up enemy items so freely I don't think they're ever gonna force you to have to stealth But they might encourage you to by making it extremely difficult if you don't still well might be along the lines of in Final Fantasy 15 There's a boss or an overworld boss. That's way way too difficult for you at your current like Power level or with the items that you have still thing around them might be the best option Or you know run head-on into the fight, but it's not like You're trying to get into a level or into a dungeon and there's a giant enemy right in front of you That's way too powerful for you, but you have to figure out a way around them Whereas like you said it I don't like it when it's forced I just keep thinking like whenever I hear the word stealth being put in a Zelda game I think people want it to be more like Assassin's Creed Yeah, yeah, and I don't really like that like dishonored. Yeah, and those games are great But they're but sell does not dishonor it. It's not Assassin's Creed and it doesn't need to be It's it's the same thing like, you know the Witcher 3 you can kind of stealth in that game, but it's not a stealth game it's more of a like a Secondary mechanic that you can kind of use and in zelda's very much Like that and I don't necessarily again. I don't want to see it have Like Again this the stupid saddle mechanic like in Wind Waker Because it doesn't need sure I don't think it needs it I think if it sticks with it's with what it's doing right now with the different approaches and With a little noise meter at the bottom show you how much noise you're making so you can be quieter I think that's all you really need. Yeah, I like stealth more is like it's an optional thing You can do it. You don't have to do it So yeah, like even I think stealth, you know, we've run out some other games that involve stuff like even in Assassin's Creed It's one of my breath of the wild that are worth the wilds more like Assassin's Creed than anything else You could stealth or you can just go head on just try to destroy everything as opposed to like dishonored where it's a very bad idea to go Yeah, yeah, oh, I mean you can do it in dishonored But you're gonna get a really really bad ending to the game or you'll die multiple times or you just die a ton as you Can't you know take on that many enemies at once or whatever but in I like what they're doing breath of the wilds like I guess there are people who like the stealth I personally am not a fan of stealth In Zelda, you know, I think games that are more focused around it are better like the thief franchise That's I mean you're a thief. You're supposed to be stealthy. It makes sense So I think You know unless they come up with a really really amazing concept that absolutely has to be stealth I think I'd rather prefer what we've seen so far with breath of the wild And not what we saw with like the wind waker first guy was sort of at the side. Yeah, and the thing is I love the silent realms, but like Doesn't mean I want more of it Like just leave it where it was what one idea then. Yeah, basically Yeah Gaffer and Kelly says opinion on being able to dress link versus the normal system of changing tunics I Don't know. I've thought about this actually Whether or not I like it and I don't know if I'm fully gonna have an opinion on it until I play the game Because I I've never Not that link isn't iconic in his costume because he is he said it's a very iconic costume But I've never really Considered having the option to change clothing And so I don't know if that's gonna affect Even my view of the game or my view of the character or how I play the game any at all It's it might it actually feels more natural to be able to change clothes in The game now, especially with where we are in RPGs where you know Armor adding armor changing Shoes or pants or shirts Increases your defense or attack I Think stuff like that's more natural now So I think it's a good idea. But like I said, I'm not a hundred percent sure on where I stand on it until I play the game But you play the game Nate, so so give me some I love it It makes me never want to go back to the tunic system again, and that's weird because like that has been One of the very few consistent staples from day one You know, it's all You know, it's always been the tunic system whether you know even when you get like the ring the ring upgrade You know and you get the white tunic and like the original edge result Like this has just always been what it is And it's why so be even so many people are upset that like we haven't seen a green tunic or anything You know and whether or not it's in the game and make this big deal out of it It's because of how iconic that system is how iconic the green tunic is and It's kind of one of those things in Breath of the Wild. It's almost I Know it's kind of punny but a breath of fresh air And how they're handling the the whole inventory system including the clothing because I think if they Went back to the tunic system and eliminated the way they do clothing in Breath of Wild now It's gonna clash with how the rest of the game works It's like okay, so everything else is customizable but your clothing because why tradition? And I think that's really what this becomes is it's tradition versus gameplay advancement And you know, yeah, they've had tunics for different gameplay mechanics But that's all very obvious stuff like oh you were a blue tunic when you're in the water You wear a red tunic when you're in fire Well, do things need to be so obvious? I don't think they need to not anymore not in 2017 that we're in now so I Guess my opinion, you know having experienced it having seen how it affects the world having that the idea You could just take all your clothes off and try to beat the game naked Or you know, I guess in your knickers or skinny or whatever you want to call it your underwear Knickers or skippies. I mean in reality. He probably would be naked, but they got to keep the rating down Yeah, you know like if this was the witcher you totally would be naked, but then link link can get the master short But he's already got a master sword a wink wink So I like what they are doing But again, I've also played and I've experienced it and I've seen how it affects gameplay And I think it's really like a holy positive thing, but I think even the naysayers against it Once they experience how it works and how good it makes the game are going to be okay with it Yeah, but again, you know It is gonna be strange like seeing this game being advertised the link learned a blue shirt. It's really weird Really weird not something we usually wasn't in No, I'm thinking for win wake or some of the advertisements had him in the blue shirt though, too the pajamas Box art was still yeah in the box art was still that but we don't know what the final box art for a while looks like either though Well, yeah, but we do know that the amiibo look like and there's no pre-tunic. That's true It's very clearly that they're putting the blue shirt front and center is like that is their advertisement get up for him You know in a lot of the footage we see from Nintendo like that's what he's in. That's not what he has to be in We already know that it's all customizable, but that is like the go-to like there's obviously some meaning behind that particular shirt But yeah, so I guess I'm plus it's my favorite color And I'm not saying like blue like yeah, okay I like blue that color of blue on that shirt is my favorite color So like well, I might have a little bias towards wanting to stay that way It's it's like a Mega Man Only part of Mega Man blue because Mega Man blue is like blue He's blue and he's got like little accents on his armor that I like that color. Yeah So, yeah That's that's all all about that and Mega Man and in blink naked having a master sword So like we did with e3 in that arm cannon You And we just got rated our okay, our podcast is actually rated explicit on itunes Yeah, we can say whatever we want. Well, there's an occasional So just like the two we did to this time. Oh my god, so just like we did with e3 Was it e3 or was it this I Don't remember because like we did a biting special and we just kind of stopped because we're waiting for the result of the loser which From what you told me before we recorded this podcast will possibly be public before this podcast comes out. Yeah, maybe Maybe after depends on my editing for this one. This will be easy though. It's just us and my video works Yeah So just like we did for you. I think I was e3 We had a bedding special. This was more predictions though, especially since we don't have anyone to help us with this but Came up. I came up with eight beforehand and Nate said he's just gonna come up with him on the spot eight predictions eight predictions that we have that are gonna be announced at E3 at the January 12th conference for the switch Okay But yeah, that's that I came up with a Nate's gonna give give me eight I guess whenever he comes up with them and Just go like you do one then I do one. Yeah. Yeah, okay, so I'll start us off I think only one or two of these is based on our rumor. I doubt any of them are actually I Don't think I like I researched Only one of them. That's because I had to get some information on what year it was so my first one is That Nintendo is going to announce an HD remake for a non Zelda game from the GameCube So we already heard the rumor that they're gonna have three GameCube games on the virtual console But I'm thinking that we're gonna see some sort of HD remake of a GameCube game Because as great as the Wii games were a lot of people still really like GameCube games And the only ones that have really gotten HD remakes have been Zelda games So I I think we're due for one whether it's the games at all Yeah Remade or Zelda games We we might get I doubt we're gonna get a Super Mario Sunshine remake They'd be amazing, but they're probably gonna really want to push whatever new Mario game that's coming out So if they do you have a Mario remake or Super Mario Sunshine. That reminds me. I don't know I'm getting away from the betting special moment. I believe Warcade Dale leaked the code name for the rabbit and Luigi Yeah, I have it in Mario game I forgot what it was. I totally forgot what the code name was. It was like Rabbid something Kingdom. Yeah And Grant Kirk hope is you in the music for the guy that is Banjo Banjo-Kazoo Anyways, we'll get back to the bet because it's I don't know. It's just part of my heck as you mentioned Mario But yeah, so I think that there's gonna be a GameCube HD remake at least one announced on the 12th I know it is better right there because Everything's pointing to GameCube virtual console, which gives them no reason to remake it. Well, everything's pointing to them putting When you games ported to the switch too, so This this was a bit risky for me I guess this one was more of like I'm really really hoping they do it and so if I say it Kind of like the the Joel Osteen way of getting things done. I'm speaking They want the last Guardian to happen every single year Finally dead. Yeah, of course that again to be fair that game had been announced at one point Ten years ago it technically existed Or at least it was known to have existed. Yeah Whereas this is more of a you don't really know what's happening. You just want it to yep All right, give me your give me your first one man on the fly here Oh, that was a pretty bold one. I guess I can answer it with a with another bold one Maybe it may be a personal desire of mine. I I Feel like they are Going to announce a Try to write down as I go here. Yeah, so I can keep track of it. I can hear the typing They're going to announce a I'm gonna say three total third-party exclusive games For the switch three three at most at least three For the first two years of the system so going to announce like and obviously two of them two of them we Are rumored out there. Obviously you have the beyond good and evil, too So they're going to announce at least three third-party exclusive. I Almost want to cut out the rabbit and Mario one because that's a co Come a game. Yeah, so like I'm not talking about like that or like a hard waters, too I mean like actual third-party games. So are we talking about games? Not any triple a are we talking about triple a games that have not been announced yet? So like beyond good evil two doesn't count or there hasn't been announced yet for a switch That's true. Like we don't actually know if it's happening for switch. That's true So anything that's a triple a third-party game. I know it's exclusive for switch For the first two years of its life, I think we'll get three of those or more Okay, I think it's only going to be three, but I don't want to put the or more in there So I don't oh man. They announced five. I guess I'm screwed I already think it's pretty bull. I mean to me if we get even more than beyond good and evil, too I'd be surprised, but like I that's what I want I want that those those big triple a exclusives. So Okay I'm like That would be a safer bet. We'll see my second one is That a proper Pikmin 4 will be announced Um, we already know that we're getting the one for the 3ds. Whatever that Pikmin one is Avengers or something We technically know a Pikmin game exists Yeah, supposedly Miyamoto has said that the the Pikmin 4 is really close to being done. He said that a few months ago Yeah, um, and so hopeful my hope is that they're going to announce it Yeah, that feels like a really safe bet Um, because we already know like like you said Miyamoto basically said the game's almost done. Yeah Um, I can see that my notes in it now release in it like fall or something then again They said that about Breath of the Wild several times Uh, I don't remember them ever saying it's almost done. No, but they did say that they would be out at this date Yeah, but that's different than almost done. That's when you're like a year out from it coming out Like that's way different than Miyamoto being like it would basically happen before done But like we use sucks, so we're not doing it. That's true Um, so yeah, mine mine is Pikmin 4 will be announced So you went with with a Nintendo game? I suppose I'll respond with one um They are Going to announce but not show So think like smash bros like when the Wii U is was announced That they are working on a Metroid game for the switch They're not going to give any hints at the dev team Um, or any, you know, they're just going to say that they are Dedicated to the Metroid fan base and that with some time within the next two to three years There will be a new Metroid game and they started early development So announced but not show a new Metroid game. Yeah. Basically, that's what they do with smash bros Yeah, they said it's going to come it's coming to Wii U and 3ds So if they show it, then you're then you're in trouble. Then I'm screwed. Yes. They show it then I mean, I'm happy if they do But yeah, no, I'm hoping for a new Metroid game Metroid pride game and that that's way less Less likely than the yours. That's okay. I figure I went a little I went a little too I kept thinking I'm like, you know, how many third third party exclusive games are Rumored right now. I don't even know so well, it's like that's that's a weird Comparison to say that it's more like we're more likely to get a Pikmin 4 game than to get another Metroid game Well, like we know Pikmin like the thing is no, I know before has been talked about Metroid But I mean like I mean talking about that in general using those words because Metroid has been one of the flagships for Nintendo for a long time up until recently to say that Pikmin 4 is more likely than Metroid That's just a weird weird thought in my head Pikmin's easier like cheaper to make so that's true Um, it's gonna be another just dance. Oh wait, we don't know that I just want every year Uh, I like just dance but my number three Um, this one was a little hard to like put into words So I'm just gonna read it like I have it and then just kind of explain it Um, so I'm thinking Nintendo's gonna open the video like they did with one of the e3's a while back with like A special video at the beginning. Um, I think it was like two years ago They had the star fox one where they were all different star fox puppets The year before that they were puppets that I think they worked with unseen 64 on or mega 64. Yeah, that was at the clay claymation Yeah, yeah, um the robot chicken one. I feel like they're gonna do something like that something memorable Of course, I could be wrong that could just walk out on stage and be like or start off with a sizzle reel, but I think that they're gonna do something like this um just to I don't know to to get Like show that they're still Nintendo. They still like having fun Um, and that they have ideas Um, and especially since if they do end up announcing mother three Uh for this for the switch That I feel like they're gonna do the same thing like that guy walks like the guy yells from the audience Um, give us mother three and he's like okay or something. I don't know Um, but I imagine them doing something kind of funny or silly at the the intro for the video Um It's funny you said that because I um My bet basically the exact opposite So this is probably one that's gonna get us either one of us a point no matter what Um, I don't think they're gonna do anything like that Uh, my bet is that they are Uh, that that zaniness was kind of a cork of the awada era Yeah, um, he is no longer You know alive. He's no longer with us. No longer running the company Uh, as sad as that all is kiva shima doesn't seem like the kind of guy is all into that stuff Uh, and if you think about them to the switch reveal Uh, that was not quirky. That was not zany. That was serious to the point Um, and I think they're gonna maintain that in order to not screw up the marketing message for the system Because remember that that's all this everything that's happened in the 12th. That's all this is it's just the switch um So As I said, it's switch mess At least as far as we know next thing, you know, the mac half of it wasn't 3ds for some reason That just nintendo does whatever they want. So they couldn't I mean, I would love I love those animations and the puppets like I thought it was great uh, but again Awada era and maybe trying to cater to north america Um, especially not so much the puppets even though, you know, yeah, you know Sesame Street not stuff. Well, no, I I'd imagine more of like Like the mega 64 collaboration that was that was definitely an american Yeah, and so was the um robot chicken thing. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so I could that's why I could see that is because that's something that appeals I think it's gonna open. Um I don't really think it's gonna open the scissor reel per se. I like I'm not gonna show a bunch of games I think it's just gonna open up Like uh, like nintendo's old e3 press conferences did Someone's gonna come out on stage like like to open up, you know, like there'll be some music and then like They'll have like, you know, maybe even a catchphrase like welcome to the switch or whatever and kind of like this is all in japan Yeah, um, and as far as we know, it's a live event not pre-recorded so Uh, you know, how they're handling that across the whole world. I have no idea um Because like me I fully expected to be reggie on stage, but like this is in japan It's not gonna be reggie. It's gonna be kimashima or it's gonna be me a moto or something Um, so I think it's gonna be more like a traditional Uh, you know, they come on on stage and he pulls like, you know, kind of like awana back in the day He pulls a switch out of his pocket. So like my bet is that it's going to be a traditional opening of Of music, uh, maybe throwing up, you know the switch on the on a big screen And then it's going to start with uh, not even a sizzle reel. It's just going to start with Someone uh ahead at nintendo going into Just opening up like I like I said a traditional e3 opening I guess is what I what I feel is gonna happen. Okay And it's gonna be weird as I said, this is in japan, but so it's broadcasted world. I don't know how I'm actually really curious on nintendo is going to pull this off. Yeah Maybe it'll be subbed Well, it's going to be subbed, but it's just It's going to be weird But I'm excited anyways So my number four is that nintendo is going to re-emphasize the companies that have committed to making games for the switch um, so like either we'll see more or we'll see, uh Not not that we're going to see another chart, but they might list off some companies they might say but fez that has committed to Um making a game for the switch or we're going to see skyrim Yeah, I think more. Oh, yeah, I'm sorry. This is your bet. So you go Yeah, and like we're going to see we're we're going to hear them talk about These other companies that are third-party companies That either are are committed to bringing games to the switch or are already bringing games to the switch So I guess more long lines have committed to because those are two different things So, you know, we'll hear about atlas. I think they're having a press conference for a new game that they're coming out with anyways um, and then You know, but there's the If I wanted to blizzard Um, just just example release a game on pc. So no, I yeah um So I I'm just imagining something something similar to that So so the bet specifically is that they're going to They're going to talk about the companies that have committed to working on the switch Um and making games for it Like make a big deal out of it Um, I don't know if they'll make a big deal about it, but they'll mention it at some point Um, not like in the I guess I have to be specific with this. So I'm gonna be like because this is like a free Of course they're gonna talk about third-party games. Um, no, like they're gonna specifically at some point mention either they're gonna say um Major companies have committed to making games for the switch Or these major companies have committed to making games for the switch um And they could show a sizzle reel for games that these companies have made Um that aren't really necessarily gonna be on the switch, but I'm just imagining in some way shape or form they're gonna say x x x x x x x x all these companies Are committed to making games for the switch whether they show that chart off again or not Um, okay, so this may or may not be a freebie You might have to give me one because I don't know if any of these are actually gonna be realistic So, um, okay, that's fine My bet and I know there's some rumors behind this, but I'm gonna I'm gonna make this bet anyways because I Can't I'm digging through my memory bank, and I can't remember a time Nintendo ever did it So it would be to me really shocking if they did but I'm betting that they're going to do it During the event they are going to announce the specs of the Nintendo switch And I don't just mean like oh, it's a 5.5 inch touchscreen I mean like the actual guts like what how fast that's CPU is how fast that GPU is like they're gonna throw up You know whether it's a spec sheet whether you know, yeah, you know, I'll say they do it in the event not you know Because if it's not an event it's gonna be in a press release. I feel like from Nvidia Yeah, but like I think Nintendo is gonna want to make make publicly known that this thing is capable of x y and z Rather than just saying yeah, it's easy to port games But like not ever let people know how powerful it is to see if it's even realistic to poor games. Yeah So I feel like For the first time I think in Nintendo's history They'll actually announce like this is a core or whatever a 57 processor and this is a you know Custom Pascal GPU with X amount of megahertz or whatever Like even if it's just a single slide, you know that they show up whatever it'll have these Shown or said or revealed during the event. Okay, which again, I Probably not gonna happen. It's gonna be a press release, but still I Come on Nintendo this is what get gamers excited that are like thinking about third-party games on the go Anyways, throw it out there. Yeah My number five and I know that it's been a while Not like too long, but it's been a while I think that there they since this was the last thing a water really had a hand in before he passed That they're gonna honor him some way with this Either with saying that this was his last project with us or in memory of a water But I feel like it's some some way they're going to acknowledge Him and and say in memory of him because this was his last Nintendo this is something that he came up with the concept for And you know, he had the name for the annex that still nobody knows what it meant So I feel like it'd be right to do it and I feel like they're gonna do it Yeah, and actually that's the one thing that might do one of my old rumors off is that they're going to do it I could feel like they might open the show with it. Yeah And that would really Throw it to because like if you remember there was that old reddit rumor that The water had like recorded Like a message about the switch Yeah past and obviously that didn't happen at the reveal based on how they handle the reveal would have felt weird if they put it And yeah, but it would be something at like this event where they could show like a clip from that You know where he says, you know, you know We're a lot of just is a lot and does what he does and it says I hope you enjoy playing with this Yeah, you know just just whatever clips that could take if that recording never happened Yeah, like I could see them opening the show kind of something that which would screw my bet But it is what it is Yeah, that's something I really want to happen. That's a very good bet whether or not they do it I have no idea. Maybe they just want to focus on the future, but It isn't Japan where he was revered so Let's see this is number five, right? Yeah, um, I All right, this is gonna be I'm gonna get in trouble with this one Because this number is gonna be really high Or it's not gonna be as high as I hope but Nintendo will show off at least Or show off or announce I'll throw that in there at least 45 games for the switch. Oh And see this is where they're not exclusive just games on the switch at all and This is where I'm really hoping for some scissor rules And indy scissor real would really like that could be 20 of the games right there So like I'm really hoping they throw a scissor reel or something in there if they don't Like it's probably 15 to 20 and I'm screwed But yeah, that's what I'm going with That's why I want to happen because I As I know sounds like a lot, but you have to remember this includes indie games And there's a lot more indie games coming out a lot more often than triple-a games. So, yeah I'm hoping they do it kind of a big indie, you know, heck, you know Technically you could argue, you know VC games and stuff. So like I'm I'm I'm really hoping like any game they possibly show up. It's gonna run in this thing counts. So okay, I'm hoping No, it's thinking about this. This is watch watch Mother 3 be like number 39 This isn't like a bet, but I think it'd be cool if they did like some games that are already out and Kind of like they like they re-release shovel night with all the DLC or binding of Isaac rebirth after birth and after birth plus Yeah, and have like the definitive editions of those games and still be Provide support for him later on because they they just released Finding of Isaac and just released axiom verge for the Wii U So it wouldn't make sense to not have them on there. So, you know, you probably already got like three or four games out of the Indies right there Yeah, like that's I'm just really like there's a lot of ways to get to this number You know, whether or not Nintendo choose us to do that I have no idea like those rumors of things only half hour long. That really puts a wrench in my plans It's just a it's just a half hour sizzle reel. Yeah, like I'm like if that happens. I'm in trouble I'm hoping it's an hour long is my home, but We'll see. Yeah, that's what I'm sticking up internet It's a high risk because I think they're gonna show a lot of games whether they're gonna show that many I don't know but I'm hoping crossing my fingers man Come through for me Nintendo Okay Number six for me is I think we're gonna see more of that Sonic game not Sonic mania But the new one that they teased at that Sonic 2017 or whatever. Yeah. Yeah with with Sonic and then generation Sonic That's what I'm gonna call him because it's it looks like as multiple generations of Sonic. Yeah That's that's I think we're gonna see more of that just because of Nintendo's history with Sega and they're like partnership Kind of that they've had recently Even though it is a multi console game But we have heard that it's gonna be it was said that it was gonna be on the NX So hopefully we'll see it on there. I think we're gonna see it I don't know if they'll because Sega's never been one to do like press conferences specifically for their games Yeah, so I imagine that this game could just be announced here. So we've got the new Sonic game Here's the trailer for it and then just dive straight into that But I think we're gonna see some former fashion of this this new Sonic game Like either gameplay or cinematic trailer not just the passing mention though. Yeah, not like oh, it's coming Yeah, we're gonna see something from the game. Yeah, like a 30 second clip or something. Yeah, show something Yeah, something more at least than what we've already seen. Yeah, they show that same little club against me like really Cool cool cool cool Um, so that's what I'm struggling with Um, I think That I'm I'm kind of going against the grain here because there are things pointing to this But I think nintendo is not going to talk about vr At the event What if they say We will not have vr. Is that considered talking about it? No That's that's a comfort. I don't know why they would even say that. Okay, but um Yeah, they like there's gonna be no vr announcement. Um, that doesn't mean the system won't ever have vr It just isn't gonna be talked about at this specific one Like especially I always feel like especially if it is going to be a thing and it's coming a year from now That's it seems like an e3 announcement to me. Yeah, I agree. Like I I think that's a pretty reasonable one But like if it happens like I mean that's good. Like I I don't like vr. So Um, I don't you probably listened to the last episode nintendo prime podcast, but like I Ripped into vr pretty hard. Um, so then I'm here before too though Yeah, like I'm just not a fan of vr. Anyways, but this isn't me back being anti vr This is me being like well if all the rumors are saying it's not ready Then well, don't even talk about it right now. It's that far off Yeah, and this is kind of the thing I just criticized nintendo for doing with zelda Like don't talk about things when it's so far away that everything could change Yeah, like they did with the quality of like devices exactly like they actually brought that on stage like oh my god This is a real thing. It exists. It's coming soon. I never came out. It's like never happened My hope and my bet is that they are just going to avoid the whole vr mess Um, and if it does get covered, it's it's another day. It's not well and that would make sense Like we don't want this to have spider-man 3 syndrome where they introduce too many things Into the content like into the video and then we never really see Spend too much time on one thing and so we jump from the next to the next to the next Um, and I think that they want this to focus specifically on the switch And if it has vr support, they'll say we'll talk about this at E3 Um, but I I agree. I don't think they're gonna talk about vr here At least I hope they don't because then we're gonna miss out on switch stuff Uh Number seven Whether it's in honor of curvy's 25th or If it's just because I think we're gonna see a new curvy game Um Like a 3d modeled curvy game whether that's something like curvy's a ride models to where Um, remember the the game that was announced for game cure announced not announced, but it was shown off Um, it wasn't might have been e3 um, a long long long time ago where you had, uh, curvy We're using the curvy's air ride modeling Um going through like levels of sword curvy or broom curvy or whatever. Um, I think we're gonna see Not necessarily that exact game, but something like uh I don't know curvy return to dreamland or just some some form of a curvy game My hope is for something like what I talked about using Something similar to those models like a I mean, I'd love to see curvy's air ride in the hd remake It's one of my favorite games of all time. Um, but I think we're going to see a new curvy game. I think it's going to be in a 3d modeled whether it's like a um You can move in all dimensions or if it's just a side scroller that doesn't matter, but we're going to see a new a new curvy game Um, yeah, that's that's my prediction. Got it Uh Didn't decide if I want to go safe Or if I want to get risky See that curvy that feels a little risky Like that was like oh 25th coming up, but then they've also been releasing curvy games recently Um, so it's not like the series has been forgotten like say a metro It maybe has well, but a lot of those curvy games use the same uh engine Yeah, that's true. Like uh robobot used the same engine as uh, um Whatever the other one must I don't remember whatever the other one was. I think All right Therefore you are This is a massive stretch um, I think That nintendo is Going to announce Hold on. Let me make sure There's like three things on debate between like what's the best one to actually put a real bet down on rise at the tomb raider switch You sewed him dismissive of that idea No, like I like rise of the tomb raider. No, it's just too it's too late. Yeah, I know That that just feels like we use syndrome Like if re7 comes like that's great, but like that's two months later. Not like years later Um ah man This is such a tough one for me pick one. I know right right right pick one Oh, man, you've got two more left. You got one more left after this I know right like oh, this is a problem making up on the fly. I don't have anything ready So like I'm trying I'm literally making this on the fly like I'm trying to think ahead and I I can't think ahead um How about this how about this and this is this is another one um spec related, but uh pretty specific Uh, and probably going to be completely wrong. Uh, the system while it is docked Uh, based on the number crunching is going to show that it runs at least at one teraflops And the thing is if we don't get the specs or we don't get enough information to determine that I lose the bet so Yeah, it's a very easy bet to lose because it requires that Nintendo gives enough information to determine that So basically if I get my one bet right I might get this bet right or it'll prove that it doesn't run that good This is not about i'm very confident Yeah, this is more of a i'm really hoping like please be at least one teraflops when you're done That's how I kind of feel about some of the other ones that I had earlier like one and Three Just please happen okay my last one Is This is kind of based off of a rumor. Um, but more of a hope of mine I still haven't finished this game. Um, I think Nintendo will announce a remastered version of Xenoblade Chronicles X Um Not not a straight up port But a remaster to where things are done better to showcase how Um, the switch runs a game and how it runs an open world game like that Um, and I think that announcing it here Would be the best idea Um, and I think it would be great if it was a launch game as well um Because we're still here in conflicting reports on whether or not Breath of the Wild is going to be a launch game But if it's not and Xenoblade Chronicles X is You've got your giant open world game right there. Um, to last you until Breath of the Wild And I think that that'd be a perfect way to To start off the life of the consoles with a remastered version Um, and there's there's just a few things. Okay, there's a few things that you need to fix. Okay, the faces for one Please Please fix the faces This was gonna come with a rant I'm just I love the game. Okay. It's a great game. I just haven't gotten around to finishing it. Um, but like The faces show no emotion It's kind of like the same thing with pokemon sun and moon where the character's always happy or always stern looking No matter what's going on You run you run through cars in town like they don't exist Yeah, it's it's just there's a lot of like they spend a lot of time on the look of the environment and the gameplay which is great Um, it's just like there's specific little things like texturings on people That just they need to be fixed because they look kind of sloppy um and Like maybe maybe just I know this is gonna happen. This is just a pipe dream but like Have your character say things more than yes and no Please like this is an rpg game And he needs to talk or she needs to talk I know they they're not going to do that because they'd have to call in every other voice actor Um, that they had call in like charming late have to come in Um, bricepap and rick that all have to come back in and and read voice lines Um, which right now there's no indication that they're doing it. Um But like there's just a few things that I want fixed. Maybe you could add new content I don't think the game really needs it But that's what I wanted out of a remastered scene was like chronicles x and that's what i'm hoping is That's my last one So I had two really good bets that just came to my mind Uh But I want to win So i'm going to go with the one that I think is most likely And I it is that I believe that Whatever game retro studios is working on will be announced at this event Don't know what it is. Don't know if new yp. Maybe it's the metro game Maybe I ended up with a twofer there. No, you get a one because you said they'll they'll talk about it I don't wait. Do you mean announced or just showed announced so not showed So whatever game like it can be showed like okay, like i'm not like not just like it's just In some form or fashion we're going to hear about whatever game they're making Okay, yeah, it's like, you know, if they announce it with the trailer, it's still an announcement You know, yeah, so whatever game retro studios is working on Yeah, whatever game they're working on we're gonna find out what it is. Okay um And again, that's always well because everyone thinks that we're retro studios and then they just never find out Yeah, but uh that that Want to hear what my other bet was going to be what? Uh, it was going to be that they were Going to announce that there would be at least six wii games remastered and within the first year That's a pretty safe one too though Now I six in the first year like yeah, they got smashed, you know, uh, Mario Kart's what to and but like guaranteeing that there's going to be three more xenoblade chronicles, which is pretty likely Maybe or they're working on something totally new at monolith because remember they were helping with breath of the wild No, I know they were but I remember hearing a lot of rumors talking about xenoblade chronicles x being poured over to the switch Um, but but we don't know that that means a remastered part. That's true Um, maybe like a remaster like you saw what they're doing to splatoon. Like I was yeah Totally upgraded. Maybe we'll see a remastered Bandit or wonderful one on one like I don't know, you know compliant. I'm remaster one of those games could Um, you know, I mean, I'm hoping you're wrong, but I'm hoping you're right. Yeah, it's kind of like Yeah, I don't know But anyways, that's not one of my bets like that was what I was gonna go because I honestly don't actually think that's that's safe a bet in the first year. I think Mario Kart's platoon And smash is probably it in the first year for remastered games. Yeah Um, like they might have worn 2018 but again, that's 2018. Yeah Things I don't think I think the goal here is to not make the switch feel like it's just A wii port machine Um So they want to spread out. I mean for the unsuspecting public, they won't know what any of these games are So they never played a wii you like I pray I pray that they at least port all the hd's all the games they made over Like uh, I don't have to hold like so into my princess like I don't have to hold on to a wii you To play. I hope they don't port it over. I hope I can play those games on the switch Well, yeah, but I have physical copies so that I know I know that's what I'm saying like There's some backwards compatibility or something. I don't want to buy those games. I don't know how How you put in a disc in that thing, man? I don't know I mean, I guess Depending on what they do with their account system. Maybe there's a way you can convert it to a digital copy or something Isn't it? I think it's uh, sony though, or sony Microsoft that has the like you have the game registered at some point or like there's history of you playing it You can download it on xbox one Um, so if they do something like that that'd be fine Yeah, but you still have to own a license for it So like what they do with the disc after it's installed is you still have to put the disc in because it checks the license key Yeah, yeah, that's right So like that license keys still cost 60 bucks just like a brand new game does scan the you the code in the back It's Yeah, so it yeah, I don't know anyways anyways, I I I straight away from that bet because I Part I don't know if part of me doesn't want it to happen or part of me It's just like there's no way Nintendo's announcing six we remasters like It might end up with six, but They're not announcing them all right here. Like that just if to me that almost feels like too much with you um Well, they need to fork us more in the future not the past and you know If they announce the marty card and smash that also means that we don't have any switch exclusive marty card smash for quite some time Well that we know of that we know because we know that well like what I imagine them doing in that case Is having these games ready at launch and then around E3 announcing the ones that are going to be coming out in the holiday Um, and saying well, we've had the senior staff just kind of tweaking these games for the switch Um, and they've talked about having the more younger staff members work on newer games So maybe they have like so here's f zero x mario card Yeah, something like that and it's like an idle game like tokyo mirage. They call racing is back I think it's all those good. We're good. So yeah um Ah, Dave congressing. I miss flying airplanes Yeah, you can do that. I think that's all of our bets. Yeah, that's eight So we will come up with uh, what I have to do because I'm probably gonna lose this one next week Oh my gosh Yeah, I'm not feeling too confident about this. Is this turned into more of a wish? Yeah, I feel like uh, I don't want to say what what I'm thinking of for your punishment because I still haven't been paid off for the last one Which I I think it was E3 and I'm pretty sure I got lucky. I remember that like That was because the callity when yeah, it's because I gave you a tip. I didn't feel like it didn't feel like a true win This one might feel like a true victory, but like I don't really want to say anything until I know the last bets Yeah Because last time I was like if only I hadn't given you one I don't remember what it was But I was like and I'll give it to you and then it ended up being I was off by one I lost by one because of that one Yeah, that's just the way it is. Um, yeah That that's why I was like are you sure like I've left that totally up to you because like I You know me. I kind of knew what was coming out Yeah, because I obviously looked at you know, I'm I was going over the results like I already knew what they were I didn't know if I won to be fair I didn't add up the points because I wanted I wanted to be as surprised as you were if I pulled it off Yeah, um, but yeah, so I didn't actually know how important that point was going to be But I knew like I knew I had a couple wins coming up. I just didn't know if it was enough Ended up being enough. So, uh, but yeah anyways Uh, yeah, so I guess uh next week when we find out, uh, who won and who lost I guess will be when we Go over what uh, what the punishment is Yeah, that'll be let me next week. They'll probably be right after the podcast or right after the show Yeah, when is that it man? It's gonna be a slam next week because like I have there's the show and all the coverage from it Um, I'm doing like a live free show at Nintendo prime, which by the uh, I'll throw up Uh, maybe some links so you can check that out. I think we're gonna shoot it on twitch I'm not sure if we're doing on facebook Anyways, I'm me and Eric will be doing a live free show in a live reaction And then uh, I have the zeldin forward podcast and I'm sure an instant zi reacts to whatever breath of the wild craziness goes on Um, so I got all of that to record and then way late at night at like midnight Recording like or even past midnight because I have no idea how late this stuff's going. It might be at like 5 a.m Um, I have to record the nintendo prime podcast So it's gonna be Oh, it's gonna be do we know what time the the conference starts Ah, yes Man, maybe that's good to reiterate for the viewers. Let me double let me double check Um You have something else to talk about while I look that up um I mean, I'll probably be live tweeting the conference. I'm I'm my plan is I want to start trying to do something different Um, whether that be live streaming Uh stuff on facebook or twitch or whatever Um, and if you guys would be interested in like a live q&a Uh where we kind of do fan topics or you just ask us questions. Um, please let us know if you're interested It's gonna be late um, it is Uh, they're dropping the details January 12th at 8 p.m. Pacific So nine o'clock for us Yeah, it'll be 10 o'clock 10 I thought we were an hour. I'm I'm central time. Yeah, so am I Pacific is two hours. Oh So we'll be recording So it'll be midnight Yeah, or so because like I'll have to make sure is all the former and total prime's cover just wrapped up before I can start So it'll probably be midnight. It's gonna it's gonna be a late night. Yeah, it is long night And I have to drive up to oklahoma the next day. So yeah, we'll be You might actually be the one editing that video. Yeah, I had a feeling that's okay. Well, that's okay because I have uh I made sure I cleared out those two days Like so I'm doing nothing but because I got a ton of primes to just like That's fine. I'll I'll edit the next one. But yeah, so that so again, you know, check us out You know, check me out, you know, live reacting to it for Nintendo Prime Check out the results of this betting show next week. It's gonna be awesome. Hope you enjoyed the podcast See you at a weird time next week A weird time. Hopefully on time on friday. Yeah, we hope we'll see we'll see catch you guys later