 It's Monday I guess back from the derby just in time for a schedule release week in the NFL aka the team social media squad Hunger Games the NBA is wild right now Kenny Smith of TNT action joins us to break down Joker versus Ishpia and get a set for all tonight's action as well I might go to a game. I'm very excited and DV Darius Butler here to talk Lamar Jackson 6,000, okay And first up and winning for stopping for stopping for stopping winning the F1 Miami Grand Prix Yeah, who could have saw that coming? Very polarizing. He is very like do we like him? Do we not like him? Are we booing him? Are we excited to see a man? But he got see I got I got two thumbs down over there two thumbs down for first up in the kids 25 I feel we should be a little nicer. Is it a team sport? That's the question. I don't have an answer to There's teams, but it's still individual so he's boxing guys out and throwing bows Figuratively, I don't is it a bad thing a little ish little Joker Ishpia action We got a lot to get to we were a well-rounded sport show at this point in the game here in mid-May And what a weekend it was at the 149th Kentucky Derby Thank you so much to Fandle for sending us and let us be the goof troop running around there But congrats to mage and to jockey Javier Costellano. He won his first Kentucky Derby in his 16th try It was so fun Marissa was there our team had it covered here in LA and over there in Kentucky And I just thought you know, you know, we had a good time on Sunday. We had a great time up We saw each other. Yeah, we were goofy and then I don't really I don't really know what the rest of your weekend was I want to hear a couple of Marissa's highlights. Oh, man Okay, one of my favorite points was our Friday show We had to split up because we were canvassing the entire grounds. I got I got the Bobby Flay duty and In that duty, I had to literally muddle this blackberry Mixture together blackberry juice. You didn't have blackberry juice you decide I'm gonna take like a plastic spork and make it for him, right? I did what I had to do We we got groceries in Walmart me and Hamilton. We were doing it I was muddling these blackberries in 90 degree heat had to take off my pink suit I thought you were doing it like a barefoot like you're a nap of I have style pretty much Yeah, and he walks over. He's scary. He's a little scary. I kind of felt like I was on top chef Like I was worried he was gonna, you know, be like you're not doing that, right? Why'd you get a plastic fork? What are you doing with these mixtures? But he just peered over and was like, let me help you kid and I was like, no, no, you don't have to You have a picture of any of this? I think we did one fortunately I would love to see they're telling me there's a picture. Oh, I guess we don't have one Well, it's me and Bobby Flay, and I'm going like this and Bobby is Taking over the duty as he should because me as his as his sous chef was not a I think you like to shine a lot. He was awesome. Okay. What else? What else? That was a good that was a good segment though And he makes a mean blackberry mint julep is so good so good and then Saturday night after Saturday night, we did We did all the social media on the red carpet and then once the derby was over went to Jack Carlos party Yeah, you met up with me. Which is never a good idea. I know we were having a little fun And then I left you and I said my work here is done go with go with the Lord And I wanted you to come to this party, but we went to this party and it was so much fun. Jack Harlow performed Look at us just hanging Who took this photo Rob Lopez, of course he Yeah, he was he was my photo for the day. I was so happy. It's just me and Jack Just hanging just catching up being old friends. Let's think about who we saw so we saw on the red carpet Then you saw Mark Ingram and came Jordan. I did not see them. Yeah, didn't get to meet up with them Who else did we see that was we saw Peyton Manning? Yep? We saw here look at this fit check from Mark. Look at this like light pink with the lace Back on the show. I know we need him. He was so happy to see us on the red carpet though He was he was missing us. Yeah, I think I like I still think Rapoli is my favorite person that I met that whole week Oh my god, I mean his attitude is like he's so charismatic. I wanted him to win so badly Do we go to the pretense in the Belmont? I think we have to do we wait? What's the next one? The pretense of the Belmont, I don't even know which one's the next one. The pretense is next. Yeah It's made somehow wins the preakness Yeah, do we then have to go to the Belmont to see the crown happens or do we just hit all of them and say we are now I say we hit all we are now first facing people because I can't keep up because I'm an old mini Who's like I can't I at some point can't handle this But my big takeaway was an eye on Saturday, which seems like it was Sunday When I started feeling a little man like I'm done with this like I've been here a long time I've been you know, you know, you know drinking all the drink and all the drink having the best time ever I thought about Patrick Mahomes. What an inspiration. He is I read to him on Friday Yeah, I said I said wow you guys are you guys are crushing it listen the night before this That's a picture on the left of him and his beautiful wife Brittany Lynn and they were at the Barnes-Table Barnes Party God knows what they went after that on Friday night and where they told me we're going to the Grand Prix I said, you know what so they were really motivating to me. Yeah, I was losing my you know, my Wind or whatever. Yeah on Saturday. I was like Patrick Mahomes is somewhere taking this in if Mahomes We're watching you can sit there at the Derby. Yeah duties at the Derby He had to speak on the microphone in front of 16 million viewers at home Yeah, he did that and then he went to the Grand Prix in that outfit and had the time of his life So he was on some fratice Kelsey ish. I was so impressed and also Taylor Rooks Let's let's talk about her like she she was so good at the entire Derby She was doing all the social coverage Yeah went to Jack Harlow's party and that was posting about like international racing day the next day It's all we love it all so spectacular sports week and noticeably missing one Travis Kelsey. I know where was he at? I don't know but that's it If you were to there were odds on who would be at both places. Yeah and causing a ruckus It would have been Travis Kelsey. Okay, so you had fun We had fun our show did great and congrats to mage and everyone over at CD for the warm welcome to our show in its first Horse racing appearance now. Let's get into some NFL. We appreciate you Marissa. Thank you very much And I I very much appreciate your John shirt because your boys won yesterday hardens out of his mind. Okay Let's talk a little we're gonna get to the NBA with Kenny Smith because that Joker thing that happened Like is he facing a suspension likely could be all right. We'll ask him what he thinks But let's get to the NFL We have the schedule release that is on Friday We'll be covering it on our show at the drafts and free agency are over So we got to finalize that schedule and it actually happens Thursday night guys So we'll have it the breakdown for you at the end of this week And so there's teams that have done everything that they can do to fill their needs is off season But there's still some questions. We don't have answers to so I thought we could maybe kick things off today by digging into some Division by division and we're gonna start with the NFCE. So first up. Let's just start with those Cowboys We had a cowboy wearing a filler jersey at the let the at the game I thought that was super weird, but that was happening. Was that a dream that I had or did that actually happen? All right Well here they were really aggressive this off season Micah Parsons included they made big trades They get Brandon cooks they get Stefan Gilmore to give them a serious boost at some school positions making the offensive Corridor change bye-bye Kellen Moore the left-hander to shoddy They said bye to Zeke Elliott. I feel like this wasn't a big enough story Right Jerry hinted that they might still bring him back. So maybe it's that's why it's not such a big story But even with the big swings the boys made the question is this is Mike McCarthy the guy to bring America's team back to Contender status, and I'm gonna say to contender status. We've given McCarthy his credit right last year He became the first Cowboys head coach to make back-to-back playoff appearances since Chan Gailey back in 1998 1999 but as we know the standard in Dallas is different and as we know there's a bug on my desk the good bye Sorry have a good day We know that the the window is shrinking time is of the essence when it comes to Jerry Jones and company this Team is closing in on a year 30 without a trip to even the conference championship game We know the talent the Cowboys the bills the only two teams the NFL to rank in the top five and scoring offense and scoring defense But there's something that is not clicking with the team in this playoff and big-game situations that they find themselves in So Jerry Jones opted to keep McCarthy over Rilling in the big fish and Sean Payton Okay I'm paying him a ton of money to see what they could do and it could be the move that ends up defining this era of Cowboys football and I don't know why it didn't happen I don't know how realistic it really was and you know Maybe sure the offensive coordinator change and some of the talent upgrades are going to jump-start things a little bit But I I don't think I'm crazy in saying that it's now or never for Dallas right at least under Jerry Jones stewardship And with the Eagles sitting in their division and the third type of schedule in the league at their hand Which will be released on Thursday night is not going to be an easy path So that's my question is were you right in keeping McCarthy? Is he the guy to take you there next up? Let's head over to the commanders and take a look at Washington. So here's my question for this team Did the commanders pull a heist by snagging quarterback Sam Howell in the fifth round last season Man, does Twitter love themselves Sam Howell? Wow, I want to interview I have to understand what he's all about because I was shot They're obsessed with Sam Howell and I think it's clear Ron Rivera and companies seem to think he is the guy They get rid of wence. They leave Taylor Heineke. I thought was the crowd and team favorite They let him go and then they have every opportunity to try to grab someone else whether it was Derek Carr They could have been involved in making an offer to Lamar They weren't they could have traded up for a quarterback in the draft or you know You're seeing will levy slide and he fell into their lap at 16 and they said no They decide to pass on every one of those options and instead they bring in Jacobi percent a veteran shirt Super Bowl Champion caliber guy who knows what it's about to back him up. So this Ron Rivera regime is entering year four They're still looking for a winning season new ownership is here There's not much time to get this thing turned around so For this franchise to put all of their chips in Behind Sam Howell is a huge statement and I don't think enough people are discussing that so Howell He's an unknown at this level, but there is a lot to like look at week 18. Okay. This is his start last year He picked apart the Cowboys This is a great footage. This is convincing. He leads the commanders to convincing 26 to 6 win He throws for a touchdown. He runs for another one. It wasn't the the cleanest performance So it shouldn't have been in the arm talents the mobility popped off the screen there, which we love I Don't know he must have done this every practice. He must have had this kind of a showing and this kind of a game To have it looking like it's going to be Sam Howell. So that's my question for the Commanders okay in Sam Howell by the way a fifth round pick And we'll see you had a great sophomore season at North Carolina And he was supposed to be the top top quarterback off the board and a bunch of drafts, but then he had this weird season So we'll have to see what's next. All right, let's get into the next team here. Let's go to New York Okay, let's go to New York Daniel Jones Gets his extension Seyquan gets the tag the question for me is Have the Giants done enough around Daniel Jones to take that leap into contention in the NFC Joe Shane enters this season Masterfleet but sort of hamstrung right still trying to work his way out of some bad contracts that were handed out by the previous regime But still managed to make some things happen So despite the Giants twenty two million dollars in dead cap space Thanks in large part to Kenny Galladay and that deal Shane was able to bring in a lot of talent this offseason Look what Daniel Jones will be throwing to this year Okay of the top eight weapons in this passing game right now four were brought in this offseason headland by Darren Waller That trade and third-round speedster Jalen Hyatt out of Tennessee another two sterling shepherd and last year's second rounder Wanda Robinson spent most of last year on IR So if you look at this only I say a Hodgins who by the way joined the team mid-season after he got caught by the Bills and seriously and those are the only guys returning that did get significant reps with DJ last year So it sort of doesn't look like there's a true number one Right Hamilton did say in his breakdown hammer time that he did that Darren Waller is so special But he could be their primary target from the tight end position They might not need a number one wide receiver But this is the makings of an awesome group of receivers on Paper the front office did the best that they could given their hamstrung situation, but we know That it looks good there How is it going to translate yet because Darren Waller is a superstar But we all know the knock is that he struggled with injuries Can he stay on the field same deal a sterling shepherd veteran great guy stay on the field Wanda, Ohio super talented super young players very unproven So that rough playoff loss to the Eagles made it really clear the Giants lacked firepower to contend of these big guys Even in a water down NFC So if this group can stay healthy a player their potential we could see these G men go from this cool Sort of anomaly of a we thought they were rebuilding all of a sudden there in the playoffs like this fun little story into a legitimate threat in the conference and Daniel Jones might make a lot of people feel and look really stupid for hating on his new deal Did I make it through all of the teams cowboys? We didn't do the Eagles. Why not? We don't have any questions for the Eagles. Why cuz we're great. Why don't we have any questions for the Eagles? Did I just mess that up? Oh Oh What do you mean they've got sons they was a Marissa in charge here. They don't have any questions. Are we joking? I got questions for the Eagles. How does not make the show. All right, we'll be back coming up We do have Darius Butler. We're gonna go inside inside the NBA with Kenny Smith. Are the Lakers back to back championship Contenders and go to the game tonight At Bandua Casino, we know nothing beats winning That's why all new customers get a second chance to win choose from hundreds of games and get up to $1,000 back if you're down after your first day love that download the end of the casino today Kenny Smith and Back on up and I was waiting for Kenny Smith to join us. He's an exciting new book that is being released tomorrow I believe it's called talk of champions stories of the I Don't have it stories of the what stories of the people who made me. Thanks guys back there in the control room I think they're trying to get him to log on. We're excited to talk to him about everything that happened yesterday We've got exciting action tonight between the what the Lakers and the Lakers game. So hopefully I get to do that and We also have Darius Butler on the show who missed his parley by one point So we're gonna be his cheer up committee because we've been there and we've done that We're also doing some ask K anything's following the Derby weekend. What do we got? Let's roll him through Marissa read him to me In all the interviews you've done which one stuck with you the most and why oh god That's it. That's a deep one. That's you Maddie. I always think well, I don't know. I don't have one What about this season? Oh, maybe this see you know, I don't I take one Barclay always pops into my head. Yeah for whatever reason He's you know Everything went right for him his whole life And then he got to be NFL and he had some adversity and the way he's just handled it Yeah, when he talks to me and he gets out there be like when he gets candid about it And he he talks about how it was the best thing that ever happened like the best thing it to have or happened to Me was for me to have a setback. Yeah So I could sit back and learn and see what that's like and adjust and like take a minute It sort of reminds me of like just like a personal life like a pandemic sort of did that to me Yeah, a setback that put me out of the hamster wheel. I reset I reassessed What do I really want it ended up being like the best thing of a terrible situation? Yeah, sort of and I just like that About I like those sort of moments or when you just get anything out of an athlete that you don't that you don't get Normally like any sort of Extra insider a different side of themselves. I think Gronk does that well on our show. Yeah, because he's hard I mean, he's like a stout wild stallion. You don't know where he's going You don't know how to steer him But you can get like a really genuine moment when everybody sort of looks at him as his cartoon character like those Yeah, that's sort of like what we tried to do on our show. All right. Let's see is there another one Who or the better and less will address NFL player and celebrities at the derby, okay? Brittany Lynn Mahomes can do no wrong. They are loyalty royalty loyalty I have loyalty to royalty and they look so good and she on Friday. I was wearing this amazing colorful Alex Perry sat and dressed with an insane slit and she's just so she's just so hot I just love her and Patrick looked great, too. I'm like Patrick. Sure, whatever and I never look at the dudes Is that terrible? Okay? You're showing me marking comes up, but I'm like, I always just look at the girlies come Show me the babes. That's all I want to see My outfit for derby day my original outfit was gonna be so cute because it was very high-end High-fashion it wasn't sexy. It was polka dots. Yes, my fitting in my this is because that's what happens at my house And there's a fitting there's clothes everywhere, but those were like really cute Manolo vintage skirt was Valentino I forget what the top was but it was so fun and it was his feather headpiece and it didn't make it It's like literally still in Kentucky somewhere. It's giving Corella Deville chic. It's yeah, but it's giving It's giving but then I didn't have anything and you know, you're like this saying that you're only as good as your backup quarterback You're only as good as your backup dress and I did not thank God you had one I did have one. I was gonna wear it the day before too, but I looked like you know I looked like a shiv Roy Presentation on the micro econ of succession. We have what Friday one? What do we have? Let me see. Oh This is hot. I like this. Oh, yeah, this is the throat. I wear this to the Grammys a couple years ago I'm loving this. I reward dressed. That's right. I never do that And I did that repeater, but I was gonna wear the blue one to this and I'm glad I didn't this would be less of a good derby dress This has been way too way too. I like the updo as well. Yeah updo is looking good sucked in Kenny Smith's a great dresser and he's a great racer to the big board and Does he like Devin Booker has Devin Booker done enough for you? Kenny Smith will have him on the show to talk about his incredible new book talk of champions up next and it's available tomorrow Get it everywhere Kenny. Let's go Very excited about this 20 me now is a two-time NBA champion coach of the Emmy winning inside the NBA And he's here here with a brand new book. It is out tomorrow You can pick it up. It is called talk of champion stories at the people who made me Kenny Smith. Good morning Good morning to you. How are you? I'm so great Not as great as you we have a lot we've a lot to talk about Congrats on the book. We're gonna get into it some of the stories people can expect pick it up to tomorrow Congratulations to you on that, but let's get into a little NBA talk here. Why why a moment? Why a moment last night in the Sun's Nuggets game you got Sun's owner ish. Yeah, you got Nicola Talk me through this play well The only thing that happens to be really be talked to it talked about is that the owner grabbed the ball and he Shouldn't have grabbed it. That's it Okay, so well some are saying the Joker should have been ejected you said last night if it was any other fan But Matt Ishpia, it would not have been a technical foul. Should he will he be suspended for this Kenny? No, he's not gonna be suspended and first of all, I don't even know if the Joker has the awareness to know Yeah, that's the owner of the team. I Honestly, I know his name and I know of him, but I would not have known that that's the owner of the team Yeah So I don't think that it was specifically targeted at him At all, but you know, he's trying to continue to play thinking there's an opportunity Some guys got the ball in his way. She's like get off my back It's pretty funny to be part of that I think it's a great moment for the owner and more than them like suspend Joker for being Proligerant to fans as it's a little extra. He doesn't even have a history He doesn't have a history of anything like that, you know what type of player he is and kind of and we've known Honestly, what type of person he is, but get out the way man I think I think Stan Cronkey next game should be down there and is ready to flop his life out and try to try to help his team Come on, Stan. Yeah, I'll tell you what the Joker has some brothers though It's about the same size as the bro Joker. Yeah, and you'll catch his brothers. They don't play. I don't think so I wouldn't I wouldn't I wouldn't encourage to any continuation of that by anybody in Phoenix. I'll leave it Okay, I like that. I like that now you pick the nuggets to come out of the West. Are you sticking with this pick? Well, I think they're the best basketball team from top to bottom You know, so typically in a seven game series the best team wins. It's not about, you know, the best player It's not about it's the best team. You know, you got to beat someone for a lot of seven times You know, pretty much I'm gonna that means I'm better than you and so yeah I really believe that the nuggets are the best team in the West. Who's that? Who's the guy that needs to step up? I was on a flight back from the Kentucky Derby I was listening in listening to you guys talk about how it can't just be Joker can't just be the second guy It's gotta be the third guy who needs to step up for this nuggets team Well, I think they have when you say third guy, I think they have the ability Don't they're third and fourth guys have the ability to be the first or second guy on certain nights You know, Aaron Gordon and Michael Porter those two guys are just super talented young players You know, I would say Aaron Gordon has a Probably an easier time to baby step up because of this ability to handle the basketball and create space for himself He's probably the guy who could create an opportunity for himself just as easy as anyone else So they just have a plethora of guys that they could Usually just throw at you throw at you where the sun's like no It's KD and Booker and if you're gonna beat us these are two guys you got to be Speaking of Booker Shaq came out last night Kenny and he apologized to Devin for doubting his play Now, I know you want to see that alpha and him you want to see him really be that man that dog in the playoffs Is he getting an apology or just some love from you anytime soon? He never needed apologies for me Devin Booker I never I never even think he could do it well, I think the apology was He couldn't go 20 for 25 again, which is an incredible Percentage and then he came back and backed it up and shot a better percentage the next night and took his just as many shots That's what the apology is for. I mean Devin Booker is one of the unique talents in our game Where he could, you know Score in multiple ways he can catch and shoot which is the ball comes to you just catch it and shoot it Then he could he could take you off the dribble The third thing he could do is he can go from baseline to baseline with the basketball Most guys cannot do all three Especially at the two opposition they usually do two out of the three and sometimes even only one and this guy Is a guy who does all three in a scoring load? He's crazy with his threes He's averaging 36.8 points a game in the playoffs who's playing better ball than Devin Booker right now The only guy is Jimmy Butler is probably playing just as well care, you know, you know playing super well for the Miami Heat You know being unstoppable in key moments, you know, I look at not I don't usually look at the stat sheet I look at the moments when when our team needs a basket Who are we gonna give it to that's what you know And and who's going to stop the other team when they're doing well Who's gonna get a basket to make sure the other team doesn't just run away with this game and Devin Booker and Jimmy Butler Been those two guys throughout the playoffs at an unbelievable rate Now I want to talk about Chris Paul because Chris ball gives everybody their shot But the Suns win two in a row they even up the series their pace of play is very fast Chris does Chris Paul make them better or less good given the pace of play Well, I think Chris Paul is gonna just realize that okay, let's play faster. He's not good Chris Paul is not a guy who says He's not a guy who says I can't do what they're doing So a lot of guys would be would come back and you'd have to change your whole dynamic But with Chris Paul, he's good enough to go. All right. This is the way we need to play I'll do it and and I think before it was more of let me make sure that I get the Guys the ball now. I think you can see I don't even have to do that as much So Chris Paul is a Hall of Famer. He's probably wanted to you know top ten point guards or top five And in the history of basketball, he's gonna figure out how to join that. He's probably happy to play faster Some might say you put the heat in Miami after this weekend Kenny I'm not gonna do you like your your cast mates on on inside the NBA But let's talk about this this heat nicks matchup because you pick the heat to win before the series started Your boy Stephen a Smith put you on blasts and you are betraying the city of New York as a Queens boy here Huge game for tonight in said Miami. Are you gonna switch your pick? How do you feel about this? Want to make some New Yorkers happy right now? First of all, I just caught what you just said For me like I picked when I picked the nicks in the first round I'm not picking on emotion. Yeah, but I said they're gonna get to the second round and then to go into the next Get around I'm not picking on emotion. If I picked on emotion I would pick North Carolina the Houston Rockets in a new Every series that they played in the history of basketball. So no, I Just can't I just thought that you know if I looked at the team and I had to pull out the emotion I said man the Miami Heat has a better team They have you know a go-to guy who's playing at a higher rate and then between Bama to Bayou and and Julius Randall at times could be a standoff But I didn't think as anyone was playing as well as Jimmy Butler could do what he was doing So I have to double down Listen after this weekend, I mean the smile and you're you're glowing No, no, this is good sunshine. It's sunshine everywhere I really I gotta double down, but you think about like you think about what the Miami Heat has done in the last Three weeks that they've been the best team in basketball Forget this just like the East they've been the best team in basketball the last 45 days and They just got hot after they're getting hot at the right time kind of like they did when they got in the bubble They got hot in the right time and they went to the NBA finals Yeah, now I'm headed to my very first Lakers game tonight Kenny I've never been okay, and I've been watching this and I watched game three I don't know how you can even explain how the Lakers dominated the Warriors What do the Warriors need to do to make it different on the road tonight? Well, I'll give you some nice places to go in LA. I'm a LA guy What you expect tonight is all gonna be predicated on on on two letters a That's it they hold they all series it predicated on two letters the thing that amazes me about him It's kind of like if you went to see An usher concert ushers, you know And one night he's hitting every note and you go to very next night And the guy doesn't hit any of the notes. You're like wait a minute. I just saw him last night He was incredible. He's dancing and this tonight He's skating on the thing and he's falling and he's like like you would be like what's going on? Like it's an amazing like how he can go from being Arguably the best player in basketball to just a good little guy Like not saying he's terrible, but just a good little guy and that typically doesn't happen Especially in the same series when you have the same advantage So if I have the advantage on Monday on Wednesday the advantage really doesn't change Then on Friday, I still have the same advantage That's the difference about playing in series because you keep the advantage overall and sometimes if you could get fooled Because a guy could have a great series against one team and you go. He's really this and like no He's not really that he's just he's just bad against them Okay, that's a listen. I'm I work in the NFL so I'm new to the NBA I'm really into it this playoff. So that's actually very helpful. I'll be watching out for Ad just two letters and that whole series tonight I want to ask you what inside the NBA. It's the best show I was part of a studio show for six years and it's it's hard work. You guys are incredible You've won 17 Emmys together on this ensemble cast and I saw that Ernie This isn't new information, but he said, you know last week he reaffirmed that production meetings do not happen You want to keep it genuine? You want to keep it raw if you were to teach a master class on what creates a great Studio ensemble show. What is the thing that you'd focus on the most? Well, first of all, there is produce their production meetings, but they're not for their for the producers Because you know, it started, you know, Ernie it started the first year I got there and And they asked me to come to a production So I was like what it wouldn't my come of you know, what am I coming for and they were like Oh, we just when you know, you can give us the keys to the game. That's what you do And all the things what's gonna happen. I was like, well, I don't know the keys to the game He's like, what do you mean? You don't know the keys in game I don't know the keys to the game until I start watching it and I'm gonna go. That's the key to the game right there And then Tim Kylie who's our producer goes? All right, don't come and from then on None of us have ever come as talent to the production meeting It only set a separate because You know, our job is to analyze what's going on. We don't really have you know, myself Charles or Shaq We're not breaking news about trades. We're not gonna we're not doing in you windows and insights of what's going on We're not following people on beaches like We're we're breaking down the game and we're gonna tell you why you lost Yeah, and the only way to do that is to watch the game at an intense rate And so from there, that's the first formula tech producers prove produce talent be talent You know and then the third part of it is you just got to be blessed to get a mix together sometime like you know You sometimes you just blessed and like you just walk in and like oh, this is the guy That I'm supposed to be sitting next to and you know his opinions I've never Charles has no idea what I'm gonna say before the show. I have no idea what this dude is thinking right now I have no clue. Okay, but Kenny not to listen Can you know you know when those TMZ photos come out? You know, they're gonna bring it up. You know What wasn't me? But you have to listen to your comrade. Yeah, I'm gonna give you the last that last piece. Okay. It's listening We don't have a you get to speak for 15 you get to 15 you get 15 and we go off the air if Charles is saying Yeah tonight Anthony Davis is going to be double and I'm gonna stop him in the middle. Oh, he's not I'm not gonna allow just like I was in a regular conversation with my friends at home I'm gonna we're gonna talk the same exact way and that's the most important part I think of all of it is that I watch shows and someone has some notes Yeah, and we're waiting to get their point across Regardless of the guy says by the way in your ear the the studio's on fire. Let's leave and they're going no I still got to say Yeah, I think there's a lot of producers and people in the corner offices that do not like what you're saying But it's worked and it's proven and it's the best studio show ever I love it, but let's uh, let's get into the book here. You were sharing some personal stories in it I want you to give it the best plug that you can I think we've got the cover art for it. Don't you guys? Let's take a look. It's a new book. It's called taco champion stories of the people who made me tell us what we can expect Well for me when I what when I wrote it first of all it is a tell-all book It's a tell-all, but it's a tell-all about all the great things I learned from great people and I wish I had known this at 20. So I wrote it initially. I was writing it to My kids so they could have this information and then I was like not a world This is like to the world because each chapter is not a chapter. It's named after a person So it's not chapter one chapter two. It's Bill Russell. It's Michael Jordan. It's Shaquille O'Neal It's Kobe Bryant just what I learned from being around greatness and What they think How they compute information? So when you read it, you're gonna I feel when you read it You're gonna feel better about yourself and you're gonna go man That's when I did that. That's when it worked. Wow Now I understand why it works and so that's what I always felt Everyone's always searching with these self-help books, but these are the people who made it I've been around my phone book is pretty good. You know what I mean? I got I got a nice phone book and It's some great people that influenced me from day one, you know that became billionaires not just in basketball through other sports and I mean through other causes of life That became super successful in terms of not even from the financial point of view But from a thought point of view For some reason I was blessed to be around them and at certain points in their life and and their nuggets are so Insightful like it's like it's like a masterclass of champions Yeah, I mean, maybe that's what it is. You're the point of you being around them was to tell these stories I mean, I can't wait to read the entire book But there's you know the first time you were on a bus with the late great Bill Russell like you're saying You talk about what that story was you have personal stories from your career with Kobe Mj. Magic Johnson Dean Smith It goes on and on Shaq of course, you know you and Shaq He kidnapped your son before you even knew him He took my he took my son and I didn't even know it which is the weirdest thing ever Shaq but that but now you know that Shaq. Yeah, but it was no Shaq. He's like, oh, he want to come with me I'm like but Shaq. I don't really know you used to His daughter and my son went to the same school at that time. Got it. It's like he's like, oh, you want to come with me? Sure, but I also not to you know not to be regret, you know miss even like you net great Historical basketball figures, but even like I have friends like, you know, David Kohler Yeah, we'll run the Kohler found the Kohler company the plumbing company, you know a super successful Individual one family, you know, he was my college roommate for some, you know, guy old Siri Runs, you know a huge tech firms and a huge in in terms of music and manage Madonna and sting You know the guy slept on my couch for 45 days Like how does that even happen in your life? But you know one of the biggest guys in music one of the biggest guys in plumbing they both slept on your couch You know what I mean, you know, it's things like that those are part of their My life lessons with these guys as well and just a great great Therapeutic for me, but I really believe like I said when you read this book, you're gonna feel better about yourself. I Love that and then of course there's you depict Shack who you're on inside the NBA with the first couple of days there with him I heard he had a hookah lounge. I heard he had a DJ that's all in the book and it's all very awesome So we're gonna leave you with this game quickly as fast as we can go We're gonna go inside inside the NBA some questions. You got to tell me which co-host best would answer the questions Let's take a look which co-host most likely to get injured in the race to the board Chuck which co-host has made you laugh to the hardest Shaq he's much more slapstick Which co-host watches the least amount of the games you're covering Jack which co-host is the most sensitive Because Shaq has 18,000 businesses and he gets a million calls about everything That's why he can't even stay focused on it. Which co-host was most likely to call TMZ on you this weekend in Miami Ernie Whoo, which co-host is most likely to miss work because there's a zebra on the old freeway Kenny You played for Houston the year before who should before who got that forget before Charles got there Then you went to Orlando right after Shaq left. Which co-host would you rather have played with? Shaq We just had Bobby play on at the Kentucky Derby on the show which co-host are the best chance to beat Bobby play Who's got chef skills? Whoo, I would Know Shaq It may be Chuck only because he thought he would follow you know He has OCD so he would follow the recipe to the perfection in making Which co-host is the crew love the most the what the TV crew Oh, that's me We all know Shaq gives the best gifts who gives the worst No, Shaq doesn't give the best gifts who does that gives the worst gifts because he only gives free stuff stuff that he's in apartheid We've the worst gift and it's always predictable. We're gonna get like Like no one wants I'll sit I'm gonna send you every gift that Shaq Studios to you He's giving you insurance from the general you're like I don't need Exactly Chuck gives the best gift myself and Chuck give the best gift Ernie's got a step it up. Hey, we appreciate you Kenny Smith There's a lot of fun congrats on the book talk of champion stories of the people who made me It's available in big bookstores and for digital download everywhere starting tomorrow. Come back, please. Oh I love to then. I'm sending you all the Shaq skills. Well, I'll take it I need insurance and you whatever he's got great Thank you, good luck, and I will enjoy tonight and I will think of you and I will have to watch inside the NBA after the game We'll be back after the Darius Butler Says huge F1 guy in his Twitter bio Darius Butler. Welcome. How was Miami? Tell me everything I need to know Miami was incredible second time near back to back years It was awesome. They did a great job with hard rock stadium the race went kind of as expected up front with the Red Bulls I was a lot of action behind the race a lot of action off the track a lot of celebrities. It was awesome I'm mad. I missed my boost. I had a super boost One point Jason Tatum, but congratulations are in order for you 15 times You mentioned the off-the-field stuff one point sucks Listen, I've been there and done that but I'm gonna do a parlay for the NBA this week Tell me about the off-the-field experience because you were just casually hanging with the denim the denimed one Jay Leno. Oh Yes, so that was a Thursday Wall Street Journal had an event and now You know talking about a lot of stuff around the sport of F1 Jay Leno was hosting it Got a chance to talk to him off off off stage, but he was awesome I didn't know he was in the 70s still a lot of energy still doing a great job at what he does Met some other people there as well will bucks in one of the main voices of Formula one a lot of great people from Liberty Media It was just an overall great event great networking and you know, I love this actual sport So there's a lot of fun down there Miami. Everyone says they love the vibe the vibe. What is the vibe? You know what the vibe was cool the vibe is cool I would like it to be you know a little more inclusive. It is a very very Expensive ticket, you know Miami does it big when they go to Vegas. I'm sure they'll try to even out do Miami But the vibe was cool a little little bougie. I'm sure right up your alley. Okay, the derby looked awesome But it was also a great experience met some great people from different actually met the Andretti group who's the Andretti Yeah, you know, so they got some big stuff going on the indie they're trying to get in the F1 So it was an awesome time know the vibe the vibes were immaculate Okay, so while you were having a good time and I was having an immaculate vibe time at the Kentucky Derby There was a bit of a NFL news we talked about Lamar We asked we talked about his MVP odds and all of that but over the weekend He started saying something about 6,000 yards. Okay, and yes, they made some additions and all of that Lamar 6,000 yards your thoughts No, maybe combine, you know, maybe passing in rushing I can definitely see that, you know, 48 4800 yard passing with 1200 on the ground of 6,000 is up, but you got a you got a shoot for the stars, right? But you got some great weapons. You got Odell just saw a video of him working out Arizona He looks great once again. Zay flowers one of my favorite receivers in this draft You got one of the best tight end rooms in the league. You got a healthy backfill. Hopefully so Lamar Jackson with a new offensive coordinator top market Hopefully air things out and I can see him going around, you know 4500 and a more past heavy offense who could get six that who will be the first quarterback to get six It's gonna happen. Who will get it my home? I mean, it's gotta be the guy who was everywhere He was at the Kentucky Derby. He was at the Met Gala. He was at Formula one Miami, Patrick Beholds. I mean if there's one guy who can crack that 6,000 yard mark I think it'll be him obviously along with Andy Reed What they've been able to do Travis Kelsey. He can probably be the first 2,000 yard tight end So I think Patrick my home's down there in Kansas City will be the quarterback to pass over 6,000 if it's anybody amazing We got the shows over. We're gonna hit it. We hit the F1. We hit Kentucky Derby We hit NFL NBA. You just heard Kenny Smith What your thoughts on the Ishpia Joker thing because you said I forgot what your take was you said that You jump in there you get in there the flop. I like the flop But I think he came out and said look I don't think Joker anyone should be suspended a fine going forward So you got to respect that from the owner who's also a former walk-on can't go to Michigan State So yeah, let's do a flop. Show me your flop. Show me your Ishpia