 President Joseph Robinette Biden, the second, talked about having a recent conversation with French President Francois Mitterrand, who died in 1996. And then he talked about having a recent conversation with German president or chancellor Helmut Kohl, who died in 2017. Then in the most politically damaging, non-prosecution memo since the good old days of Hillary Clinton and James Comey, special prosecutor Robert Hur declared in a documents mishandling case that Biden would be hard to convict in a courtroom, so he's not going to bring the case, because he's, quote, a sympathetic, well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory, that he, quote, did not remember when he was vice president, and that, quote, he did not remember even within several years when his son Beau died. And there's actually more to that all. This last bit about Beau got Biden so pissed that he held an angry impromptu press conference at the White House where he shook his fist at clouds and confused each of Mexico in perhaps related news. A new ABC News Ipsos poll shows that 86% of Americans think Biden is too old to be president. Is that a lot? It's good to see us pulling together out something. Nick, my question is what's wrong with the other 14% and more seriously, how do you respond to the critique that you will see more and more of from mostly the media, that this is all much ado about nothing, especially when compared to the objectively awful daily excretions from Biden's chief competitor, Donald Trump? Yeah. One, I want to say I'm looking forward to a second Biden term where he tears a page from the mob boss Vinny the Chin Gigante and starts wandering around Washington in a bathrobe in order to scare people or avoid federal trials and things like that. It's obviously a completely legitimate issue. Biden is showing, who knows if he has it, but he's showing clear signs of cognitive decline if he has anything left to give on that count. So it's obviously an issue and it should be. It doesn't mean like being old doesn't mean you can't run a country. Conrad Adnauer who was like a thousand years old when he oversaw the German miracle was fine. He was competent and he actually did a lot of great things and helped create a stable post-war Europe. I remember seeing on Turner Classic movies years ago a newsreel about Conrad Adnauer when he was chancellor of West Germany and everything and he was playing bull or whatever the Germans call it, bocce or bull mat and he could, it was like Mr. Burns on the Simpsons. He could only like drop the ball and even then it didn't really land, but he's good. Trump also has issues, right? He has mental issues and impulse issues that need to be fully discussed. What do you think like when you run to ancient people who are too old for the jobs that they're going for? Yes, it's a totally legitimate issue and the attempt to kind of ban that or to shame people from talking about it is just partisan hackery and anxiety over Trump actually winning a second term, which I don't think he's going to, but it's plausible. But that's all that this is and it should be brushed aside like that and we should be talking about what are Biden's policies. Why is he so unpopular? Biden is as unpopular a president as Trump was and if you go to like Balladpedia or any place that stacks up approval and disapproval ratings at the same time in their presidency, you see something there. The big difference is that under Trump at least up until COVID, which so the poll numbers will start reflecting that if you do side by side, but about 10 percentage points more of Americans thought the country was going in the right direction under Trump if you can believe it, then Biden. Biden has real problems and the mental stuff isn't going to help and it can't be waved away. Peter, you live in D.C. Surely, surely you've heard someone talk about a backup plan. Somewhere, somebody has a backup plan than having a guy who talks to dead people. Okay, so here is how it's going to work is first Taylor Swift is going to win the Super Bowl and then and then they and that's who has the backup plan. I want to be clear. It's they. That's the official name. They are going to install Michelle Obama onto the Democratic ticket and that is the backup plan. That's and it's real. It's absolutely if you just walk. I mean, if I when I'm walking my dog in my neighborhood when I'm taking into the taking my little pup to the dog park and hearing people talk about Twitter at the dog park, which is a real thing that happens in my life, like they are all like, oh, yeah, that's the plan. They have it. Are you kidding? There's no backup plan. No, seriously. There's no backup plan here. There is there is no there and in part there's no backup plan because there's no real process for removing Biden from the ticket at this point with the exception of Biden himself deciding to step down. Now, insiders, people who have influence, he has he has advisors. There are people who are high at high levels in the Democratic Party. They could go to him and say, we think you should step down at the same time. That is a vote of no confidence in the person who is currently the leader of the party. It's a just politically difficult thing to do. Biden himself has said repeatedly. This is not like this is not reporting from the inside of the White House. This is something that Biden has said and is very clear that he believes he is he is unique within the Democratic Party in his ability to beat Donald Trump. And so part of the issue here is that Biden believes he's special. He's the one who can be the only one who can beat Donald Trump and the one who must. And so I think it's it's very it's not impossible for me to imagine him stepping down. Anything could happen. But Biden believes that he has a unique duty to the country and to the party to stay in the race because he is the one who did beat Donald Trump and the one who therefore can beat Donald Trump and no one else can. And I think that that is going to that is going to result in a Biden-Trump race. The horrible, terrible, no good Statler versus Waldorf, two old men race that we have been worrying would happen here for the last couple of years. Emma, you're a you're a youth. And one of the peculiar things about the polling in this election is that the youths are who have been voting for Democrats by well in the excess of two thirds for a while now for presidents. The youths are kind of back and old Trumpy and are disassociating themselves, particularly with Biden's Israel policy. But beyond all that, since you are a youth, what's it like to see like these old men, people who look like not your grandpa, but your great grandpa out there running the country and running for president? Exhausting and a little disheartening, but also I think considering, I don't know, I'm 24, old old men being the political front runners has been the status quo for like, as long as I have had sort of interesting political thoughts, which I is not that long. You're calling Hillary Clinton a man? That's what I think. Okay, old people. You're misgendering her. Yeah, sorry about that. And I think, you know, I was talking with some friends about this over the weekend, and it really increasingly seems like our options are senile and senile, but also wants to be dictator for life. And for me personally, you know, I prefer just senile, but it would be nice if we had someone who was neither senile, nor kind of wants to be president forever. But, you know, the powers that be the sort of political momentum, it really just feels like Biden is staying the Democratic nominee, not because anybody really wants him to be, but because we're just kind of headed down this hill, and it's just kind of the inertia leading us here. And, you know, I don't know how a rematch is going to go, but I'm not very excited about it. Do we think of Trump as senile? I guess I think of him more as deranged. He's a maniac. Yeah, that's probably more accurate. That was a clip from the latest Reason Round table. If you want to see more clips, go here. If you want to see the whole episode, go here. 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