 Should the White House, the Biden administration, get involved? Well, my advice for what it's worth is not to be involved. Basically, the White House does not have not only this White House, but White House in general, don't have great track records in terms of getting involved in labor disputes, unless those labor disputes are so serious that they threaten the economy overall. And you have to go back years to the Truman administration before you see something like that. Now, I would say the Biden White House should stay away from this one. It could be very costly, but both sides know exactly what they are getting into. And they are very, very, very sophisticated in terms of handling a strike and handling labor management relations. On the note that it could be costly for the U.S. economy, couldn't it also be costly for President Biden in the sense that, in general, the American public doesn't have enormous confidence in his handling of the economy? There was a new CNN poll showing that some 60 percent of Americans believe he's actually hurt the economy. Well, Boris, first of all, as a factual matter, the economy is actually in very, very good shape right now. Inflation is way, way down. There is no sign of a recession. This is as close to a Goldilocks economy as I have seen in my many years of providing economic analysis and advice. But beyond that, obviously, if you have a prolonged strike that costs $5 billion or more in just 10 days in terms of not only the workers and manufacturers, but also suppliers and consumers, it could have a negative effect. The political fallout could be negative, obviously, but the economic fallout would be much more serious. Yeah. On the question of perception, though, regarding the U.S. economy, you are right. We've not seen the recession that many had been worried about for several years. But does the White House need to do more to show the work that they've done to enhance the economy and to provide things like the Infrastructure Act or the Inflation Reduction Act when so many believe that President Biden is hurting the economy? Well, I would say, again, the messaging issues are legion, Boris. Every administration is frustrated inevitably because it's not getting its message out. I think the Biden administration could presumably do a much better job. You've got these extraordinary achievements, not only the Chips Act, the Infrastructure Act, the Inflation Reduction Act with huge solar and wind and non-carbon-based initiatives that are going to be very, very helpful in terms of fighting climate change, which we're all suffering from and all dealing with. And at the same time, we've avoided a recession and brought inflation way down. I think there's a lot to cheer about. And so I can't advise the Biden administration obviously on exactly what to say or how to say it. But I do hope that the public pays a great deal of attention over the coming months because we've got an election coming up in 14 months that could be one of the most critical elections in American history. And quickly, Robert, your impressions on what it would take from both sides to prevent a costly strike? Well, look, the B3 automakers in the United States have over the last 10 years they've made a huge amount of money, about $250 billion. And the first six months of this year alone, $21 billion. There's a huge amount of money. And yet workers, auto workers, are still back in 2009, 2010. They've had very, very little by way of a raise. The CEOs of the big three, they're earning about $29, $28, $25 million a year, just the CEOs. We're just talking about the chief executive officers. And they've had a raise of about 40% over the last four years. So if I were a UAW worker, I would be clamoring. I'd say, now is the time. You've been doing so well. Now is the time for a major raise. A lot of benefits that I have foregone for years. I should be getting right now, because why should the CEOs and top executives be doing so well? And the shareholders be doing so well. And everybody else be doing so well. But I, as a worker doing all the work, I'm not doing so well. It's about time I did. That's what the auto workers probably are saying to themselves. Robert Reich, we appreciate the perspective. Thanks for joining us.