 maen nhw'n Gymru, rydyn nhw'n trofod ein bod wedi gweld yn cael ei ffordd o wybod o'r rhain. Ond, Feidwch eich hyn yn ymweld ar y cyntaf. Ac rydyn nhw'n eich bod yn cael ei ffordd neu'r gweld. Rydyn ni'n ffordd o yw, rydyn ni'n rhai, ac mae yw Ysbry UN, rydyn ni'n credu cael ei ffordd unrhyw gwertho a'r ymgymell. Mae'r rhain yn gweld, rydyn ni'n dweud, rydyn ni'n credu. Felly, mae'r rhain yn iawn i gweld yma, mae'r rhain yn iawn i gael? I can everybody see me? Is it all good with everybody? I'm going to keep an eye on the comments, but otherwise I'm hoping that everything is okay and everyone can see. Okay, so I'm Tony Harmon in the UK and the co-founder of One World Birth with my partner who's actually here next week. This is my partner Alex, Alex Waitford, so he's the other co-founder of One World Birth. I don't know if you know anything about me or you know anything about our Facebook group or anything about our website, but I'm going to go through the basics of who we are, and the purpose of this session is we want to talk about having a revolution in birth and making a global revolution in birth. That means everybody, so some dooders, midwives, birth educators, authors, campaigners, everybody's getting together and coming together and saying, okay, first to be better around the world and we can do this. We can join together and make a difference. So I'll go back to the beginning. So my name is Tony Harmon. I'm a documentary filmmaker. I'm not a midwife or I think most of the other speakers, most of the other sessions are midwives and I think they're kind of an exception because I'm a filmmaker. So my story is that I went to the London Film School. I trained making films and I worked as a producer directly in making TV programmes and then I had a baby and when I had my baby it was quite a difficult birth experience. Basically I had a cascade of interventions that led to an emergency C-section and I thought this birth can be better than this and I can use my skills as a filmmaker to try to help other people, have a better birth experience for them. So we started off and made a film called Real Birth Stories which is a 3 DVD box set about people's birth stories. So it's a five-cub with warts and all's birth stories. Then I made a documentary called Doola which is a documentary film following or showing three births in intimate close-up detail. I'm showing what a Doola's are effectively and showing Doola's in action. Okay so now I am making one world birth away. So what it is is over the last 18 months it's a GAN project with being filming the world's leading birth experts. So far we have filmed over 100 of these experts. So we've filmed Inamay Gafkin twice, Sheila Kittinger, Michelle O'Dont, Dr Sarah Buckley, Professor Sue Gall. We've filmed Sheena Byron the other day. We've filmed Leslie Page on her just photo and she was wonderful. We've filmed Professor Sally Tracy, Dennis Walsh, Person of Nesmoberg. So that's what we filmed. We filmed People in America. We filmed Midwives in America in Canada, in France. And most especially I've just got off the plane this evening because I've been in Hungary and I went to film Agnes Skerib in Hungary. But I'm going to come back to that in a little while. OK, so one more birth is our idea is to film interviews with these world leading birth experts. So over 100 midwives of Christian Duller's birth activists campaigners authors. So to get their knowledge on film and to share that knowledge with expectant parents and with other birth professionals because I know that you probably know this but just at the moment all this knowledge is in books. And I know lots of people do these books but actually right now where most information is shared is by social media, by the internet, by YouTube, by Facebook. So we wanted to create content, so usable content. These experts, this evidence based information that is easily shareable across the internet and it's free. That's the idea that this kind of massive global project. So we started releasing clips but we're building this project that becomes this, it's like a conversation. We want these experts to talk to you guys through videos to communicate with you so that all this evidence based information gets shared so that expectant parents are fully informed of all their birth choices. So that's the vision. So we want to use that knowledge, that information, that education to inspire change around the world. So if expectant parents, there's a bubble on the line, I don't know if I'm turning the mic on, okay. So if expectant parents had this information then they might make different birth choices or better birth choices. So that's the kind of vision, is to make birth better by informing everybody. So that's the idea, I can change the slide, hold on a sec. Okay, so our mission statement, we want to use the power of video and social media to get people talking positively about birth. That's a key word, it's all about positive. It's positive information, positive action for positive change. And we want everybody to be, it'll be my dream if everyone right around the world was talking about birth, that it wasn't a tabby subject, it wasn't just about horror stories that people share of their birth. We want people to say, wow, I had a fantastic birth and this is how I had that birth and whether that's a C-section or by natural delivery, a natural birth, all those births should be positive, should be inspiring. And for people to talk about birth, because if people talk about birth then it becomes out of a subject that inspires people and you can talk about how you had a good birth and the physiological things that were done. And it kind of takes away from an obstetric model of care more towards a midwifery model of care which I think is the key. I mean, midwise, you guys, or most of you guys, are the guardians of normal birth. You guys are the ones that can enable women and support women to have a fantastic birth. And at the moment, there's, and you guys know this, that there's kind of systems in place and obstetric systems that are making physiological birth. Not, well, it's possible, obviously, but it's difficult. I mean, I've come to this filming and they're scared, I mean, I'll come to that in a bit. So, okay, so, yeah, okay, women, I say, so Lisa's written women are the guardians of birth. Yes, women are the guardians of birth, but it's midwise are the guardians of normal birth. You're the kind of supporters, but you're the ones that can guide women to have a normal, fantastic, wonderful birth. Okay, so that's my mission statement. So, part of this is to take away the fear, the fear of birth. When you, and part of this fear comes from the internet. When you see if you find out you're pregnant, the first thing you do is you go into Google and you type out, I am pregnant. And aside from the whole load of ads for formula milk, then you're just bombarded with information. And you don't know what information is right, you kind of get shared horror stories, you get shared advertising, you get shared promotional stuff. And we want to cut through that and just provide the kind of home of evidence-based information from the world's leading birth experts. That's what we were about. So, it's kind of cut through the mass of information to provide good evidence-based information. So, yes, that's us. I'm going to turn to the slide. Oh, that's closer to me, by the way, on the slide. That's us in the end of our difficult birth experience on the LGBT section. That's the first time I held my daughter. So, yes. Okay, so, who is in one more birth? Okay, so, these are pictures I just had on my desktop, actually. So, it's not representative, but on the left, you've got Kathy Warwick, who is the General Secretary of the Royal College of Midwives. You've got Sheila Hipsinger, who is author and amazing social anthropologist, Anna Mae Gaskin, amazing, fantastic midwife, Dr Sarah Buckley, down here on the left. Fantastic doctor and just a real inspiration who talks about how birth is an endangered species, natural birth is an endangered species. Professor Fen, I can't say her name. Fen Zhong, I've probably said it, perhaps really bad, but she's a professor in China of midwifery. Michelle O'Dontz. I'm going to turn the page again. Can anyone see Tony? Oh, I hope you guys can see me. Oh, am I not? Oh, is that... So, I can't see myself. I don't know if everything's been moved up a little bit. Okay, so, is there a way that you can move my camera a little bit down? Tony, you haven't got your webcam on, have you? Yay! No, I haven't. Yes? Oh, no. What you need to do is click on my webcam. Yeah, I've got it. No, it wasn't coming, you didn't have it on. Can you see me now? Oh, okay. Can you see me now? Tony, just to see how it goes. Tony, can I just... Can I just hold on, Tony, before you launch in further? Can we just see how this goes? Because we've got a full room. I'm not sure if the room's going to be able to support you using webcam as well. If we're finding that people are... it's interesting with their connection for us to turn you off. Okay, so I'll keep going unless I hear from you, Sarah, that I need to turn myself off. Okay? All right, so who else is in it? So, again, these are just ones grabbed from my desktop. Oh, no, these are photos. So, we've got all of these, all of these people you can read for yourself, plus loads of others. And we've been to various conferences around the world and we've filmed outside of those conferences. And the whole idea is to gather this information to inspire the world, to inspire change. Okay. So, how do you use, as a midwife or as a dooder or as a birth educator, how do you use our stuff? Okay, well, you can go to our website, birth.net. It's a website just one more birth.net. And so we've released, I don't know, probably about 50 different clips. We released them in September, we launched them in September last year. And we kind of did that a test. We saw, okay, how is this going to work? What do people actually want? So we released all these clips. And the feedback we had was really good, but this is really good evidence of information. But what people, the biggest feedback we had is the most useful thing we could do is to create two things. One, which is an archive. An archive of all these people so they get usable, searchable on different subjects and by people. So that's what we're building at the moment. That's what's taken quite a long time to build this. So we've done pretty much all the filming of 100 different people all around the world. Although we still want to come to Australia and New Zealand and we're coming there. I want to go to Japan and I want to go to Brazil too. So it's an archive. So I want to create a video archive where people can search this mass of information, these amazing, evidence-based heroes, really. And from all different areas of birth. Sorry, that's my email going off. So your obstetricians and your midwives and your dealers and your heads of organisations and your professors and your whatever. Okay, so that's one thing. So we're going to create an archive. We're going to release short clips and that's what we've been doing in the release a whole load more. But also, the biggest feedback we have is that people want to see long-form documentaries. They want to see longer films on certain topics. So, and I'm going to come back to this in a minute. So the first film we're making, which is why we're in Hungary, which is why what this kind of big thing we're doing at the moment, sorry, it's not in the mic. Okay, and doctors, yes. We film lots of doctors, obstetricians, families, practice doctors, CPs. We film lots, so it's great. Okay, so apart from doing an archive and long-form documentaries and releasing short-form shareable clips on Facebook and everything else, we're also organising a series of real-life events and campaigns to get people talking about birth. Oh, I'm going to come to that one. I think I've got a slide about what we're actually doing in the live action event. So I'm going to come back to it. Okay, so what have we been doing? So the first film we're making right now is a film about human rights and about what's happening. There's a conference. I don't know if you guys know, but there's a conference. I love that commercial in Robinson. It probably needs a device filter. Yeah, too right. There's a conference at the end of May on May 31 in the Hague in the Lemberton, which is all about the human rights in childbirth conference. And we're going there. And it's all about, I don't know how much you know about this, but Article 8 of the European Convention of Human Rights is all about the right to respect, privacy and family life. And within that, in 2010, I was erauding by the European Court about the case called Tenofe. I can hear myself like that. I can hear myself like that. Echo, echo, echo. Why can't I hear myself? Has someone turned on a microphone? Okay, I'm back on. Okay, so there's a case called Tenofe versus Hungary. And what it meant was that, and it went to the European Court of Human Rights in childbirth in 2010. And the ruling was that women have the right to use where they give birth, which is great, except it's got massive ramifications. It means that within Europe, now that women can invoke the Article 8 of the Human Rights Act and quote, this Tenofe versus Hungary case, I'm not a lawyer, this is what a lawyer, the human rights lawyer told me. So we're interviewing her at the Hague. He's going to explain to me all this and what we have to do. But this massively changed the ballpark massively so that everyone within Europe has the right to decide where they give birth and invoke that right. And the hospital or their care provider has to take positive action when you invoke this Human Rights Convention, this Article 8. But it has ramifications for America because America's constitution is taking leave from the European Convention for Human Rights and also in Australia. Australia has a union, but also could hopefully take it leave from the European Convention of Human Rights. Okay, I'm going to come back to that comment. Anyway, so we are filming at the Hague at the end of May to provide. So we've got, speaking to a lot of people we're interviewing at the Hague, all your human rights lawyers are all the academics on this really technical thing. So basically it's going to change the world. It's going to change the world in terms of our rights, every woman's right to give birth. Is that right about the US? Yes, this is me paraphrasing my discussion with the human rights lawyer about the situation in the US. So I'll be able to give you the interview with the human rights lawyer from the Hague at the end of this month, after we filmed her at the end of this month. So she can clarify exactly what it means to the US. But as far as what she's saying to me is that the US constitution is separate obviously from Europe, but it is pacing its leave when some... But it is pacing its leave when some agencies from the European Convention of Human Rights which was written in 1948 or whatever. Oh, echo, echo. Okay. So. Where was it? Okay, so why were we in Hungary? Okay, so it was a Ternofsky case. Ternofsky versus Hungary. And we filmed Anna Ternofsky this afternoon. We filmed a woman who had changed history for women kinds. Or changed the law to enable women to... If this works, if this kind of legal act which is what they should be and hospitals and care for rights have to act on this act on the Article 8 of the Human... Article 8 of the European Convention for Human Rights as invoked within the Ternofsky versus Hungary case. Anyway, we interviewed her this afternoon. Amazing, amazing, amazing. Okay, and yesterday, two guys recognise this lady. So, we interviewed her yesterday. It's the obstetrician and midwife, Dr Agnes Gerab. Okay, so yes, the US and Cumbria, yes. On the human rights thing, again, I'm going to have to... We're going to film the human rights law talking about the US situation. So I can only clarify that's my understanding, but we're going to have to film her and then we'll give you that information. Okay, so Agnes Gerab, who is an amazing home birth obstetrician and midwife who's done, I think she's done 3,500 home births in Hungary. However, she's been criminalised for practising home birth and it's a terrible, terrible case and a devastating. But her, but her lofty, this human rights person, her home birth was assisted, supported by Agnes. So there's two things. So it's just such an irony that the person who has, who helped the person who is forked for home birth into any changing law around the world, she's now criminalised. But you'll find out more when we release the film about it. So, okay, so yes, this is the human rights conference that we're filming at in The Hague at the end of the month. I don't know if anyone else is going there. Okay. So, okay. So the document you were making, which is really exciting, is all about human rights and what's happening, this cutting edge of law in Europe and hopefully, hopefully, if this takes off with the US and other countries around the world. So it's kind of a, it's a ballpark changer and that's what the film is about. So we're filming in The Hague, we're actually going to do a fundraising campaign next week to, as we need some money to help us get to The Hague and release the film. So anyway, so watch out for that. Anyway, so meanwhile we're also doing a releasing a one world birth dance video. So showing four belly dance moves that anybody can do when they're in labour, which we hope will turn into a viral video. So we're going to release that since when we kind of got the chance when the film's ready. We've filmed loads and loads of people doing these four belly dance moves. It's going to be a fun thing. And just get people talking. So if people watch this video the viral video, hopefully they'll be inspired to dance and encourage their local community to dance. So yes. Okay, so our heroes award we ran these for the first time in December we had, I can't remember how many people were nominated, maybe I think about 100 different people. We had 2,000 folk cast and the winners were Micky Mongan for the kind of world awards so she's the founder of Hitler's Birthday Muster, his belly dance birthday and so she won the national award and it's really taken a back that you kind of set up an award and to celebrate the heroes. And you kind of people get behind it and I think it's, so this year we're going to be an even bigger event and so we want your nominations and just get people talking about birth. Can you talk a little slower? Okay, yeah. I will talk a bit slower. Okay. So what's our master plan? So we're creating all the tools that you need so we're creating short videos long-form documentaries tactical toolkits and marketing stuff and the whole idea is that you guys and thousands of other midwives and doolers and birth educators you can use these tools to get people talking about birth to open up the discussion. What's important is what we've realised is that it's noted of people in the birth world talking about birth we've got to get the mainstream everyone else the rest of the world talking about birth and to make kind of ordinary people, mainstream people non-birth world people to understand that birth is on a nice edge right now we need people to understand the implications of induction, we need people to understand the legal, civil and human rights to choose where, how and with whom they give birth so yes we want our staff to teach the next generation of student midwives absolutely that's the point but it's not just us it's like you guys it's a team effort so we can produce the videos but you guys need to disseminate this information to everybody you know how can you help so you can start talking with non-birth world people about the issues you can hold screenings of our videos you can share our videos you can take part in our dance events or other night events you want to do you can start your own blog or a video blog you can create your own media yourself you can engage people on forums Facebook, Twitter, Google Facebook to join our Twitter I started off on Google class and didn't really kind of crack it really you can notify media of local events you can start, sign and share e-petitions there's an e-petition going right now to grant full clemency to Agnes Grairb so there's so much that everybody can do and it's not enough anymore to sign an e-petition just to tick something and say that I've shared it not enough if we want birth to change and I'm presuming you guys want birth to change then we have to make that change happen there's that kind of bumper sticker in the US and we filmed in the US last year be the change that you want be the change that you want the world to be so it starts with us it starts with the person it starts with you guys it starts with your next door neighbour it starts with anybody who is expectant expectant and it's kind of to be inspired for them to find out more about what's really happening with birth today be the change you want to see yes, thank you okay so join the revolution let's take childbirth back that's what Sheila Kitzinger said in one of our first videos we put out women will take birth back women will take childbirth back so yes, come with me join up if you haven't already, sign up to our mailing list at onemorebirth.net and we believe save the midwife save the world save birth change world save the midwife save the world midwives are key to everything we're doing it's the midwives who are the knowledge, the normal birth the midwives are the the wisdom so yes, I think that's the end of my presentation so yeah, any questions or anything you want me to talk about, just come on oh, thank you very much that's really nice to hear thank you, Tony has anybody got any questions that Tony otherwise put them in the comment box sorry Tony, are you all right there? yeah, I'm cool thank you I'm going to scroll up and have a look at the comments questions in the comment box if anybody still wants to take the microphone and actually speaks to Tony you're very welcome put your hand up and then we'll invite you to ask your question can I just say, Sheila Willis she's part of our dancing she's she's fantastic she's the kind of the other cog in the one more birth dance project I'm going to just scroll up while I just see if I've missed anything so yeah, please put your hand up, is that how we do it we've got a couple of questions here Tony go on the noon the noon and joy if you'd like to take it in turns to ask your questions you will need to enable your microphone first so to do that you go to the microphone symbol at the top of the screen click on it where it says allow click on for now then that gives you access to the microphone and do so again I think I'm on can you hear me okay thank you Tony I've been reading I've been reading these very fast little comments and it must be very hard for you to speak when you see them all coming up but that's really creative dilemma between the midwife and the woman in the whole birth role the mothers have the knowledge the midwives have the knowledge and I just feel we've got to protect midwifery so that midwifery can protect the women and birth because of course mothers come at birth for the first time and their minds are cluttered with all the social stuff they hear all the stories they've heard what's unusual in their community whereas the midwives it can practice over a couple of generations I'm in my sixties now and I've been practicing since 1973 which is sort of when a lot of the people who are listening today were being born and I feel that the knowledge of birth is so precious that I can carry it through to next generation each time I'm telling myself I'm doing very good I'll stop now I think you're absolutely right Joy I think what you said about I couldn't hear very well the audio wasn't great to be honest the protecting the mother protecting the midwife I think the midwife is a very special person who has this knowledge who has this and you said the mother has the knowledge I don't think many mothers realise they have this knowledge I think they doubt their own instincts and instead they turn to Facebook and they turn to Google instead of knowing themselves I think it's part of the midwife's job to inform although I know informed choice is not often possible because of hospital protocol but I'm not a midwife but what do you guys think I'm now going to read the comments hello hello who's that hello it's Denise hello Denise I hi I think there's a level at which to say the midwife is about fading through midwifery about midwives who's had the experience of being with women who have let go and physiologically and so forth I think there's a poem that says children learn what they live and the same is true to some midwives and doctors and all the rest of it and what we really need to do is to encourage all midwives to step outside of their comfort zones and to explore what is possible in regard to physiological childbirth and I just know that there's a diverse and practising an diverse and so when you say the midwife so it's a little bit general and yeah I just want to encourage that what you said about physiology is the key is that exploring the physiology supporting the physiology and understanding of how this can impact on future generations and so when we're looking at diverse issues it's more than just choice it's about information thank you I completely agree with oh thank you I completely agree with you I was saying save the midwife just because we've interviewed various people around the world and they were saying that birth is at a nice age right now and that you've got C-section rates at 93% in some private Brazilian hospitals you've got C-section we've just been in Hungary in the university hospitals their C-section rate is 50% and the opposition told us that you've got many other countries where you've got C-section rates so high some of these experts we were interviewing we were saying what's going to happen in 20 years time and they were saying midwifery could be gone if we don't act now birth is on a nice age if you're going towards the more obstetric model of care then we could lose the skills of midwifery we could lose the skills of birth of twin delivery because and that's what I'm saying midwifery is more to say we've got a it's up to midwifery it's kind of responsibility of the midwifery but it's also the responsibility of every woman to fight to say it's midwifery to fight to to fight and be informed for a physiological birth I'm not saying that a physiological birth is right for everybody and I respect people's choices or if people have a C-section if it's a positive birth experience helps by midwifery then great but it's just this kind of the skills of a midwifery they're under threat right now that's not what I'm saying that's what various different experts we've filmed that's what they're saying what do you guys think that's very active discussion does anyone else have a question as you want to use the microphone to ask a question who's got her hand up soon can you use the microphone and ask your question I've asked my question oh sorry anybody else want to take the microphone and ask their question ask your question I've just seen Jay just one of other people I love to see his hand Jay said sorry I don't have a microphone I can't hear the talking so Jay said I've bothered to know if there are any projects in Australia okay we want to come to Australia we want to come to Australia and New Zealand we want to film what's going on there we know that home birth is under threat and we've interviewed we've interviewed a prospective family trade to have interviewed independently wise from Australia we want to kind of get on the ground and find out what's happening so for us one more birth is coming to Australia at some point but as with everything it comes down to money we don't have risk pay for this all ourselves so now it just comes down to once we start launching the film then it's going to have to a donation or contribution because we can't afford to get to Australia and New Zealand so yeah so we're coming and I know face to first they did some wonderful stuff with their film and it's all around Australia so yes there is something we are talking to someone called in western Australia Beth I think if you might be on here now and she's doing a fantastic moving can do it 2013 so watch out for that I think that's going to be fantastic I would love to come to the Queensland are you coming to the Netherlands yes we're coming to the Hague on May we're going to be there on May 30 and we're saying till the end of the conference on the first of June so we're interviewing all the speakers at the Human Rights and Childbirth conference and we're going to be creating a whole load of kind of video content based on what they're saying so as well as the kind of special documentary all about these human rights issues and Agnes Gerab we're going to release kind of birth professional information that is information that birth professionals need how they can act on this new this new law that changes everything check out the community midwifery program in person yes I'd love to I want to be a ninja midwife I don't know how much what is a ninja midwife what is a ninja midwife underground okay where are you Christina can we film you we're going to Canada we want to go to Vancouver so that's our stop as we go around the world we're going to go to Western Australia Western Canada and Western America on route to Australia and New Zealand hopefully New Zealand is where it's at with midwifery at the moment I think it's a fantastic model of care that I've got there if only that was repeated right around the world we've got time for just one last quick question Jennifer do you want to take the microphone to answer your question very quickly I'm telling you Jennifer in Amsterdam do you need hello hello hello Jennifer oh you do you need okay I wasn't sure what was coming to say to you for everything that you're doing and um I'm a bit overwhelmed that you were just with Agnes and could hear her voice at this moment and you're taking the time today to talk about the human rights conference in The Hague I think around the world we hear people talk about birth in Holland and I've seen this place where you can have natural birth and I just want to put out there that I think at this moment in Holland we're losing our natural birth culture and I think the work we'll be and promote internationally to maintain the birth culture is really important and I think this conference we're bringing it up this conference is really paramount us coming together as an international birth community and supporting each other and moving forward yeah I'm really excited and happy we're going to be there a film myth and put it out to people so yeah thank you, well I'll see if you're there then I'll meet you thank you for thanking me but if you're there then I'd love to see you we will meet you look I'm going to interrupt and call a halt to proceedings now as we like to thank Tony very much for her wonderful presentation I'm going to turn off the record button now