 Imagine that you're infinite consciousness, all right, you're everything. There isn't anything that isn't you or could not be you, right? One of your most prized creations would be a place where you could experience the illusion of being separate from yourself. Boom, what's up everyone? Welcome to Simulation. I'm your host, Alan Sakyan. We are still in Los Angeles, California. We are now on the gorgeous Venice Boardwalk. We are going to be talking to David Alexander English about all things related to life, his art, and the way he communicates the inventory of his mind out to civilization. I'm super excited to have this conversation. Thanks for joining us on the show. Boom shaka laka. Huge shout out to Jason Pinsky for introducing us. Definitely. Pinsky! Pinsky! 20 dwarfs, 20 dwarfs, 20 dwarfs, 20 dwarfs. Okay, so David, who the hell are you? Good question. So, you want to hear the story of my name? Yeah. Okay. So there was this woman named Avis Bean, who my mother knew was Aunt Avis. She was my mother's great uncle's girlfriend during the Depression, and they all lived in the same house when she was a little kid. Avis was in a coma in the hospital and wasn't expected to live. And so my mother and grandmother went to see her. My grandmother was standing there in the doorway talking to the nurse and my grandmother. And my mother walks up to the bed and she puts her hand on Avis' hand. And Avis comes out of the coma, sits up in bed and she says, Hello, Mitzi. My mother's nickname when she was a little kid. She said, you're pregnant. You're going to have a son and his name's going to be David Alexander. She went back into the coma. And a few months later, she died. So growing up, I heard this story a lot. And so in a way, it was kind of like in the background of a walking meditation. To cut to the chase, it's like when it's hard to be anything other than, you know, working towards being a significant player on the planet. When, you know, somebody has prophesied you're coming. You know, when you feel like, no matter where you are, no matter what's happening, it's like, okay, so I've got to make something happen. I've got to do something with this. You know, I can't just be a dishwasher. I can't just be a taxi cab driver. But if I am being a taxi cab driver and a dishwasher, there's something here for me to learn. There's something in this moment. The universe has brought me to this moment for a reason. You know? So it's like, you know, how do I harvest that? So who the heck is David Alexander-Irlish? That's, I guess we'll know when it's over, right? Seriously. In the meantime, it's all about, you know, creating as much work as I can. Creating as much of the work that I... You know those moments when you feel like, this is why I was born. This is why I came here, right? As many of those moments as I can possibly create, you know? And the more time you spend in that zone of, you know, I can't wait to create this thing. I can't wait to, you know, get to... What do I get to do today? Okay, I get to paint this painting. I get to write this novel. I get to make this movie. I get to fly this plane. Or just stay in here and just, like, fly to the air. Isn't that amazing? I mean, I love seagulls. I can just love seagulls. I can appreciate the infinitude of my and everyone else's being. Anytime I choose, I can marvel. I can be in wonder, right? Whatever's coming at me, I have a choice. You know, I can choose to, you know, take it anywhere I want. Because we all have spiritual sovereignty. No matter whether we want to abrogate that or not. No matter whether we want to surrender to that to somebody else or not. So, who am I? It's like the blossoming. Take a snapshot. Right? Even this moment. I mean, this is just... This is right now. It's cool. It's cool. It's yummy. It's friggin' yummy. But then... What's the context? Do you need the context? You're gonna learn something either way. If you're, you know, those that have the eyes to see and the ears to hear, right? So, whoever's watching this is there's an agreement that was made before we chose to come into this world that there would be a moment of possibility, of inspiration, of self-initiation. Right? And honestly, I get... I feel totally empowered and totally nourished when I know that I've inspired people. You know, to remember who they really are and that we're all infinite and immortal beings. Right? So, you got another question? You want me to keep going? What? All right. Well, there's a lot of good stuff that you brought there. I like the... You gotta do what... You gotta do what you love every single moment of life and you gotta think about what the realization is, is the educational lesson that you're getting in every single one of those moments. Whether you are doing something that you may think is mundane or ecstatic or sad or whatever, it may be it's all a lesson in this growth that we have. There are a lot of good things. It's all fertilizer. Yeah, it's very footing. Yeah, it's all fertilizer. We have a choice, you know, to pay attention or not. One thing that we do say is that one's faculties need to be trained to see things as everything is fertilizer. The children need to be trained to know that. Not really, not trained. Once again, we're infinite and immortal beings, right? So we all have chosen to be here to take part in this unfolding and this remembrance and this reawakening, right? And nobody needs to be trained unless they've chosen to be trained. We need to remember though. Exactly. But don't we need assistance remembering from other people? People do and some people don't. Yeah. Right? And what are we remembering exactly? We're remembering our what? Infinitude, our immortal nature, our tourist cell. How are we immortal? And our reason for choosing to be born. Our reason? Okay, what is our reason for choosing to be born and how are we immortal? Exactly. Oh, so that's what you're supposed to remember. It's different for every person, right? Okay, so I am born with an intention to manifest some sort of destiny on the planet of hopefully creating some sort of benevolent value to the system of Earth. Right, right. And each one of us has a different intent that we landed here on Earth with. Right. And we have to remember what that intent was. And some people don't. Some people come with no intent. No, some people don't need to remember. Because they came here for what? They came here for whatever their reason was. But to know, to realize and remember would be antithetical, anti-productive. You know those times in your life when you're like, I really want to know a universe and there's like crickets. You don't hear anything. You don't get the information that you're asking, right? One of the reasons why that is, from my experience, is that to know the answer to that question might be counterproductive to you actually doing what it is that you came here to do. Interesting. Yeah. So you have to remain in the discovery mindset. If that's what your mission is, there are loads of people, like 90% of the people on the planet, they're not in discovery. They're not in, that's not their thing. That's not what they're here to do. They're here to fully immerse in the experience, in the illusion of being separate from the one. They're here to immerse themselves in the separation. In the illusion of being separate from the one. From the source of the one. And that's their lesson. I wouldn't say it's their lesson. I'd say for some people it's their lesson, but for some people, it's for them to say what it's for and what it is. Okay. But every person comes here, before they get here, they sit down with a kind of a group of super conscious beingness, right? Their own higher self. And there are certain aspects of the universe that present themselves as super conscious beings. Their sole job is to remember what this whole soul group, every life path, every member of this whole soul group, all 7.8 billion souls of us, is doing what your mission is and what the mission is that you've chosen for this incarnation. And to weave whatever that mission is into the highest good, right? The agenda of the highest good. So that no matter what it looks like on the surface as a mortal person to infinite consciousness, it all makes perfect sense. Not only does it make perfect sense, it already knows what all the possibilities are. It knows what you were going to do before you entered the realms of density. The realms of density are the physical realm, the aetheric realm, the astral realm, the causal plane, right? And those places that are more dense than the physical realm. We all come from beyond all that. That's a super conscious, a place of super consciousness. A higher self place. Right. I try not to say higher self because it's, you know, higher is relative to what? To what, yeah. You know? And we come in through this physical form. And it's misleading, because it's actually, it's all within you. You know that whole little, like, hey, Nova God is within you. It's all within. It's all within. Yeah, within. You know? So, as you said, 9 of 10 you think are here to experience the illusion of the separation. Right, to be totally, thoroughly immersed in that illusion. In the self, in the illusion. Yeah. And the reason is, because the source of the one, that's its agenda. It's to experience the illusion of being separate from itself. That's the source. Okay. The source of the one, the source of infinite consciousness, the source of infinite love. Okay? It's, it's agenda. Because, okay, so let's take a step back. Because that's the learning. That's how you learn. Okay. Hold up. Hold up. Imagine that you're infinite consciousness. Right? You're everything. There isn't anything that isn't you or could not be you. Right? One of your most prized creations would be a place where you could experience the illusion of being separate from yourself to the point where you would savor those things that helped you remain in that illusion for as long as possible, because let's face it. As long as possible is still just a blip in your infinitude. Right? To the point where you would savor those things like fear or doubt, anger, confusion, you know, all that stuff. Pride, greed, all those things. Because they, energetically, those are energetic structures that keep you in the illusion of being separate from you when you're everything. You're the sky, you're the earth, you're the blood, you know, you're all the dimensions, you're everything. Right? You are the creation and beyond the creation. There's anything in the creation or beyond the creation that isn't you. Right? So what's the first thing that happens when a person gets born? They forget everything. You forget who you are and you spend a good slice of your life trying to remember who the heck you really are. Probably 30 years. Yeah, easily, easily. And most people never remember who they really are. Like 99.999.999% of the population never remembers who they really are. Because most people, they use the term soul, recognizing that a soul is immortal intellectually, but they don't recognize, we don't usually recognize that we are immortal. Right? That this is our spacesuit. You know? This is a spaceship. How are we immortal? You tell me. Yeah, you do. All right. Yeah, you do. I mean, if I was to hypothesize maybe this, when this flesh vehicle spacesuit ends, the last heartbeat goes that maybe that I revisit another space suit. Maybe. Yeah. If that's what you, you know, if that's your mission, right? But let's, before you leave the body, I mean, before you leave the planet for good. All right? Every day, every person on this planet leaves their body. Every day. Every day. For dreams? Dreams. But also in trance. In thought. You know what's faster than the speed of light? Look at that face. Consciousness. Right? So it takes 26,000 years for light to get from the center of the Milky Way galaxy to your nose. Right? And if I say the center of the Milky Way galaxy, you're there in your mind. Boom. Instantly. Okay. You know? This is the metaphysics. The word metaphysics, a lot of people, they hear that word, they're like, What? What? Because it's a big word. You know, there's more letters in it than most people use in their regular vocabulary and everything like that. But let's break it down. Right? Meta is Greek for beyond. Physical as in the physical plane of existence. Beyond the physical plane of existence. Right? So what's beyond the physical plane of existence? Us. Us. Consciousness. Right? Our dreams, our emotions, you know, our aspirations, our thought forms. You know, one of the things you learn in metaphysics, in studying metaphysics, is that thoughts are real things. Thought is energy. You know? Energy is vibration. Everything in the physical universe is vibration. You know, the flower of life is the is the standing wave, the standing wave of energy that is the physical universe. Right? Everything in the physical universe is in the flower of life pattern. Right? The flower of life is the electromagnetic field of the universe. Right? Of the physical universe. This is what some of your art is about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So tell us about this, the flower of life, the electromagnetic field of the universe. Tell us about this. Right. So so everybody knows the star of David. Right? The star of David is shorthand for the flower of life. Right? It's a star tetrahedron. It's three-dimensional. So it's a star tetrahedron. The star tetrahedron, you know, it's upward-facing tetrahedron and a down-facing tetrahedron. Right? So every line in the tetrahedron is essentially take a step back. Basic principle of physics is a moving electrical field creates a magnetic field and vice-averse. Right? So as an electron moves from point A to point B, it warps the ambient field around it into a magnetic field. Right? So if you picture a tetrahedron with four, you know, there's four corners and four lines running between them all. Right? Those four lines are the electron moving around. Right? And each one of those lines has, if we're going to draw it in two dimensions, it has two curved lines on either side of it. Right? The two curved lines are the magnetic field, the straight line is the electrical field. Right? The flower of life is made of basically two spheres of star tetrahedrons interfacing with one another. A lot. Electromagnetically, you know, all these electrons moving around, but they all have, they all do the same thing, which is they create a magnetic field as they move. Right? So there's one of these around you, around every one of your cells, every one of your molecules, every one of your subatomic particles, there's one of these around the Earth, around the solar system, and so forth. And an electromagnetic field around every subatomic particle. And we call it, we call it the flower of life, because the pattern is everywhere. There isn't anything that can exist in the physical universe unless it's that. It's the way the universe vibrates. It's energy and it's conscious. It's infinite consciousness. So the physical plane is infinite consciousness? Everything is infinite consciousness. There isn't anything that isn't... And the physical plane is all in the flower of life, all in the electromagnetic, it all looks in a flower of life. Yeah, it's a fractal. It's a fractal. Right, within every one of those spheres, the whole pattern repeats to infinity, infinitely in and infinitely out. I see your mind is melting down, my friend. Trying to chew on that, like... Yeah, there's a lot to remember. Yeah, exactly. There's a lot to remember. You're getting, like, I don't know, I'm 61. You're getting 61 years worth of stuff in like, what, 10 minutes? Yeah. Yeah, it's a lot, but what led you to these realizations? A combination of this is what I chose to be born to do and this is what I've chosen to pay attention to, you know? I mean, there's... our original, you know, plan that we came into this life to accomplish is always up for editing, right? Like, we have sovereignty. We can change it at any time. You know, you can walk down the path or you can take a left or a right or whatever you want, you know? You can remember how to fly and not even deal with a path, right? So I've chosen to pay attention, right? And one of the reasons I did that is because to not pay attention was painful. Agreed. Yeah. Do other people know that? There is, uh, something to pay attention to? I think you, you know the answer to that question. Well, is... What's the answer? Everybody does. Everybody knows that. Everybody knows that on some level. To pay attention. Whether it be just a little bit or a lot and then we make the left or right decisions on whether to pay attention or not. Right, right. For some people, like I said, it's not... They become our habits is what um, enlightenment is not for every soul in every lifetime. It's not every soul's mission in every lifetime to become enlightened, to manifest enlightenment. Because, frankly, everybody's already enlightened. We come from the light. We are the light. Right? We've come into this creation to experience you know, something else that we create. We're creating. We're creating this. We're creating, you know, we've created all this. There's an aspect... I like to say that there's like there's like four main kind of people, right? There's the folks, the souls that help the universe create this. Create what? The universe. Okay. Alright. The folks that help the universe be created? Yeah, they help the source of the one create the realms of density. That sounds like an exciting job. Doesn't it? That's what they thought. A universe designer. And once they created it, that's what we all are. That's what we all do. We all have that capacity. We create universes. Right? Most of us do it on the small scale. We do it in our heads. Yeah. You know, but it's the same thing. A lot of people, you know, you build a house, you know, you fill it with all your stuff and you go to your job and I mean, that's your little universe. Right? Everybody's got one. Whether it's a bed roll or a mansion. Right? But what I'm talking about is... In the beginning, there was, you know, this group of people, group of souls that decided to create this. What's the beginning? It's an illusion. Okay. I'm just, for the sake of the conversation, I'm saying, okay, so there are these folks. A group of souls. A group of souls. Who are these? They're us. They're us. They're we. It's we. It's consciousness. Where everybody's everybody. Everybody is everybody. Because remember, there's just one. We're all one. Right? So different aspects of divinity decided to create something. Right? And they created this and they created that and they created the other thing and then one day they created the day. Right? They created the universe. They created the realms of density. You know, those planes I mentioned before. Right? And they kept creating, creating, creating and what was really cool in this game and the playground of all that is, was that they could, the more they created, the more fun they were having and what did kids love to do during recess? Pretend. Right? So they went into their playground and they, everybody's, I'll be this and you be that and we'll pretend that we're this and that and the best part about pretending is when you totally thoroughly forget everything else except the game. Right? So, they got, you know, deep into their thing, into their creation and then some of them got stuck in there and forgot completely who they really are and where they really came from. Right? So, but once this thing was created there were other aspects of divinity that realized that, hey, there's this really cool place to go. Let's go in there and see what it's all about. So, they came in here and they, you know, those are mostly the tourists. You know, they're just here because it's fun. It was already, they didn't create it but they came to visit and they, you know, got caught up inside and, you know, believing and believing and believing in it. Right? And then, there's there's these other folks that got invited to come in to this construct and remind those around them of who they really are and where they really came from and, you know, to help, you know, anybody that really wants to not actually be in here anymore to like leave. That's kind of what I feel like my role is. I figured. You could tell who those folks are because they're usually the ones that are in service. Right? They're spiritual service and trying to make the world a better place and trying to help people and it's your natural proclivity and that's most of the people that are watching this. That's your audience. You know, people that are that want to do some good. You know, they'd rather do good than do anything else. Right? How can I help? Right? Then there's this other group of people and everybody knows this group of people at least one of them, right, in your lifetime and their mission is to explore the darkness. Right? Explore the boundaries of the creation. Right? And those folks they are fulfilling the prime directive of the source of the want which is to experience the illusion of being separate from itself as much as possible to go as far and deep into the darkness as you possibly can. Damn. Right? And we all know those folks. We try to help them. They're like, we got no command. No. But that's their thing. That's what they're there for because on some level the universe, the source of the universe knows that we cannot be harmed and we can do no harm because this is an illusion. You know, if you're invested in the physicality of things that just doesn't stand with you. You know, it's like, no, I'm going to save you. You know, when the universe knows they have an agreement. You know, in Native American spirituality, there are certain roles. You know, there's a Hayoka. Right? The sacred clowns and the contrary. What are those? They're the contrary. You know, the sacred clown. They're what would, you know, I guess you would call them medicine people that provide a service of reminding. You know, it's kind of the shaman. Yeah. It's to be the mirror. You know, if everybody's going right, they go left. You know, if you go to a sun dance, right? Like, everybody is wearing red and white. And they're wearing black and green. Everybody's going clockwise. They go counterclockwise. You know, everybody gets pierced in the front. They get pierced in the back. You know what I mean? It's a recognized, it's recognized like non-conformist. Right. And also healing. Right. So, example. Okay. So, I'm at this sun dance at Big Mountain 20 years ago. And there is a Hayoka who has, he's been, you can tell when a man takes, Hayoka takes off his shirt. Man or woman, right? And they've a sun dancer. You can just see the piercings, layers and layers of piercings, right? Front and back. Right? And so everybody, at the sun dance, there's all this attention to detail. Like if somebody were to drop an eagle feather, they would stop the whole ceremony. You know, so there's like this intense respect. Because it's, you know, it's a four-day prayer for, not for oneself, but for the world, for humanity, for your community. It's for somebody else that you're doing the dance. Right? And so, you know, from sunrise to sunset people are, you know, piercing and they're, they're attached to the arbor and they're dancing and everything like that. So this Hayoka, you know, goes out into the, into the sacred space and he's got a can of soda and he's got an electric fan and he's just like, oh man, you know, just being profane. Right? But at the same time he's doing that, he's checking on the dancers. You know? He's, he's entering the notion of, of, of light, of being lighter, of lightening up, of humor, the sacred cloud. Yeah, yeah. You know? Yeah. So, that's the, that percentage of people, their job is to go into the darkness. What about the other ones? What are the, what are the rest? Is it just light and dark? The majority of people, like I said, are tourists. Are tourists. And they're just, we're just here to play. We're here to immerse ourselves in this construct as thoroughly as we possibly can. Of the illusion of the separation of the self. Of being separate from the one. Yeah. Of the source of the one. Yeah. Separate from the one. Yeah. So, majority of people are tourists in that experience. Yeah. And some are in the deep malevolence. Well, I wouldn't say malevolence. Of the deep, sorry, the deep. The darkness. The deep darkness. Yeah, they're exploring, everybody is exploring the darkness. Yeah, yeah. Because all of this is just, it's beyond the realm, what I would call, what I tend to call the ultimate reality, which is beyond the realms of density. Where we all come from. Beyond the realms of infinite consciousness. And do we know about that? How do we know about this infinite consciousness place? How do we know about it? Yeah. By paying attention. How do we pay attention to understand that we came from there? It's a walking meditation, bro. Right? Okay. It's a choice. Pay attention. You know, when you go into the wilderness and drop into stillness, whether you're just, you know, sitting in your car, or you're literally in the desert or out in the jungle or the forest sitting on top of that mountain over there, right? When you drop into that, you open a place for communion to take place. For a divine communion, you say, I'm ready. Yeah. Let's have a, you have my undivided attention. Yeah, yeah. What's up? Yeah. Right? So imagine if you go into that space without wanting anything, without needing anything, but choosing communion. Right? So in 1993, 94, I went into the desert about 100 miles east of here. I drove out there with my Volkswagen bus had a bag of rice and a roll of canvas and just intending to have, you know, paint my brains out and have a conversation with the universe. Right? And within three to five days, I started to have this experience of euphoria. And this euphoria lasted, ended up lasting for like three months, 24 hours a day. And no drugs, just paint and... No. The first two weeks, no drugs at all. Then on New Year's Eve, I was given a head of acid. Psychedelics, yeah. And I, you know, I tripped and I couldn't wait for it to be over so I could get back to being high. Right? On life, on flow. On what I was experiencing. The art, the painting your brains out. On being. On being. On just being. I would just, I would just walk out into the desert. Because this world is enough. This world is just beautiful enough to be in ecstasy all the time. Well, there's that. But it wasn't just this world. I mean, I would walk out into the desert and I would just, you know, stand there and all this information would start to come. Just this, like, profusion of just yumminess, the feeling of grace and blessing, blessedness and that which can't not be named. Right? And the next thing I know, I realize that I've been standing there for like 20 minutes, a half an hour or so, you know, just like totally gorging myself on this feast of the feeling and all the information and everything and, you know, I love information. I love knowledge. I love consciousness. Right? And I was, I was in communion with the source of the one. Yeah. Right? And so. It feels like that going really deep into meditation or deep into psychedelics. That's what it feels like a deep communion with the one. Right. It's exactly what it feels like in many ways. Right. So that is one of the ways for people that are trying to help others' communeness to get that tapping into the interconnectedness of the one. Right, right. And that the self is the illusion that there is no, the oneness is everything. Yeah. I want to make, I want to finish something and make something really clear. More questions. More questions, yeah. So the next day I had some friends that came into the desert and they wanted me to smoke this pot and I was like, I'm good, but the universe said no. Smoked the pot. I was like, really? I just want to be, you know, no, no, go ahead. So I smoked the pot and I went out into the desert and once again I couldn't wait for it to be over so I could get back to being high and I asked the universe, I was like, why did you have me do this? Yeah. And the answer was, so that I would know the similarities and differences from the natural high that I was experiencing to these, you know, these substances that most people use, either acid and mushrooms. I think about using drugs in a very similar way to know the real difference in the feelings of being high on life versus high on the drug. Right. Well, it's very, it's really simple that these substances they can only do for you what you can do for yourself. Like they literally only stimulate what's already inside of you to secrete. The problem is that they modify that secretion. Right. So like acid and mushrooms and all that kind of stuff, they all stimulate this crystal palace series of glands to secrete their natural, you know serotonin, melatonin, endorphins, all this kind of stuff. Right. But because you have, you've taken those drugs, like ecstasy, I've never done ecstasy, but I'm told that it stimulates the pineal gland to release all of the serotonin and all the melatonin within it all at once. Okay. And that's why people that, after they've done it, a lot of people don't, you know, a couple of days after, they don't dream because serotonin and melatonin is what stimulates the dreaming. Right. So, your body is physically compelled to respond to these chemicals that you've put in. Whereas, you can do the same thing with just your awareness. You can just, by choosing to be in communion. Right. You can experience that bliss, that ecstasy. You can also do it through the breath. Through the breath, yeah. Right. Yeah. So, you had questions? Yeah. You got some questions, bro? It's an infinite amount of questions. Even picking the next question's hard. Do you feel as though the trajectory of civilization is A-OK, no matter what? Do you feel like we need to be focused on something specific geopolitically to get to the oneness so that we don't cause significant errors in existential threats or anything to let more children birth and experience this and etc.? You mean, do we need to get rid of Trump? Is that what you're asking? Maybe do we need to get rid of nuclear weapons? Wouldn't that be great? Yeah. Let's do that. Can we agree? Let's do that. Let's hope everyone does. Boom! We're on our way. I think so. We're still here. Even after the Cold War, we're still here, yeah? Yeah. When I was born in 57, my father was in the Air Force. I was born in an Air Force base. And there's, you know, DEF CON 2 or whatever, they were on Global Alert. Yeah. Until what? The 90s? Yeah. So my whole life, from 1957 until 1991, when the wall fell, we were under threat of like blowing ourselves to smithereens. And for the past, up until this year, the past two years, since Trump came in, there was no question about the fact that that was taken care of. You know, we were going to not blow ourselves up. Now we've got somebody in the office that thinks that it's okay to be like, why don't we use those things? We bought all these beautiful weapons. Why don't we use them? You know, that's crazy. But I see that you know, this soul, like any other soul, has a mission. Right? And there isn't infinite love, loves infinitely. Every soul in existence. Even Hitler. You know, these souls take on these roles for a reason. And they're catalysts. He's certainly been a catalyst. What has he inspired? He inspired the if he hadn't been elected, there wouldn't have been a women's march the day after he got in and stepped into office. If he hadn't been elected, there are 100 women, in Congress. Because of what of him being elected. Which is not even half of Congress. But we're moving in that direction. I want to return conversation to what is going on in the higher realms, planes of existence. Intent driven journeys are to this earth orbiting the star. And then we remember some don't but some remember and then we go back to renegotiate where we go next. To the next rock orbiting a star. Not necessarily. We go outside of a physical universe in a different style of universe to a different... The first thing that happens is you leave the physical dimension but you don't have to die in order to do that. You can do that in your sleep, you can do that through meditation, you can do it through astral projection, lucid with full with full lucidity leaving your body basically. Here in the physical body, grounded in the physical plane you can communicate when you're out of your body at night or through meditation or whatever, you can communicate with those that are in places that are either more dense than this or less dense. What is more dense and less dense than this? In the physical plane there are places that souls create for themselves when they feel that they have are as yet undeserving of returning to the one. They may feel like they've done something that would make them unworthy of returning to infinite love. And so create these places that try to punish themselves and those places are just more dense. That's one scenario about places that are denser than here. There's obviously not as much light they are more dense. The way to determine all the different planes and everything is kind of just drawing lines to infinite consciousness is all one thing. The determining factor is density. How dense is it? Obviously the physical plane is more dense than the aetheric and astral and causal planes. What are those? Like I said, it all has to do with places that are planes of existence that are less dense than the physical plane. What is the aetheric, astral and causal? Like I said with a musical scale there are certain places if you have a guitar string you have a string that's strung taut there are certain places where if you strum it's not going to sound very good and there are certain places where if you strum it's going to sound pretty good you can hold it down and then there are certain places along there that are going to sound perfect and there are certain places that aren't going to sound like anything you want to listen to. Each one of these planes is like that there is a coherence that a sphere, let's say or zone where things make sense to consciousness that you're tuned into so you can look into because there's an aspect of you on each one of these coherent places in the realms of density you have direct access to those places if you so choose when as if it's not going to impinge on you accomplishing what I'm here to do look at that just trying to understand it's a lot it's exciting to aim to remember so how about one more thing so you know the astral plane is where most people go when they die right and most people when they think about disembodied spirits and interacting with the other realms and all that kind of stuff they're usually just dealing with the etheric and astral planes right so to the astral plane to those folks on the astral plane the causal plane has the same relationship to them it's just as out there and as hard to challenging to commune with it's that much of a step like in music the next chord that make sense are you with me I remember the guitar analogy with where you can strum a guitar at a note that vibrates really well so you kind of want to live your life like that but also I don't know yet when you strum a piano there's a piano over there so if you hit all middle C let's say middle C is a physical plane there's a scale based on middle C that in the middle of the piano key there's 88 keys and in the middle of it there's a C scale so there's C scale below that and it sounds deeper and there's C scale above that that sounds higher so you're going octaves up thanks for giving me that word this is interesting so this is one octave the etheric is at another octave the astral is at another octave how do we raise our octaves raise them how do we go up how do we bring our consciousness up is that the meditation and the one feelings of oneness remember it's important to remember one this is just an analogy two there is an aspect of you on every one of those octaves all at the same time so maybe when I get some of the darker feelings that's the more denser octave and when you get the lighter feelings that's bright and so then what do you do with that so you can only you can only access that if it's your part of your mission to do that and if doing so is not going to impinge on what it is you came here to do that you're in this octave to do but if you feel like you need to communicate with these higher octaves have at it at any time it's your call whether or not they will communicate back with you is it determined whether or not it's going to mess you up in what you're really trying to do came here to do to the physical plane what did you come to the physical plane to do this and what is this what are we doing right this minute just aiming to have a conversation about awakening and oneness so just the further dissemination of awakening and oneness inspiration towards that I feel similar yeah I came to are we inevitably going towards unity or is it inevitable that we get to that to an awakened state for more of the you realize that there is just oneness right yes and the rest is illusion it may be tasty illusion but it's still illusion doesn't it at times feel like the ignorance is a parasite I guess so bro if you say so to you yeah I guess I'm not going to that's how you feel that's cool ignorance is a it serves a purpose yeah you were talking about that earlier that there are experiences being had here that are only possible if you are believing that this is all there is and that there's a purpose to that those experiences being had at this time yeah so everything inherently has purpose and even if you don't think that the universe uses everything right the universe everything is fertilizer everything fertilizes everything else nothing is wasted so whether you're aware of it or not the universe is going to use whatever you're doing and whatever is happening to it's greater purposes straight up like if I died right here right now and nobody touched my body the universe would make my body disappear into the ground eventually microbes would be happy all that kind of stuff and I would be fertilizing this spot yeah so what do you think is the most beautiful thing in the world the world hahaha that's usually my answer too yeah you know the whole thing man it's all friggin amazing yeah just like look at that right there see that airplane that's an incredible feat I might like this phrase look at that I call it see a bird make a plane throw away like a coffee cup hahaha so literally a hundred years ago it was like oh my gosh look we can do that yes and then we went through a several decade process of making airplanes and now almost 200,000 commercial flights happen a day and you get off the commercial flight you throw the idea away like a coffee cup yeah really people get in those things and then they pull down the window I'm like are you kidding me you're flying across America you're not gonna like look out the window I did one 150 years ago people were like have a covered wagon trying to get a horse and people walked across America just to get to California man 6 months yeah crazy what is time that's a great question what comes to mind is that time is a function of gravity it's just something I've heard and I'm like really it's like mental bubble gum you know what I mean just chew that up a little bit it's all relative man whatever time is it's definitely relative because there's an eternity in every moment and there's an infinite number of eternities in every moment depending on your perspective or it could be just us waiting standing in line behind somebody else waiting for something else to happen or we're having an epiphany if all of you is happening in all of the different octaves all at once are you not also happening all at once in all of your ages right now exactly all time is simultaneous the non-linearity of time well see there's once again it brings us back to the source of infinite consciousness right it knows all there is to know it is everything there is to that there is and so at the moment of the creation the first moment of the creation it knew the whole every centil of the creation and so in that model to me it's like the source of infinite consciousness loves to be surprised being surprised is like it's like dessert you know what I mean? surprise me because I know everything but try to surprise me anyway and I think that's one of the reasons why humanity you know because we surprise ourselves every friggin day you know I mean I'm surprised myself right now I mean I look like it but I'm I'm constantly amazed by where I find myself what I find myself being doing and I I think if I'm capable of it most people are as well you know so hmm look at that how do you feel about exponential technology? exponential technology what are we talking about? just that we now have these incredible computers and phones that are super incredible better than what was used to get to the moon helicopters biotechnology neuro technology just mapping things out really well in the brain and in the body genome sequencing etc it's all just dropping in price and increasing in speed etc yeah it's wonderful isn't it it's friggin amazing do you think there are any negative aspects to exponential technology? right so positive and negative are on a spectrum of being in existence so it's all love even the negative is love ultimately it has to be because all there is is an infinite consciousness and infinite consciousness is infinite love right but to get a little more specific there is you know I'm an astrologer and I'm a student of history I look at the big picture I spend a lot of time big history you know like the history of the universe the history of existence civilization 100 billion people lived and died to build this world right so it's obvious that there is in 1903 the Wright brothers flew in and and 66 years later we were walking on the moon that's pretty great 66 years that's pretty good before that it's actually incredible that's probably the biggest human accomplishment ever right in the fastest time period ever so the computing power in this in my hand right now is more than what landed us on the moon yeah which was almost 66 years ago right exactly exactly isn't it credible so it's obvious okay okay so I got you all excited yeah yeah population up until 1900 around 1900 the human population was under a billion souls incarnate at once yeah it was around that time then we had 6 billion in the last 100 years yeah so yeah right now we're approaching 7 7.8 billion souls that's how many souls there so there's a soul in every person right but there aren't like there's not fractaling of souls like there's not one soul being shared across of course there is remember what part of all is one that we not forget yeah yeah so then your soul bathes in mine and mine bathes in yours and what not the interconnectedness of things yeah ultimately we all come from the one but there are 7.7 plus billion souls and we're approaching 7.8 frequency of the earth the human resonance for the person the base frequency of the earth is 7.8 hertz is that the frequency of the crust or where it's a frequency of the planet overall based on the 3 to 4 thousand lightning strikes that happen every day cause the frequency of the earth to frequency 7.8 cycles per second which is in a harmonic with the ambient vibration of the universe the wavelength of the ambient vibration of the universe is 7.3 sine cosine centimeters so it's like we're in this for the first time in recorded history the number of incarnate souls is coming into a harmonic with the base frequency of the earth and the ambient vibration of the universe in our life time sometime within the next year so but why so but no I say so but I know I know cause I'm trying to understand this so I'm trying to paraphrase it because otherwise I don't think I understand it so 7.8 billion 7.8 hertz frequency of the planet and that is a synchronous check it out since the last world destruction around 12,000 years ago to 1900 less than a billion souls at the same time on the planet world destruction 12,000 years ago what was the world destruction so according to the Hopi oral tradition there have been 3 previous world destructions in the past 100,000 years the first time by fire the second time by ice and the third time by flight the most recent one what was it Hopi what's Hopi the Hopi are the Native American that live in northeastern Arizona 3 previous their oral tradition goes back through previous world destruction and the most recent one damn they've logged that's good lineage they've had the information they've had the oral tradition now it's only been within the past you might want to know this yeah while I was having that spiritual acceleration back in the winter of 1993-94 I discovered an archeological site in Big Sur that I feel may be connected to the Hopi story of the survivors of the last war purification by flood and their place of emergence into the fourth world and I made a movie about it and released it in 2010 yeah it's on YouTube you can watch it for free David Alexander English.com David Alexander English.com D.A. English.com and the links in the bio and you have your books there and you have your music there and the paintings I discovered the site the first site and then over the next 20 years I discovered two more sites within 5 miles of that first site they're all have something to do with celestial observation celestial observatories and It turns out that they are in the National Forest and the Forest Service didn't know anything about it until I showed them the photographs of the sites that I took in 2004. So I made a movie about this whole thing. For the first 10 years afterwards, after the first initial discovery, I thought that it was common knowledge. I thought that the Forest Service knew about it and that other people knew about it. And I tried to find out what they knew and then it wasn't until 10 years later I was actually able to talk to the zone archeologists and discover that they had no idea that the sites were there. And so I made the movie in 2010 and then I made it free. I put it on YouTube in 2012 and published a book version of it. It's a straight transcript. Excuse me. Around that same time, I was working on the sequel to that movie in the book. And all this information started to come out, the scientific information. I've been trying to understand when did these previous world destructions take place in terms of just history and science. And it turns out that around 2012, we discovered when the middle destruction took place about 41,000 years ago. And that was by fire? No. The first was by fire and the second by ice and the third by flood. That was the ice destruction. And there are two different scientific studies. One was looking at the Greenland ice cores and one was looking at the North Sea lava flows. And they both determined that there had been a polar shift, a magnetic pole shift that happened 41,000 years ago. And the oral tradition of the Hopi say that when the Nephi of the Great Spirit was ready to purify the world for the second time, he told those to remember to keep the tops of their heads open to the rest of the universe to go into the earth and join the ant people for the second time. And once they were safely inside, he told the twins who were stationed at the poles to leave their station. Immediately, the earth rolled over twice, fell off its axis, rolled over twice. The oceans flopped over the land, the mountains fell into the sea and as everything froze. And the earth wandered through space for years before starting up its rotation again. That's crazy. That sounds crazy. It sounds crazy and what's amazing about that oral tradition is that is an eyewitness account of witnessing a magnetic pole shift. And then how did they retain that through generation? Oral tradition, brother. If there was an Ice Age, though, that killed everyone. The Ice Age didn't kill everyone, obviously. And according to the Hopi, the second world, excuse me, the third world began again after the earth started to rotate again. And it was a very technological age. So much so that there were actually what they called shields that flew between cities. That's how technological that age was. And that age was ended by a flood. So around the same time, between 2012 and two years ago, this other scientific information came up where they've discovered that there was a flood and when that flood took place. That flood took place between 12,900 years ago and 11,600 years ago. And then what was the significance of having just one billion souls and now up to something? So after the world was destroyed the third time by flood, it wiped out the majority of the population of the world. So right now there are more souls incarnate than there have been in the past since the last world destruction. In the past 10,000 or 12,000 years. So how we got into this part of this conversation was you were asking me about my take on the exponential growth of technology. So we are at a place that it's obvious that just in that there's an exponential growth in population is an exponential growth in technology. And that all of this is being driven from the other side of the veil. What does that mean? The veil is the membrane separating the physical universe from the rest of creation. And how is the population growth and technology growth coming from the non-physical side of the veil? Right. And it's really simple. That's where we come from. Nobody is here by mistake. Nobody just kind of stumbled into being born. Every soul that comes into this life arrives here through agreement with their higher self and the super conscious beings that are keeping track of the whole soul group. And you construct a lifetime as a healing or as a gift to the collective consciousness. So nobody gets here by mistake. Everybody gets here by agreement and by choice. And the only way, like what you said earlier, how many life times did it take to build up the physical infrastructure to support 7.8 billion souls being incarnate at the same time? Ten thousand years. Ten thousand years and all of our ancestors. What they did helped to create enough of a physical infrastructure that could support 7.8 billion souls. And where did all those souls come from? They came from the other side of the veil. How does somebody get technology? You get it from paying attention to the universe. Right. From ideas and from the metaphysical realms. And then you can tweak the science because you understand the rules, the laws of the nature. It's all coming from infinite consciousness. Being in communion with infinite consciousness. You get an idea. Through your dreams, your visions, your thoughts. So what I'm saying is that all of this is coming from the, you know, there's an agenda that's manifesting. Is it our agenda? Yes, they are we. There's just us out here. It's our agenda from the higher. Yes, all of us. And we bring our intent here. Right. We're doing this. Quick, quick, quick. This one we got to wrap it up. So this universe is designed with math and science and love and consciousness. And it's designed with rocks orbiting stars in space. What other kinds of universes have you imagined? Have I imagined? Yeah. It's boundless, bro. It's whatever you want to. What about you, though, specifically? What other kind of universes exist out there that may not have green grass, green trees, blue oceans, but rather completely different Dr. Seuss shit? Why do you ask? Because I love universe design and I bet your mind has wandered into some of that. You know, like I said, it's boundless. That's what I do all day long, you know, is make stuff up. I'm a professional and make stuff upper. You know, professional and dreamer. You know, that's what I do. So, you know, how many hours in the day? You don't have enough tape. Yeah, it's the batteries. It's the batteries. Yeah, the batteries, man. Well, yeah, because I spent the first half of another interview today. Yeah, and I still want to cap some b-roll. Okay, we'll have to do another episode when I'm based in San Francisco. So come when you come and visit, let us know. And you can join us in the studio up there. I'll let you know when we come back to LA. David Alexander English, what a fucking pleasure, my brother. Watch us in pleasure. Oh, fucking pleasure. Fucking pleasure, my man. Everyone, DA English, check out the links in the bio. Also, go and spur these conversations with other epic people around you. Let's get these conversations rolling. Also, go and build the future, everyone. Go manifest your destiny into the world. We love you so much. As if you could do something else. As if you could do something else. That's right, that's right. We love you so much. And we'll see you soon. Also, support awesome artists. Yes. 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