 by the turtle. Yeah, the turtle got me. Sorry about that. So yeah, I was, I have a, I've been thinking about the issue of gender bias and sexism, people's attitudes towards women. And I know there's work to be done there because, for example, someone on the Super Chat from your show a while back, I don't know now, maybe a couple of months ago or something, they asked the question, isn't it strange that Ayn Rand came up with objectivism because women generally are not attracted to reason and logic and something to that effect. But feminism is definitely not, it's got a lot of bad elements mixed into it. And so I wouldn't want to identify myself as a feminist or call a movement to correct those biases, feminism. So on the one hand, there's work to be done and it's beyond, it's more specific than just individualism versus tribalism or collectivism because there's a certain kind of subset of that problem that needs to be solved. And similarly with racism and racial bias. But so what do you think about the language to use when talking about something like that? Well, I think there's a lot of work to be done. I think that, I think a lot of men have no concept of how sexist the world was and still is to some extent, although it's much better than it used to be. And how racist the world was and how it's gotten better, but there's still a lot of racism there. Somebody just said, I mean, this is an example. Somebody just says, name three women scientists. I can. And by the way, the Pfizer vaccine was developed by a woman, a Turkish woman in Germany. So, you know, but it's that, yeah, I mean the people thinking in those terms and people don't recognize it. And yes, there's been a shortage of women scientists. There was a shortage of women painters in the Renaissance and through the Enlightenment. You know why? Because women were not allowed to do anything. They were literally forced into a role of a domestic servant and a breeder of children. There's a famous story, there's a movie about this. I kept her out of the name of the movie about a woman who the only way she could pursue intellectual career, intellectual, is to become a courtesan, is to become a prostitute basically, because then they left her alone. Then she was outside of kind of society and then she could go read and she could paint and she could do the things that she wanted to do. And what a horrible choice, right? What a horrible situation. So yeah, absolutely. I mean, there are few women artists, you find their paintings, but they had a painting hiding and they feared persecution constantly. And their paintings were often presented as being painted by a man and only years and years later was it discovered that they were female. Yes, I think that that needs to be talked about. It doesn't have to have a banner, it just has to be talk about the fact that this is the history and to some extent it's still with us and that the real place where it needs to be talked about is the young girls. Particularly, if you look at the statistics, young girls going into I think high school are equal to or further ahead of boys in math and science. And then they drop out in high school. The number of girls involved in high school. And that's, yeah, the movie is Dangerous Beauty, by the way, the movie is Dangerous Beauty. It's worthwhile watching. So those are the goals that need to be encouraged to pursue what really interests them rather to pursue what certain segments of society think they should do even today. And the reason they're not a lot of engineers and sort of can value women is because they're just not enough women engineers. It's not because they're less skilled or less talented, they're just not enough of them on them, graduating from schools. And I think that has to do with biases that go back to teenagehood when we're teenagers. So all of that needs to be worked on and needs to be advocated for without it falling into the trap of collectivism. I don't think it's that hard. I mean, look at Anne Grant, the way she did it was portrayed female heroes. I mean, woman running a railroad in 1957 was pretty good art and just good education. Yeah, yeah. And also, but even once I am an engineering, two engineering degrees, and even once a woman gets into a career after school, she'll encounter a lot of attitudes that you can't do it or just assumptions that she's not able to do certain things and certainly not to like be a leader in such a field. And so I think that's where it has the most impact in my mind is just limiting people from pursuing the most important value in your life, your career and being told over and over again that I know you can't do this, even if you know that you can. Yeah, no, it's horrible. It's a horrible injustice, you know. And anything I would suggest is just, and I'm sure you do this, is just to stand up against it and voice your opposition. I think that's the best activism you can and you pave the way for younger women who are gonna come after you. I think that's how women got as far as they have today. And there is a real part of my hatred of the right, of the new right, of the kind of new right is the extent to which they are sexist and racist. Yeah. It's just ugly, the way they talk about women and the way they talk about minorities is just horrific and it's so reactionary. It's so going backwards that it's just offensive and at least the old left, the new left is, women are supposed to hate men and all whites are racist, but the old left, the kind of the more traditional liberals at least really did believe in some sense of equality in the appropriate way between women and men, between the races, color blindness and sex blindness when sex blindness is appropriate. Sometimes it's not, but when it is. So, yeah, it must be horrible to have to deal with that and to know that it's sometimes under the surface because people are afraid of being it out. So sometimes you can't just stand up against them because you don't even, the opportunity too because it's under the surface. It's usually under the surface because they know better. Every once in a while someone will just make an explicit comment and then it's like, they're giving me a gift because there's something I can really do about it. But most of the time it's not, but on a related issue, I think that there's a lot of opportunity for objectivism in this. There's sort of a subset of, I don't know if you'd call it feminism, but there's almost like a cottage industry around supporting women's professional development like people sell books like Lean In, for example, by Sheryl Sandberg. That's one of the most notable ones. And they're all giving women advice and this advice inevitably turns to things like, well, you don't have to just always sacrifice for your husband or your kids or whatever. It's okay for you to take care of yourself, but then they'll go on to say, you're not being selfish if you take care of yourself. And I want to scream back at the audio book like I am being selfish when I do that. And that's a good thing, but in a way some of this about trying to support women and encourage us to be active in our careers and successful is about, you can't do that without saying, assert yourself and be selfish in some sense. And they try to straddle this fine line of like be selfish, but call it something else and don't really be selfish, but we still value altruism, but you should advocate for yourself and advance your career. A whole self-help industry is like that. Yeah. So, pursue your dreams, but don't be selfish. Yeah, it's ridiculous. There's a massive opportunity for objectivism within the self-help world. Yeah. I'm just not sure how to do it, but somebody should do it. As I said, my viewership of my channel drops when I do self-help type stuff and rises when I do economics and politics, which is not as much fun for me, at least the politics part of it, but that's the reality of the marketplace. The marketplace doesn't want me talking about self-help. 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