 Okay, let's, yeah, let's just turn our variables to efficiency of 5, efficiency of 5 and looking at versus 15 and 16, okay, efficiency 5 versus 15 and 16, which says, see then that you walk circumspectly, not as fools but as wise, redeeming the time because the days are evil, okay, see that you walk circumspectly, circumspectly meaning carefully, at the same time, you know, sure of what you're doing with a lot of thought intentionally, right, see that you walk circumspectly, so which means see that you live your life in that manner intentionally without, you know, it is the opposite of just doing things arbitrarily or and so on, not as fools but as wise, okay, so use wisdom, I think through and we know in James we read about the kind of wisdom, godly wisdom that comes from above, right, and he also says redeeming the time, okay, so we know that, you know, time, the quality of, I mean one of the attributes of time is that it passes, right, you can't really get it back, you can't set back the time, right, but he says redeeming the time, so which means, you know, walk in such a way that time itself is bent or time itself is brought back, so in other words, we know that time cannot be but walk in such a way that time is used well, right, time as a precious resource is used well, he says because the days are evil, right, so that instruction that we have for us, something for us to, you know, think about something for us to also, you know, realize that, okay, how am I spending my time, okay, not to be fearful of, not to be paranoid about, but definitely to be, to preach, you know, if you have like 1000 rupees, 100 rupee notes, you know, 10, 100 rupee notes in your pocket, will you be careful or will you be careless, right, you will be careful, of course, we will be generous, you want to give to people, you will want to take care of your need, okay, all that is there, but you will not be careless, right, we will not be careless, right, we will be protective of it, we will be mindful of it, so he's just shifting, you know, are you thinking the same way about time, okay, minutes, seconds, minutes, hours, days, years, decades, are we using it well because time has its capacity to slip by if you're not careful, right, suddenly you realize, hey, five years have gone by, suddenly you realize 10 years have gone by, right, and where did they go, so saying, redeeming the time, walk circumspectly, redeeming the time, right, so let's just pray and commit our time into God's hands and say, Lord, thank you for the resource that you've given, I commit it into your mighty hands, give me the wisdom to use it well, help me to walk circumspectly, intentionally, and help me to walk, what is this redeeming of time, teach me how to do it, let's just pray, Father, we thank you, thank you for this wonderful resource that you've given, Lord, each one of us, this wonderful resource called time, and Master, we pray that you'll give us the wisdom to use it well, Lord, give us the right perspective of time, Lord, that we may not be fearful, that we may not be, Lord, a paranoid about it, Lord, but Lord, really enjoy it, enjoy the time that you've given us, enjoy the minutes and days and hours that you've given us, Father God, and use it well, Father God, Lord, teach us what does it, what it means to redeem the time, Lord, and I pray that we will use it well for your glory, Father, help us to live in the present fully, and at the same time, Lord, that we would walk circumspectly, Lord, when it comes to things of the future as well, Lord, we thank you, we commit ourselves into your mighty hands, in Jesus' name we pray, amen, amen. Okay, so let me just share the notes, looking at leadership, what did we look at last time? Organizing, okay, so organizing is something that comes naturally to some people, you know, normally maybe, you know, naturally you're an organized person, okay, so you know where to find your things, you know, anybody finds your things immediately or you have a difficulty finding your things, your own things, you know, like your keys, your personal stuff, okay, where you need to find it, even sometimes within the bag itself, Francis is reaching for the bag, so I just, even within the bag, you know, where did I keep it, you know, sometimes just open it, just throw it there, and then you want to find it and it's all, you know, so some of us are naturally well organized, you know, that's a personality trait, you want things in place, if things are not in place, it disturbs you, right, and some of us are too stringently, you know, even if it moves, you know, by a few inches, you know, you get upset, the pencil has to be there, the thing has to be there, you know, so, but irrespective of what personal device, how we are, we need to either learn to organize ourselves and our time, you know, our people, et cetera, in the industry, and if you, if that is a natural thing to really use it well, right, to really strengthen that, so today we look at organizing our schedule, organizing our time, I think I shared a little bit about how in the ministry you can schedule your time, right, so especially if it's a church ministry, you think of the whole year, maybe the years ahead, and think of what you want to do, you know, so it means that the ministry has a plan, right, okay, this is what we want to do this year, okay, as a church ministry, this is what we want to do this year, so we think of all the things that we would like to do, all the things that we want to do, and then list it down weekwise, maybe monthwise, weekwise, et cetera, right, see, some of the things are already planned, if you, you know, if you are there for the youth missions in Hyderabad, you know, it's already planned that we will have our youth missions, I think 30th October, 1st November, you know, that, those three days, right, so we already, that's already decided, the Christian leaders conference, again, already decided for the next year, so like I was sharing, by the October of the present year, the plan is more or less put in place for what we need to do for the next year, right, for the next calendar year, so let me just share that, that document, it's a simple Excel sheet, but it kind of helps, okay, and yeah, and you'll learn more in depth about this in church administration, so we're not really going too much in depth, but is this visible, is it big enough? It is, okay, so you see there, you know, so every ministry, okay, whether it's youth, whether it's women's ministry, whether it's men's ministry, every ministry, you know, plans this out and gives a calendar of this which is put together, okay, so you see what is happening in Feb, let me just, okay, sorry, okay, so yeah, so we had water baptism, if you look at Sunday 4th, we had water baptism, we had monthly youth meeting at APC South, but there are a couple of things which didn't happen, which have been actually, the changes were made after this was released, okay, like the worship team audition orientation, worship team night, if you see 9th Feb, you know, so that flexibility is always there, right, but not too many changes, right, but these things were actually, because 9th was supposed to be a worship team shoot, so you know, that worship team night is not happening, but if you look at the weekend schools, if you look at the membership class, the monthly youth meetings, the volunteer appreciation day, women's luncheon, right, so if you're having, if your church, your ministry has all these, you know, various things that you're doing, it helps to have a calendar so that you can schedule, you know, it's just a practical wisdom, right, that doesn't mean that, you know, as far as possible, we will try to stick to this, not make arbitrary changes, right, work towards it. Now, okay, so how does this help, so this helps in getting all the different teams to work together, so we talked about, you know, organizing people, right, so we have different teams, like typically in a church ministry, you might have the admin team, we'll have the, you know, people, see when I say teams, you don't necessarily need to have four or five people in each, you know, area, it can be just one person, you know, let's say it's a small setup, right, small church, it can be just one person, one person doing multiple things also, right, one person can be doing graphics, one person can be doing administration, whatever, but it helps to put everything together, everybody can work together, everybody can, you know, systematically do these things so that things are done well, right, okay, at a personal level, okay, let's say, so this we're talking as an, at an organizational level, at a personal level also, we can, you know, you can schedule your time, okay, so how many of you have the habit of making to-do lists, like every day to-do lists, okay, one, two, okay, sometimes, okay, when you have a lot of things to do, okay, so the to-do list is a great, as a great tool, you know, it's really good to help us organize our thoughts, prioritize things, right, so we might have 10 things to do, but which is the most important one and, you know, start doing that, so start planning, so we can use our time well, right, so that's, that's quite useful, okay, so we have another section on productivity planning, so something about to-do lists, I'll share a little bit more in that, right, okay, so what is the other area, fourth area where we need to organize is our finances, right, when we're looking at ministry as a leader, organizing our finances, okay, so knowing fully well that whatever money we spend, we are accountable to God, we are accountable to the people whom we are leading, so this needs to be handled well, this needs to be utilized well, okay, this is one area because of which the world will, world points fingers, okay, at the church and blames the church, blames the ministry, blames the ministers of God, and this is one area where people can fall also, right, so we need to be careful, we need to be, you know, extremely careful, not just us personally, but make sure that entire organization does this well, simple thing is how much of money is coming out, keep a record of it, how much of money is being spent, and where is being spent, keep a record of it, right, that's a simple way to start off, you know, it can, for example, it can start in a simple, you know, notebook where it is, where it is written, you know, if it's a church every Sunday, okay, so much of offering came in, so much is being spent, you know, you spend so much for tea, so much for coffee, so much for, you know, bills, keep a record of it, one record of it, write it down on which, on what did you spend it, and have a proof of it, okay, it's not enough to just write down, okay, I spent on this, you know, but what is the proof, proof is a receipt, or proof is a, you know, transfer made, you know, if you made a UPI payment, you have that, so, you know, keep a record of it, so you can be transparent, and you'll also be, you know, confident that this is what I spent on, this is what we received, okay, again, the in-depth details working of it, we will learn in church administration, but basically, we need to make sure that our finances are organized, you know, again, this could be a strength for people personally, right, you know, how much you spend, where, what, etc., but if not, this is something that we need to learn, you know, budgeting, spending, making a, keeping a record or tracking expenses is important, right, so, when we do this, we know how we are allocating our money, where we are allocating our money, okay, and when we budget, we can plan, okay, where the needs are, where the need is, where do we need to spend, how much, etc., are we spending too much, should we need to reallocate, right, should we need to reprioritize things, if this is too much we are spending, so maybe we should need to cut back, and all those decisions can be made, only if we track, if you don't track, if you don't keep a record, then how can we make those decisions, right, it's as simple as that, so it's important to track down, especially to make those strategic decisions about spending, etc., because we know, okay, God wants you to do this, and it will require so much to get it done, okay, when it comes to time, when it comes to finances, and which is a good thing, you know, this is, it will require so much, so it's not about how can I spend so much, no, this particular thing that God wants you to do requires so much, so, you know, so do I, do you have enough of it, how do you know only if there is a track of it, record of it, right, so simply put organizing your finances, any questions, organizing time, organizing finances, okay, so right from the start, it'll be good if you keep a track of it, if not also to make those changes so that it's kept, you know, make sure that it's done well, so yeah, like if it's a, yeah, so right from the start, I remember seeing one of those notebooks, where it was written by hand, Sunday, right from the first Sunday, what is the offering which came in, and what was the expense, so from that, to Excel sheets, to using software like Tali and so on, so yes, but it's not impossible, see, initially maybe you're the only person, you're the Asher, you're the worship team, you're the, you know, pastor, everything, initially yes, then there will be some people whom you can delegate it to, some people who are called, who are maybe skilled at this, trustworthy, loyal, so you can let, give them, you can monitor it, you know, check that, so yes, it does require time, it does require, you know, space and all that, so when you, and the thing is, you know, we can always, when we reach a stage of growth, we can always outsource it to an auditing firm, which can take care of it, and, you know, takes care of all that complexities, but it's very necessary, important, if you make a mess of this, then it's going to affect, like we said, you know, the administrative side impacts, influences the spiritual side, has a bearing on the spiritual side, the spiritual aspect has a bearing on the administrative organizational aspect, so both are equally important, so you cannot afford to miss out on either, right, so so okay, I think Anand's question is, you know, if, yeah, yeah, so the thing is this, you know, so maybe people have questions, okay, why are we spending on this, or can't we do it in a different way, etc., so yeah, so right from the start, if you have this in culture, you know, in place, saying that, okay, this is how we are doing it, and this is, I mean, this is how we're doing it as an, you know, this is the money that we are spending on these things, these are the priorities, so that's why the vision helps, right, so our vision, if you're saying, our vision is this, to be the voice to the nation, to be, you know, to be salt and light here, and to the nations and so on, so you know where the focus is, right, so allocation of funds also flows into that, no, so it's in line with that, so everything ties in together, and I don't know if you've seen when it comes to church, if you've seen the records right from the start, it's there on the website, financial records, audited financial reports, let me just share that with you one second, okay, I'm just opening the website, let me just share that, okay, about us, and this little shuffle here one second, okay, accountability, yeah, I think under accountability, okay, I'm just checking on accountability, okay, so you see that, right, financial year 2001, 2002, okay, let me just share the screen, sorry, yeah, okay, so just tell me if it's on the screen, okay, so these are the financial years, right from 2001, so 2001, February 18th is when church started, no, so right from that time, what is the income, what is the expenditure, so it's audited and so it's not just the hour record, so it's done by the external auditor, right, so like whoever wants can take a look at it, so it's there, assessment year, this is what, so you can see like how much has come in, how much has gone out, so when things are transparent like this, so something like music equipment, so you can see, you know, it is just about three lakhs or something for the entire year, and you can see, oh, yeah, I just opened the thing, okay, can you see now, okay, so yeah, okay, cash at bank 3.48, so I think that will be the budget of Bible college for, I don't know, at the present time, no, it's, okay, so you can see, you know, books, 2006-47 for printing of books, stationary printing, I think, sorry, 86,000 was the printing and travel and conveyance, and then this is it, right, so, okay, so trustee signature, auditor, external auditor charted accountant, signature, so everything is put, okay, so when we do this, see what happens is, everyone who's giving to church, okay, so everyone also understands that this is, they're transparent, they're not taking over their money and running away, or taking the money and, you know, spending it in a wasteful manner, so that's the thing, and of course, you know, people are always welcome to, you know, based on this, they can check this and always write to the accounts, so we've not had anyone write and ask and think, it's all there, yeah, yeah, exactly, so they know, you know, it's not, it's a good place to give, it's transparent, etc., so people, well, the question is this, you know, like what prevents us from not doing it, you know, we can ask ourselves, you know, what prevents us from not doing it, are things need to be, you know, refined, you know, some more, is there any gray area there, what is it that's preventing us from not doing it, you know, so when we do it, see, now again, it's visible for all, okay, people within church, it's visible everywhere, right, whoever's on the net can see it, so that's the other side of it, everybody can see, the government can see it, right, yeah, whichever government is in power, for again, everybody can see, but it's, it's transparent, this is what it is, so yeah, it's, it helps us, it's one way of saying, okay, we are accountable for every money that comes in, accountable to God, first of all, and how do we, you know, kind of make it practical and relevant that we are accountable to God when we are accountable to people, right, so this is one way of making it, yeah, so, so the thing is to start when we are small, when the organization is small, to do it in a small way, right, okay, any other questions apart from this, sorry, okay, if not, we'll continue, okay, so we are just moving on to the next topic, again, in leadership, about developing leaders and delegating, okay, now this is, most of this material is from the book, House of God written by Pastor Ashish, okay, so raising up leaders, developing leaders, delegating leaders, okay, so we see when in Galatians actually, Paul refers to the leaders, you know, he goes from obscurity, you know, he writes in Galatians 1, verse 18, right, so after three years, he goes to Jerusalem, visits Peter, remains with him 15 days, and then etc, you know, he writes about that, and in chapter 2, verse 9, he says, and when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceive the grace, etc, so he's talking about James and John and Peter, and he's referring to them as pillars of the church in Jerusalem, right, so which means he's referring to them as leaders, leaders being pillars in the body of Christ in Jerusalem, right, so it is important for us as leaders to develop other leaders, okay, so that the whatever we are building as leaders or whatever work that we are leading as leaders can be strong, okay, so we have others who are carrying responsibilities, you know, I'm sure you had the, you know, you've had moments when you think that, you know, I wish there were other people who were helping me in this particular thing, I seem to be, you know, carrying a lot of things, a lot of responsibilities, I'm doing this all alone, I wish there were more people, so that is exactly, you know, what other leaders can do, they can shoulder the responsibility, they can come alongside and help in carrying the vision, carrying the responsibilities that come with it, carrying the load of work that come with that, right, so we need to raise up leaders, well leaders need to be encouraged, readers need to be, like just like how, you know, Barnabas did, Barnabas actually took Paul, you know, out of obscurity, he was doing his work but he took Paul, he brought him to meet with the others and so in a way, you know, he kind of raised him up or launched him into the leadership position that he was called to, right, in similar ways we see that Paul raises up other leaders, right, who are the other leaders that he raised up, Paul, Apostle Paul, Timothy, Titus, then Antifa, Onesimus, and then what about John Mark, John Mark also, you know, like, even though initial start was not so good, but you know, yeah, he says, you know, bring John Mark for his useful for me in ministry, all right, so, you know, these are people he intentionally raised up, okay, so it's a good model, good example for us to follow in order to raise up leaders, okay, so the question is, okay, what do I look for in a potential leader, okay, when we say potential leader, this person has the ability, has what it takes to be a leader, okay, so two things, you know, does that mean that I should not raise other people as leaders, well, we can always nurture them and when they have these potentials or when they have these traits, these characteristics, we can raise them up as leaders, okay, so we're going to look at a few things, right, what to look for, your first thing is personal life example, which means that they've come to a place of living out what they believe, okay, so which means that, you know, spiritually, their spiritual walk with God, it is consistent and, you know, we're not saying that they are spiritual giants, right, but they are believers, they're spiritual disciplines of, you know, maybe being in the Word, spending time in prayer and other things, you know, it's consistent, right, they are walking and they're living a life of consistently, you know, following Jesus and having a good testimony among others. If you look at, you know, in the book of Acts, we see that they chose some people for the work of distributing to the saints, right, so what are the qualities that they looked at the apostles, okay, so we see in Acts chapter 6, right, sorry, yeah, so they were people of good reputation, full of the Holy Spirit and wisdom and they appointed them, right, over the ministry, so we see that, okay, this is what they had, they were people of good reputation, you know, how can you have a good reputation, but how does one get a reputation, let's say, correct, okay, sorry, sorry, what, code of honor, see something that is seen repeatedly, say, I don't meet you once and form a reputation, I can form an impression, you know, this is my first impression, I don't know, you know, I might have a first impression, but reputation is something that is built over time, it is still something that people observe, right, it need not be who you are, right, it need not be who you are, in the sense, I might have a good reputation of you, you might, you know, you might have a good reputation as a great person, like Paul, like in the church at Revelation, is a church in Ephesus where the Lord says you have, you know, you have a reputation of being alive, but you are dead, right, so you can have a reputation which need not be a real indicator of who you are, but we are looking at this, we are looking at observing, people are also saying that, hey, yeah, no, no, it's not, it need not be two different things, right, it need not be, a good reputation need not be two different things, but again, it can be also, yeah, so, so which means that I have a reputation for being a, you know, like people outside might say, wow, wonderful husband, wonderful father, see how lovingly opens the car for the wife to get in, which need not be the truth, you know, because my wife should testify and say, actually, you know, he's a great husband, so which need not be, but it can be the same thing also, so that's why I'm saying reputation need not be the same as the person because we see that example in, you know, in Revelation also where the Lord says, hey, you have a reputation for being alive, but actually you are dead, right, so okay, but anyway, personal life example, reputation, you have a good reputation with others, you have a good testimony, etc., which means that it is something done repeatedly, something consistent over and over again, where you build, you know, you have a reputation, so when as a leader, you know, you want to, as leaders, you want to raise up other leaders, personal life example counts, right, is it consistent? Do they have spiritual? It's a good thing to look for in people to raise them up, right? Second one, spiritual and emotional maturity, okay, to be mature, what does it mean to be mature? Not going up and down, balanced well, okay, mature means grown, fully grown, right, so it's the opposite of, you know, whenever you want to find out some, you know, what something is, it's also good to study what it is not, it's opposite of being childish, right, childish, irresponsible kind of thing, so a mature person is grown, is, knows how to take care of oneself, okay, so emotions, emotions are not, you know, all over the place, they know how to, they are self-aware, okay, also it also, you know, it's good to know that, okay, a person mature is, does not have a need, right, you know, let's say a special emotionally mature person is secure, okay, so what do we mean by that? It means that if a person has a need, you know, a very desperate need for approval all the time, okay, what does that mean? Approval, need for approval, you know, yeah, I want people to always tell me, I want to hear, okay, I'm good, I'm great, I'm doing a good job, you know, whatever I do, you know, and so which means this person is insecure, if the person will not receive correction, right, if you say, okay, actually this is not good, you need to change it, that's it, the day is gone, the person is shaken, broken, right, so secure, and also you can do things so that your, you know, your fame and personal fame and popularity and so on, you know, what am I getting out of it, right, what are the people thinking about me, right, so emotionally and spiritually person doesn't have or as good, as grown beyond this is dead to those things, right, so, so like I said, you know, these are things that, well, some qualities that people may not have, they might be growing into it, right, so which means we wait for some of these things to be found in them, some of these things to be strong in them, and then we raise them up as potential leaders, okay, okay, alignment, what does alignment mean, what does it mean to be aligned, yeah, in line with, in line with, aligned to the vision, teaching, culture, values of the ministry of the church, right, so you're leading them as, you're raising them up leaders to be in that ministry, like, hopefully, or you can just raise them up as, you know, leaders wherever, you know, wherever they are, so in, you know, whether it's in the ministry that you are leading or the ministry that they are going into, are they aligned to that vision, are they aligned in line with the vision, okay, so that's what, that's where a lot of conflicts, a lot of breaking away happens because the person actually is not in line with the vision, the person has a different vision on the inside, so they reach a place of, they are appointed as leaders and suddenly you realize that their vision is totally different, they don't want to do the things that you have actually raised them up to do, you know, they want to do something else, so they break away and then, and then you decide, I'm not going to raise up any leader hereafter, you know, we come to that conclusion because I raised that person, I invested so much and this person did this, therefore, never again will I raise up leaders, everybody will be under me, you know, so that kind of an attitude, you know, it's sad but that we see that, right, so yeah, so you align to the vision, align to the teaching, you know, the state, the doctrine of the church, you know, what you believe in and also the culture, culture and the values, okay, okay, responsible, I think that's self-explanatory, a person who's responsible has a sense of responsibility, which means that whatever tasks are given, handed to them, will they do it well, will they do it on time, will they carry it out fully, okay, suppose, you know, they're supposed to open up the church and keep it ready, etc, and then you come and then you see nothing is done, okay, you know, that means that person is not, they've not told you, they've taken off somewhere, you know, they've just gone, which means that that person does not have that characteristic yet of being responsible, right, so you cannot trust, you cannot, it's like this, you know, if something cannot take the weight, will you put more weight on it, you know, if that table cannot take the weight of your laptop or, you cannot put weight on it, so you will think twice, like at home I have one chair which is slightly shaky, so when guests come, we move it out of the way, we don't want them to sit there, you know, and that'll be a catastrophic, right, so why is it that you move it out of the way, because you know that it can't take the weight, so therefore, you know, responsible being responsible, if the person cannot take the weight of responsibility, then they cannot be raised up as leaders, right, okay, reliability, yeah, exactly, so the thing is, you work with people till they reach that place, you know, you're always nurturing, okay, nurturing people to, for these qualities to be in them, but to raise them up as leaders, as these have to be there, in some level at least, right, otherwise, yeah, to raise a leader, see, so what are we doing, we're going to raise them up as leaders, we're going to, you know, spend time with them, raise, you know, and then launch them into leadership positions, right, that's the whole objective of, now this may not be a long-term thing, so having said that, you want to see these qualities in them, okay, now, for example, they might be, you know, maybe reliability is an issue, you know, maybe they're 50% of the time they're okay, you know, maybe, or maybe 70% of the time they're fine, but you need to increase that further, that's fine, but what if it's zero, right, so then if you can't, they're totally unreliable, you can't even see them as potential leaders yet, right, they have potential as a leader, but then this quality is not there, because they need to be nurtured to that place and then make them as leaders, right, yeah, very many work. They are not willing or they are not willing to work, like the way how we work and the vision, what we have, is it, can we consider it like they have a different vision and they have a different from God, it can just be that they are, you know, they think creatively, they look at, they look at problems differently, look at solutions, you know, give different options for solutions, it's just that they are being creative, now that is different from, you know, I totally don't agree to the way this ministry is, you know, whatever you are doing, it's very different, right, I'm not in line with, you know, whatever the objectives of this ministry is, or wherever we are going in whichever direction we are going, no, I'm not part of that, I don't want to be part of that, I'm going to be thinking, you know, I want to do something else, or I feel that, you know, as a church, we need to be doing something else, right, so then it's very difficult to work together, yeah, so maybe, see, it need not be morally wrong, it need not be ethically wrong, it need not be unscriptural also, right, whatever they are thinking, whatever they are saying, so, yes, we can say, okay, they have a different call, they have a different, you know, emphasis, what is calling them to do something different, so rather than constraining them and, you know, putting them, it's better to release them, say, okay, encourage them, say, go ahead. No, just ask you one more thing, like, see, when there is a person which is, which we raised as a leader, and when he, when he wanted to take half of the congregation, and he, he went out and he, he started a church with the, the remaining, the half of the congregation, and how we can see that, and then, is, will God accept this, and, and I saw many pastors that they were developed after they separated this congregation, and they became a big church other than the first. So, what is the motive of that person even planting another church, right? So, maybe God has called them to plant a church, called them to be a pastor, called them to be, you know, an apostolic minister, you know, in the same place, the same, you know, the same city even. Yeah, so, so the thing is, like, as we are raising up them as leaders, they need to see certain qualities in us also, and we need to kind of inculcate saying, hey, if God has called you to do this, do it, right? But when you leave that place where you are serving, leave that in a better way than when you entered it, right? So, God is calling me to serve, okay, I'm going to leave it in a better place, leave it in a better state than when I, when I first came, you know, I'm going to serve so that something is done well and I'm going to leave. So, if you're going to leave in a way where there is a lot of strife, a lot of division, and, you know, these kind of things, then, you know, then it's very sad, you know, in the body of Christ, there is a, there's a lot of people talk, there's a lot of gossip and there's dishonor, you know, rather than being glory to God, we are actually bringing a lot of shame and, you know, dishonor to the body of Christ, to the ministry and so on. So, that should not be, you know. So, even when we are raising up leaders, so these things, we should talk about it openly, you know. Hey, if you want to, so if a person is, you know, going to very tightly hold on and say, hey, this is it, we are the church, there is no other church, we are the church that's doing the greatest job on the planet, etc. And if you're constantly talking like that and then we are going to hold tightly to our leaders and not release them, then these things are bound to happen, right? But, you know, again, you know, even if you do everything rightly, you know, a person can have a wrong motive and do it, you know. So, yeah, so the thing is, when you leave, you need to really draw people to that particular ministry, wherever, whichever place you're leading, saying, will you be faithful here? And, well, God has called me to another place and to start something all over. Well, God is going to help. What's the point in taking half the, you know, people from here? So, yeah, the motive of the person leaving, the motive of the person even raising up leaders, all that too many factors are there. So will God bless the work? That's your second question. God will bless it. Yeah. But the thing is, whatever we are showing, you need to understand that, you know, if you're not careful, if you're not changing our ways, you know, it's going to happen. It's just going to happen. Yeah, reverse, because, because this is going to be a mentality, right? This is what you did. This is there in your DNA, and you're passing it on to the other leaders, it'll happen. And in order to not, for that not to happen, you're going to be looking at them suspiciously all the time. You know, when you're going to break away and go, because that is what I did. You, I'll be careful, you know. So I'm not going to fully trust you. And I'm not going to let you into certain areas of my life. I'm not going to be transparent. And the other person also builds up other leaders like that. So it's a very, you know, very damaging thing to the body of Christ. You're setting a legacy that's, or setting a trend that's very, but yeah, just like the Corinthian church, there's so many things happening. Yeah. But when we know the truth, we don't, it's best, you know, we don't let those things happen. You know, in our, the way we raise up leaders, we raise them up well. And in a healthy manner, so that they are also free to do what they want to do. Yeah. Okay. So we looked at responsibility, reliability, we're almost done. Okay. Okay. We'll look at the other characteristics like excellence, continuous growth, few other things, those 11 things, right? We'll look at it in the next class. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Thank you. God bless.