 Hi there. So, your reactions to the conference. I know you travel a lot. You've been in many wonderful conferences across the world. agile India perhaps the first time. So your reactions to the conference. How has it been? It was great. Really enjoyed it. Lots of very interesting people to talk to. Tons of really impressive questions from people and just it was great. The best part of any conference is always conversations with people between sessions or maybe instead of sessions. And it's definitely not been disappointed in the quality of conversations, both with other speakers and with people doing real work here at the conference. It's been a lot of fun. So if you have to contrast or compare this with any of the conferences in the U.S. or Europe, how would you rate this? Oh, that's not fair. It certainly is way up there. That's for sure. Definitely top tier. Anything, if at all, we have to improve something coming around next year. Is there anything one item things can improve? Nothing's jumping into my head. Oh, well, okay, I am I am not a fan of Indian food, but you're not going to change that. That's definitely hard to change. It was very nice to have a good Italian restaurant in the hotel. Perhaps you can look for that. Yeah, well, it's a good one right here in the hotel. All right. In terms of people coming in, we know Indian most of the people here attending IT services. And a lot of the people whom you probably interact are in the product list organizations. So how does, you know, in terms of questions, qualifications, how does how is that? Actually, the fact is that most of the people that I was talking with even here and including everybody in my workshop was in a product company as opposed to IT services company. There is an awful lot of opportunity for people in India to get involved in product and not just product like for Europe or for the US, but product for India because this is one of the most rapidly growing economies in the world. There's so many opportunities for getting involved in products for people here in India for products that sell here. I was just talking to a consultant who one week worked at a local company, small one that made products for the Indian market. And the people there just loved working there because they were making an impact on India. No turnover, they were very proud to be part of that effort. The next week he worked at one of the big consultancies. Turnover 40, 50 percent every six months. Pay was significantly better, but even significantly higher pay was not enough to make people proud and really like to work at this big consultancy because they didn't have the purpose of making a difference that mattered in India. So as soon as they found another opportunity they'd take it. And I think there's a deep lesson there for the way work gets done in the country. You have an opportunity, you have bright intelligent people committed. If you can focus their passion on making a difference here in your own country where there's so many opportunities to really make this is a better place to live. I think that you'll thrive dramatically. Eventually that will soak up all of the talent in the country and the U.S. and the West is going to have to figure out how to do their own work. That's an interesting. The other thing I've been always pondering about is the fact that the skill levels and how the organization is structured in terms of NNIT services because that's been the maximum here. We don't necessarily cater to the skill, upgradation as rapidly as the technologies are evolving. And Ajail and Lee movement as an example you're still laggards as far as you embracing the culture change and how we go about doing things. Any tips on how? So I'm not sure I agree with you. First of all remember I didn't interact with a lot of IT services companies but that's not what I saw. I just definitely saw people who were challenged who said I'm not just going to do project type stuff. I'm going to get involved in all of the very important technical stuff to make sure my code is good. Great and that's what I was used to doing in the past and I'm certainly going to do that in the future. There was definitely a lot of people that were being challenged to and an awful lot of very skillful people so I guess I just didn't notice what you said. Wonderful. I didn't either. But again the groups that we interacted with were more typically either small consultants, products building for the Indian market or divisions of companies based elsewhere Germany or the US that were creating products that were from India not products that somebody else told them what to do or if somebody else was telling them what to do they recognized the problem and were struggling to find a better relationship so that they they could be passionate about what they were doing. I guess there's a perception thing which is out there. Yeah right no I don't I absolutely don't see India's lagging in the areas of Atom wing at all. Wonderful that's really good. And by the way sometimes if you say these things want a cultural change maybe you should say our culture is good and we should figure out how to adapt those things to the way the culture works here. Absolutely absolutely. So one last question would you recommend this amongst your peers wherever you travel to attend this conference? Absolutely. Definitely. Taking away from your one metric so I'm just all right thank you. You forgot the second part of the question and that is why and the why is because I think that it's possible to make a big difference. Right so I actually assume that why because we have already been somewhere high up in the conference so probably it goes from there. Yeah all right great thanks very much. Thanks a lot. Thanks very much. Yeah now I leave it.