 Coming up, the Electron rocket arrives at its launch site in New Zealand. The new Mars rover finds its landing site. All that and more as Jared's got a great interview with the everyday astronaut. You know, as soon as he's done cleaning the windows, does anyone know how to open the airlock? I have no idea. Welcome to orbit 10.07! As always, I am Terry and I am joined by Jared and Benjamin. I nearly called him Mike, just ignore that for a minute. Hello Ben! We'll do that. And I've got a dada behind me and some other various things going on. Hello dada. Hi dada. He's like a sign that he can hold back his dada. Ping dada. We don't need him anymore, I'll just cover him up now. Before we get started, I want to make sure we give a huge shout out to our escape velocity Patreon members. These are the people who are going to spend $10 or more for this particular episode or this particular segment of this particular episode. They of course get access to our Slack channel. If you are interested, you can head on over to Patreon slash T-M-R-O. How's that? Awesome. Alright, so now that we have all the fun things, I believe we need to start off with a slightly sad thing and then we can move on to other more fun things. Because ending on a sad thing is just sad, right? Yeah. So Jared, tell me about the, uh, not thing that didn't happen this morning. Yeah, unfortunately a lot of you who may have got up early this morning to watch the first launch in nearly, uh, geez, almost six years. Yeah, somebody said it was like 2,000 some 160 days. Yeah, the first launch of a Falcon 9 rocket from Launch Complex 39A was scrubbed this morning, right about 12 seconds before launch, unfortunately due to an upper stage issue. So, um, man, right down to the wire and it didn't go, so that's a bit of a bummer. But, you know, they're going to try to do a 24 hour turnaround and see if they can come back. I believe the next launch time is at 9.38 a.m. Eastern Standard Time. So, we'll see if they're able to do that tomorrow or if they need a little bit more time to rectify some of the issues that were happening during the countdown. Eastern Standard Time, you noob. Alright. Wow. There you go. Wow, okay. Tell me how you really feel, Ben. Moving on to things that did launch, I'm just going to talk right over you. We do have things that did launch though, right? Yeah, here we go. Oh my goodness. Here's an Arian 5. Check this out. There you go. That happened Tuesday, February 14th at 2139. Coordinated Universal Time, Jared. Thank you. That's from the... Well, that's the time they go by overseas, right? Yeah. You're in the state too. Much from French Guiana. The payloads were the IntelSat 32E, Sky Brazil 1. It's basically satellite TV to Brazil and Telecom 35 is providing satellite TV and mobile coverage to Indonesia and Southeast Asia. So congratulations to Arian Space for another successful launch and the Workhorse Arian 5 rocket. That is an incredible vehicle. It's just awesome. Alright, moving right along. We've got India. This is pretty cool. This is awesome. I hope we have... I didn't actually review this. I hope we have footage of the payload deployed because it's amazing. Yeah. But they deployed a record-setting 104 spacecraft. Check this out. That launched Wednesday, February 15th at 358, Coordinated Universal Time flying in the XL... This is the Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle flying in the XL configuration, which had six solid rocket boosters strapped to the side. This put 104 of those satellites, I can mention. They're mostly CubeSat, so they're small. And it was really cool because they deployed from these quad packs and they just kind of fell off the vehicle one at a time, like back to back to back to back. We didn't get, like, separate footage of that. That's alright. That's alright. Yeah, oh yeah. It was pretty sweet. 88 of the CubeSats... Look how cute they are. Yeah, look at that. Bam, bam, bam, bam. 88 of the CubeSats were Dove satellites for planet... I believe that's for planet labs, right? Doing Earth imaging from a polar orbit to gain global coverage in addition to their existing flocks of Doves. Also, nine of the Cubes were used for space flight services, eight for Spire Global, and three for university experiments. The primary payload of this mission was a Cartosat 2D, it was a mapping satellite that will update maps, plan urban, rural infrastructure, and monitor coastlines, and boats, and neat dookies like that. There you go. So one big bigger, I mean, that's not huge. It's definitely bigger than the CubeSats. And then a Gojabillion CubeSats on this thing. And yeah. They all are. Back to back to back. And there you go. That's hilarious. Chris Reckliffe is in the China room saying it's just planet. Is it just planet? So they're no longer planet? I guess they're not rocket labs. They're not planet labs. They're just rocket over here and planet over there. Oh, I don't like that. Just like Pritz. Modana. Modana. Just planet. Share. Yeah. I guess. And then, was it Destructor 1701? I lost that comment. All right. Here's a plea. Here's a plea to planet. Don't do that. Planet labs was pretty cool. That one worked. But just not planet. That's confusing. It's what is in planet labs? What is my plea? Please do something else. What if it ends up becoming dwarf planet? What if it gets demoted? I'll just prefer them as planet labs like I do with Pluto. Refer to Pluto's planet lab doesn't make sense. 1701 says, yeah, my nephew said the deployment looked like it was quote, pooping satellites. It did. You know, I'm sorry that we don't have that. We fail. I'm sorry. But if you, YouTube, probably planet deployment or... See, that sounds really weird when you say it like that. That is bizarre. It's on YouTube. Yeah. If I think of it, I'll put a link to it in the show notes so you guys can watch it. It is really, really awesome looking. It's just, you know, blop, blop, blop. And the vehicle is still moving away from the earth. So you see the earth getting smaller as all these satellites are deploying. I love how there's like that cluster of them in the background and you're still seeing them come out. And you're like, when is this going to stop? That's a lot of satellites. So we may not have that video, but we both, Jared and I just mined it for you. So I feel like that's a close second. It's probably better that way. Let's be fair. Okay. Well, let's talk about Mars. Should I mine the story or? Interpretive dance. Interpretive dance. Interpretive dance. All right. So we're going to Mars where all the things actually plunge some water around there. That's fantastic. So there was a conference last week where a group of scientists at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory came together and they determined or essentially narrowed down the landing sites for the next Mars rover, the Mars 2020 rover. So they went from eight landing sites to three landing sites with the rover expected to launch in July of 2020 and land in February of 2021. So these three landing sites are some pretty interesting places. The first one is Jezero crater, which that is beautiful crater that's been filled by river channels multiple times three billion, three and a half billion years ago. Excuse me. Then we've got Northeast Sirtis, which is a layered terrain indicative of hot springs and ice melt. And then after that, these are actual images. These are not real color. Okay. That makes more sense. That's candy, right? This color is added in to kind of give you the geological variance that's in that area. All right. Because that would be incredible. But the previous one, that was also false color? Yes. That was also a little false color, not completely false color. All right. All right. A little bit of false color. They're still beautiful. Yeah. So this is one of the hills, which is another area, which is the third and final area, which is where hot springs are the shallow lake. It's also the most disappointing image of all of them. Yes. But what's so cool about this image is that it was taken by spirit, one of the Mars exploration rovers. And actually one of the ideas is that if the Mars 2020 rover lands at the Columbia Hills in Gusev crater, they actually might drive it to spirit to take a look at it and inspect it. So that was one of the ideas that they were talking about. Yeah. Are they going to put a little broom on it to dust off the solar panels? It's dead, Jim. So I don't think there's anything they could do about them. Sad trolling. Really? Because spirit went down because the solar panels basically. Well, one of the problems with spirit is it got stuck. Sure. And then the angle that it was stuck at did not allow it to receive as much solar electricity as it did. And it's coated in like Martian dust now, right? There's also that. So if you get the solar, the photovoltaics of solar panels working again at the sun, wouldn't that potentially maybe boot it back up? You could. It's been sitting there extremely cold for a very long time. If I remember correctly, there's also two drive wheels that are broken and one steering wheel that's broken. So you might not be able to move it anywhere, but you might be able to get it back online and do something. Use it as like a weather station or something like that. That would be pretty cool. Well, the Mars 2020 rovers landing sites are coming out next few years. So they'll eventually pick one of those three, but they're going to be doing very intensive studies of these landing sites. Now, the rover is going to be designed off of curiosity. It's literally going to be a clone of curiosity just with different instruments and different wheels on board of it. And some of those instruments, my personal favorite is that they're going to have 30 test tube sized containers to store potential sample return samples. So sample return samples. Sample return samples. So that's very, very exciting if you ask me. So I can't wait for that rover to go, although we've got some time to wait for that rover to go. All right. Very cool stuff. This should be an online poll. Ben. Yes. Speaking of Rocket Lab, Rocket Labs. So I'm not sure if this company might be known as Rocket now. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Rocket Lab, it's lab singularly, but I always say Rocket Labs. It's Rocket Lab. They have their Electron Rocket and that Electron Rocket has reached their launch site in New Zealand. Actually, the fun thing is this is the first launch site in New Zealand at all. So step up your game, Australia. And the Electron Rocket is one of 17 small sat launches in development worldwide. Actually one of 17 or more, 17 that we are aware of. I think they're actually more than 17. As I mentioned, privately owned launch site in New Zealand and the first launch site in New Zealand. It's going to be pretty awesome. Actually, I think we have a picture of that. Dash three. I'm sorry. I didn't give you the... So there it is in the hanger. It's pretty. Yeah. Isn't that gorgeous? That's all carbon composites. That entire vehicle, tip to tail, carbon fiber basically. Carbon composites. It's a two stage rocket. It uses liquid hydrogen. I'm sorry. Liquid oxygen and RP-1. So it's a Keralox rocket. And it can lift about 330 pounds into orbit. About 311 miles above Earth. That's 500 kilometers. And there you go. There. Look at how gorgeous that is. That's their launch site. That's very cinematic. Now this is false color, right? It is not. This may be my favorite new worldwide launch site because of how gorgeous it is. I don't know where they took that picture if that was done with a drone, but I'm hopeful that they can get a camera there for live launch coverage. Vandenberg, but better. Check this out. One fact to what I forgot to mention is their engines. They're 3D printed. They're 10 of them on the vehicle in Rocket Lab makes those engines as well. So their engines are 3D printed. They got 10 of them. They're the roughboard engine. Oh my god. This is awesome. So they are getting ready to launch this rocket. There will be three test flights before they will actually launch customer payloads. And they have so many customer payloads. They're booked for like two years straight or something. Wow. Something insane like that. Yeah. I mean there is high demand for a launcher in this class. Good. In this class, it's about $5 million to get it to buy the it starts at $5 million. I believe that gets you a good chunk of the rocket payload. I don't know. They have a configuration tool online. I don't remember how much I get you. But yeah, this is oh and mini-storage brings out another interesting thing. They use an electric turbopump. So instead of doing these big, huge, complex things, they can just it's just an electric motor that can ramp up or ramp down. Right. Nice. Like innovative, simple, neat, just easy technology on these things. That's awesome. This is my favorite new startup space like Launcher right now. It's like they're this close to launching. It's real. There's hardware. They got a launch site. I am super duper, ultra excited for this to actually launch. And it's in New Zealand. So you get these just epic cinematic views from the launch itself. Peter Jackson. I hope they live webcast that. I think it's going to be awesome. Yeah. Peter Jackson. Can they bring Peter Jackson to the live webcast? That would be kind of cool. That would be sweet. He'll do my frame rate. He'll do the last three days. It's fine. I'm okay with that. It will be a test flight. So that's very possible. That could be a thing. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah, about that. All right. Jared, speaking of group effort. Yes. There has been an incredible study that was just released this week. Launching from Middle Earth says us. Nice. Don't go into a polar orbit because you just, you know, don't go to, because you can't simply just launch in the morning. I want you in the morning. Anyways. What? One does not simply make a polar orbit. Yes, go on. Anyways. Now that we've got that in the way. Yes. A group effort to find exoplanets just recently announced some of its, recently released some of its data just recently. We're all a little tired. So tired. So tired. So 20 years of survey data was made public, statistical analysis by the University of Hepfordshire, massaged that data to find exoplanets in it. Now this was using the Keck telescope in Hawaii, and they used 61,000 individual measurements of 1,600 stars to find over 100 exoplanets via a method known as radial velocity. So to better explain radial velocity, imagine a planet going around its star and that planet's gravity actually will pull on the star. And the star will actually do a little bit of a circle as it goes around. Now we can detect down to about 30 feet of wiggle from that star. So it's kind of just like a ice skater with another partner ice skating. And when they start spinning around each other and they're holding hands, the one in the middle doesn't stay straight in the middle. They kind of make a little loop around. And we're measuring that little loop that the host star of the exoplanet is making just by detecting that movement. And that's what we call the radial velocity. And we're detecting the movement of the star itself? Yes. And it seems like 30, you said 30 feet? About 30 feet. That seems like a lot of movement. That's the most sensitive that we can get down to right now. I know, but 30 feet seems like a lot. 30 feet? It does seem like a lot, but it actually isn't very much. That's for like a Jupiter, one and a half times the massive Jupiter sized planet. That's how much of... It actually depends on the distance to the sun as well. Yeah, that helps as well. But they use this method, which is not a primary method of finding exoplanets to find over 100 of them in data that's been previously released. So just surprising news that you were able to go back into the data and just... How far away? So someone mentions 30 feet from light years away, a cape, something. So right, so from light years away we're able to detect a 30 foot wiggle in a star. Yeah, because we can see that star that we can see that star moving back and forth just by looking at its light curve. That's incredible. That is great. I'm glad you explained it. A, I'm glad you explained it. B, I'm glad you explained it the way you did because it's something I can understand and relate to. Because I looked at that graphic and I was like, why don't we just go straight there? Like what is happening right now? That graphic means it's like the wiggles. It's like the blue wiggles and the red wiggles. So like... So if an object is moving away from you, the light from it will be a little more red. And if an object is coming towards you, the light will be a little more blue. It's like a Doppler effect. Yeah, it's literally the Doppler effect, but for light. And that's how we're able to tell the amount of wiggle that a star can do. So, is that we look at the red and the blue and see how much red and blue we actually get from the light. So you're talking about stars much like our sun. So how much does our star move? Our sun actually wiggles about 175 feet. Oh. So a lot. Because we have a lot of sun wiggle shirts. Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle. Oh. With the sun on it. With the sun on it. Yeah. Maybe it could be around the sun. Wiggle, wiggle, wiggle, wiggle. Okay. Pretty cool. Stars wiggle, but they don't fall down. Starfighters? Yes. Let's go that way. Goodness. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. So we have the word nest. Yeah. Is this the next one? Yeah. All right. Ben. God. Jesus. I'm trying to not take over the show and you're like, you go now. Yep. No. It's your turn. Tell me something interesting. So we talked about electron rocket earlier, right? Yes. They're getting ready. We've got another one. This one's called cube cab. They're going to launch from an F-104. This is what it. Oh. Yeah, buddy. Yeah. F-104s were made in the, what is it? The 50s? Yeah. Looks like, yeah. Kelly Johnson Lockheed Original. Yeah. This was used in the very early days by the Air Force as it was one of the first vehicles they had that could go in excess of Mach 2 and they would train fighters on it. So this was kind of a training aircraft. So yeah. It's the Lockheed Starfighter F-104 and it's going to launch. They're going to put little rockets underneath the wings. The small rockets are going to be attached to where the former rocket pylons beneath the wings were. And they're going to be able to launch cube sets from this plane. So launching from planes, as we said in the Slack channels, all the rage these days. So they'll be able to- It's so hot right now. Yeah, exactly. It's so hot right now. Was that a little, what was that? Zoolander. Zoolander, yeah. They're going to go up to about 60,000 feet or 18,000 meters and launch from there. So they're going to get pretty high up out of a good chunk of atmosphere before they launch the rockets. Now you're not launching a whole lot. You're only launching these little adb to cube sets, which are like 12 pounds a piece. They're pretty small. But still it will hopefully help continue to drive the price of these really small satellites down, right? Because one of the issues today, at this exact moment in time is you need a very large rocket to send stuff up. You're going to go as a secondary payload. So it's still very, very expensive. Companies like Rocket Labs or Sunbi Rocket. Or just labs. I don't know why I'm making fun of Rocket. Rocket LLC. Yeah, exactly. No, it's planets fault. Anyhow. Companies like that and then CubeCab and all the others is that they are helping to reduce the cost of space flight, which is a good thing because we'll be able to do more things in space and the more we can do. The smaller projects, all ships rise with the tide. That's what I'm getting at. There you go. CubeCab seems like an adorable name and that looks like kind of a B.A. sort of plane. You know what I'm saying? Well, that was just, that's just stock footage, right? That's not their plane. That's an old school NASA F-104 that I just grabbed off of the internet. But that plane was referred to as the missile with the man in it? Yeah. Was it? Yeah. It was called the Starfighter. I mean, yeah, that looks like a pretty, I can't think of a really good description that's not safe for work. It's like a stubby X-wing. Oh, yeah it is. It looks awesome. It's another wing that kind of goes rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr That'd be awesome, yeah. Yeah, yeah, exactly. They'd be really cool. Yeah. They should just tack one up. And about Mach 1 and rip off. But they should just tack one up just for the, just for effect. Yeah, I don't know. CubeCab is like, oh, we're just gonna put some little things in space and like that's not what that plane says to me. I'm excited, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Well no, but a good chunk of it's gonna be lifting the plane body. You know, doing all the things with the plane. You're not gonna be able to stick that much payload On there, but you're still going to be able to put payload up there and you I don't have pricing information But I I will assume that it would be even less than electron rockets five million price tag But the price will be less and the payload will likely be less interesting All right Well, you're a gem on says rocket planet because we're talking about rocket And Lars von Braun said it was also called the widow maker. Oh Yeah, yeah, and that seems way more appropriate for that. It was a very difficult play Yeah, no, we all learned something today. Didn't we? Jared Jared yes, tell me I can't make any sense out of this one. Okay, it's all right I can't make any sense out of this. Yeah, Jared. Yeah help go So the National Reconnaissance Office is getting ready to launch a payload from the West Coast out here at Vandenberg Air Force Base And they just recently completed the the last pre-float big pre-flight task, which is raising the payload up to the top of the rocket Now this payload is a National Reconnaissance Office satellite So we actually don't know what it is, but it's speculated to be for naval surveillance a payload of actually 2 It'll be launching on top of an Atlas 5 in the 401 configuration with a 4 meter payload fairing No solid rocket boosters in a single engine center upper stage launch is set for March 1st But there is no launch window yet as of this morning And though I bring it up because this launch is going to be covered by our tomorrow Street And that we usually do because I'll be going out to it and making terrible jokes the entire way for you all to watch We should have put a classified stamp on top of that It's a big black screen. This is itaar The actual payload yeah everything we're allowed to show you on the payload right there. Yeah We see the payload again because they're very if you notice look at each channel. That is a remarkable You don't see that very often. It might be false color though. Yeah, it'd be false color. I already made that joke, okay Tune in, you know because it's lots of fun. We get to do the rocket road trip and it's just monitor crop yields. It's the RRT. I like it. Yeah rocket road trip. Yep. I got it. Oh, oh, we need rocket road trip shirts I'm on a making custom shirts kick apparently. Yes, you is. Yeah. Oh my goodness Okay, uh, Orish Chris for half a clip says as homeowner would say this is a payload That's amazing get us into break. Okay We definitely need a break because we probably need to drink more caffeine knowing us caffeine. Yep. Yes And when we come back Jared is gonna have a fascinating interview with the everyday astronauts So stay tuned. We'll be right back Hello and welcome back to tomorrow now before we get started with our interview with Tim Dodd We are going to thank our patreon members of the escape velocity We're helping make this segment of this particular episode to give us ten dollars or more per episode But of course, we also can't forget our orbital members as well These folks give us anywhere from five dollars to nine dollars and ninety nine cents and they get free Worldwide swag store shipping and if you would like to help crowdfund the shows of tomorrow consider heading on over to patreon.com slash Tmro and I am joined now by Tim Dodd the everyday astronaut Tim It's so great to have you here and you're our first in studio guests, too Yeah, I made you guys build this whole thing. Yeah You're the reason that we built this so that the dud is not sleeping exactly me, too. So what do you know? Well, I'm back. Yes, and it's we're very glad to have you back because you've been very very busy I have been busy before we get before we get started talking about just how busy you've been Just for the folks who don't know you were on our show in last season I believe the 32nd episode wow of that season. So it was it was a bit while ago. Yeah And now that you're back on for people who don't know about the everyday astronaut Can you tell us a little bit about what everyday astronaut is? Yeah, absolutely. So So yeah, I often say I'm tim dodd, but I'm better known as the everyday astronaut, right? And the everyday astronaut has been this art project kind of gone rogue And now it's become a vessel of science communication and spaceflight advocacy And so for the last nine years though, I've been a professional wedding photographer And and that was great, you know, it took us kind of all around the world and a lot of cool opportunities But what my clients often didn't know is I actually had my space suit in the trunk of my car When I would show up to their weddings and after the wedding I'd like drive around looking for cool opportunities to shoot in a space suit And so since then it's become just kind of my It just keeps taking it more and more time more and more effort and it's Yeah, it's just kind of a passion project that I I can't stop doing and it keeps getting more and more ridiculous I guess yeah, so how did everyday astronaut actually get started because there's got to be an origin story to this It's like the superhero myth, you know, there's an origin story to well started with a coffee shop And a laptop okay and a website And me clicking on said website actually it was gizmodo Had had an article that said like you could own part of an Apollo spacecraft, you know And of course I got my attention like yeah, I could yeah wait. No, I can I'm not rich You know like it was like 48,000 something ridiculous, you know some insane price for like the control stick of a You know Apollo command module or something and but that got me on the website that had like 800 space things So I end up at some point buying a russian vmk like 14 three or something high-altitude flight suit that looks kind of a lot like the spatial pumpkin suits Yeah, the advanced crew escape system exactly people just assume, you know, it looks good enough for the yeah for the everyday person And I'm an everyday astronaut. So what do you do is the everyday astronaut? Um, it's ever changing. So that's the thing. So as I started off Only just doing like a series of photos, you know at very first and it slowly is just taking on more and more I'm just trying to I had originally kind of narrowed it down to like I was doing stuff on instagram pretty much only And then I was putting things on reddit and things like that, you know And that was doing well to help me get more instagram followers, but I realized I I got smart at the age of almost 32 and decided that I figured out Here's a little secret. Not everyone in the world is on instagram. Oh That's a big deal. That's a deal. I figured that out. I I have my crack team of uh Investigators figured that out for me and they said damn So I'm working really hard to produce other content cross content. I'm finally like Things like I had dragged my feet to even have twitter. I had dragged my feet to have a facebook page I had dragged my feet on youtube all these things and I really regretted that later on, you know And so finally I'm producing a lot of content on other things just to to make uh myself and and the mission of everyday Astronaut to inform everyday people with fun funny and factual content um I finally am like cross platform all over the place just Especially trying to reach the younger audience, you know Especially trying to reach elementary junior high high school kids that are still trying to kind of figure out what their passions are Yeah, and um, what's so cool about you is that you've done a lot Since our last interview So what is some of the stuff that you would like? What are some of the highlights or just you can even tell us everything you've done? Oh, it's the last time you were here. Well one time I ate Let's see it's okay. So since last time I was here, let me think about this So it was right after iac is when I came I was down at iac. Yes and in that whole thing I was I was actually here in california for a wedding. That's the first time I kind of met up with all you folks Yeah, and um and since then let's see. Oh man So I think some of the notable things is I finally like on on cyber monday I spent or like the day before cyber monday. I realized I still don't have a web store So I spent 13 hours coding my website to have a web store. Okay, that was a big thing There you go. People would ask for prints all the time. I am a photographer with With prints, you know and like all this artwork. Yeah, I didn't have a way for people to purchase them Yeah, and so I finally do have it. Here we go. Yeah. Yeah, there's your web store right there Everydayastronaut.com slash shop. I actually have all my pictures up So people can buy that I have like t-shirts and stickers and All that not stickers actually I have stickers in person, but not on my web store. Oh, so don't go there for stickers Okay, go to you go find me stickers. I'm the sticker store That's the only way to get them right now. You stalk me enough and you'll get a sticker Oh, that's a bad bad thing to do. Yeah, I don't know if I'd recommend that Uh, so yeah, so we did that and then um, yeah, I CNN did an article recently, which was great. Yeah, I read that that was I was like looking at the front page and it said Everydayastronaut. I was like wait a second. I know that guy. You do know that guy. Yeah. Well, that was great You know, I I've been excited that I've had just kind of some little snippets here and there that are continuing to kind of pick up steam and and I'm really trying to reach beyond Um, I I don't think a lot of my initial audience understood that I am a huge space white fan You know, like I I know this stuff inside and out It's not just me being silly with a space suit like yeah, especially for the past three or four years It's been me obsessing over this stuff. It's not, you know, some people are like, I love space and you're like, yeah what do you love aliens and like Uh, I I so love Saturn, you know, like that's what they say like you know what I mean They're like, oh, yeah What do you like but did you like the space shuttle and they like point to a Saturn 5 like yeah space shuttles are cool and you're like No, like come on bro. Yeah. Yeah, like do you even know what what that is space man. Do you even space? and so I think that's kind of been part of the thing is actually using Um, regurgitating information down for people because there's a lot of stuff like it's so funny So I'm doing public speaking now. So I'm going to schools. I'm going to different companies I recently spoke at a certain company that I love That I don't know if I can talk about But um, so I all that sort of stuff. So schools It's a lot of fun to to show elementary school kids and high school kids Show them what's happening in space flight. They don't even know they just think I still get the question Didn't NASA get canceled? Yeah, I hear that a lot too And it's I feel like it's just kind of been my duty I've kind of become a space evangelist of sorts, you know to go out there and get people excited about what's going on But there's a lot of stuff, you know, we all know this I think everyone here and watching this show we are the ones that know this And for some for whatever reason now, it's just kind of taken that's been my mission now It's like just get people excited. So as a science communicator What are some of the challenges that you have that you experience in doing that? Because I you know, I kind of work with it up at Griffith Observatory But what are some of the challenges that you deal with? Well, I'd say the real challenge right now is is obvious misinformation, you know and like conspiracy theories Yeah, and and having people not fall into the trap of I guess it would be it would be making sure that people are finding facts in a scientific manner You know being scientifically literate enough to be able to separate, you know, science and fiction You know or science and conspiracy or whatever. So I see a lot. I mean on instagram there's a huge wave of flat earthers and there's a huge wave of All you know all these anti science things and it's it's I'm trying to really I'm constantly changing how I what I do between ignore them Befriend them and be friendly and try to communicate with them in a you know, because Sometimes you don't know if those people are just being trolls or what but I figure it's better to at least try to be informative and try to Relate to them and actually, you know engage in a positive and and at least be that beacon of light that can actually You know help put the I don't know So it's kind of ever changing, you know what I mean? So That's probably the biggest struggle It's just how do you approach people that that they don't even start at the same page of like reality as the rest of us, you know They have they have Unaccepted fact, you know, they have chosen to ignore that and how do you even Begin a conversation with someone like that and do you even begin a conversation with someone like that? I'm kind of in the opinion that it is still important to engage with those people and still befriend them and still try to You know, yeah a really perfect example is there's one kid that That is now a friend of mine that that tunes in all the time to my live streams And his hashtag was something conspiracy and all this stuff was conspiracy And he started just asking just random questions Like do you believe in aliens all this stuff and instead of me ignoring him and being like dude And I'm well gladly answer things about aliens and stuff like that because yeah, it's a valid question Of course, that's like what's the biggest question probably of our entire human kind That is the ultimate question as an astronomer that is the ultimate question So why would I slough that person off and be like oh kid, you know, like it's not about alien You know what I mean because it is kind of about aliens But let's put that into context for them And so I started getting him excited about like well, you know Here's some of the things we're trying to do to listen and see you know if there is life out there And and now that kid, you know comes to me with spaceflight questions. Like hey, what you said something about Gemini What was it about how the Gemini capsule? They're trying to land it You know I tell him about like the parafoil on Gemini Yeah, just cool things like and he keeps coming back and all of a sudden his His name has changed on Instagram from something something conspiracy to I think it's like mercury probe or something, you know, like space history related and I'm like I think I helped him I helped him channel that energy of Of wanting to learn into something what I feel like is productive and at least That's just that's like the only good example of that, you know that I can think of but I think it's important not to ignore Those people looking for answers because the answers are more fascinating than the conspiracies, you know, yeah, so yeah Yeah, you know, what's so cool is that you you really work within an area known as steam Yes, so which there's stem. Yep science technology engineering mathematics and then there's steam Which I prefer. Yep, honestly, which is science technology engineering Mathematics or art and mathematics. Yeah, art and mathematics. Yes. So you've got You've got the art aspect of everything in there How important is the is putting the the a in stem to make it steam? I think for me personally, it's it's basically everything because I didn't do well in academia, you know, as far as Going to school. I wasn't a very good student I loved learning things But I had to do it attached to a drawing pad growing up, you know And now I do it through the lens of a camera, you know, like that's my expression and that and like I grew up playing music And so those are my outlets, you know, and so as someone that wants to still participate in Everything, you know that's going on I find that outlet to be as important for me as as anything else And for I think that the big thing is for there's a lot of kids out there that maybe think it's it's a This or that it's a I'm in band. I can't be this or I'm an artist I can't be into this this is these are different things and even You know when you get to it, I think athletics is another thing that's important to remember Like a could almost stand for athletics because a lot of people think oh, I'm a football player I'm a dumb football player. They get that that stigma. Yeah, I can't be a rocket scientist Well, why not? Why can't you be athletic? Yeah, and this you know, and so I think it's just that sense that this is for everybody you know education is education and How you get to that point and your path it might might come through a different avenue It might come through art might come through music It might come through movies might come through science fiction, you know And I always say that art can inspire science and science can inspire art, you know, they're very Back and forth and so I've just been doing for me. That's been my outlet, you know, and I want to make sure kids That are aligned with me too that are artists. They don't feel left out of the You know, they they understand they can participate too. Yeah, and and with that aspect of it too with the art involved in it there's there's a lot of sort of Outsider feelings, I guess with the with the way that that comes So what are some things that someone who maybe not is in the industry? Like in the actual spaceflight industry or like as an astronomer or something What are some things that they can do to actually help out? That industry because you you seem to be Very well adept at helping out spaceflight and getting the knowledge out there to everybody But you may not necessarily be someone considered in the spaceflight industry or however you want to put it Yeah, so I would say the biggest thing that people can do is not be It's I think especially with older generations It's uncomfortable to put yourself out there on social media. It's uncomfortable It seems conceded especially if you're someone that's been that you've been spending 11 years researching Some quantum quirk blah blah blah blah right the last thing you're probably going to do is go post about it on instagram The last thing you're probably gonna do about it is go mostly time. We don't right. It's not like oh Because it's it's I don't know you're operating in a different mode of operation almost of like Research research research and that that's the most important thing which it is But the other part of that I think is that's just as important in a different aspect is making people aware of The hard work and what you're doing and the cool things that you're doing. So even if it's You know, maybe it's not you talking, you know, like maybe it's not an astronomer Talking directly to the public but finding someone that you know, there's like people that paint cool things and like inspire Like directly working with other artists be like, hey, you should I'm working on this I would love to explain this to you as this where I've seen someone that took um They took the mathematical equation from something something something and it they turned it into music They took all the the numbers, you know, and they made they wrote sheet music out of it And then that became a big way to express what that scientist was working on, you know Like I don't know so making yourself yourself out there and available Um, but you don't have to be the artist, you know, so it's okay as a scientist Um, yeah, I it's just sort of this like there can be a really good relationship there And I think sometimes art and communicators Can should be connecting directly with scientists to even get it beyond to just to the Totally average person that it's so I always say too everyone loves space. They just might not know it Yeah, you know, and so you just have to get them at where they're at So if they're at the point of laughing at at poop jokes and someone in their underwear Yeah, and that's what I'm gonna do. I mean, NASA had a poop challenge. Yeah, so that's the perfect area for poop jokes Yep, and if it's if it's they think, you know, slapstick humor, if that's what it takes That's what that's where we go, you know, and um, I just think it's so it's it's important to go to where people And that's why I've I've been stretching my comfort with live streaming. I always thought that was um It feels narcissistic to me to be like holding in camera. Hey You know, yeah, and like what's up everybody like hello everyone. Welcome to my show It's so great right now If it still feels, you know quite ridiculous to me, but I realize it's not for me This is for the 13 year olds that are on instagram. This is for yes The you know the the college kids that are on twitch In between every single class, you know, this is for those people to reach them. It's not about Yeah, that's I think that's kind of the the mode switch that is oh That's only happened in the past like three or four months from it. I'm really realizing this isn't about what I'm comfortable with You know, it's about how do I reach a new audience? How do I reach new people in that sense, you know Yeah, and kind of talking about that. Um, not necessarily just reaching an audience, but actually reaching out to scientists Um an artist. What's how do you feel is the best way for like a scientist to approach an artist? Or what would be a really great way for an artist to approach a scientist? That's oh man. I would say Uh through your work So again, if you're a scientist and you are passionate about some about your work And you have seen someone else's work online on twitter on whatever on instagram Like there's a someone that makes these uh really cool Uh like drawings of spacecraft and they turn it into these whole comic series, you know, and and she's been talking to Directly to people because her work is out there Um, I think it's just a matter of having the courage to not only look for that stuff You know look for cool art out there or look for cool scientists Um, but then having the the courage to actually go and and contact them, you know through social media I think social media is a great connector of all these pieces, you know, so Yeah being able to like just have the courage to be like i'm working on this Would you mind checking it out because I get messages all the time and I try really really really hard to answer them all And even if it's a no, I will let them know why like thank you so much for this. I honestly don't have time for this It's nothing personal just that you know But it's I love when people do reach out because it's yeah, that's that's what it's about. That's what I'm here for That's what you guys are here for as communicators. You know, you are here to communicate So have the courage to reach out and if you're a scientist have the courage to reach out to an artist Artist have the courage to reach out to a scientist. You know So what are some upcoming projects that you're working on as everyday astronaut? I still have a shot. So I've said that Every day as I will stop doing every day. I start want to run out of ideas And I still have like a list of 20 pictures that I need to take so it's just kind of like a weekly thing And so I'm spending this year really trying to make it down to more and more launches to actually be live on site Which is hard because I live in Iowa. Yes, and that's a 2200 mile drive Which I often I tend to drive because of all the gear. Yeah, um involved and Uh, so I'm trying to do more of that more youtube content I've been doing um youtube videos that I'm trying to keep nice either I do. Oh, here's a fun one I'm I'm live streaming every photoshop. I do. Oh, so when I am photoshopping an everyday astronaut picture I 100% live stream that on twitch. Um, that's typically on thursdays uh thursday afternoons central And I try to like I I do I mean whenever I do a photoshop I do it live now and then I post that on youtube later Just as a again for away from me even to reach people that are interested in photoshop That have no interest in any of this stuff But then they hear the chat room and all the stuff talking about like hey, you should add this or this And we have conversations on screen about space flight, you know about whatever we're working on so That's definitely a big one Just more of that and then I'm really trying hard to produce nice tight simple little videos That people can show to kids and I'm I did this one recently about SpaceX landing rockets. I kind of called it SpaceX in my head It's like SpaceX meets the little engine that could and trying to tell it as a story That literally a seven-year-old could sit and just 100 engaged and and and take away from it as simple as humanly possible You know in a storytelling fashion. Yeah, so that's what I have been doing And what the next and so I've given myself 2017 and my wife has graciously Given me 2017 as well. We've talked about this a lot I'm not doing I'm only doing two weddings this year last year did 15 the year before I did 22 So it's I've been kind of ramping down and I'm I still don't know how every day astronaut is going to be a career I have no idea. I don't know. I have you know a web store that brings in like $50 a month Maybe you know and I have patreon, which is which is helping a lot Um, but it's not really a job yet But you know sometimes you got to just carve your own path and so I'm I'm I'm committing 2017 to just doing everything I possibly can and I've so far been working like 10 to 12 hour days most of time you know, so it's not like I'm Even though I'm backed off on my other work and focusing on this it's still a lot of hard work Yeah, it's just sort of seeing what sticks sort of in a sense in 2017 the hard work's paying off seeing the everywhere Where you've been so that's pretty and hopefully it just keeps going the idea is you know Perpetuate if if one thing happens, you know that leads to the next that leads to the next The more you can do out there the more you can put out there You know just kind of keeps going so if people want to get more information on you, where can they go? Yeah, so everydayastronaut.com has a nice like simple write-up of everything. That's where my shop is So my shop my kind of a little video about me Some of my other just everything pretty much there and from there you can find links to patreon You can find links to my instagram to my youtube channel. Um, it's everything in my life is Whatever you're trying to do slash everyday astronaut Except for twitter because of course twitter's handle limit is like 11 characters or something Yes, so on twitter i'm urday astronaut That works sort of they'll definitely work for the high school crowd. Yeah, i'm super that was my i'm going for the the gangsters Yeah, well there you go. The og's the og's. Yeah, i'm trying to reach that crowd specifically Excellent everywhere else youtube everyday astronaut patreon everyday astronaut twitch.tv Everyday astronaut everything is nice and simple except for twitter. All right now i gotta ask these Final five questions because we just ask these final five questions to every guest absolutely general questions No, right or wrong answer when you were last on we didn't have this You had one of them. Oh, we had one of them. Okay. We had one. So now we've got my answer may have changed Okay. Oh, okay. Well, let's go ahead and get this started moon or mars first I'm 100 in the direction of whichever happens first is the best. Okay Because we just got to keep moving, you know, whatever gets us out of low earth orbit. Okay That's 100 my answer sounds good. Would you go? Not i'll wait until it's like super routine until it's like Hey, i'm getting on this cruise ship real quick. I'll be back in a week mom, you know, like, you know, no big deal But at this point it's still pretty. Yeah, i'll wait. I'll wait till it's like a little too dangerous. Yeah I'm not like an explorer. I don't want to be a total tourist. Okay, you know, that's a way to work it Yeah, so When do you think humans will first land on mars? I think I think By 2030 it might be december 21st 2029 But I really think that Footprints will be on mars by 2030. Okay, because I feel like it's a big push. It is there's like it's it's it's happening There's a big motivation to do it too. So it's gonna happen. Yeah. Yeah When do you think humans will set foot on the moon again? I think in like I'm thinking early 2020s. I think like china's getting close. I think I think china's gonna Put someone on the moon by 2021 or two I think potentially Depending on what this administration ends up doing they have a chance to have The whole you know a whole other moon landing again again in four or five years So if they want, you know, they have the capability sls and you know, falcon heavy and some other hardware that That could do that. So they just needed Say it make it happen and it could make it so four or five years. Yeah And the final one why space Because space is universal spaces for everybody, you know, it's kind of that sense that As soon as you get off the planet, you realize that is all of us. There's no borders. There's no boundaries. There's no You know race. It's just earth And so we're all in that together spaces for every single human to explore, you know And it's the great combiner and I think my favorite thing still is that literally will get me teary-eyed is thinking about how um You know like Apollo and Soyuz first docked even though we're still like in the midst of being enemies, you know, that's what space is It's the unifiers the great unifier. So yeah, that's why it's universally loved by everybody. Yes. So, yep. Yeah All right. Well tim, thank you so much for coming on the show today. We appreciate it Yeah, I was especially coming back again and updating us and letting us know all the new stuff that you're doing It just seems like you are on your way to making it It's gonna be pretty awesome watching this journey with you. I'll come back anytime in town because I love you guys I think you should and you guys keep up the good work. Yeah. Well, thank you and we're gonna go to break As we go to break we're gonna show your video your spacex video for break So let's go ahead and go to break and when we come back after the break comments from you Thanks from last week's show Give a huge shout out to all of the patrons of tomorrow We're talking to make this specific segment of this episode happen using these skip velocity members They've contributed ten dollars or more to this specific episode We've also got our horrible little subscribers that contributed five dollars or more to this specific episode then suborbital The people who've contributed two dollars and fifty cents or more They're going to get access to after dark as soon as it is available on demand all the hangouts and all their other Cool features there and of course our ground support crew These are the people who've contributed between one dollar and two dollars and 49 cents for more information On how you can help crowdfund the shows of tomorrow to bring you nifty shows week after week Head on over to patreon.com Slash t m r o all right last week We had a Ralph from odyssey. I use the CEO of odyssey and talking about Some space based communication options, which i'm a little sad I wasn't able to be here for because that's one of those things that i'm really really interested in Specifically like t-drift replacements the tracking relay data satellite system And then the deep space network, you know kind of creating a private company for things like that And you know getting these communication networks up in space So that we can you know when we put humans on mars, we have a common network for humans on mars Because you're gonna want your internet and things like that. So that was last week's show capcom. Give me some comments I'm not gonna lie. I have not actually seen any of these comments yet So we are all going to like as you guys are watching. We're all going to see them for the first time Yes Like this one. Okay, uh Here's what comes off of youtube. This is from night lurk. It says, uh, DARPA We created a satellite. They can intercept other satellites and clobber them to death with their Mechanic fists We'll just call it a servicing satellite, but then it's up there to fix things Sure I just I have this image of the like a satellite Oh, so you know I have more of it What was that? Yeah, what was the robot? Like the battle box Battle box That's what I have Good good. Good. That's hilarious. Uh quick question of what this is on your shirt caffeine. Perfect There you go. And someone in the chat room asked what engine was on tim's shirt and that is an f1 Yay All of the questions answered. Thanks for your oh, no wait a mountain in space and a mouse in space All of the things. Okay The next comment also comes off of youtube says the moon is square Although we'll hopefully keep getting extensions when they decide to end the international space station of the planet Always seems to be deliberately turn it into the most expensive firework ever Why not use the last fuel to boost it as much as possible and let it sit there in space and on ebay Or would it be more fair and i'm a son anyway until someone buys it I wonder if ilan or jeff or even richard would have a use for it that way governments could get a 0.1 percent return on their astronomical investment, but then they would have the right to uh They would have the right in a contract to return if they ever wanted Maybe even continue to collect a percentage of the future profits not being cynical. I bet they would never be that logical Actually, I don't think it has anything to do with that in any way shape or form As I recall and correct me if I'm wrong and I know you will Uh that the international space station isn't just like floating up there like hanging out not doing stuff I mean, I'm not talking about the inside. I'm talking about the outside that it's not just floating there That's a continually ever so slightly falling back down to earth And you need somebody or something up there to kind of keep boosting it up back into the orbit That's correct So in order for our humans and all of our experiments to not be the most expensive firework ever It's an interesting way of putting that Uh, they there's active work that needs to be done to keep it sort of afloat if you will uh, and so When we when wait we they whoever whatever happens to the international space station When we're done with it or we continue to make it better or bigger or do something else or maybe go to mars um That there was there needs to be a decision made about what to do with it You can't just like keep it there. Like I said, it won't just float right So in their comment they mentioned using the last of the fuel to boost it as much as possible So that you don't have that drag that brings it back right so it could stay up there maybe 20 30 40 years until we want it The reason we won't do that is a safety issue If you you know if we're if you've got this huge football field sized thing Floating in space that someday is going to crash down you want to control that crash And you want to make sure that it crashes over the ocean where there's no populated areas And you're going to need fuel to do that So when the time comes to retire the space station, we're going to want to do a controlled re-entry safely safely controlled re-entry to destroy the the space station now there is There has been talk of like well, why don't we just move it to like a lunar orbit or something like that? Couple things to keep in mind here. Uh, first it's not designed for that Right, it doesn't have thrusters on board capable of sending it to a lunar orbit So we'd have to attach something capable of doing that and that is not just a simple like just drop a rocket engine on the space station No, I mean there'll be a lot of engineering that goes into that second the space station's old now. All right, and um, it's it's Musty gross the oldest the oldest components are almost two decades old. Yeah, so it's it's gross Yeah, you know, there's no place It's just gross and you know, you hear stories of like mirror when they were uh, Bringing that back down and there was like mold behind the walls and it was just it was nasty I'm not saying there's mold behind the walls in the space station, but I'm also saying I'm not saying that there's not mold I'm just saying, you know, it's got a little little little aged It might be time for uh, something new and shiny and awesome That's not to say we need to de-orbit it now But you know when it does when it is time to bring the space station down It it doesn't need to be controlled. It doesn't need to burn up That's how that is and is that like having to replace your mattress every 20 years Yeah, yeah, kind of right and then you like you pull back the covers of your mattress and you're like Nasty, I mean, I'm not like that because my mattress is pristine That's because you just bought it, of course No, that's because you sleep on the couch. That's because I sleep on the couch. Yeah All right, next up capcom. Oh This comment also comes off of youtube. This is is from rye on ham. Hi rye as opposed to Hamam rye. There we go. I see what you did that Ben didn't for a second. He was like, oh rye in got it. Anyway, uh, did mr. E we address the encryption and security of their system I would be interested if this is military or nsa grade um national security Well, no administration administration. I was like office does not stand for I don't did the did you guys talk I don't national security agency. Um, he did say that uh, he was that they had quite a few different kinds of customers and that they wanted to be Something along the lines of like a dial tone in space almost like a uh an internet service provider But for anybody, right? So I imagine that they had did he address that? I don't actually I don't think we actually did I don't think it's relevant. I think that's a layer too high, right? So if he's just providing the bits back and forth the encryption would happen on the ground You know, he did say something along those lines of like, we don't know what your stuff is We kind of don't care. We're just going to make sure it gets from here to there Yeah, I don't the the encryption happens at a layer above this. So They're they're sure it can be encrypted. I I'm making assumptions here, but I was assuming it can be encrypted It can be in the clear. It's whatever you decide to do Yeah, I was gonna say I assume the customer is the one who encrypts that'd be correct So whatever they decide to do with their signal. It's just it's just radio repeaters, right? So Is it's whatever you want. It's just a bunch of radio waves moving back and forth. All right. It is radio Why it's not like yeah, it's radio. Yeah, yeah Thank you national security agency. I don't always screw up on the eight Okay, next comment comes off of youtube. This one is stand for liberty In the near future when people are living and working in sys lunar space That's the space around the moon. Okay. Thank you. Uh, space junk may very well become a valuable resource I imagine people controlling space junk and salvaging it for its raw materials think sanford and sudden space Maybe that is a such an old reference. Does anybody even know what that is? What is that? Sanford and I actually don't know what's in front of that. That's because you're too young. That's the problem. Anyway, um, wait, wait, you know what sanford and sun is, right? Yeah, okay Okay, I assume it's a sitcom. Yes. Okay. Hang on. I just have to know hang on. I'm just I'll be all right. All right You guys Everyone here know what sanford and sun is Yes. Yes. No. Oh I love it So I have to go through the airlocks. Hang on. There we go. Most people do here that are live in our studio And some don't and that is kind of okay. It's kind of funny when you think about uh, I feel as though nearly every Um, sort of slightly more gritty sci-fi show that I've seen lately There's always somebody who's collecting some sort of space junk whether legally or illegally I don't know. I just feel like it's always built into sci-fi kind of stuff. I get it But the stuff is moving really fast. Um, it's expensive at the moment Yeah, I just I don't see the benefit of doing that as opposed to just mining it where you're at I guess Uh, maybe I I'm not seeing it. I mean, there might there might be a reason for it someday I just I guess if you're going to the moon Just grab what you need from the moon if you're going to mars just grab what you need from mars You don't need to try to catch this little thing in space going 22 000 miles an hour Exactly. Yeah, I suppose but I I mean, I guess if we figure out how to mine asteroids we could also figure out how to Yeah, but the relative the relative velocity of of when you get to the asteroid is Yes, but okay, so The amount of material at the asteroid is what substantially more right there's that there's an asteroid we want to visit that's worth 10 quittrillion dollars or whatever it is Or 10 000 quittrillion dollars or some ridiculous number. Yeah. Yeah And also the purity too Yes, that material is that material is much more pure than you would find here on earth space pirates Space pirates. I feel like that's yet another shirt. It's space pirate space pirates. Ah That's hilarious. Yeah In any case, uh, you like a space pirate shirt like a like a line art face of me going. Yeah No, let's not do that. Uh, yeah, and it's an interesting idea, but I I just yeah, I don't see The other than just clearing up space junk, which I think is just a thing that we should do You know what I'm saying? I guess yes. I mean there's ways to do it from the ground with big lasers There's there's also the variety of materials So if you go to an asteroid asteroid or whatever and you're mining the metal that comes off of it Maybe it's conductive. Maybe it's not. Is it as good as copper? Could you use the copper and a defunct? satellite to make something new There's plastics. There's composites. There's Gold sorts of all sorts of materials that you put into all these vehicles that you could then separate and use to make other things in other vehicles Yeah, I mean I guess I I don't think it's to agree with that I guess what I disagree with is the amount of effort required to go get those things Is greater than the amount of effort to figure out how to just manufacture those on the body that you're already on Be at the moon the body that is not earth be at the moon mars wherever So maybe maybe not but you know, there are certain things that you're not going to be able to recycle very easily such as carbon composites You know reusing those and other I get I mean you can to a point, but anyhow yes You know, I think I think the real takeaway is instead of making space junk. Let's just not put up space junk anymore Let's just recover everything. Yeah, let's not throw our rockets away. Let's just recover all of the stages Let's recover all of the things. Let's just not leave stuff in space That's the best way to do this way to do it. That's that's the way Don't litter people Stop littering or you leave or you leave everything in space and have a sanford and sun's reboot Well, actually leaving everything in space I'm trying to remember the theme song. I am too and i'm only coming out with benny hill, which is really terrible You all know what benny hill is right Yes, okay. Yeah, I did just get a little scared there. You're right. You're right. Yackety sex Yeah, that's right. They're saying um I forgot. All right. Anyway, okay moving on cool. So next comment actually comes off of facebook. You guys what? What we actually take comments from all over the place actually and we've got uh, um, I forgot who's working on our facebook page. Cool. I'm a terrible human being probably yes Uh space kyle. Yeah Working on our facebook page and he's doing a fantastic job because I suck at facebook So thank you space kyle for taking care of all of our facebook needs so that I don't have to You suck at most social things. I suck at all social things in person and online all of them. Wow all of them. Yeah, all right Okay, the comment off from facebook comes from nick santos saying excited to see the planet labs planet constellation with 88 satellite watching soon This is a great demonstration of the power of nanosets daily imaging of the earth at three to five meter resolution Where's it 3.5? Uh, this is a nice option since quick birds orbit decayed or yeah decayed in 2015 I think i'm going to refuse to call them planet. I think i'm just gonna go much like I refuse to demote pluto I'm not going to call planet labs planet because it's not correct So just because they say this is a thing that's correct doesn't mean it's right Well, I mean if planet labs is a planet then so is pluto. So there boom. Yeah, sonny how? Yep I win. Anyway, next comment comes off of youtube. I'll cheer things up a good comeback Hey, actually I'm gonna say this. Yes last week. I actually was at a lecture that dr. Alan stern gave yes And he might have changed my mind Oh my god Oh my god We need to get into after dark. Yes that last comment last comment. Oh, I'm so excited I'm so excited Does laughing too hard to press buttons apparently So this last comment comes off of youtube appropriately named add dude It says your format works for non-space gigs up until now it did note that I didn't scream it even though it was in all caps Uh, love how you guys keep improving and growing Ha ha, uh, I've been with you since just before the space big cast to tomorrow change This episode was one of the first I convinced my girlfriend to watch with me. Hello girlfriend Uh, she has no interest whatsoever in space and when your guests claim that everyone finds space interesting It gets excited about it. She had a good laugh. Don't we all though? I mean because we've all met somebody who's not super interested in space I should keep my comments still after the comment what she loved was how excited each of you gets about their field of interest And she just loves carry in with an E. Thank you. Keep it up. She did this. You didn't see it on camera. She went I did because I was super excited about it. Uh, yeah We have been married for way too long way too long. So uh, I think uh, so Pointing out a specific part of this which is, um, uh Not every, you know, everyone's interested in space and then she had a good laugh I actually do think that at a very deep rooted level everyone Like 99.9999999 percent of the planet is in fact interested in some aspect of space Maybe it hasn't been presented to you in a way that you find interesting Right, or maybe you haven't found the thing that does interest you but there are there is so much amazing and incredible stuff out there There is something that interests everyone Everyone in space for me. It's the launchers for you. It's the astronomy. I actually can't speak to you I think it's a little bit of everything for you I yeah, I get interested in the stories right the stories like tim dad was talking about Athletics maybe a can sometimes stand for athletics and somebody's in the chat room mentioned Oh, yeah, john glenn played football the human side of space, right? There's yeah Yeah, all of those sorts of data is is the history of space right like the challenges and the triumphs that we had to get to To get to where we're at. That's where data is particularly the identifies with the arrow of aerospace. I've noticed Yes, yes, absolutely. Everyone has their thing Uh, but that's just the what I just described is just the tip of the iceberg. So what we try to do at poorly is uh Um, expose everyone to maybe a slightly different part of space or something that interests you And if you're not interested in space or if you know someone who claims that they're not interested in space That just means that they haven't found it yet. They haven't found that thing that really excites them out in the cosmos But it is they are waiting for them. So rather than mock them or rather than belittle them I encourage everyone to help them find that thing. This is this is like a motivational speech now Help them find that thing go ahead. There's enough space for all of us. There's enough space for everyone That just warms the the heart but help them find it help help them find that thing because Using this phraseology again in the show all ships rise with the tide the more people we can get excited about space And exploring the cosmos and going out there and expanding the reach of humanity The more we'll be able to do and the better we'll become as a species because I do firmly believe that the more people We can put into space Looking down on our frail planet from space The the better humanity will become because we will we will lose borders We will lose the idea of segregation and and all of these we will lose our differences And we will all just go wow. We are all on this small frail planet and we will all start to bond together. I know that was a little You're right. I'm sorry. You deserve the box. Yeah, go ahead and come on the box This is my this isn't quite the soap box though. I mean we do have the one out there Okay, thank you. You know, it really annoys her is when I do this and tap like if I tap On that note, I'd like to thank everyone so much for watching after dark is up next We are going to be talking about before we Let's not do learn before we go into um I'm doing in after dark where we do the promo piece coming up We are going to be talking to Jared at length about how Pluto is now a planet again That's coming up for those of you who are our Suborbital and above members you're going to get access to that right away for everyone else who'd be available in four weeks Thank you so much for watching. We will see you next week What was that?