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Yn ymwysg yng Nghymru, me, Ped ac Dave. Roedd nid o bos o ddau. We are very much Hollywood today, zero bush. It's been a lovely quiet week. Do you know what? Yeah. Some parts of it felt like no one Mary Poppins when they skip into the painting and there's the dancing with the penguins. That's how I've felt some of these days. Just I've gone full dick van dych, you know. Went full dick that way. Jumped on America around the horse. All that was just like a dream sequence. Yeah. Not until it could possibly spoil. I mean, to be fair, that dick carry on till Friday morning, I would suggest. That was how it felt. Dave, I mean, we done this podcast last week. We were all in a good place. We just won a crystal palace. We were chilled. Things were looking up. And then Friday happened. Yeah. I mean, well, was it not Thursday, though, head where you were sort of talking on one of your shows about how relaxed it was to be in Evertonian? In fact, maybe, you know, you couldn't even remember the last time you felt this relaxed and carefree in a blue shirt. And then, as you say, Baz, Friday happened. I was sat exactly where I'm sat now and I was on my computer, which I'm talking to you now on my phone was on the desk and it was fine. And I think I was halfway through writing an email and my phone beeped. And I just saw. Fuck. Yeah. Yeah. Very much so. Fuck. Yeah. And and I just suddenly it was like the hot, you know, and it was like the whole world stopped for me. Everything stopped. Nothing was important. The email never got sent. I found it actually in my drafts on Sunday. So, yeah, not the world just stopped spinning. And I was just in a state of shock to be honest with you. I think like like all of us and this cloud that had been hanging over us had arrived, but it was a much bigger cloud than any of us expected. That's for sure. And yeah, I was just likewise in a state of shock for the rest of the day and indeed over the weekend. I actually went for a beer on Friday night and I felt like having a t-shirt on saying, no, I don't want to talk about it. I figured that most people would want to ask me my opinion by which point by five o'clock I was already sick of giving it. There we go. Climate change does that brings a big cloud from nowhere. I was driving into the studio and received a phone call and I'm driving in and I very much was dancing with the penguins in Dick Van Dyck's thing that's like butterflies were flying around the car. It was great. And then the phone went and I thought, oh, answered it and. Got it to disgrace, isn't it? And you know, when you're trying to process that first thing and I was thinking, what does it actually mean? What to disgrace? And then I went, sorry, what? And you went to 10 points and then obviously it doesn't take very much to just go, oh, what? And then very much like you're coming here, coming in and we started to, well, yeah, we had the phone call with the club first and then we had to go on live and very much so, Dave, it was. It was just like that, sickly feeling. Although ironically, there was all so bad. At least we know what we're having to deal with now, because there had been like hanging. But is that I mean, perlet me ask you, is this the worst thing a Premier League football club has ever done because that's the punishment that's been given? Well, clearly, no, no, no, it isn't, is it? Clearly isn't the worst thing a Premier League club's ever done. I don't know what the worst thing a Premier League club's ever done, but no, when you're just like, you know, I don't know, it's just. I'll tell you what the worst thing is a Premier League club, Dave. It was it was the six clubs. Yeah, you'd try to completely destroy the entire fabric of English football to line their own pockets by breaking away and making their own super league. And actually effectively got slapped on the wrist for being naughty boys. That is far worse than anything. And that's the thing that pisses me off. I think the most is that by comparison, the severity, and that's the word of the of the sanctions against us. Is that when you look at it, it's just completely. Unjust and just doesn't make any sense compared to other examples. I think I mean, I don't think we've we haven't absolved evidence of evidence of broken then set of rules. But I think where I struggle a little bit is there was nothing in black and white for this. For this. So there's nothing in black and white. There's nothing. This is a a trumped up charge. I understand FFP and all that kind of thing. But even like how they got the points, they haven't even said how they got the points. They dismissed the idea of the Premier League's tariff system and I've come up with their own system. And I'm lost for words, to be honest, the whole thing is just. It just feels like I don't know just when you just see a real injustice and you can't you can't express, you can't get it over to the people who are just like, well, you've broken the rules. And you're like, have we really broken the rules? Is it as they said, is it any worse than what other people done? Oh, yeah, but that was something else. And it's just like you can't get that across to people. Yeah, some some there's a lot of media on our side. But there's others who are like, well, you know, you broke the rules and you did this and you did that. Did we though? Really did we? Did we do anything really? Like, you know, when you was listening to something last night, I was like, we're in an era where Premier League football clubs are encouraged to spend. We've got we've got rolling 24 hour news that all day when it's transfer deadline day, it's like encouraging the spending of money, like just love it. It's part of like their entertainment or they spent billions that all this summer billions and billions of being spent. And you're just like, so this has just been actively encouraged. This is something that you've wound the fans up to the point of like, if you're not spending on deadline, dating is some kind of it's not successful or whatever. It's fail. Yeah. And yeah, a football club goes over by 19 and a half million. And it's like, and I know it's more. And I know we're trying to get it down below 19 and a half million and said they had reasons why. But I just that's the thing. It just feels like all these teams with all this wealth and all this power and throwing it round and you don't have that power. And maybe you don't have that wealth to back up what you're spending. Suddenly it's 10 points. And I'm just like, no, it's not. It's absolute nonsense. It's absolute nonsense. It's two players in a game being sent off. One gets a three match ban because he plays for Liverpool and one gets a 10 match ban because he plays for Evan. And I know that's it. That's the differences. It's just I'm just. But football to me is just it's just dying on its ass because of stuff like this. It really is Dave, you know when you look like if you look at what Everton have done or sorry, look at the mitigating circumstances around it, right? And I'm not asking. I'm not saying Everton should have been led off because of these. But you know when you put things like building a stadium which you've ever would have took a big loan from a bank at an interest rate of say, whatever, say it was 10% saddle the club with that every year. If ever would have took the full the full loan for the stadium, this wouldn't discharge would never have got anywhere near what it did. So Everton have effectively been punished for trying to not saddle the club or far up my sherry for not saddle the club. Then you throw in a global pandemic which I know every club don't get me wrong. Every club was affected. I'm not saying it's just evidence. I'm just adding it on. And then you throw in a war in Ukraine which is cost evidence. Not only 30 odd million pound a season in sponsorship but 220 million in name and rights, which is a huge figure. And especially when you see a ruling yesterday that basically said you can now continue sponsorships like that and get more money off it, which helps the likes of Newcastle and stuff. And when you throw those together all in the melting pot, do you think that should be taken into consideration that all of those events in isolation are unique to a football club but three of those one on top of the other has had a big impact on a football club's finances? Or do you believe, well, in all fairness, the rules are there. So, you know, how do you look at that? Cos I just think there's three huge events at any time. But when you put one on top of the other it's going to have some effect, isn't it, on finances surely? My view on it is that common sense has to prevail and all of those factors are huge and you have to look at all of the things which have culminated. As you say, we're not saying that the club hasn't broken the rules and we're not saying that the club hasn't been poorly run for years now and got ourselves into mess because clearly we have done, you know. But yeah, I think especially given the fact that the, you know, the overspend was largely to do with the stadium which obviously is redeveloping part of North Liverpool and is going to create industry and jobs, obviously. And it's a good thing for the city as a whole. That wasn't taken into account, as you say. And then other factors such as the pandemic and the war in the Ukraine and the war in the Ukraine obviously then knackered the financial relationship with Usmanoff, which was made for the stadium or the naming rights for the stadium. I think when you look back on it now, though, it was quite obvious that the Premier League with all the noise that was coming out of them into the press in the last four or five weeks saying that, you know, it was looking like Evan were getting a 12-point deduction. They were really pushing for that, really, really pushing for that. And it was, you know, it did unnerve and alarm us all, you know. We've talked about this. We didn't necessarily know what was coming, but it was alarming in terms of the rhetoric that was coming out of the Premier League. And then, you know, it now transpires that, obviously, they're sort of protecting their own backs because they don't want to be independently regulated and they're trying to prove that they can keep their own house in order and how do they do that? Well, they have to make some kind of landmark case and pick on a club which they feel, you know, won't fight back, watch this space, you know. And then also, when you look into the people who were involved in that supposed independent committee, and I don't know how much you said about this already in the last week, but in terms of the personnel that were there, in terms of David Phillips, Casey, and also this guy Nick Igo as well, and actually their previous involvements in situations, shall we say? That's a safe word, isn't it? Absolutely, yeah. They were involved in situations at other clubs which would therefore mean, and I'm being very careful what I say here, it would therefore mean that they would perhaps not be the best people to sit on an independent board when they have got history and potentially a conflict of interests, some may suggest, in this matter. You know, and that, well, fuck it, I'm going to stop being on the fence, that's a disgrace. I mean, it's an absolute disgrace if that's allowed to happen. I mean, though, one of those fellas is acting for compensation for the other club, and a rule was passed before this even started for him to get them round the table and say, this goes against everything, you've got the case for the compensation. How can that be allowed to happen? That, see, even if Phillips and I go are acting in with good faith and looking at it objectively and this is one fella who represented Leeds for a long time when they were having problems and the other fella was involved in the Carlos Teves thing. If you're acting, you know, choosing an independent panel, which quite clearly wasn't independent because the Premier League had to say you was on it. And they'd already made up their mind what they wanted to happen as well as we just said before. Exactly, so if you looked and went, OK, well, let's just say people are going to put two and two together and get five if it was purely in good faith. You would make sure that none of the people on that panel had any affiliation with any football club, wouldn't you? Really, you'd go, let's get someone from whatever, whatever, whatever. Right? Arsenal Man City and Man United are going to threaten. Let's get three of them, whatever, and do it. I would just, if it would have been me, would have been reluctant if I was trying to pick a panel. I would have been keeping all of those little side stories away from it if it wants to pure independence. But I can't help thinking that as well as that, putting stuff out in the media, leaking it to the media that the Premier League wants at 10 points, that to me is prejudicing the case. Now, they could turn round and go, well, we're independent and we don't listen to... Of course you listen to it. Of course you do, once it's out there. You can't do it in a lot of legal cases when stuff are in court. You can't be leaking stories to the press about people where the jury may well... It doesn't really matter. It's not even about whether it was leaked or not. That's what they're requiring. Sorry, that's what they... Recommendation. That was the recommendation. Now, when I opened the press, it never got older at first. Please, that a recommendation is 12 points. You shouldn't be recommending. You shouldn't be recommending anything. You should just say you've got an open book to say. To do what you want to. Absolutely. And if they were truly independent, then they would be able to make up their own mind. I mean, I've had loads of stuff through on this from various different people, one which is mainly being my cousin Paul, who has been providing me with all sorts of information. But yeah, you know, there's loads over here, but I'll read you this one bit. The lawyer who represented Leeds United is appointed by the Premier League to head the commission in the case the Premier League brought against Everton. That lawyer chaired a case brought by Leeds United and other clubs against Everton. That lawyer decided that if the commission he is heading upholds the complaint against Everton, that same commission may wish to award compensation to one or more of the applicant clubs. You know, it's a nonsense. It's just that. It does feel, it feels like, it just feels like as you said, that it was already preempted what was going to happen. And the fitters would like as you're saying, I just can't get over the fact that a point deduction can be wasted in administration, can be wasted in going bust, leaving lots of people out of pocket. I can't understand how it can be. I can't understand how a system brought in to stop clubs from going bust could essentially send those busts, if we had the knock on effect and obviously all the worst case scenarios happened, it could send Everton bust. And that to me, how can that make, how does that make any sense? And now people go, well, you've got to be punished and you cheated and all this and it's like, well, no. Did we really cheat or have we just made massive mistakes or have we just got a really inept football club with a really inept board and a really inept owner that we've been all telling you about for the last three years anyway? So it's not like it's a major shock to us. We know how bad these people are, when they're not cheating, they're inept. That's the thing. I mean, look at the results on the pitch. I mean, clearly we have not bought any kind of footballing advantage at any point in years. No. So, I just think that the whole, I think that the whole thing stinks. Sorry, and the other thing as well just on that point is the fact that Everton have participated and complied with this whole investigation process all the way along. They've been open and transparent, possibly to their detriment, now looking at it when you look at, in comparison with other clubs who seemingly have not been quite so open and transparent. And it just feels to me that whatever Everton did or didn't do in terms of this whole investigation, the mind was already made up. The mind was made up of the Premier League and the Bullshit Independent Commission who were puppets or they have other conflicts of interest. You know, nonsense. With the scapegoat, aren't we? They've been there. We are the scapegoat for all of these things, all converging at once, whether it be Manchester City's 115 charges, whether it be an independent regulator, all these things converged. Obviously, I think probably the Premier League have probably just got annoyed with us as well because they see the amount of trouble. We've sort of caused them as well in terms of the way we've run our club and the way Mishiri's been. But we are the scapegoat for all these things. We are the scapegoat for all this. It feels like it's all, you know, it's targeted and they probably look at it going, no one will actually care. People think we've done our job. And yeah, that's a myth. I think that's where the anger comes from. And again, the disproportion of the 10 points is just baffling. It's absolutely baffling. And each day, though, the thing seems to get worse as people are uncovering how they got to this. What it's done, it's just... Well, I suppose that's the positive thing, is that Everton fans, just on their own, the very nature of them, is they're like a slew saddie. And they should, hopefully, all this stuff that's being uncovered and coming out might help the appeal. I mean, the idea of when you say, where did you get the 10 points? I don't know. Well, didn't the Premier League give you a tariff? Well, he did, but we completely ignored it. So where did you get the 10 points from? Well... And it's come out that there was a real change to do that 10 points and that thing will never be used again. There was a special thing just for Everton. So all that. That's where, and again, like Dave just said there, Everton's naivety in all this is being... Open. Open and not tying them in, not like Manchester City did. And just getting a really good lawyer in and just going, well, just fuck you for years. And almost questioning the legitimacy of it. Is that what City are doing? Well, City are literally saying it's illegal now, profit and sustainability rules. So... And what the Premier League make you do is illegal. Which I've said for years, I don't see how they can tell you what you can and can't do in terms of getting money into you, how money comes into your football club, if you're trying to keep the club sustainable. And City are basically saying that now and what they can... So we'll see what happens with them, but obviously it feels to us like we've been hammered. Dave, do you think? Just finally on this then. Do you think that with the appeal and with the amount of, like the spotlight on it now, with MPs, I think 12 of the 16 Liverpool MPs currently have signed the letter. I think there'll be the other four will join in as well. Obviously Steve Rotherins wrote a letter to Richard Masters in the Premier League. Ian Bairn got the early day motion or whatever it was called in place. It's going to be heard in Parliament. There's huge outcry. Do you think this may well end up reducing evidence points deduction? Realistically no. Oh, OK. If I'm awfully honest. I mean, I hope that you're right. I personally don't think it will. OK. I think that it will be the 10 points. And but on the positive note, I think we get out of it. Yeah, you know, yeah. I think that as many people have said and we said before, if there was ever a time to have a 10 point deduction, this would be the season to do it and it galvanises a club. The fans, players, everybody associated and they fight all the way because the only thing we have to achieve this season, apart from the Carabao Cup, obviously, is avoiding relegation. That's it. And if we do that, which I believe we will, then we've done everything. And that's with the assumption that the 10 point deduction remains. Maybe it doesn't, you know, maybe it gets reduced. And if so, then fantastic. But in my own mind, I'm not... Banking on that. I'm not banking on it in any way. That's not an option for me. I'm looking at where we are now and the fixtures ahead of us. And do you know what, Ashley? I mean, I quite fancy... I quite fancy the fixtures that we have between now and Christmas. All things considered. You know, because first game after this, United at Home will be a bear pit. Orest, away, winnable. Newcastle at Home again. I mean, with the home crowd, who knows, Chelsea at Home as well. Burnley, fuck them, right? Away on the 16th. Obvious reasons. Olam at Home. The one where I think that, you know, I don't see us getting anything espers away. Up until then, I think there's points in all of those. Absolutely. And there's a reason to fight for all of them. You know, these are big clubs, coming to Goodison or other people who we also want to do for other reasons. You know, I quite like that run. When we perhaps need it most. There, absolutely. So, you know. We're all going to be in it, aren't we? But it's not like we've had the debate put out in the last couple of years, but it's been obviously fractured in ways. But at least everyone's in it together now. And as you said, if you just have to look at it and think, well, the 10 points it's taking off is, let's get ourselves out of it. And then if we get handed points back and that takes us up further up the league, then so be it. But it's just good that there's so much noise about it as well. And you mentioned there, like politicians and stuff, a lot of journalists on our side. People have just got to keep making noise about this. Don't let it settle down. I don't think it will. Just let, just every, obviously every home game is going to be mad away games, you know, our fans are going to make their feelings known. But I think it's important people on the outside who are Evertonians or who are not Evertonians make their feelings known as well. This is unjust. It's fact, you know, and I know a lot of people won't see it like that on the outside, but it really is. And so we just have to keep making noise about it and don't let it settle down. Absolutely. Make sure that asterisk is next to the points total and say, you know, that's not real. That's not real. And there's pause for the players perspective on John Dyche, the ring of form. If they've won four games, they've won six at the last nine. That's the form you carry on there, isn't it? And I think, you know, in a potentially over romantic way, I think that, you know, the uphill battle that they now find themselves and obviously the galvanising of the support around the club, but also the support from football fans outside of Everton who feel it's unjust means that I think there will be a lot of people rooting for us and thinking, you know what, I wonder if they can get out of this. You know, and will almost be willing us on, you know, in those neutral games where they don't have a vested interest, they'll be like, you know what, come on, do it, you know, but decline that table, get out of it, prove them wrong. Absolutely. That's what I'm hoping anyway. It won't be the case for everybody, but listen, we've got enough, we've got enough ourselves to to get out of the line and fight this and it starts on Sunday. Absolutely. Well, our fourth member who is Nia, this is his thoughts on Everton with a random question at the end of it as well. Hey, Chaps, it's Bush here in a glamorous train station waiting room. On my way to go and interview the Everton legend that is Trevor Stephen about a thing for rock and roll football on absolute radio. Sorry I'm missing you guys. Hope you're doing OK. What a week it has been just when we were talking the other episode about finally Everton being able to kind of quietly get on with, you know, rehabilitation. We get hit with this. Why can't we just have a quiet life? It's just incredibly frustrating, this whole 10 point thing. Obviously they're trying to make an example out of us. It's too risky to have a go at city because I have to hand the league title back and all that kind of thing. But A, it's going to galvanise the club no two ways about it. We're great in the trenches, Everton Football Club, bring on the dogs of war, that kind of thing. And B, I just think what's been heartwarming is the amount of messages from people who don't have a vested interest in Everton who think it's outrageous. I think there's a lot of voices sticking up for us, which is good. I hate the fact that we're back on the radar of all the, you know, the shite journalists from, you know, the Daily Mail and all that kind of stuff. It's annoying that we're back in their sights, you know, crap football banter Twitter accounts and all that kind of stuff because that was what it was like a year or so ago. And I feel like we've kind of moved away from that. So, yeah, I feel like we're going to get out of it and we find some good protests coming up and goodness is going to be a bear pit of the weekend, which is great. My weird question for you guys is this, have you ever done a poo outside? It's a good way, you know what? It's a good way to move on. It's a good way to move on. Right, so my answer is no because I am very much like ship break off American Pie. I can't really go on here, but you know if I was to be able to select it right now, it'd be outside the Premier League headquarters. Why not? Why not alone? Yeah, you know, so Dave, anything to add to Andrew Bush's naughty question? Nothing to add to his naughty question. I haven't, I can honestly say, you know, even in my late 30s now, I've never actually had the opportunity nor the desire nor the need to ever go and do a poo in an alfresco environment. I'm not saying that that will never happen, but it's never happened to date, so I have nothing to add to that. And I support what he says just generally before the before the question. And obviously speaking to Trevor Steven, he was fantastic player forever. Don't defecate in front of Trevor Steven. No, certainly not. That wouldn't be the place to make you defecate and debut, would it? No, we don't know if it would be his debut. No, it brought it up, so maybe it isn't. Yeah, but have you got anything to add to that? Yeah, you know, there have been woods. After? There have been woods, you know. Lots of tigers, yeah. Being woods and, you know, you've had to... Shit happens. Literally, yeah. Fair play, OK, let's remember. So we have got, listen, have you got, I'm sorry, but there's more to add. No. There might be, I just don't think it's appropriate right now. Yeah, I agree with you. Well, I mean, you know, when you go down to the woods today, you're sure of a big surprise. He's a big lad, and eats a lot, so there you go. Well, I mean, don't know whether he does eat a lot, but he's a big lad. Unless it's Mike Peter, that is. Just a few rants. Cos I do think we just picked this up just slightly with a few random questions. Remember the banner on the M62 or something? Yeah, the bannos in the comments said, did you like my banner on the M62? Oh, good, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely. So bannos, cwd y poris bannos. Wondr if he puts bannos everywhere and that's why his name is bannogets. That's how I'm like, shit, bannogets with shit doesn't. That lad, honestly, he just gets, he gets on the front of every picture when they're ever playing away. Does he? Yeah, don't you remember he turned up at one of our nights? Is that bannos? That's bannos, yeah, a bit of beard. That's bannos, bannos, that's the cap. Fair play bannos, fair play bannos. Oh, he's got the banner, man. Yeah, fair play. David, we can call him. Brian Ball, favourite all-time TV show. Brian Ball, he's just asked the question, he's not a TV show. He's not giving me some time, I think David should start with this one. If you've got a favourite all-time TV show that you could just reel off, Dave. Oh, no. I used to like kickstart. Kickstart. Fair play, fair play, fair play, fair play. Why do you remember that? Fair play. I used to like kicks. If anyone doesn't know what kickstart is, it was a load of like nine-year-old children on motorbikes, traversing hills and mountains on a little bit of woodland stuff and then they'd fall off and go, oh, damn it, Jamie and his probably broken something there. Feel like those white biking outfits on as well, didn't he? But he used to be on a dead weird time, he's been on like one o'clock in the afternoon, weird. Encouraging people to track off-school. And ride motorbikes on hills, on hills, sure. Not great. Not great. 24, I'm going for it. 24, yeah. I think that's one of my... I mean, that's a different style, isn't it? Oh, absolutely, a different style book, you know. Do you know what my 24 is? It couldn't just like, it couldn't just be on and you just dip into it. No, no. Real time. That's what makes a great show. So mine would be, if I was going to go like, I've got shows I love, but they're like longer format, but I'm going to just go for something. I can just sit down and watch it anytime. Father Ted. OK. If that we are done, if we're doing that, just throw it on, it doesn't matter where at the office, American office. There you go. There you go. So Dave went me clicks that. This is a good one from G.S. That can't be Dave's. No, can I change my... Of course you can, go on. Now that I feel that, you know, the conversation has shifted. Go on then. I can honestly, I know it's recent. I think succession is one of the best things I've ever seen, ever. Yeah, it's great. I think succession was just an absolute work of art. What did you think of the end then? Now you've protested? It was always going to be tough, wasn't it? Yeah. To when you've had that much water under the bridge and how are they going to wrap it up? Yeah. I know what you mean. I mean, you're sort of implying that it was perhaps slightly disappointing, but I don't know how else they do it. No, no, I enjoyed the end and I just, but I'm sure some people did think it was, it was very much like Sopranos, wasn't it? It was just like bang, done and dusted. But I thought it was brilliant. Great show, absolutely great show. There you go. OK. On frontage, yes, says you have a light aircraft that you can send to a small crappy desert island for a life of misery and something, but it only has five seats. What five British Bellens are you putting on it? Third place, yes. I mean, I'll start with one and then I'll come back. Richard Masters is piloting it. That's what I'm going with. Can we go with David Phillips and Nick Higo? So there's three on it, or have you? There's three on there as well. Paedd, have you got two places to add? Yeah. Or do you want your own five? I want my own five. OK, go on then. Trump Farage. British? Don't care. Don't care. I don't know what to do. Trump Farage, Johnson. Yours has got a theme, but carry on. No, it has, it has. People who are trying to destroy the world. Come on then. Richard Masters is trying to destroy the world. And... Jedwood. No, I like Jedwood. I think they're great. I think Jedwood are great. I can't. And one more, one more, one more. One more. Oh, yeah. Matankoch. No, I can't say it. No lad. Andrew Robertson? No. OK. Oh, yeah. There's a special place on the plane for him. I'm not that spiteful. I am. It's just scrappy doo type. But whoever else is on it, Richard Masters is definitely the pilot on it. But yeah, there you go. Bob Pendleton says, I personally despise Brussels sprouts. What is your devil's food? So just one food type that you put in room 101. Devil's food. I've got one while you're waiting. Go on, go on. Coriander for me. Coriander? Yeah. It's the fresh coriander that you sometimes get on. This sounds very middle class, doesn't it? I hate fresh coriander. Can't abide it. But yeah, I just don't like the taste of it. It's just a bit... It's almost like metallic and... Yeah, I don't like that. But on the Brussels sprouts one, while Peds think in what his answer is, and I've just filled the time here, is that Brussels sprouts also are one of my hate. I just, you know, when they just come out all bored. However, right? And she will be watching this. So, you know, I said before about my cousin Paul, right? Well, his wife, Ali, she'll be watching this as well because our Paul will be watching it. Okay. So she does something clever with Brussels sprouts where she actually slices them and then she sort of sautees them in a pan with, like, bacon. Mum's done this, yeah. And actually, that's a whole different kind. Yeah, that does count. Yeah. And they're really, really tasty. They come tasty, then, yeah. I mean, looking outside of the box, then maybe that is your... So what's her name? Ali. Ali. Well done, Ali. Well done for sex and Brussels sprouts. I'm going to go with... I like that. Corned beef ash. Really? Yeah. I've told you this before. Oh, no. Anything that was given out as ration food shouldn't be allowed anymore. It's a symbol of that. I almost feel like the way the world's going, we're getting back to ration food, so I don't know. I didn't mind corned beef ash. I couldn't have something like spam. Corned beef ash. I couldn't have that, but custard creams for my devil's food. Really? Yeah. They made me sick when I was a kid. Hang on. You're missing the obvious here. And I can't. No. Well, you see, they're almost... Orange clubs are the real answer. Orange clubs should be banned at the stake. They're a fucking disgrace, but custard creams are coming up on the inside, on the rails. I like custard creams. I also like... I like jammy dodgers as well. Yeah, jammy dodgers are sad. No, they're sad. I can live with them. They're absolutely sad. They're dipped all day. I like to eat the outside first and then save the jammy bit in the middle. Okay, Dave. It's a live choice. That is Dary's up to you. It's superb. It's superb. Pay hello. You haven't given me a question, but hello. You get us through the long drives. It's the M3 truck of fans. So there you go. Hello. I'll just show you one quickly. Jill Crane. If you could body swap for 24 hours with anyone past or present, who would it be? Why and what would you do while in control of that person? Tommy. There's a cwmle. That is a tremendous answer. That is a tremendous answer. Just to have the size of his... No, no. Just for cwmle. Just for cwmle. Just for cwmle. Fair play. Fair play. Hey, that was a quick one. I liked that one. It might be. Well, it might be. Well, you could do lots. Couldn't you? Got 24 hours. On the boat? On the boat. Just you and Pam on the boat. On the vid count. Okay. Fair play. When you want a better haste, it wasn't haste. No, it wasn't. You want better. You could probably get like a GoPro in everything these days. You could really upgrade that. You could up the ante there, but do you think that... I mean, yeah. You could up the ante. You could... I mean, that would be a... Do you think that might be a passing killer, though? The GoPro on your head. I was just thinking... Well, you know. Well, you know. I know what you mean. I mean, it sounds like some kind of like CD video, doesn't it? It does. With ante showing. So, up in the ante. Oh, okay. You know what I mean? So, you might have been so much ante, yeah? So, Dave, have you got anything to add on to this? If you could body swap for 24 hours, anyone past present, who would it be? Why and what would you do while in control of that person's life? I think it would be Aquaman or someone like that, because, you know, I think if you're going to body swap, it needs to be somebody who is slightly different to you. I mean, I'm not really very Aquaman, naturally. Right? So, I think maybe that. Where would I go? What would I do? I mean, you, Aquaman, you and your bleeding paddleboard. Do you be fine? Surely it goes like a lansus? I just think maybe a little bit more, you know. Okay, fair enough. Fair enough. I mean, more grrrr than I am. More grrrr, yeah. In real life. Yeah, definitely. Are you just passing that one by, are you? Gary Linnick and I'd stay at everything and win everything. 24 hours? Yeah. I just wouldn't sign the contact at Barcelona. There you go. I mean, listen, I've got other ones that are far more interesting and I've got a current day one. Tiki, whatever his name is. I believe you want to be white. Tiki Tachar. White Lashon, did you say? White Lashon, did you say? White Lashon, because you want to be gone till November. Yeah, yeah, gone till November, yeah. Tiki Tannach. What's the one who's married to Rita Lloro? To Rita Ticka, right? No, not it. Rita Lloro. What's his name, pet? The Greya, dude. Tiki, whatever he's called. You keep on saying wrong names and else throw me off the real man. I can't remember what his name is, but he's married to Rita Lloro. I got that one. He's had fun for 24 hours there. Joe Mack says, if you could know the absolute truth to one question, what would you ask? What would that one ask? The absolute truth. The absolute truth. The absolute truth. Who killed JFK? You love that, don't you? Of course, man. All right. Dave? It's all fun. Yeah. Okay. I still keep thinking about the independent commission. Fair enough. How did you get to 10 points? Yeah, how did you get to 10 points? That's dominating my thought process at the moment. It's all just stuff about how did you appoint those people who were clearly unsuitable and how did you come to that thing? And how have you changed the rules just for us? Okay. Other questions? Other questions. I'll be highlighted in the next four to six weeks. Like the last one, Chad, me fondu, cheese fondu, chocolate fondu, or fuck you fondu? What's in a fuck you fondu? I don't know. I think maybe just means fondu in the bin. Oh, I see. Right, okay. I'd go for it. I don't know. I don't think I've ever had fondu, but I just looking at them, I'd probably go with chocolate, but I don't know. I don't think I've ever had fondu, either, but I find the idea of it in a savory sense to be a little bit sickly. So I think cheese, what was it? Cheese, meat, or chocolate, or fuck you? I think I'd probably go chocolate or fuck you, because I think that, well, yeah, I don't think I fancy the meat one or the cheese one. But plus also, is the meat one not cheese based anyway? Isn't fondu essentially a cheese based thing? Yeah, it's wrapping cheese round. It's going to be meat and cheese as opposed to cheese and cheese. I'm going for chocolate. Do you know what? It's not really my bag to be honest with you. No, no. So we'd probably all air on the side of fuck you fondu, but if we had to, it'd be chocolate. Chocolate. I'm going for wika tatiki. That's him. That's him. It's nothing. It sounds like him. That's where I'm going for 24 hours anyway. Let's hope he misses doesn't listen to this. Right. I'm looking at how to pronounce taika waititi. There you go. Wika waititi. There you go. Dave, no sound effect. Just to finish that off. Oh, sorry. Hang on. We can... That one? Yeah. That one. That was the independent commission. That's the delivery to me, Sue Evan. I mean, this is no more silly than what's actually happening in real life. No. Right. Okay. That was a little bit more profanity than normal, but hey how the week has called for that. Right. It is sweary, Dave. Let's leave it there. Dave's a very busy man. He's got to go off and do other stuff. As I've we. So thank you all for listening. Leave your comments below. Anyone's question we didn't get to, we will do next week. Big thanks to Mr Bush as well for making a brief appearance. Take it easy. Subscribe. Like. Give it five stars. Do all of that good stuff. I will see you next week. Bye. Take care.