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Also, we are running a sale this month Maps hit and the no BS six pack formula both 50% off for the half off. Go check them out Go to maps fitness products calm Just use the code July special with no space for the discount. All right. Enjoy this podcast We just went live with Sal's Workout video and I was really curious to see Because the vlogs like do kind of like whatever on the on the on the channel people always want to watch See what we do work out. I know I'm and we should of course, right know that but that was like the first time We've done a vlog that's like that and I know that there's been a little resistance from all of us on that because none of us Feel like we're like I don't want to pose like a cool guy You kind of have to do all the cool guy stuff. Yeah, it's also anti like we're so against like the way the fitness Industry sells fitness, which is like look at me. Yeah, I'm sexy and blah and we're all like every now and then we got to let him Yeah, that's right. They don't even know But I mean that the truth is though it just it just highlights how much it works still because look at the way It's it's taking off right now the comments are flying you didn't even call for comments It's flying right now and you know the one of the number one comments Is everybody wants to see this guy's work out Justin's work out. Well, yeah, that's interesting to me Yeah, you're a horse. What do you mean? Well, maybe because it's a little different obviously, right? I'll sell hyped you up pretty good too. So He hyped you up for good like oh Justin's so strong Did you watch it? Yeah, but like I didn't make a way through. Oh, yeah Okay, then the tingle ease are happening you can only watch salad a wife Weird This doesn't make sense Yeah No, no what I said in the video was because I actually talked about both you guys and this is just true, right? So, you know because Eli's filming it and so people don't know Eli Kind of manages the vlogs and he narrates it and he was asking me about you know My workouts and comparison to you guys and and I was just very honest. I said look here's a deal You know Adam was an IFBB professional Chasing his aesthetics is gonna be it's a you know, it's a it's a game in futility in other words I'm not gonna achieve his Aesthetics, but it's nice to reach for that, right? Yeah, and then I mentioned you and I said Justin's different I said if you work out with Justin one of two things will happen, which this is true Also, either you're gonna get hurt or you're gonna give up Because that's kind of what happens The more jacked he gets the sweeter he becomes this is all these I was watching Like I don't go back just like When he's feeling amazing Adam's so good looking and fit and Justin's so strong. I'm just lucky to be here Talk you guys out of He's like setting us up what that is because he's feel so good He's like I'm gonna be nice these guys and I'm not gonna talk shit. I'm waiting for them to talk shit to me No, I mean actually that would be fun. I'd have fun with that like you know filming What is your what is everyone's training look like right now? I know it's been a minute So we did an update on what highlight the differences in your workouts I think that's so that's such a important thing to talk about because you do things Different and I mean Adam and I will play around with some of the stuff you do and some of the stuff will do consistently Yeah, but you definitely work out Different Adam and I work out more similar yours is a lot more serious It's like it's like if you have your go-tos that you still kind of incorporate even though you've trained Or you like change your adaptation focus completely you still kind of pull in some of your favorite Exercises I do that a lot with certain things I know especially for my shoulders that I want to maintain and keep function and keep performance high I'd need to keep keep putting rotation in there. And so I do still do Indian club swings. I do may spell swings I do things that are loaded for rotation because I want to maintain that strength It's just been so beneficial for me. Yeah with overhead presses specifically also bench press anything where I'm pushing And then just having good posture throughout the day, too I've noticed that like if I don't Incorporate certain unconventional lifts like my posture sort of gets affected and even all the way down to my hips Like that's one of those things. I'm always considering if I'm not doing like a Turkish get-up or I'm not doing Farmer walks or things like that. Like I feel like my body starts to slowly Deteriorate on me. Yeah Well, we need to talk about the may spell swings because a lot of people watching or listening to this have never tried one And so they see it and it's like like if you see some if you're if you work out and you see someone squatting Two or three times their body weight everyone's impressed, right? You see someone with a may spell that weighs 75 pounds Yeah, and you don't really understand that that's freaking hard like how heavy is the heaviest one that we have That is the lightest one's 15 55 pounds. I believe yeah, okay Swinging a 55 pound may spell. It's a long ass lever. You're holding the end of it You're swinging it behind your back bell to that that has like I mean it Wants to twist your spine in half is what it feels like. I mean, what would you say? I mean, Justin? Would you I feel like I would tell somebody that I would start somebody in like Indian clubs before I went to mace 100% I just safer right like to swinging a may spell Way more control make sure you have space by the way You know that time you were swinging it and Adam had his dog here and it was like running Oh my god, I almost took his head out. Oh, that was scary Yeah, I feel like may spell can be a lot more dangerous than the Indian clubs Especially if you've never done it before and or you don't have great shoulder mobility I think it requires yeah requires more technique and to learn But yeah, I think it's so valuable though. Like I just don't feel like You know what happens is Instagram sort of pollutes a lot of these training methods where you start adding dance moves to them And it's like all of a sudden it becomes this thing where everybody's doing all these really super fancy moves that are like unnecessary I get so much benefit out of just a 360 swing and and because I can be intentionally Focused on just that swing. I can slowly progressively overload, right? I could add more weight To that specific movement and build strength just like any other muscle. Well, don't you fit? I mean, that's typical fitness industry right to bastardize something. That's amazing. Yeah, right Like I think your point to the 360 is that really what or at least what I use it for is to keep great full range of motion Strength up. Yes, and one movement that the 360 swing that you're talking about Does that better than almost anything else? Now what I see a lot is like you said is I see people doing these phant reverse lunge with it to a whole Yeah, and I've messed around with that and when I'm doing it I just feel silly because I'm like, okay, this isn't really a great leg Exercise that I'm doing right now. I'm getting a little bit of routine. Yeah, it's like the biggest I don't like to I mean, I guess, you know, I know some of these guys and I think they're doing cool stuff And it's like but it's a totally different genre. Let's put it that way Like I'm just focused on the strength part of it and what's benefiting my shoulders And so that's where I just try to keep it simple Just like when you go back in and start lifting, you know for these compound lifts, you're like, oh, yeah those five lists Why did I get away from those five lifts? It's just cuz you get distracted. Yeah, you know what's You were talking about how they bastardize Exercises, you know what it reminds me of is when they when you got these fitness influencers doing like leg raises And there's someone they're punching them in They're not a boxer. They're not a fighter It's just some dude who's lean and he's doing and then in between there's a guy like slapping his abs like this is how I work out my Ab is no, that's how you're an idiot that doesn't do You know where I feel the may spell swings the most. I know it's a good for rotation the shoulders my core Oh, oh boy, you have to stabilize your spine or you're gonna snap Yes, and the history of it by the way, it was used heavily by wrestlers Back in the day Indian wrestlers in particular, you know, if you look at the history of wrestling India has an incredible lineage There was one wrestler called the great gamma. I think his name was if I hope I'm saying his name Right, maybe duck could try looking him up and this guy was like, I mean he'd look like the cartoon wrestler with the mustache Yeah, the curly. I mean this is before like forget steroids before protein powders and creatine, right? And this guy was just huge and I think he had something like 2000 Matches undefeated. Wow. Yes, and he would and this and some of the exercises they did where there he is right there Look what he's holding a massive Doug push the man right click on the very right picture. That's an Indian dude. Yeah, and he was a beast I mean look at that guy. Remember, this is no they didn't like necessarily lift weights. They did what were called So great gamma gama. I'm sure picture of him will pop up here on the YouTube He they did what are called hindu squats hindu push-ups. They did lots of kettlebell swinging they did of course Indian clubs and This this guy yours. Do you have any idea? Good. Good. It was a long time ago, but that's a good question I want to say it was in the 1800s. They really call that, you know when the king 1940s when was it 1940s? Mm-hmm. Oh, so it wasn't even as long ago as I thought. Yeah, but anyway, this guy 2000 matches or something like that undefeated and you know while he was born in 1878 So Yeah, yeah, so he was he was wrestling then in the way you just said that's in the 40s That would be he's 70 something years old when he was doing these feats. No, no, that can't be right No, I 1947 riots that doesn't have to do with it That's By the way, the men land on the moon in I Love reading about old strength athletes because they were they were not polluted by Social media magazines supplement company nothing they and they were these guys were beasts like there's another guy He was a judo fighter from Japan Kamura actually the Kamura lock in Jiu Jitsu. Yeah was named after this guy This guy was a beast he would throw people with a very basic judo throw Oh, I think it was a soto gari It was a call it's like a one of the first one and he would literally knock people out He hit him so hard on the ground. Is this a stupid question and when you go through judo or Jiu Jitsu Do they actually teach you the history of all the moves like when you learn a move and in class really? No, they don't know not really, but the Kamura is famous because he so he Leo Gracie who's the founder of Gracie Jiu Jitsu or some people would say Brazilian Jiu Jitsu He was this kind of small skinny guy and he would do all these fight these challenges in Brazil This is how he got Jiu Jitsu to be very popular and his dad learned from a Japanese judo guy So he learned it and he would do all these matches and then he wanted to challenge the Japanese champion Kamura and Kamura was Undefeated nobody could touch him Kamura sent his student down first because he saw he saw one look at that's a move isn't it it is so This is what happened, right? So he sends down. I think the guy's name was Sato I don't remember anyway. He had this the student his top student He said if you beat him then I'll come fight you and I think because he saw Helio was a skinny kids guy or whatever So I'm not gonna waste my time anyway Helio ends up choking this guy asleep So Kamura comes and says alright I'll fight you and the fight lasted I don't know how long it was a long fight He threw Helio a bunch of times Helio did not give up He couldn't beat him finally he gets him in a Kamura lock which didn't exist in Brazil Jiu Jitsu And he breaks Helio's arm Helio refuses to tap So Kamura afterwards says he's the greatest warrior I've ever fought and then Jiu Jitsu included this, you know Some people call it figure four lock or it's called the Kamura lock and Jiu Jitsu named after so what is it? I've remind me what that looks like. I know I've seen it in UFC before They'll take the arm and they'll bend it behind you and you grab the wrist grab your own hand And so use leverage to oh where you got two arms like you're cranking on it Yeah, so it's two arms on one so it comes from the behind here, and yeah, it'll snap you Dude, I've seen spiral fractures Tournaments it's disgusting the arms now how many how many of the moves like that have you learned the history? Do you know a lot? I was a nerd about it. Of course. I looked up about everything. Is there anything? I'm not a nerd about there's a Kamura locks you on the very right. I mean, I appreciate bro It's great for podcasting. So I mean it's so it's so you it's annoying In real life. It's annoying for podcasting. It's brilliant. Yeah, that was one of my favorite some damage And the Japanese are huge fans of that of that. Oh, yeah, that's a nasty. Yeah If you look at Kamura if you look up a picture of of Kimura the the Japanese judo guy remember They didn't lift weights either they did lots of body weight stuff and they would do body weight stuff with partner So someone would jump on their back that he squats or push it He was jacked. Oh, yeah He was like 220 pounds and he would other people's body weight around all day You can look up like Kimura judo champion or maybe that that'll help or Kimura judo judoka Oh, yeah, Masa Masa Hiko is I say, okay. Look at it. Look at on the very left. Look at the guy's neck, right? Just thick necks everywhere. Yeah, dude, and he was he was jacked dude, bro again. Look at this guy Can you imagine this guy was a beast and there's videos of him in his 60s? I think teaching his students and he's just throwing them like there's nothing now when when did When did like the weight training evolve to help these guys? Like when did we start to figure out like what type of exercises and things that they should be doing in the weight room to get Them great like traditional resistance training. Yeah, yeah, because they did body weight It hasn't been that long that that really has moved into it You know, here's the thing in fact I talk about this a little bit in the resistance training revolution book Yeah, how is that going by the way? Oh, it's going. Oh great I think we're we've hit like 10,000 copies, which isn't bad for a few months. Oh, wow It's got five star reviews on Amazon. We have great fans. So I mean they'll go on there very vocal. Yeah, they've been Yeah, the best thing is I'm getting messages from people who never exercised or you know, traditionally and they'll message me and say Wow, I never thought about doing resistance training to improve my health and now I'm doing a routine I feel really good and so that that's the most, you know I mean you would know more than me as far as talking to the publisher and the agent stuff I thought what is what they consider like is it a good launch for us? Is that is 10? I mean 10,000 sounds like a ton of books. Yeah, it's good for the how long it's been released Because it's evergreen it'll probably continue to grow So I mean the goal really was to create a book to get people talking and get me on shows to talk about Resistance training. I mean, I know what our desired outcome was but I'm just curious to like, you know, they said it's good I actually have no idea. Yeah, I don't know if it's good or bad. I mean, it sounds good I mean, that's that's a lot of books in a short period of time And what we tend to notice is it's still just trickling, right? It's just happening. Yep. But yeah back to the resistance training, you know I think with all sports It wasn't that long ago. It was like Five decades ago, maybe so maybe 50 years ago Yeah, but even then I feel like so like I remember when USC was first coming out and remember they were all doing like CrossFit Yeah, so it really it's really evolved just in the last decade I feel like where they started to wasn't it Bruce Lee who really started kind of bring in a lot of the actual Training and bodybuilder kind of training. He was so ahead of everybody Yeah, but I mean at least the thought of it of bringing that into martial arts. Think about that, right Bruce Lee was doing movies in what the 60s So who were the top boxers at that time, right? You had like Muhammad Ali, George Foreman Yeah, they didn't lift weights even George Foreman didn't lift weight. He looked like he lifted weights Yeah, that's true. That's interesting boxers were encouraged not to they were they told to do road work calisthenics bag work Right in chopping trees. Yeah, and they were saying if I didn't realize they weren't they weren't lifting weights back then They thought it would make them slow the first boxer then to start to do well With all these like random Jack the banner Holyfield was the first guy to popularize it right to make it look like yes, dude lifts weights, and then of course ties Man it took a long time, but you know what I love about sports is and I'm not a big sports guy, obviously But here's what I like about it subjective So it's like if the team keeps kicking everybody's ass then at some point you can believe whatever you want But they're big they're winning so yeah, okay Well, I guess lifting weights has got some real value. So maybe it's time to start implementing it football was probably the first sport To really do it. Yeah, and then later on now. It's like can you think of a sport where they don't lift weights? No, but I still think that golf they lift weights. I know I mean I think that even it's still evolving though as far as how they train it was I mean, there's still a lot of professional athletes that have terrible coaches and trainers Yeah, I mean so that it's been it's been popularized enough to know that it's important like hey Lifting weights can definitely benefit whatever your sport is But I don't think that it's gotten so popular that every athlete has a a primo coach who's telling them what they should think That's only just now happening. I agree. They're just now figuring out. They need to really specialize their training Programs to cater to these athletes for longevity, but also they're they're very specific sports needs Yeah, because it you know, it wasn't that that long ago or again athletes were encouraged to not lift weights because it would you know reduce their speed and performance and Now you're starting to see them pay attention go back to the 80s, right? Look at the training regimens and diets of some some of these guys Literally, there were baseball players that would party all night Forget that they had a game. Who's that one pitcher? He dropped a ton of acid because he thought he was gonna party and ended up showing up I'm sure you have Daryl Strawberry, but no, yeah, I know you're talking about. Yeah, there was like a pitch to no hitter Dwight I don't I think that's who I brought him up before I keep forgetting his name But you know and then of course you go back even further that I mean Ruth What about nutrition? I mean nutrition is really is probably even further behind than the weight training because there's still a lot of Athletes that eat like crap and then there's a handful life that we're not a handful more than a handful But there's a smaller percentage of them that are actually dialed in is doc Ellis Oh doc in the game you can watch the game and you had no idea And he threw a no hitter which is absolutely a bold move He was in the zone though, you know You know what you know was I did not know and this is when we talked to like top level Sports coaches, right is they say oftentimes the reason why you don't mess with diet is because it messes with the athlete Psychologically so like if if so-and-so player is like before every game I drink two glasses of Kool-Aid and I eat a cheeseburger from McDonald's and I win when I do that and then you're like Nah, man, that's not good for you. You know, it was super super realistic. Yeah, was the sports psychologist We had on McCabe Brett McCabe. Oh, yeah, that's who talked about that. That's right. I forgot all about you're right It's because it's the return that you get on them eating better is a small enough return that it's not worth Dude He's like, no, I eat a double cheeseburger before every game. That's how I win. Did you all right? That's your process Did you have anything like that when you played? I mean, I I was very much superstitious like I had like specific socks I had a specific way I put, you know, my uniform on never wash this under nobody fuck talk to me You know, I was really adamant. Don't talk to me like I had to hyper focus and be in in my own world And I used to get so mad at in college specifically because everybody is just all jokey and jovial before we're about to like Basically go to war in my mind. Were you guys taking supplements? Were supplements popular like in your school when you were doing that? Were you obviously the 90s? Yeah, so there were some guys that were really about it like I mentioned Was it many things remember those when they came out was like Fedra Fedra like there was a couple guys that I mean That's only happened for a few games, but they're experimenting with it and oh my god He's just seen the opening kickoff. It was like a bunch of rabid dogs It was it was crazy. Have you I don't recommend the zerkers Yeah, I'm your heart didn't explode. Have you introduced like your high school kids to things like lmnt Or it's just like a very basic supplement that I guarantee all of them need. Yeah, so that's yeah It's great. I actually did a whole talk yesterday just specifically on nutrition because I was like that's something that nobody talks about I have no idea where these kids are coming from like one thing that was interesting to me to think about was a lot of these kids will Sleep till noon, right? And so that and then they're just like barely even cramming something in before they come to practice And so they're not even like properly, you know preparing and eating, you know to get to practice Which I mean they're expending so many calories in these workouts Because it's not just like in the weight room where I want to implement what I want to do with them But it's also they got to go run hundreds and they got to do all this crazy other Stuff and they're not even they don't have the proper energy because I haven't been focused on eating Well, you have to be that okay I'll get me before we're done here today Make sure you talk to Jerry all have them send over specifically for your high school team You'll be a champion, but you show up every time just with the lmnt perfect Yeah, this kid's getting cramps and you know, there's They're not properly hydrating so I guarantee that would make a massive difference. I did bring them up I brought them up and I brought Creatine up Yeah, I'll have them give you I'll have them give you extra so you can literally bring that every month for the kids And you can be that that coach is who can everybody up so that'll be cool That'll have an impact too because you're a kid That's what I'm saying Supplement performance Whatever, you know, I'm saying yeah, no, it'll be super cool. That's what I'm saying You'll be look like a champion doing that Who doesn't love free supplements that's it so Katrina always laughs about this because we she just did this yesterday Who was it? She just is I don't remember who she did this for but we do this a lot Like as a thank you to someone that maybe helps us out or comes by the studio We talk about how much free supplements that we have she always does this little. Oh, it was Vicky That's who it was and I didn't even tell you guys this so yesterday Vicky was in here. She cut my son's hair after after all of us and She's like hey, she hasn't asked any one of us this. Yes Katrina. She goes. Hey, um, could I buy some? Mind pump gear like I you know She's like, no, we'll take care of you so that don't she's like no, no, no It's okay. She's like, of course don't worry about it with size and she's getting our stuff And then she put together like a you know She just took all the random supplements that we get since that's like the go-to move like all these supplements We get given to her and we give but she goes every time I do that you you would be surprised Like how excited everybody gets I'm not surprised. I said ever I know what I was We talked about this before that if I was 22-year-old me trainer and you told me that this future business that we were going to build All you had to do is was out at a fitness expo No, it gave me Unlimited supplement access and like thousands of dollars someone sends me for free I would be like, oh, that's yeah, I wouldn't even care about the salary or how much money like really I'm gonna get that much free I mix all kinds of weird things It'll happen if I ever die that's probably what you know what killed me yeah, so makes four different supplements together He wasn't No, but psychologically I remember as a kid when I was 14 or 15 I just started lifting weights and I'm going through my parents like they had their own supplements like and they were vitamins It wasn't like anything crazy, but I remember going through being like what can I take before I work out and my dad had these Vitamin C packets that you put in water and it fizz. Yeah, and I thought for sure This has to do something. Oh dude, and I would take it and get the best workouts. It was all psychological No, it's because it got bubbles talking about football Have you guys Justin? Have you seen what the COVID restriction rules are for the NFL right now? Have you seen what they're doing? No, I haven't I'm gonna read these to you guys So I actually restriction for fans or for the players for the players So this is what this is what they're doing So they tried to encourage the players to get vaccinated and I think they were so unsuccessful with it This is this is the rules for this season I'm gonna read them off because I was so surprised on like the stuff that we have here So if you're a vaccinated player You will not need to be required to submit a daily COVID-19 test if you are unvaccinated you have to test daily every day every day, right? If you're vaccinated will not be required to wear a mask at a team facilities or during travel Obviously, if you're not then you will have to well You will if you're vaccinated you will not need to quarantine after being exposed to COVID-19 if you have it We will need a self-quarantine following exposure For someone who has been back vaccinated no travel restrictions or limits on move on movement If you have if you haven't been will remain under same travel restrictions as of as the 2020 season restrictions Which is the whole two weeks before you can see anybody remember all that stuff They can't so listen there's some there's a bunch But I'm gonna name some of the ones that I thought were really interesting like you can't even use the cafeteria with your teammates So they're gonna isolate these people that are decided. They're not gonna get vast in it vaccinated You can't even use social media. So resizing them. Here's a weird way. You can't you can't you? Listen to this. Okay vaccinated players no limits on social media marketing or promotional opportunities Unvaccinated players not allowed to have social media marketing or promotional opportunities. Why I know I thought that was really weird That's that at that Clearly is just pressure. Yes vaccinated because that has nothing to do with you All right, you can't you you're not permitted to use a steam room or sauna I mean, they're doing a lot of things to just completely isolate this dude remember how I brought up that dark hope that dark horse podcast where They had that that Doctor on who talked about Ivermectin and then Rogan had the two guys was it was a Brett Winston Weinstein You know someone corrected it. It's it's it Weinstein or Weinstein. He pronounces it Weinstein Weinstein Okay, so Brett Weinstein and then there was this other doctor can't remember his name They talked about Ivermectin Rogan had an emergency podcast had them on so I got a message I actually got several messages from doctors in other parts of the world where they have low access to vaccines And so they've been relying on Ivermectin and they're saying it's tremendously effective. I had one lady message me I forgot what part of the world. She was fun. I want to say Africa and she was saying Oh, yeah, we've had tremendous success using Ivermectin to China land too, right? Yeah, Thailand Africa. I know some areas in Brazil were using it and they're finding tremendous success We don't hear about that over here and then there was also some now I think the FDA is now investigating. We don't like competitors. Yeah I know the FDA is investigating heart inflammation issues for adolescents who are getting the vaccine. That's mainstream by the way I'm not making that up. So yeah, don't monetize concerned. Yeah, I know interesting, right? Yeah So but I mean I get the whole Yeah, they're a major, you know money machine and they want to protect their money machine totally and that's really like why they're so Crazy about I'm sure, you know, yeah, cuz one person on a team gets a text everybody's paycheck They have to the team can't compete at the way that though, you know, I was gonna ask you guys So what I mean that I know how I feel about that like what's your I mean? I would be upset as a player, but at the same time like it's an organization, right? And you're getting paid So it's kind of like, you know, each one of these Companies sort of have to set their own standards, right? So no, I agree. Yeah. So I mean, what are you gonna do? It's my business Plus those guys I mean, it's hard to feel bad for pro football players make you know millions of dollars. Yeah Well, I mean that's their job, right? And there's most people that have a job. There's parts of their job They don't like but you still show up when you work because there's a lot of other things that you like And so that's the way I look at it. It's like that's you're not the one writing the check You're you have the opportunity to work for them and play and is even though I'm not a fan of all that stuff like that I also agree with their their ability to be able to do that. Yeah, let me see if I can stump you guys on this I have like one little fun fact that's thrown here. Oh, okay I don't know Sal might know this or not, but why is that? Why do you always start like that? Because he's in the weird facts Yeah, no, okay, just try don't backpedal If you know the answer, I'll shock. Oh my god. See Adam feels a little bit threat. Go ahead. Go ahead Yeah, so the the Great Pyramid. Okay, how many sides is this the Great Pyramid have how many sides? Wrong. Oh damn no eight. Hey, what do you mean eight as eight? So it's an eight-sided. It's eight sided So it actually like inverts From the corners, so there's a point in the middle of each one of the corners Oh, and they didn't see that until they were it was some kind of like so equinox So it changes as it goes up. Let me get a hexagon and not a frickin. I don't know what that's called But it's it's definitely eight points to it where we always thought it was four But they didn't notice that until the shadow of the Sun hit it at like an equinox or interesting Yeah, it was crazy. I wonder why aliens made the pyramids. That's what I always think about Yeah, why would they mean there's a reason? I mean wouldn't that change the definition? It's not technically a pyramid anymore. I mean, how is the base? So I think the pyramid still is part of it, but okay now explain it So like so there's four points to the base correct, right? Yeah now if you add like little inversions on the sides It's still a pyramid Hmm. It's not like I feel like we're more confused than before I know even less now They don't even know yes Have you now I know you know this Justin because you're in again you're into this kind of stuff Yeah, but you know that the you know the sphinx, right? That's that looks like a big grand thing. Yeah that it has Pretty clear water erosion Marks on it, right good to prove the flood Well, just to show like and there wasn't water in Egypt for way before the pyramids ever existed Yeah, and so they think that that proves older that the sphinx was there before way before the pyramids were I mean, how crazy is that? You know, it's funny. We have no way of knowing we have no way of knowing all speculation the truth of like all of this Well, okay, what's the if the if the great flood was true, right from Fred if you're going from the Bible When was that time frame of that in relation to I have no idea? Oh, yeah That's my know that yeah, there's no definitive like date for that I think it's just because well, there's a lot of interesting new data out there, too That you know shows more than likely there was a meteor impact which then caused like this huge flood and you know affected Basically in the United States, you know the Great Plains. Yeah, where like it wasn't a slow process Yeah, it was a fast process of ice just basically came down and carved through the land Because the current theory is like that water slowly eroded and created, you know the Grand Canyon and Graham Hancock says there might be evidence that this was a fast process that there was this Cataclysmic event that created All of these things and we really have no idea. Yeah, Randall Carlson He's like this geologist like but he has like really cool evidence that shows You know from aerial views and things how when water moves fast how it cuts through the earth differently So you actually see that on a massive scale of these fingers like you'd see at the end of like a river or whatever It looks very similar, but on a really massive scale. Here's the weirdest thing for me You ever seen the pictures of they're like, I don't know what you would how you would explain them They're not carvings, but they're definitely Big pieces of I don't know for lack of a better term art that you can't even see or notice until you're in the sky in a plane Have you guys seen these no they're ancient and you can't make them out like if you're down on the ground Or around it you don't know that there's literally a picture of an ant or a spider one of them is a naked dude with an erection Doug what yes, you have to look this up now. Yeah, Doug look this it's literally a dude with a boner And you don't see it unless you're way up in the sky. He's excited for aliens to visit Yeah, so that's those are the Nazca lines. There's there's one. That's a spider. What's it? What is that? I don't know what that is those are you see them from space under the Nazca lines. What is that? That's what I'm talking about one in the Peru I believe yeah, and Peru and so what what is that? What is creating that? Is it someone? I mean, you know, you they just mowed along a certain way No, no they blasted for a hundred thousand Making the lines though, what is it's a mountain ridges soil is darker and then when they they carved through it It's like it uncovers the lighter type of dirt. So it just stayed like two thousand years old some of these that they find Worst is the green piece that came down there and actually like a destroyed. I don't know how you find this But it'd be like naked ancient naked man seen from airplane or something I want you guys to see this really really just to see this naked. Yeah, I you know Doug is so his search history Nazca naked man. All right, man. I don't know if it was a Nazca though. I might have been someone else Let's find that guy. Yeah, that's the guy that's like hello. Yeah. No, there's literally a dude I swear to God. There's a monkey. Yeah. Yeah, right there. Oh, that's uh, no, that's in the English How long has that one been there? Medieval so it's a medieval You know, what's no way that's what it says. It's not prehistoric. It's medieval But for whatever reason medieval English people drew a dude with a club and a boner It weirdly makes it a thousand years old how old a thousand he's really the violence a thousand years old Yeah, yeah Now because it's a dude with a boner holding a club Do you think it was a bunch of dudes that were like they were they were drunk on mead or something? Yeah, I do you know be funny. Yeah, if we did a massive like Imagine the math requires to do that exactly With without the ability to see something from now. I might imagine that that's way more difficult than you think That's what I'm saying to be that accurate They couldn't you here's I was expecting to see some you know some lines and like you're like That's better than that's better. I can draw on paper. Yeah, you know, you know, it's what's funny about really though That's where all these alien conspiracies come from That's crazy. Yeah, well think about it. They never saw their own damn painting. How are they gonna see it? You're in medieval times. You ain't jumping that high like what are you doing? You get you're kind of guessing, you know, where are they gonna see that from? Yeah, that's it from a plane man, and it's it's I can't tell Doug what it what is it in that's that makes it stand out like that Are you less interested in this dog? I feel like I'm really interested in this. Yeah, you are very interested I I mean that's fascinating Something that's that I mean something that old you don't have the ability to see how I mean and it to be that accurate Yeah, it's like it's a big hoax and someone mowed along that way Well some of those crop circle things they've shown how they've been able to do that But those can get really geometrically complex Yeah, and so some one of the of course funny theories is that they were making that for the aliens because aliens are in the sky They're communicating So like hey, hey, we got a boner. Yeah Yeah, I'm ready. Yeah. Yeah. I'm cock ready. Okay. Hey, you guys you got two options If you come down producer kill one or the other we either fight or come down here fuck around find out Yeah, yeah that's that guy that saved us We don't realize They saw that shit though, I don't know why and violent. We're out of here It's made out of chalk it's what made our chalk Chalk that would wash away the rain. They've repaired it multiple times apparently yours. Yeah, it makes sense. Here goes Adams No one time some kid did that in the 1980s Yeah, that's how now I'm starting to think that way so it's chalk on the grass, huh? That's kind of weird Yeah, I don't understand the details of it, but let's just it's it's a thousand years old. Yeah I'm I've never I've never seen that before so that's really yeah. No, it's interesting. That'd be a fun tattoo, huh? That'd be great on your arm. Yeah, it was on your arm It's cool stuff. Anyway, I want to ask you I'm gonna take a left turn here Adam I obviously wasn't in truckie with you guys when you guys had this famous Rib, but me buddy. What's the deal? Everybody's like bragging or talking about how amazing it was. Yeah I mean duck so Doug brought a smoker up. So I was actually really excited. So I did Korean short ribs for dinner and a salad and I forget what else we did Katrina and I did and that was the original plan And then when I found out that Doug was bringing his smoker up I actually have a freezer full of butcher box ribs just over the course of since I've moved from the other place this place I hadn't set up actually my grills So I haven't grilled for a few months at my house And so our my freezer is because I got everything on auto. So I've got all these ribs I'm like, oh, you know what I'll bring those if and I'll we'll bring them But I want to make sure case Doug didn't show up with his grill that I had a dinner plan for all of us And we're okay But I'm gonna bring him just in case if he does bring it then what I'll do is I'll get up early Throw them and smoke them all day long and then oh, that's what you do. Yeah. Yeah, so they're bomb They're like a six-hour smoke. So well not technically the whole time smoked right? It was smoked for two and a half hours But it's cooking for that long. Yeah. Oh, yeah cook for six hours. Yeah, so it just falls off and it's just oh, yeah I gotta admit I was a little jealous because they were actually better than my ribs I was asking a lot of questions like what did you do here Adam? I didn't know you had that in you So I You know, it's funny he says that now because he was he's asked a lot of questions for a lot of questions for a guy He smokes ribs all the time. Hey. Yeah, they were so good. I mean they were Juicy and I you know I actually called an audible a little bit because we we couldn't find apple juice where we were at So I didn't have the apple juice to kind of hydrate it and you actually saved me with that because I'm like looking in the house I'm like, what can I hydrate these things with so I don't dry them out too much and Doug's like well, you could use beer and I'm like, oh, that's a good one. We have plenty of okay I'll make some credit you do you do I mean so Because that was my one fear was that they were gonna get dried out too much because I didn't have anything to kind of you know Based them in a rehydrate them throughout the the smoke that long of a smoke without having anything to hydrate it with It could dry it out a little bit So Doug said the beer and so but I didn't want a really heavy beer taste So I didn't do a lot. It did just enough to keep it kind of beer That 808 beer we had in the refrigerator Sorry, you don't even know my beers, right? So yeah, whatever we have all this beer in that refrigerator because people have stayed in our house And then we just none of us drink none of us drink beer. So it's like piled up. So that's perfect. So I use that and I had this seasoning from from kinders that I use. I think that's how you pronounce it, right? Is it can I pronounce it? Kinders. It was a maple. It was a like a Maple seasoning but it has things like brown sugar like that in it, which is something I would know I'd you normally use the brown sugar with butter and honey to when I do the foil So the way it looked is I seasoned it with the kinders Smoked for about two two and a half hours at like a two two twenty two twenty five After that I pulled off when I pulled pulled them off. I wrapped them in foil Obviously season season them again, and then I took some Kerry Kerry gold butter to kind of melt over the top of it And then did a little bit of the beer and then I drizzled real lightly honey Sealed them back up in the foil Flipped them upside down so that it's it's kind of Marinating and all that and then cooked them for the next three and a half or you know The here's a deal with like grass-fed meats is that you know when you get the grain fed stuff It's like more palatable. Obviously it's got more fans But here's what I will say their ribs are the best ribs. They're actually okay So way better than the well, especially if you cook them for a long time I was excited about you know how well they turned out myself considering I didn't have all the things I wanted so I did them again for 4th of July, but I didn't have the butcher box I had to use the one of the Safeway one So I had one butcher box and the butcher box butcher box one way better way better. Yeah, now these are pork ribs Yeah, you know what their pork is incredible. Yeah, it's the heritage or so taste yeah Which is interesting to me because being completely transparent when you eat grass-fed beef in comparison to your your grain-fed beef I don't like the taste that much better I mean it tastes healthy and it's good, but it's not as rich and marbly as the as beef sure brain fed But with the pork and maybe you can explain to me the difference between the butcher box heritage pork versus what you would get The grocery store because I don't I don't know I don't really know I know heritage pork. You know Doug I don't oh, that's all funny. Nobody knows. I know it's I really I know they raise it. It's it's exactly It sounds It tastes better. Yes, so it tastes significantly better than the pork and it's like so one of the tricks about ribs, too Is having the the bone straight and even so it cooks even because it's such a long cook It's easy to have you know one side cook perfect and then because this is kind of fattier or it's turned It's thicker this will be way different because that the longer I cook like that the more discrepancy there is in the meat size and everything from one end to the other in the bone could really change how Perfect the whole rack is so you want a rack that is like Almost identical so that when you pull off in six hours It's a nice even cook everywhere and actually that butcher box or they're beautiful. They're always perfect and Hardest thing when you're at it when you're at the grocery store one of the hardest things you can do is to find Multiple rack racks that look identical what you end up having to do is cutting probably a good portion off to try and make them Look like that but your box does have a nice rack Hey, I hope you're enjoying this podcast Check this out. This is a company. We've worked with for a very long time called brain FM Now they have songs and beats and sounds that you listen to that induce different states of consciousness Different states of mind no joke. I'm not making this up. 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No, you know, it's funny must if you look up the studies on Isometrics right and the value of isometrics and how it helps you connect to Muscle so you could fire it better In oftentimes isometrics are done in these studies without any outside Forces so you're just flexing essentially like what a bodybuilder would do on stage And if you look at the the old-school bodybuilders, this was actually a part of the routine I know Arnold would talk about posing for an hour a day something like that Pre-contest before the show and he said it would bring out definition And in quality he said to his muscles this there's this 100% has value So yes, there's definitely an ego portion right where you're flexing for the mirror here But I tell you what if you know how to hit here's a good example If you know how to hit a good back pose where you can activate your lats and flare them and flex them You're gonna be it's gonna be much easier to feel your lats when you do an exercise like a row Well, this is how I teach if there's not any good solid connection My muscle connection there in the chest even like I'll slow it down and just you know Sort of pause in that position to squeeze and gain that Neuromuscular connection because it's so valuable that way because when you slow down And you're able to kind of feel Feel your way to to activation of the muscle that isometrics are beautiful for that I always wonder when I was competing if that was like the origin of it right like if somebody actually really had the smarts to know that What he was doing or she if it was a girl that was starting to do this first, right? Like if it was my intention was to fire the CNS get better connected That's why I'm flexing in the gym all day long or if it was really something that was more self-absorbed I like the way it looks. Yeah, I mean, I always wondered that I know I know that chicken or the egg We talk about this a lot We talk about the importance of the central nervous system We talk about being able to be connected to a muscle if you can if you can with no resistance Flex every muscle in your body. I guarantee that you can train it better than someone. Yeah, that's control Yeah, so that is it that is a fact. Yeah, so there is extreme value there If you can on command if I can look at you say Sal flex your right pec or squeeze your left flat If you have the ability to just like that flex or activate that I Guarantee that you have a much easier time building that muscle inside the gym totally now to answer your question It was the isometrics that came first. So Tension based exercises have been around as long as we've known about resistance training It's been practiced for a very very long time as a way to improve strength and performance later on bodybuilding Included a posing around so what they actually used to do in these shows is you would come out and do some kind of a feat of Strength usually involving gymnastics or some kind of a strongman event Then there was a second round where they bring that back and you yeah, right? Imagine these 300 pound bodybuilders doing some kind of yeah Most of those are like that's genetics though Some of them just are flexible like in flex wheeler man He would do like you got the splits on stage and do Tom Plats was known for his incredible Flexibility. Yeah, but anyway, it's it's there's definitely value to it And what's funny is the bodybuilding poses the compulsory bodybuilding poses Actually, if you do them right or excellent at activating pretty much every single muscle Every single muscle you have the the front double bicep the back double bicep the front lat spread the back Let's you know lat spread you have the the you know hands around the the neck ab pose Which is actually more of a quad pose most muscular like all of the poses that you find in bodybuilding Even the rotating ones which are in compulsory. They're excellent for connecting even before bodybuilding You had Charles Atlas and you had his program that was bodyweight based, but it was all just isometric flexing I mean for the most part this skill also Gives you the ability to Change exercises so you can do an exercise to One person may look at and go like oh that's for your traps or oh that's for your rear delts And you can actually change what you're trying to focus on because you have that ability totally like I when I go into an exercise I can take the same exercise and it could be something that was designed for my rhomboids But I could be using it for my rear delts or you know You could be doing something that's like a major back exercise, but you're really trying to isolate and focus on the lat So you can do movements that are traditionally for something else, but then work I mean just like a a close grip bench press right when you are trying to work the triceps You can really make that be more tricep than chest and shoulders But if you don't know how to think about that while you do the movement It becomes a lot of chest and shoulder still it's still a chest and shoulder movement because of what you're doing But if you have that ability to contract and flex the tricep on command like that because you've practiced that Then you can go into a movement that yeah It has chest shoulder and triceps and you can make it more triceps like you're trying to do yeah Like how about a supinated grip chin-up? I can make that a back or a bicep Like big-time bicep. Yeah, I'll tell you what when you look at priming like we talk about priming all the time priming really is a much more individualized advanced and Effective way of just connecting to muscle flexing essentially is what priming is If we were to make it really really general so Definitely, there's a value to flexing in fact, especially if you have a weak body part Flexing it in between sets and at the end of your workout should make a difference That's all the resist all resistance training is flexion of the muscles with some sort of resistance Yeah, that's all it is you are flexing a muscle and that resistance can be weights like barbell stuff It could be cables. It could be bands. I mean that's all resistance training really is is flexion of the muscle with some sort of resistance Next question is from folvio the castle What's the best way to increase core strength and performance? Okay, so since performance was included in this I'm gonna avoid the kind of aesthetic Exercises because you could definitely do exercises that develop the muscles like a bodybuilder really get them to look really great And then there's performance, which means how well does my core? Perform in lots of different movements. I mean most movements involve the core to some degree So when we're talking about performance really it's about Stabilization by keeping the core stable. It's about transferring energy Can I use my legs and my upper body and have the core transfer that energy very well? Because if you'll notice if you run or walk, there's this kind of counter Pendulum cross-sectioning sort of pattern. Yeah, so I like Rotational exercises. I like what is it called counter or anti rotation rotation exercises stabilization movements where I'm holding and Stabilizing Explosive, you know medicine ball slams and throws. I mean those are really going to give you phenomenal core performance in terms of Athletics and being able to move I think you have to break down a little bit more exactly the difference between strength Strengthening and performance are different goals So if you just if you came at me and you said I just want to build strength in my core The training routine would look different than if you came to me and said I want to have performance in my core like when I think performance, I think of speed acceleration control stability Explosiveness rotational strength. All those are that's all performance driven, right? I want to be able to have this this stable strong explosive reactive controlled core And then if you say I want to have a strong core like it's building strength Just like it's building strength and in quads or biceps or any other muscle So it's it's a different adaptation now There's carryover from each to both of them right if you have if you never train your core and you get stronger You're gonna have some performance benefits and you also if you train for performance benefits You're gonna get some strength benefits from it But they are different adaptations where we're trying to go after there. Well, I I know in terms of performance a couple Exercises just for like sort of a visual that come to mind are like chops like wood chops or like, you know upward chops or You know like just rotating, you know across your body with either your hips being in anti rotational Stabilized position or rotating with you So there's there's both of those elements to it where I like to I like to be able to compartmentalize that so a lot of Athletics you need to be able to have like a nice stable base in order to produce ground forces But also you need your upper body to be able to rotate, you know ferociously And you'll see that a lot in you know in baseball you'll see that a lot You know when you're hitting, you know a baseball or you know, you're throwing a punch or you know How to generate that kind of force from the ground through your legs You know be able to anchor your hips and then be able to drive in take that momentum Through you through your arms. So what I'm hearing from both of you guys is that If someone came to you with this specific question that I want core strength and I want performance It sounds like you both would go I'm gonna focus on performance Because I know that I'm gonna get some strength because both the exercises you guys are recommending right now are more Performance-based. Yeah, and I would say it's strength is very specific. So okay. I want a stronger core for what? You just want to be able to look at it or yeah more reps With a high resistance exercise like a leg raise or a decline sit-up or just stable in a squat in a deadlift Yeah Performance I tend to think more of sports that you know that I'm like football baseball, you know tennis those types of sports But yeah, I mean strength is just it's very specific like I can get Very strong with a decline sit-up with resistance and really activate my core have a good strong stable core But be terrible at throwing a ball. Yeah, because there's a lot of technique skill and speed that's involved in that So, you know, and this is by the way, it's a good attribute I mean it is awesome to train your core like we have the no BS six pack formula, which is really an aesthetic based In strength based ab in core program really developed to build the abs so they're more visible And there's carry over there But if you want like athletic and sports performance train your core like an athlete Well, that's where I would lean you to okay So perfect example no BS six pack abs more strength based core stuff in there maps performance more more You start with the foundation of the strength right to be able to gain that Control but really stabilizing the spine So, you know be able to do that on command is the first step because you need to be able to be anchored and be grounded Where you are right and be strong in that position Whatever it is and then the performance to me is now adding a lot more variables to that where things need to rotate Things need to anti-rotate And how you're able to kind of put all that together is performance next question is from wife of the tree yogi Are food intolerances self-induced or not? That's the million dollar question. Yeah, right? Yeah, so more often than not I would just in question. Yeah, so I mean food intolerance is like what causes them So one thing that might cause them is you have inflammation in the gut the The junctions between the I guess the cells that line the gut because remember the gut really isn't in your body So think of it this way think of like a donut, right? The hole inside the donut isn't in the donut It's actually on the outside of the donut the donut just surrounds the hole So when you eat food it goes through the body think of it that way It's not in your body until it's absorbed and what allows it to absorb or come into the body or it's very Complicated, but the wall of the gut and the intestines allows things to move through well if it's inflamed Particles can go through when they're not supposed to and over time your body might recognize these particles as foreign invaders develop kind of an immune response and Blingo blango you have an immune response to food that you eat all the time So that's one, you know common popular explanation. You also could have food intolerances because of Sebo small intestinal bacterial overgrowth you could have an histamine intolerance as a result of it So now you're eating foods that are high in histamine like bone broth for example, which is supposed to be good for your gut But all of a sudden it's causing problems. So I would say probably a lot of it is Self-induced, but then there's ones that we just you know, I mean could you consider I guess lactose intolerance like being born with allergies Yeah, I was gonna say yeah, what about things would you guys subscribe to the idea that like epigenetics are playing a huge Role here. So let's say like what's expressed I mean, I definitely think there's things where if your family came from the Mediterranean and there's generations of generations of eating Certain types of foods your body is just and you've that's been passed down from your dad It just agrees with a lot of food and then when you go outside of that I think that I see at least in my experience with clients like when they go outside of those things that they're Their families have been eating for generations on generations I feel like though you're more likely to be intolerant to those I feel like some people are more susceptible to it than others in terms of like having that kind of genetic predisposition like there may be something underlying there but a lot of times some people like they don't really get to the point where they Feel the consequences the clearest example of that is lactose intolerance So if you look at like northern Europeans, you're right is in African-Americans is extremely high, too Right. So now if you look at northern Europeans, they have a very high tolerance or for lactose Yeah, and it's because for they've been drinking milk probably for thousands of years longer than most places, right? As you go further south in Europe, you start to see lactose intolerance go up In Africa you see lots of lactose intolerance except for certain areas Yes, there's actually tribes that the drink milk. Oh, yeah There's there's regions of Africa where they have tremendously good lactose tolerance So that's a good example of how our genes kind of you know play a role in how we tend to tolerate food now Here's a challenge with that Adam is Especially nowadays and especially in Western countries very rarely We find someone whose lineage is so like one area like my family's all from from southern Italy So it's easy for me to be like, okay Mediterranean, right? But most people are like, yeah my I have a little bit of yeah, you know Swedish I have a little bit of this and a little bit of that in me And so then it's a little mutt so I think you really just kind of test it out for yourself and see how you feel But that's the clearest one. That's the that's the one that's most studied where we can see clearly Oh people from this area tend to have you know, 20% of them are lactose intolerant whereas people from here 5% or whatever Next question is from Jack Michael What are some good high protein or just healthy meal or snack ideas for someone on a college budget? Yes, you know, there's a myth that if you're if you're on a budget You can't eat a diet that is conducive for building muscle and being lean right that is totally false In fact every college student or person that I've worked with with this challenge Oftentimes when I look at what they're eating. I'm like you're eating out, you know four times a week or once a day Like why don't we try removing that and Starbucks on top of that which is seven eight bucks? Yes, you know Who's the super jacked black dude with the where's the crazy gold glasses and stuff like that he did this thing Yeah, yeah that guy he did the thing of like top ramen and check chicken thighs You could get jacked off of that now I don't think that's the most ideal diet for people But I do think that there is this myth that eating healthy is so expensive because I think what we do is we we compare Safeway to whole foods and then everyone's just like all the whole foods you spin tooth well, okay Yeah, but if there's ways for you to buy and buy from farmers markets There's ways for you to buy in bulk for things like chicken thighs that you can get and you can have a brown meat Yeah, like come on. It's cheap. Yeah, dude. Stop buying the aged prime rib, you know at the at the whole foods like literally bulk ground beef rice frozen vegetables and bone broth like you have That right there covers quite a bit so you could buy bulk ground beef You could buy bulk chicken thighs or chicken breasts Canned fish so tuna fish is very inexpensive You could buy rice which is one of the least expensive foods on the planet very easily digestible source of carbohydrates potatoes Very inexpensive certain fruit very inexpensive frozen vegetables frozen vegetables are very easy very inexpensive You buy a bag of broccoli That's frozen or a bag of asparagus that's frozen and there you go and you actually will save money You'll actually save money eating this way and it's healthy and it's conducive I think this question gets asked to a lot because of the how much, you know, we promote organic whole natural foods And I think we've talked about this a long time ago. We haven't talked about this in a while that if we had a Order of operation here, right of like what's most important? Organic food isn't number one, right? So I think that that's something to be clear about like if I had a kid who just absolutely every 10 cents difference makes Counts and I'm trying to get him from eating McDonald's and fast food off the 99 cent menu and you want to build muscle or you want to be fit You know a regular ground beef. That's not organic. That's fine I would not and I'm not saying that that's ideal or where I were what I even eat But if it came down to I've got a choice with this kid who's broke that I can't I can't buy He's trying to find money under his yeah, you know couch or something then yeah Organic food doesn't come above eating balanced good diet correct balance good diet is a higher priority Even if it's not organic before that you're right, so I will I will say this nowadays Grass-fed organic the market has grown so much that you actually get pretty good prices You could look out for good deals butcher box a company that we work with Great prices for grass-fed type of meats, but yeah at the end of the day. I mean literally Buy in bulk ground beef chicken thighs chicken breast buy in bulk rice buy in bulk frozen vegetables some fruit You are set you are good You have nothing to worry about and I and you'll actually save money I promise you you'll save money doing it this way and you'll have a great muscle building fat burning You know healthy type of diet Look with that head over to mind pump free calm check out all of our free stuff We got lots of free stuff that we give away to our listeners and our audience Things like guides and how to burn body fat build muscle become a better personal trainer You can also find all of us on Instagram so you can find Justin at mine pump Justin me at mine pump Salin Adam at mine pump Adam No, it was called a growth mindset at the time But that's exactly what I adopted this belief that you can become Anyone you choose to become with tenacity and determination and I decided that I was going to be a healthy person with healthy habits That was literally the phrase that was my bedrock And so when I would ask myself when I had you know faced with decisions or choices I would ask