 You will get 7% off of an already incredibly cheap price from DistroKid and you can go there and release your music to the world We'll talk about DistroKid a little bit later. I just want to say thank you first of all as well Not only to the people who are in the live chat now, but to the people who have been in the live chat all this week when I have been Running the or not not this week last week and a bit of this week Well, I've been running my seven days of giveaways Series which of course has been to celebrate The turning of a hundred thousand subscribers here on on creative source, which is just been an incredible thing Which as you know, I've hardly had time to take it all in to be honest with you But yeah, that's been wonderful If you're on the chat by the way now do say hi It'd be nice to see nice to see you here in my chat and I'll say hello to you guys later Yes, it's been phenomenal. If you haven't entered at all yet. That's fine because There's still some time left about four days left entries for The giveaways all of the giveaways and on the 7th of March. Okay, so You've got up until then to get your entries in Now after I have after we have finished this live stream here today Do look out for a video which is going to come out Within or I don't know probably I'm going to say two hours of the end of this show because I'm going to be busy Soon as we finish this show Uploading the this new video and it's got some important information Relating to the giveaway. I don't want to fill up this show with it But but just keep an eye out for that because it's pretty important Now I do have a guest for today's show But he hasn't quite arrived yet because I know he's coming from his own live show on his YouTube channel And he's only got a few minutes in between and he's an old fellow. So he has to go to the toilet and do things But yeah, we'll be joined by Pete Johns quite soon before we get on to the first of our songs Which we're going to be listening to three I should say in in this show I do want to emphasize to everybody who is live in the chat and we'll be watching the replay Replay later, please do send in your mix There's some instructions in the description down below about how you go about doing that But put simply I'm just going to ask you to email me a wave or an mp3 file of your mix And just a little bit of information a little bit of background information I won't always be giving lots of background information on the show I may or may not depending on how important I think it is But it's just kind of interesting to sort of get to know you and stuff. So Don't be shy about that even if you're a beginner I mean if you're a beginner even better to be honest with you if you feel like there's a lot lacking with your mixes They don't sound that great. That's fine. Absolutely fine We'll be seeing a little bit later on in the show that we're getting some Different qualities of mixes that we're looking at. So I'm going to quickly say hello to some people who are here in the live Chat, it's always always good to have mr. Mimo Japan. He is there in the live chat, of course He's just busy saying hello to other people as you can see That's what he does And he's in fact, let's pull that up again He's in fact saying to someone who's been a regular on the live chats in for the giveaways and is a rogue Avalanada Avalanada, I'm sorry. I basically can't read. I'm I'm almost illiterate I know you probably can't believe that but it's absolutely true Especially when it comes to reading up people's names on live shows good to see Doug in there in here, of course, he's probably up at about like three o'clock in the morning or something like that I don't know what time it is in his part of the world But very very early awesome to see the lily-pillies in here who have been featured on my featured artist live show before and Make some awesome music. Lovely to see killer B 74 in here as well. Welcome to the show We also quickly I'm gonna say we have Richard Harrod from Devon lovely lovely part of the world Devon in the UK and one more. Let's just find someone else or two more I've got to say hello to both these folks. Nick Ellis is here a massive support of the channel And I have to say quick hello to Wobby Wobbit Now that Brings to my attention something else which has happened this week apart from the all the giveaways and The other video which I'm gonna release later as I say you should be watching that but another thing that's happened and Wobby's reminded me of this is that I've also finally opened a discord for Creative source. I don't even know what a discord is to be honest with you. Yeah, I'm I'm still figuring out what it is Well, I've got one I've got one and I've got a little bit of a funny story related to that discord But if I were to try to find out about new tech The latest thing that's happening Especially the latest thing that's happening in terms of iOS and recording music in iOS. There's one man I would turn to I Think he's called garage band. What's the name of that channel? I can't get but if I can't get hold of him, then I'd contact this other guy and his name is Mr. Pete John's and I'll pull him up here. There he is Hello, hello. Hello. What's all this then? Yeah, sorry Pete. Can't hear you can't hear you We didn't do that sound check before the show. It's like we just you're muted at the moment You'll need to unmute yourself. Can't hear you buddy. Can't hear you. No, I could Yeah, yeah, the weird thing was that I might my audio wasn't working and I came in here And I'm like Mike probably gonna do the joke even though you can hear me You basically you did give me that four seconds of terror where I thought that I hadn't actually done it, right? Because I've just come off stream yard and now I'm on restreams like again This is all inside baseball stuff. How the heck are you? I'm very very good I could I would ask you a little favor and I think the people are gonna agree But if you can turn your microphone volume up a tad sounding just a little a little bit quiet to me I can come up. Oh, that's a bit. All right. That's too hot. We're coming down How are we here? Is this gonna be around about that spot? If you were recording vocals What would be the RMS and the peak that you would be aiming for when you were gain staging your vocals? I would be aiming for Them to be audible and to not sound clippy and not be too low. I don't do any of that Highly overrated Mimo Japan says I'm perfect now. So I agree with Mimo Japan But yes, if you if you need me to come up or come down as we talk Awesome do that now the only other thing because we didn't get because Folks as I say Pete is just like a machine. He came straight from his channel off of a live stream into this live stream Bought about 50 audience members with no, no, there's only 26 but but a few with them so thanks for coming over and And and we didn't get to do any kind of soundchecking stuff Pete The only thing I'm gonna ask from you now because I had Chris on last week Chris a lamb from Mixed down online and what he did was he faced his head towards me so that we look like no You've got to get the other way mate. Yeah, if you could just do the whole show like that There you go. We just look like we're looking at each other now. It's lovely Yeah, no idea what you're doing. You could be pulling faces at me. I know you can't see green I've never seen your side side profile before as well. It's very attractive, isn't it? Look a bit shiny This is all very very self-conscious. I'm like I've learned here today Don't do a don't do a two shows back to back because it's it's a bit it's a bit rough But no, it's a yeah, I'm actually liking this. I'm gonna do it I'm at least gonna be sort of like this and that way it looks like I'm judging you and and everyone for the whole Talking about don't do two shows in a day I've grown a whole new appendage of respect for you in the last that sounds a bit rude Your appendage is growing for me. I might take that go on But yeah, so I did these seven days of giveaways filmed all the videos in advance and released a video every single day And I thought this is gonna be easy. I'll just sit back and have a cruise the old week But no, there was there was other things to do social media post and I thought how does Pete do this? How does he do a video every day? I could not do it drives me nuts. What you're gonna do is lower your standards To lowest level you possibly can and then you're absolutely fine. So, uh, no, you just your standards are too high Mike You've got to do that Man, no, it's not that I couldn't have a jammy day or anything Right, there's no if you got if people in the chat don't know what a jammy is that an Australian thing I don't know could be an English Australian thing But that's the day where you don't get dressed you wear your pajamas Pete John's never has a day like that ever like they may be Christmas day. He doesn't even do it for Valentine's Day I I he's he's a monster anyway Pete Pete I saw you in my discord yesterday. Mm. I'll say that four seconds and then I got there's lots left There's lots of people in my community don't know what discord is I haven't even put a link for it in the description yet But I will and if anyone in the chat like Mimo Japan or someone clever like that has has the link to My discord then you can put it in the chat but Tell me what is a discord? Well, I'm actually in day seven of my training my 12 year old is teaching me as we speak so She's told me all about it. She's got the night true thing going on. I don't know what that means She told me about the voice on the chat servers. I don't know what that means And I don't know how to change things I don't know how to pin things but she tells me that you can do all these things So no discord is like a facebook that has a lot more flexibility and a lot more segmented So the way I look at it is it's like a facebook group So for those of you who I know that are members of max facebook group or my facebook group Discord is like that except every instead of everything going into one big algorithmic mix It's actually just like what facebook used to be It's a end to end oldest to newest and you can go into the different categories and actually see what people are saying Not what um certain people's algorithms want you to see so that that would be my description I'm sold on it even though I've already got it, but I'm sold and that's great I was in there and so if people would like to know about this discord There's this creative source discord. Let's describe it basically as a chat. There's text chat there You can have different channels different topics you could talk about and there's also video and audio and I've been going The last couple of days. I've done some video and audio chats with just anyone who's been around Um And it's been so much fun to get to know some of my viewers Face to face and learn about where they live and what they do and what music they're making It's really cool. So if you join that and you want to have a chat with me sometime when I'm available Um, you know jump in there. Um, get you just be careful. It gets a little bit X rated at times when I'm not on youtube But uh, but yeah As you can see a side of mark that you've never seen before. Yeah, well like I've seen your profile It's very it's great. Really. I actually like it. It's I'm feeling really cashier So I hope you got some like kick ass music for me to listen to here tonight, Mike So talking about kick ass music. I've got some really interesting. Um mixes now You've been on this show once or twice before fix my mix, but for people who are watching I just want to give you a quick brief This is not like other shows that me and peter have done Which is just about listening to music you've released these are Generally unreleased pieces of music and by the artist's own admission probably needs some work done to them Some of them are in final stages where they need the kind of work Which is like they can't hear it properly anymore and they need to know what tweaks they need to make And some of the things and this is going to happen on tonight's show Are from people who have a lot less experience and have mixes which are a lot further away from being completed And as I was saying in the intro before you got here, Pete I don't want people to be nervous and think they can't send their music in because You know better stuff has been played or what have you this is about learning all together And um, and it's about in this occasion myself and Pete hearing a track for the first time not really having listened to it and probably because of that Being able to kind of more easily spot what it needs than someone who's listened to it 50 times already Okay, if that if that makes some sort of sense, I think we should move on Before we do, uh, if you are in the live chat, please go ahead and hit that like button I see 26 people and only 12 likes. I'm sad That makes me sad too But but Mimo Japan has put the discord server in there so you can go to the server and Start making rude comments while you watch the show. You can do multitask. He's absolutely amazing You know, um, so the first track that we've got up here. I will let you read out the title. Mr. Johns This is uh, oh you got that really easy one. It's distance by mystery fire. Absolutely. Yeah We've actually got three easy to pronounce ones. I love it I generally save up the difficult to pronounce ones for ricky t brown He's he's just funny listening him to pronounce things in like spanish and stuff like that Very very funny to me. You know, cruel sense of humor right So mystery fire are alan croft and graham stanton Graham's on lead vocals acoustic guitar keys, etc And uh, allen who said this song in is on drums base and all the mixing and engineering, right? So obviously in norm under normal circumstances Graham singing the vocals is going to get all the praise from everyone But from our perspective the guy who mixed it and engineered it. He's going to get all the praise Or is he anyway, um, did it in cakewalk by band lab a little bit of equipment stuff here tlm 103 So that's an omen mic for the vocals. That's a very good mic So we should be expecting if microphones or anything to go by a decent mic a decent vocal sound we'll see And uh, it went into focus right 18 i 20 acoustic was double tracked Very common practice for those of you who are new to recording and mixing Often not always with acoustic guitars You may record it once and then record it twice and blend those two recordings together That's the most simplistic description of double and i've ever done acoustic uh, i'm not okay the bbc symphony strings was used That's a free library i hear this time and time and time again on recordings and it always sounds good Super impressed with that's one of the best things to come out free last year Drums were played live through a rolling kit triggering excellent audio addictive drums. That's always an interesting thing that hey, p jade often plays drums for you on your songs these days And she records an electric drum kit. Am i correct in that? Yeah, correct. Yeah, we use the uh, again I used to use addictive drums back in my reaper days and I use the uh, yeah the built-in virtual kits garage band has a whole bunch of them So i've uh, I love me some virtual drums and I think if you will listen with this But you could definitely tweak the uh, your settings and your eqs and you you Get some good drum sounds that don't have to be real ones. So yeah, very very cool. All right So let's go ahead and listen to this track as I say, uh, mystery fires distance or distance by mystery fire I should say here we go For guidance no, we're taking it all because it's not that loud just to roll. Don't you dare for make a chance on a ticket? You better hope that it comes in soon because the day acts in the ceiling The ground started shaking too. There's nobody kind of crewed past the signers. We're leaving It'll say won't you come back soon? No, I don't know. I did it again. I did it again. I almost I almost did it completely I've had this nasty habit the last couple of weeks of muting myself and not I'm muting myself See I wasn't muted like do I come through during that? And we probably got some heavy breathing uh pad in there if I wasn't you didn't no I thought I thought you I thought you were good. Um before and and if that means because I was muted Everyone missed my incredibly hilarious joke, uh, but you know, you can't repeat jokes Can you you don't say much before we talk about before we talk about the the song there in the mix? I'll just let's say a quick hi to someone. Um who's arrived in the chat and and I know you know him too And that's Vachi from recording studio nine. Nice to see you here Vachi a fellow Aussie youtube and folks you can follow If you click in the live chat if you follow, um his name He's got a great channel there talks about all kinds of things to do with music hardware and using music hardware and software and mixing All kinds of stuff. So do follow Vachi there. Um, here's some interesting things to say as well. Uh, while that song was playing, but first of all Mr. Pete Johns, we're gonna have a listen to what you've got to say. Sure First thing I'll say is yeah shout out to my friends in Queensland and New South Wales You are all very wet at the moment. Please stay safe and don't float away because uh, if you don't know that Australia Just has really severe weather. We don't do anything by halves over here. So, uh All up and down the the northeast coast is uh, is struggled struggle town at the moment. So shout out to those folks This song though, um, I loved it I'm a huge piano rock, uh, piano ballad kind of fan I love Elton John Billy Joel Ben Folds is like one of my favorite artists of all time And I did I like that kind of the the piano chords playing the plot like I went two places with this one in terms of arrangement. I know we're talking mixing but arranging and mixing kind of go hand in hand I loved the steady metronome Plotting along beat of this all the way through and then I was thinking to myself halfway through Does this need a change and is it going to change up? And it did a little bit I'll talk about what I liked about it there. Uh, but firstly get piano Drums bass vocals all really nicely mixed balance was there tone was there sounded good Um, really good song really well sung as well The the production on the vocals really well sung the the microphone didn't disappoint I don't know whether it was the my cause some nice compression on there And there's a little tasty bit of reverb and delay but not too much sometimes people overdo that So it was nice subtle matched the song really really well When I got to that second part I was waiting for something different for some dynamics The string pad came in I quite enjoyed that I thought that worked well with the sort of second half I love the seventh chords. I love that hanging on with the seventh chord in between your things I saw the chord progression was great. Um, I would just I wanted it to really slow down So for me the piano playing the full chords all the way through I would have loved in the sort of bridgey It wasn't even a bridge It was sort of like a pre second verse section when it was sort of going a bit quiet when the drums went out I would like reduce that down and just go with like some bass notes on the piano with the Right, okay. So keep the drums in but just go to the bass Yeah, maybe maybe the drums in and the bass note or maybe just the bass note with the piano or go down an octave on the piano Just to really sort of bring it down because I thought yeah The one thing that stood out to me with that with the song was and the mix was that the dynamics It was pretty flat the whole way through there wasn't a whole lot The drums going out and coming back in and the strings coming in worked well But I would have just loved to hear a little bit more variety Because I think it really could have ramped all the way down And then come all the way back for that big triumphant sort of final chorus with the strings and everything in there So that was that was that was where I was at but that's really good And it's much in line with what I was going to suggest with the song as well This sort of song is right up my street as well It reminded me a little bit of the verb for some reason just I have the verb slash Beatles written down here Because it reminds me of a verb tune not bit of sweet symphony, but the other one that they did Yeah, the drugs don't work or something like that. Yeah I mean great great sound great vibe. It had all that vibe going on Again, I agree with you that the vocal sound was good and it had this nice Christmas and and I will talk about the microphone a little bit that is that it's not really to do with cheap or expensive I'm just going to say some microphones are kind of crisp, but they're harsh on the top But this with I like a microphone which has that Christmas that airiness But it's still smooth and not harsh sounding and then I could definitely hear that with that vocal there was very very nice In terms of the mix because most of what I'm going to say is really about Really sort of production arrangement along the lines of what you were saying but in terms of the mix I think if you listen to that again, Pete, you might agree That the drums could just come up just a tiny tad. They could just be just Just a little nudge up there and you may find if you do that that the bass may have to come up with it as well the bass guitar Um, but it wouldn't be much but if if uh mystery fire is still mucking around with this Then um Then then I think that that's the only thing that I could pick in the mix itself But everything else I've got to say really has to do with arrangement And it's exactly the same as you said I was waiting for a lift. It felt a little Yeah, a little bit the same level most of the way through as you say there was the introduction of the strings Um, I think Vaci from recording studio nights and something like along the lines of It needed a peak. It needed a lift and a peak now It was only when you were speaking there when you were talking about it dropping Um with the piano or what have you Then I thought ah actually that I hadn't thought of that it needs a drop and then Like not an explosion. I don't think it's a song for a Not fireworks, but yeah, you could come out of a really quiet passage into something a bit bigger than it was Previously if that makes sense. So the song can go along at 75 75 and then drop down to 40 and then go bang up to 95 to finish with I felt it could do that Um, so that could all be done not so much with the mix. I think as yeah taking some stuff out for a while Yeah, um in some parts and the only other thing that occurred to me again, it's a bit of a arrangement production thing I think they could still do it is that Um, everything was really clean sounding like really really clean sounding nice But I wanted just a little bit of grit happening somewhere, right? So I'm just playing with ideas here, but maybe an over driven Rhythm guitar, you know, it could be picked But really quiet not loud not not not grr, but just kind of under there So you you're feeling the edges of a bit of a sizzle of a sound Um, and everything everything's not quite perfectly clean that may work. What do you reckon? I agree And I was trying to think of the song that this was reminding me of that I think would be great to listen to not that you want to copy someone else's arrangement or their ideas But there's a song by an Australian man called jet called look what you've done And it's a very similar song to this it has the piano chords doing the quarter notes Just like this one the clonk clonk clonk clonk But yeah, it does it does exactly that it has a good drum feel I think that you just mentioned having you know, Phil Collins style drum feel to come into that final chorus And it really does that it has that energy of just being serene But then when it goes in it really hits hard and I think the other thing is um again because I love piano players And I love that big piano sound is I would love to hear a little bit more I don't know whether this was like the piano was programmed or played I didn't hear that in sort of the intro But a few sort of syncopated notes a little bit more interest in the arrangement in that last version So playing the same chords, but with a little bit of a do do do do like some elton john style flourishes In the piano just to really differentiate that final chorus from the first time around I think could just really make it Climax well hang on could really make it climax well At the end there I knew you had to bring climax in there somewhere And it's going to get worse and downhill from here folks because it's Pete johns the man who traditionally broke broke the rule of the whole channel and swore his head off Still hold that crown you still hold the crown for whatever word it was that you said I can't remember what it was Anyway, that's great stuff really really interesting. I love the song. It was a lovely song. Yeah, so uh, thanks very much to mystery five for sending that in That's in my opinion actually quite close very very close to being finished and ready for release And if you were to release it, of course, then I would definitely suggest you as mr. Johns would Um, he would suggest that you would release it through distro key who are going to get it out to all of the places That you want to get it to um, if you want to sell your music all of the main places in the world that is and uh very very easy and you're going to get seven percent off of The regular price of this is nineteen ninety nine us dollars. Um for the regular package That gives you an unlimited amount of um original material to release Per year. So that's pretty good. Uh, let's just find out about that quickly now If you do follow the link in the description down below It's going to take you to a special page on distro key with this yellow banner at the top That banner is letting you know that you're going to get a further seven percent discount of your first year If you sign up here and let's face it. It's already very cheap if we scroll down We can see that year's membership is nineteen dollars ninety nine per year for an unlimited number of albums and songs And so long as it's your own music There are no extra charges and you get to keep all of the royalties from the various platforms platforms like Spotify apple music tick tock pandora amazon instagram title i hut radio deezer and more So moving on to Oh Before we move on before we move on. Um, we were talking about discord earlier. I'm just going to promote the discord thing again I just want to tell you that if you do join my discord and you don't know what you're doing It's it's fine. Most of us there have no clue what we're doing My son uses my computer often for gaming on a saturday evening I allow him he's the only person who's allowed to use my computer and while he's playing on his games He talks through his friends on discord I didn't really know this but I kind of knew so I have the game open on one screen discord open on the other and uh He actually set it up on my computer and saved his password and everything So I do discord ages ago for something someone invited me. I didn't know what it was So, yeah, I logged into discord a couple of days ago and created a creative source channel and everything on there on my son's account I'm in there right now And uh, he messaged me yesterday. He goes dad. Have you been on my discord with a picture of the creative source logo? Oh bugger. So I had to delete that and I Go in on my own account and do it all again. So, yeah Oh good good times. No, I like it. Like I say, I'm learning. It's a learning process and it's a learning curve Bit like learning a DAW bit like learning to create record and release your music with this drink. It's all goes full circle, mate Absolutely, don't be afraid to be the new but don't be afraid to ask questions And another great place you can ask questions is both on Pete's channel If you're having a go at mobile recording, especially a bit of iOS recording and now he does a bit of logic as well I'm on that guy now. Who would have thought I'd drunk the Kool-Aid in a big way And gone to the dark side and also uh, you can check in the link in the description for my cakewalk facebook group where I'm One of the best things I've done in the last few months is open that group and it's just been phenomenal People have been so good to each other in there and loads and loads of help And I actually had a technical problem yesterday for the first time and posted on there Something it was crashing in cakewalk for me when I did a particular thing And uh, yeah, we looked at that all together and some people had the same problem We got to the bottom of it not to the bottom of it near the bottom of it. We got close to the bottom We couldn't hold our breath any longer. So we came back up But yeah, there's an analogy in there somewhere, isn't there? There is make any sense But it's a little bit of a jingling your data will not be sold off to any cakesters anytime soon So just join these groups and discord servers. They're all free and there's nothing required in return Now I will say to people in the live chat here I didn't feature many of your comments During the last song because there wasn't too many comments So I'm going to invite you all to just take part a little bit more in your comments And let us know a little bit more about what you're thinking about the mix This is kind of a a group think thing about mixes and and I think there's going to be some good input This second song is from Oh, let's bring the name up here. I say the name another easy one go go for it go This is a lg henrik and the song title is unnamed I don't actually know that the song title is unnamed but the when He sent the email through to me. He didn't tell me the name of the title And I couldn't see from the file name because the file name it let's throw that out to you live That's a good idea While you're listening to this put your in quotation marks put your suggestion for the title of this track if you were to name it Absolutely, absolutely, but the title can't be one of the lyrics of the song One of those ones like like smells like teen spirits not actually it's not actually in the song smells like teen spirit Absolutely Okay, let's do this. Let's not only listen to the song Let's name the song now a little bit of detail. The song is called. No, I'm joking. I'm joking The song deals with the deepest Despair about the loss of a great love but ends with the finding of hope again There that everything in this is MIDI instruments And the biggest problem he had was with the bass. He said when he pushes it up It pushes the whole mix down Unfortunately, the vocals aren't as glorious as the kind of Of the kind needed for this kind of music a lot of people are quite nervous about their vocals I can't stand where I'm focused I still do it. I hate the sound of my own voice. I think we all do. There you go Let's have a listen. Don't forget. You got to name this baby. Hope so Let's have a listen right now I did not have any sound I did on purpose. I did on purpose. I have to do it now as a joke It's exactly it's like me to it's like me mentioning the fact that you're now in stereo at least once every show We have to do it every time so I don't think we've had anything quite like that on the show before not quite that genre um And i'm gonna say up front on behalf of me and pete that we both don't produce that genre of music, right? Generally not but We're gonna do our best though, aren't we we're gonna do our best We will should we hear from you mike? You you rarely get to go first because you've always won Are you gonna let me do that? I think so. I think we want to I think the It's what the crowd wants. Well, why don't you tell me what you were gonna say first and then I'll see if it was gonna No, oh, I'll go first. I'll go first. Mix it up going first of all. I'm still working on my titles So, okay, I'll go. There was one title suggest. I'll know there's more than one title suggested there. We'll get back to that I mean If you're Sort of nervous about your vocals, which like there seemed to be a hint of that in the email I said, can I just reassure you don't be the the vocals for this style of music in my opinion were absolutely fine I made I don't know if this is an insult or a compliment, but I made a A note of that and I just said the vocals are basically a better version of the pet shop voice My comment was almost the same. I'm like, this is what Europe wanted to sound like in the final count I cannot Uh, I cannot have the pet shop boys played in this house because Susie has a She's just a nut job. She hates the pet shop boys so much As soon as they come on all you hear is Susie ranting in the background about how they don't actually sing They just use one note all the time and So flat it's so flat so boring. So she's just never been in a western town and well That's right. That's right. She's one of the sound the cultural context. So, um As I say, I I'm going at this a little bit from an amateurish point of view because I don't produce this kind of music but What I'm going to say is this He mentioned that the bass was an issue And the bass is an issue. It's not there But I think it's the drums which are causing the issue for the bass which is causing the issue for everything else So now I'm going to address something Sometimes you have to address things in terms of this is what I'm hearing now if it's intentional. That's fine If it wasn't intentional, it's not fine. So I can very much hear the compression on those drums Like I can hear compression big time now. There are some genres of music where compression is on purpose They're being heard But I felt like it made the drums so thick That if you were then to go I need to bring the bass up to compete with the drums Put it setting aside any kind of use of eq to carve out space and Parallel compression or that but if you were to then bring up the bass Then everything else is going to get squashed, right? I don't think it's like the bass necessarily you need to bring up I need I think you need to ease off on the compression of those drums Create a lot more space for other things Yes, not like I can have a little bit of oh, I can hear a bit of compression on those drums, but no Probably I'm not saying that I'm saying no, let me not hear the compression on those drums They're great drum sound, but let me not hear and then you probably won't have to push that bass up quite so high any way and you're not gonna Sort of that would be my first approach here because I'm hearing what the Artist is hearing. I'm hearing the problem, but I think they're probably trying to solve it by pushing the bass up And they're going it's not working every time I push the bass up the whole song is destroyed Yeah, you were nodding your head a lot there when I was talking Pete. Have I left anything for you to say? No, no, yeah, I've got my own stuff to say, but you know, I totally do agree with that because I think and it comes back to what I think a lot of us do Which is the reason that people get these over saturated or like over limited mixes that start sounding pumping And as soon as you you mentioned the stuff at the start that they said that it yeah It's not it's making it sound bad. I thought that I'm like I bet the drums are probably going to be overloaded Because that's what happens is you have a sound that is too loud and instead of turning down You turn everything else up to match it and you just it's just this race then Because then the vocals have to come up and then the drums and then the guitars and then the keys and then the pads And then everything just starts going up And it's why I one of the tips that I've been using a lot more lately and tell me Mike If you like this and folks in the chat as well, but I've been doing faders down mixing a lot So I used to mix on the fly and get to a point where I was happy with it And then just try and tweak things from there and what I found is that I would do this just sort of leveling up thing until my mix Was way too loud But what I started doing is going faders down I don't know whether this will work for this song faders down bring your drums up bring your bass up make sure that they're syncing But then making sure that that's not your entire volume Because what you're gonna do is start loading up and then you have to put a limiter on your bass And then everything will just sound overdone. So Yeah, I would sort of start from not from scratch perhaps But just sort of start like you say take take any compression off those drums Play it back get the bass to sort of kick sink in with the drums and then bring in your other instruments So I just find sometimes might not work for everyone But sometimes that can actually help you get a much more balanced mix And if you're having this problem where I can't hear the blah It's probably because you've mixed everything else first Classically with vocals you throw vocals and at the end a lot of people do and you don't have enough space There's no head room left for those vocals to sit in. So yeah, that's what I'm thinking with that very much so and I think that but in terms of the actual song itself It was great for that genre of music like lost great energy in there. Some people were saying a pet shop boys Some people said a bit like aha um, and and yeah, I sort of had a couple of had a couple of aha moments in there, but I did I've got my bell that wasn't a bell that was like a rimshot Um, but yeah, it was it was good I like there was a little drop in the middle which again, we were talking about dynamics I think dynamics are really important. Well, well, that's not true. Some styles of music don't really have dynamics I like dynamics in songs. So I was I was glad of it Just a quick note on those drums as well And what I'm thinking with them is it's not so much about if you go. I don't know whether the artist is like Very experienced with compression or whether they've just given it a go or or what have you or even whether they intended it or not as I say but There was a bit of a pumping effect. So You probably want to be looking at release times is it was where I'm going to go there first of all Attack and release times release times not so much thresholds and ratios When you're looking at this that would just be my tip if when you go in to have a look at that because um, just felt like Yeah, just felt like that it was holding on Too long and then it was you could hear it release as well in really an unnatural kind of way Anyway, um, let's have a quick look at the suggestions for song titles Yeah, it'd be great if the artist finally takes the advice here and releases this. So let's let me have a look Um, what have we got here? We've got a suggestion here from oh good. Hey, Frixie Nice to see you again in here. Um tails from the dark side. Oh, yeah, I like that. That's good. It's good I don't think this was a maybe this was maybe this is a song title suggestion Yeah, maybe someone actually it's not not working for me. Let's try again Oh, no, it's not working. Let's go another one All right, maybe someone actually wants to call the song reminds me a bit of aha That would be cool, wouldn't it? That would be great. It's great a song title. What do the rappers do? They're just like a juice world type beat It'll be like aha like song Do you realize if that was a way of naming songs just humorously The oasis would have to rename all their songs to reminds me a bit of the Beatles Anyway You're doing this at a time where the uk folks can actually chewed in so you've just added half of your lines, Mike Okay, nice suggestion from duck here stormy night. So there's definitely some darkness in these titles, isn't there stormy night And let's go for one more. I think there there was one up there somewhere Yeah, oh, yeah, there was lots of people suggested the title High Jade, which is I think it's a nice. That's a really nice title, isn't it? I mean, that's probably the most popular one during during the whole playing of the song But finally, yeah, of course, I did like this one. This is a bit more interesting when roses die Yeah, where did you get that from actually would tell us in the chat how you came up with that Was that actually a lyric in the song? I think I actually made rules because we did say no lyrics in the song I've got the actual ones. I've got three great ideas, which I'll tell you about in a moment, but no They're all good tries. They're all really good tries for the title of this song No, it's nice. Just one more. Just one more. We got in here Found my way home See, I thought it was more mysterious. I would go didn't find my way home Or lost my way or a gps was on the blink or my sat nav failed I can tell we dads can't we by the number of dad's jokes we dad jokes money No, um, I When I was gonna keep going about discord even though I haven't put a link in the description I'm I'm useless at what I do most of the time, but um, I I um Was chatting with someone from my community in discord earlier today. I didn't know who they were at first Now I realized who they were. It was a chap called Patrick McClellan And he Has been a viewer for a while and he's in my facebook group And he did something really nice recently in that he made a spotify playlist Of uh, lots of the members of my community and the music So we've got this creative source spotify playlist out there now Which is just really I find it terribly inspiring because there's just some really awesome music being made by Some people in our community And he's also currently put for people who don't have spotify or who have moved to tidal for some reason recently He's also currently putting together a youtube playlist as well So, uh, I think there'll be some people who are on featured artists live on there as well So look out for that. I'll be announcing it in the community We're talking about playlist. Um, you do want to try and get on some playlist on spotify if you release your music Out to the world apparently marketing people tell me that you uh, you can Get your music played by more people if you get on big playlists and I suspect they're probably right And one of the ways you can do that is by using the wheel of playlist feature on distro key. Let's have a look at that one One of the ways to actually get your music heard on spotify is to get onto a playlist Now distro key offers a really fun way to get onto one of their playlist with their wheel of playlist feature Simply head over to your distro key to count go to the top right where it says goodies Then go down to wheel of playlist and then you start off simply by selecting a song something You've already released and then click on connect with spotify Now obviously the further up a playlist you get the more likely people are to actually hear your music and enjoy it So what district could do here with this feature is they give you three chances to spin a wheel A kind of a wheel of fortune type of thing going on here Now the best result of those three spins Determines your number in the playlist and as I say the higher up you are the better. So on this occasion I achieved 1088 you can try every every day if you like so maybe that's something you'd like to do to actually get your music In a playlist on spotify Now it's really interesting this last track. Um, I did a little poll during probably in the last week or so on my facebook group asking people whether they Have an audio interface that they're happy with have an audio interface that they're not happy with and they want to upgrade Don't have an audio interface and don't want one because there's instant There's there's definitely times when you're recording certain types of music You probably don't Have to have an audio interface and I can't remember what the fourth option was but it doesn't really matter One of the gentlemen who answered in there, um, his name was Timothy Thomas And he said I don't have an audio interface at all He uses cakewalk And he said what he was doing currently and I had a little chat with him because it's to do with just a lack Of equipment on his part currently Um, he's he records, uh, he hasn't got a microphone even So he just uses his phone to record some sound And then he sends that way file by bluetooth over to his pc And then he puts that in cakewalk Now he obviously does that with several layers of tracks So I'm I'm guessing that what he does is then kind of plays it on his computer In cakewalk, yeah, then records the next track on his phone Right and then kind of syncs it up, right? Love and I was super impressed by his Determination to make music first of all, that's really really awesome Timothy Yeah, for people who have got lots of equipment like us and and and other people in the community But find themselves not making music and just taking photos of it to get praised on facebook pages like us Uh, it's it's a bit of a kick out the butt, isn't it? Because this guy's going to make music until the day dies With his dying breath going just give me my phone Yep Oh, it's so cool. Yeah, it goes like one of the things I say is you use what you've got to create right now I think there's so many reasons so many ways to put excuses and roadblocks in your way to not create things that people like that that just get it done and whatever you've got It's kind of why I started doing this whole thing and um, yeah, absolutely Not not the same story But similar thing like a bloke was here like installing a door today And and he's of course because he sees a guitar He's just like I play guitar and you get into this long conversation about about guitars And um, yeah, just just like talking to anyone and realizing that everyone's out there and and he said oh, look I love playing music, but I've never recorded anything and I'm just like well Business card out Because you always got to be marketing yourself my god You do you do but no just just the the fact that you know everyone can create and you can do it these days It's just it's so cool. So I I like those conversations when I bump into people about you know recording music I had one the other day that I didn't want to have though I went to buy I wanted to spare Laptop to use in bed to you know manage the channel and what have you my old ones get a bit ropey And and I thought it's handy to kind of have a Mac around I once in a while a Mac is useful to me for different reasons trying out You know hardware and what have you and they make good, you know laptops and and I just wanted to buy a second hand one I went on gumtree And and so it wasn't very expensive was nine 2015 I seven one terabyte Flash drive is a bit like a SSD drive It's cool cool 900 australian dollars, which I thought was good, you know a nice 15 inch retina screen I thought that will do me But of course when I go on gumtree and for those of you who don't know what gumtree is a bit like marketplace or have you I'm thinking nine hundred dollars, but I'm going to knock him down to like 750 when I get there, right? There's going to be pressure, you know, I'm already there. He's been waiting for me I'm looking at it. I go it's got a couple of scratches on it. It's got a couple of scratches on it And um, and I was thinking I'm you know doing a bit of bartering I was out the head in And he opened the door and he went You're that guy on youtube, aren't you? And I went damn, I can't really knock him down in price now. Can I I'm gonna look like I'm gonna look like such an asshole. So I was like, yeah At first I thought I was gonna say no everyone says that all the time you're mistaken, buddy But uh, I couldn't really do that because there's no one who looks quite like me and um, and yeah I couldn't ask because you'd feel like wouldn't you Pete would you still barter or would you I'm terrible at bartering at the best of times, mate. So uh, yeah, I would not I would have as soon as you open the door, he said hey, you're that bloke on youtube I would have like just turned and run without saying a word He bartered his anymore and then he'd have a story for life about the weird time this weird youtube bloke came and then just Say anything. Well, if he's watching any of I think his name is Chad. Thanks, Chad It's been an awesome laptop so far over the last week or two I just realized I had other notes here. I didn't talk about that last song. Is it too late or can I get can I say Yeah, go for it. We got the last song to come up here And I don't want to uh, don't want to remind people because this was about 200 years ago The song was by lj henrik. It was a kind of a pet shop boys aha song go No, I I just think the one thing I thought there because we talked about the vocals And I did we talked about drums and I think and the drums are the bass or the things that they wanted But the one thing I wanted to say about the vocals is the vocals were amazing and awesome They just were buried in the mix So a bit of extra sort of reverb was added to them and they were slightly too low So I think the compression that you added on the drums you could remove from that and maybe throw on the vocals Bring those up just a little bit more in the mix because I just found them kind of buried and the fact that Basically, whenever I hear someone say I'm not too confident with the vocals the vocals are no good in this I know what I'm going to hear. I'm going to hear vocals that are not loud enough in the mix and someone the exact opposite of that That someone that says man, my vocals are so fly. They're a hundred hundred hundred fire fire fire They're going to have a way too loud So it just goes without saying that the people that are actually really good are genuinely very humble and have lots of humility And they tell you that their vocals are no good and they're too low in the mix The people that think they're the next best thing Probably missing it too loud. So I just want to make that point It's very interesting you should say that because it does relate a little bit to a mix tip On on that because I noticed a number of people in the comments when the song was playing We're talking about the fact that they felt there was too much reverb on the vocals, right now I like to think of it like this these days I know for you Pete because I've heard your advice all the time One way you use reverb is to make people feel like they're all in the same room Which is a very good way to use reverb But not always the way you want to think about reverb Especially perhaps for a song like this where no one's trying to give the impression that there was any a band playing together Right, but the thing for people watching You is useful to understand about reverb is if you think of panning That it makes your sound go left and right one of the effects of reverb is it makes it sound further away When you put lots and lots of reverb on things they also can sound distant Now you say to me Mike. Yeah, but what if you want to just say cool kind of effect reverbs makes it sound like it's not too You know, you don't want to make things sound too dead What I would suggest And it's only something I picked up, you know, not not too long ago Is go for delay first go for a short delay like almost like a slapback delay, right just one repeat And use that to first to create a little bit of space You'll find that you don't have to use as much reverb You can still make things sound kind of big But they won't sound quite so far away. Okay, and if you're doing that generally um, I like to Do it as I'm just trying to think out a little bit now Yes, so I normally do it as a send rather than do them as inserts in the channel I normally do it say I now now know that p is going or god What's he talking about? He's going he's going to talk about buses. He's going to talk about buses and garage band doesn't have buses On the bus it was there a pretty show called on the buses. All right, all you then what's got that was That was a show. That was a great. That was a great show on the buses. I Yeah, I'm using of a logic user now You're a logic user now, aren't you? I'm going to send that over to my delay bus right now You know what buzzer right? Let's go back to present day. We've gone back in time Let's go back forward because timothy thomas who was in that chat revealed these methodology for transferring his sound over to Over to cakewalk and putting it in there Happened to notice that I do a show after that called fix my mix and he decided to send in a mix now I am not going to be I'm not going to be around the bush here I think this is one of those songs that needs quite a lot more work than than the previous two and I think timothy Except that and and he'll be very grateful of the advice I didn't tell you the background in any way to prime you for the difference in quality that we had from the tlm 103 earlier But I think let's be fair about it. Let's be a little bit fair about this Timothy is making use of the best of of what he's got here and love iphone or android microphones Ain't great, but anyway, we're gonna have a look at the rest of it and see what we think last Okay, so with this particular song I I can predict that Me and pete are going to have quite a lot to say about this But first of all, I just want to address the artist and say thank you for sending it in I think there's going to be a lot. We're going to say here about this. Okay, so We're going to sort of I think we're going to have to unpack pete And look at you know, just some they'll probably the most important elements of it So yeah, where do you sit for the most important thing that we need to improve hippie? Yeah And I want to say exactly the same thing too that listen to that song What I'll what I'll put out there to start with is that What listen to that song makes me think is that if I've got that demo Well, if that was a demo, I want to get that into and I know we said at the start I'm probably being a hypocrite here that gear doesn't matter gear matters a little bit I want to get that song into just a nice standard two channel interface with some nice clean preamps And record that guitar nice and clean record that vocal nice and clean add some virtual drums in get the timing a little bit more lined up Make sure your guitar's nice and tuned and everything's sharp and ready to go And then make sure that when you're you're singing that That you're singing not within yourself and I say that you know, not to be harsh but to to say that You can almost hear when someone is singing tentatively and that's the sort of song What I think needs a little bit more A little bit more passion like I know it's a bit sort of low key low fire kind of laid back kind of tune But I think some of those higher notes where it just wasn't quite hitting there That sort of accentuated the the tuning Issues that were were in the song there So but in terms of the actual song and I know that we're here to talk about fix my mix So to fix the mix yeah, I think I think it needs some attention But I think it's a cool song like I think it's a good simple arrangement I like the chord progression it reminds me of jack white when he recorded his kind of like low fire session stuff It reminds me a bit of weezer bit of rivers Cuomo when he did some recordings in a hotel room So it does I'm not saying it needs to be pristine You don't need to go into a million dollar studio to record this But I think just getting that quality bump With with just very very basic setup with a $50 microphone and the $50 interface even We'll take this up about 400 percent immediately. Yep. Yep. Absolutely. Um, any else you wanted to say I don't want to Uh, I don't want you to come back on the next show and say It'll be like three shows and I've just been like I just want to talk about song two from the third of March show if I could No, really like the arrangement. I think the yeah, again, it was just Knowing how that was made if I hadn't had no knowledge of that I would be I would be more critical but knowing how that is made I think they've done really really well to get all that in timing to manage bleed Because obviously if you're listening back on one device and recording on another to manage latency and lag Absolute pain in the ass. So to get it anywhere near in time Doing it the way that you're currently doing it is pretty phenomenal. So I think you deserve a pat on the back for that And like you said for having the courage to just get out there and do it and not letting the gear get in the way And say I shouldn't do this Just doing it. So, um, absolutely That's all I got to say about that now Yes, I mean, can I quickly just suggest that for some reason I kept thinking nick cave When I was listening to this, um, I yep, I got nick cave. I wrote tom wates or at lennicole just that real kind of low down real um A darkness to it, you know, there's a darkness to it, which is just very very cool There was something about this musically which just really appealed to me and that was the four on the floor kick drum Just all the way through Right With that guitar arpeggio. Yeah, um, it was very sort of almost mesmerizing is is what i'm going to say Um, I kind of only partially agree with you on the vocals. I think they just are what they are Um, but yeah, you could you could try and add a little bit more dynamics in the vocals. I guess it would be Uh, a good, um, try the I feel really bad because the artist's name has escaped me. Hallelujah Uh, uh, lennicole lennicole could spend a whole career being sort of fairly laid back In what he was doing bob billon still doing it. So uh, so you know, there's a place for that kind of delivery um Somebody use the word and I think it may have been warby early on when uh, she said that she felt the guitar tuning was distracting so, um I do think that we don't have to have perfect performance in everything we do in timing um But a good sort of rule of thumb is where If tuning or timing becomes ever distracting That that's that's when you need to address it, you know, um But yeah, you do occasionally hear, you know, completely and you know, big songs if you listen carefully and i've said it a few times on the show Definitely Adele goes a little bit flat with her vocals once in a while. Obviously doesn't use any kind of Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly Uh, she'll be a bit like that and i've definitely heard even uh, say for example with queens music I've heard a little bit of uh, tuning issues in there with guitars and things like Little when it's just a little bit, you know The vast majority of people aren't going to notice it doesn't matter the performance is there. Um, it's good, but This i'm going to say, uh, timothy When you listen And I think I saw someone mention this even when he popped this track up on facebook the other day someone Spotted the tuning right away and I think he realized you need to address it. Um, and so Definitely particularly on the acoustic That there was tuning issues there A little bit on the vocals as well, but as pete suggests With not great monitoring and that kind of thing the best of us can get pitchy on vocals, uh, for sure And and and I also suspect that the some of the timing issues in there May have been to do with just, you know, not You know not having a setup where you can really monitor what's going on in terms of timing very very well So it would be easy to go out, but you know, none of that should just Should really disheartening timothy from keep doing what you're doing. Um I probably even got to do a video about this, but I'll briefly say now That when I first came to australia in 1997 I had nothing I had a bag of clothes and a hundred dollars and a guitar and I was a busker for a good for a good while And uh, my girlfriend at the time when it became my wife, uh had a computer I didn't have a computer and I used her computer and I installed a little program called cakewalk And I thought what would enhance my, uh, performances I was playing some local bars by this time is the ability to sell some CDs with what I'm doing And and I thought well if I could get something to record my cd Um, I could you know, I could Make more money out of this busking and performing which I did but the point was I I didn't even know much about it then I didn't have an audio interface I think it had a sound blaster 16 in the computer something like that by creative labs and um And I went to kmart and I bought a microphone Which was one of these ones that used to sit on the desk. It had a long Like goose I mean goose neck one it was just Of course gray in color because all computers and stuff were gray or that creamy gray kind of color Cost me 14 australian dollars I remember at the time which I thought was which was a bit of an expenditure for me and I recorded a whole album using I had a acoustic guitar in my vocals using only that microphone And the virtual instruments which I were already available at that point And I sold that for many years. Some people still listen to the album now and come back to me So I still listen to your album and I doubled my income as a busker and as a local performer at the time That's a long story, isn't it? But the reason I say that is I'm so glad that I did that because having to tweak that little kmart microphone And get the best out of it taught me an awful lot about uh, eq and compression Um and and and all the such stuff and and and I do think although I'm not going to In a hurry play the tracks on the show anytime soon, but um But uh, yeah, I do think that it produced a good enough quality. So um, we should we should do fix mics windows 98 pc Actually a special edition. It wasn't windows 98. I think it was windows 95 still at that point. Just But yeah, so um, yeah Show some determination use what you've got make the best of what you've got always That doesn't mean you shouldn't buy better equipment or or or what have you or seek to Um use equipment which can help you get to the end quicker or more easily or what have you Um, but it's not the answer. It's not actually the answer. You know, it's It's true. Yeah Again, the bloke I was talking to you today I I sort of showed him here because it was a security door at the front of this room Which is my bedroom studio and I said to him look even though I've been doing this for six years now This is my studio and I'm not going to move to like a dedicated space and we're going to upgrade because I've seen Folks do that in the past and you can't lose connection with again My channel is for people that are starting out or intermediate and yeah A lot of folks are getting advanced and probably moving on from what I do here But I think it's so important to to be able to be relatable if I had Warren Hewitt's studio with his mixing desk and all the stuff he's got going on I'm not going to be making the same videos and um, yeah The other thing is I keep I keep a little tub here mike, uh, that has two two two things in it In the top of my thing. It's my little memory box. It's uh, if I ever get too big for my boots I look back at this. I look back at my Digitech audio interface is my first ever usb audio interface That I ever used you got your guitar in there no phantom power So you could only use a dynamic mic, but you had three and a half mil outputs there and unbalanced rca this thing cost me about 60 bucks in the early 2000s and uh, I still keep it here I'll never sell this because this just tells me where I came from and then my first garage band recording was A lot of folks will recognize this the og i rig It is literally a headphone jack and a quarter inch plug With a headphone jack on the back so you plug this into your headphone jack and you record so Yeah, if you ever if you ever see me get too high a mighty say oh one needs a 24-bit audio interface before one records anything Just say john's remember when you record it with a 10 dollar i rig and uh shut the By the way, there were swear words in that song. So I'm not the uh couple Nicely placed as well just Some some music. Yeah, there's i'm cool with having the swerries in there so the music really well Yeah, it's a nice little lyrics going on there as as well in that song. I liked the kind of message that was going on there um Just one last thing. Sorry. I've got my notes. You know, I didn't mention it timothy There was a part later on where the in terms of just plain mixed stuff There was a part later on where the overdriven guitar came in And it was just too loud in my opinion Simple as that came in in great spot Uh, it's a nice sound to it. But uh, just to tell you that if you ever rerecord this guitar, by the way And you should ever get the opportunity to Have better equipment. I like the sound. I like the iphone the lo-fi iphone sound on the acoustic guitar It was really really cool Made it made it sound really sort of deep south Kind of stuff there and I enjoyed it very much. So yeah, very cool stuff Yeah, I reckon I reckon round of applause for timothy for for putting it out and not to be patronizing like not at all I think actually genuinely I think that um, it is something more people should do more people did that and got started They would get further along a lot quicker Making the music making music if anyone's fearing what they do just you know, see how brave timothy was and uh, Take some motivation. I don't I don't want to diss the guy who is putting on your security door today You know, but he's he's you know full on breadwinner probably could probably Easily afford equipment and stuff like this, but he's not making any music. Is he timothy's ahead of him here? That's that's exactly right. I showed him. I said, look, there's a focus right there's the stone bear there He's like, what would you recommend it? Like, uh, let me show you. So I'll send you my gear guide I should have sent you my my creative source gear guide, but uh Doug Doug's asking me in the comments here. What is deep south? Well, I don't know what I mean by that really Doug. I'm talking about deep south in terms of, uh, america south music that kind of Yeah, stuff. Yeah Kind of almost country sort of vibe, but Right, yeah, a cash ring of fire. It's not really deep south, but like if you want to commercial Yeah, it's kind of getting me there. I can't I haven't got the right. I don't know which what the right terminology for it is But that's what I came up with Doug accept it By this has been one of the one of the funnest shows that we've done not not just because it's just you and me But I think uh, it reminds me of the old days where we used to do this every week I know it's been a blast that during these good good music good times and Doug's given me an education here the bio bio Sorry, wrong wrong thing the bio But bio bio bio. I can't say that. Is that like I've got to say Doug good on Doug for for being here It's it's about you know, like I said The US isn't it's like about four o'clock in the morning, right? It's about four o'clock in the morning I think this is is a kind of a A nice sort of karma involved here Doug that you had to get up so early to watch the show because it's 7 a.m my time this morning Doug was messaging me while I was in bed telling me about typos I've made on facebook, right? So Doug this is For being a typo nazi. This is come back to bite you now. I did the show purposefully this time for you Doug Nothing to do with the fact that he's uh, he's guest said oh, I can't do it tomorrow morning. Can we do it tonight? It's all my fault. It's all my fault. That's why you're up at four fifth Yeah, deep south like JJ Kale that kind of that you you're on the you're on there killer B Nice to see you by the way killer B. Thanks for being in all the chats and everything Company was a stinger What a great show. I enjoyed it. John Z. I loved having you on here I always do love the way you have this approach to music which is like get it done Don't need that fancy talk or all that fancy terminology or that there was no hint. Did you notice folks during this show? um With with peak john saying I think you need a little lift at about one and a half hertz By about three and a half decibels There was none of that in there from peak johns. He just gives it straight down the line That needs to be louder. That needs to be quieter. Do it That's all it is. I know right and you you got there when you started talking about lofts and rms and stuff I'm just like, I don't know mate just mix it all together till it sounds about right and then bung it out You'll be fine. I never said anything. I never said anything about lofts. You know, you see you're given a way You see your feigning ignorance is what you're doing. I like it. I'm gonna say I have plenty of ignorant I know I have plenty of like genuine ignorance and I don't know why I'm bothering feigning and it's ridiculous I Beautiful man, thank you so much for being here and I know I know you're gonna go off and get your beauty sleep because you You work very very hard every minute. I can get for that beauty sleep. I turned an age I turned an age a couple of days ago and uh, I think almost officially in my mid 40s So how come facebook didn't tell me you turned an age? I think I turned it off Uh, how can anyone know your birthday if you switch your birthday off on facebook? I don't know. I felt guilty. I never responded to anyone. So I think I turned it off But yes, happy birthday. Do you do the on facebook where you go? Even though you're on my friends list, I don't like you that much. So I'm not going to wish you a happy birthday No, because I'm a stubborn bastard So whenever facebook tells me it's blaze birthday. Maybe you should wish him a happy birthday I'm like, maybe you should piss off Facebook maybe I'll decide if I want to wish someone a happy birthday So, you know, it's me me being stubborn that that causes me to not do that. Happy birthday, mate I'm happy. I'm happy that someone's catching up with me finally I'll never quite catch you mate, but uh, I'll give it a red heart Beautiful thanks so much to the people who have been in the chat You've been taken part awesome. I like to see all that activity in the chat Good to see some other people and I didn't actually acknowledge ricky t brown in there earlier Um, but nice to see you in here ricky t brown. He's got his own new youtube channel going on So definitely check that out. He's from the home recording studio zone, of course And yeah, thanks to everyone, especially the people who are here regularly and those who got up early in the morning dug And and and joined and always nice to see now just a quick sort of announcement I'm going to be releasing a video soon as soon as we get off here I'm jumping on uploading a video doing the thumbnail thing and all that I'll be releasing that tonight in about a couple of hours time to do with my giveaway For those of you who haven't entered the giveaway, you've got till the 7th of march to do that That's all I've got to say about that Mr. Johns, I'll see you next time and I'm going to leave the last word with you The last word is the word of the day and it is just effing do it That's all I got to say about that That's the words of wisdom, mate. That's going to be on your gravestone. Just effing do it Well, yeah, it won't be effing will it because you're quite happy to swear in all kinds of circumstances even in graveyards Be good tonight Thank you for everyone for being here and yeah, thank you to those who contributed their music It's super brave of you and you are super courageous and uh, I haven't even done any plugging But yeah, come over studio live today. We hang out. We do stuff like this and it's a lot of fun So I thank you to the folks who hang out with me and with Mike and uh, farewell for everyone Bye now This is what Mike likes to do when I go on a uh, when I go on a rant and I start talking about things He likes to just disappear because he knows that eventually I'll run out of things to say it'll take about Four or five hours, but no, I do I do need my beauty rest. So uh, we'll