 As of the breakfast and plus TV Africa, we head straight to looking at the pages of a National Daily this morning. We have G.D. Johnson joining us via Zoom. G.D. Johnson, thank you so much for being part of the show. That's that. We the people in front of us and we have a daily independent newspaper. Criticism trails federal government's plan to ban Okada to check insecurity. That's boldly written on the daily independent. Respondent says government berefts of ideas to tackle terrorism. Arik Bershola says heads to roll after submitting Kuji attack reports. Let's see how that pans out and divestment. Federal government urges indigenous firms to take over IOC's assets. EFCC to arrange former AGF, others today over 109 billion Naira alleged scam. IPA places two million Naira bounty on IMO. Ebu Beagu commander says there's no seated home today. ICPC to prosecute 3657 civil servants over IPPIS ahead of services quoted to say and reps ask BPE to hold sale of five power plants. Jam releases cut off points for 2022 admission and we're looking at 140 as cut off points for universities and 100 as a cut of points for colleges of education and polytechnics. Passengers vandalize Dana airport property at Lagos airport. I take that again. Passengers vandalize Dana air property at Lagos airport. Airline commences operational audits and just before we move away from the daily independent newspaper 6.7 trillion fuel subsidy for 2023 will deny country capital product. That's what the federal government is saying says debt servicing surpasses revenue by 310 billion Naira in four months. Adelaide that's the governor elect raises the alarm over plot to loot and divert government asset. Let's move away from the daily independent newspaper as we pay attention to the nation. Federal government considers fresh measures to end terrorism to raise or cut the ban to cripple insurgents movement mining suspension likely to court funding. I mean the next question would be we thought we're big on illegal mining and so why is mining going on? Why haven't we clamped on those who are mining illegally? AGF terrorist shift to mining ran some taking to raise funds that's what you find. As the strike 560 billion Naira more needed to pay varsity features and Nigeria orders got 14 billion dollars COVID-19 cash says the World Bank. Federal government takes 3657 civil servants before the ICPC over IPPIS and 200 criminal suspect arrested in 24 days. That's what you find on the nation. The punch would say 6.7 trillion Naira fuel subsidy revenue falls by 1.89 trillion Naira Nigerian phase 12 for times. I mean just imagine what would be going on so fuel subsidy projection for 2023 would definitely we're looking at 6.7 trillion Naira for fuel subsidy and revenue falls by 1.89 trillion as Nigerian phase 12 for times. That's in the punch newspaper. States federal government will be crippled says finance commissioners forum using revenues, service, subsidy, debts, orders, dangers experts are quoted to say. Federal government spending deficit increases you 3.09 trillion Naira says report and NYSE months as two core members die in crash. INEC records 334 pre-election court cases. JAM releases court of says admission ends December 31st and then the people are saying you have a backlog of those who should have started. Lakers policemen assaults and rob driver of 50,000 Naira. That's a lot going on in this country. Stranded woman begs nursing mother for accommodation and sells baby or steals baby. I'd like to see that closely. Okay. And again court permits NGOs to pursue to numbers prosecution. Power generation crushes to three megawatts and federal government probes begins. DSS reports once against protests. And just before we move away from the punch newspaper this morning, pension operators invest 1.99 trillion Naira via bank placement. Well, that's a much we can take this morning on the punch newspaper. We'll just quickly look at the Guardian and we have G.D. Johnson join the conversation. Nigeria on fiscal cliff as debt service trances revenue. Petrol subsidy Naira's 6.7 trillion Naira. Fiscal deficit exceeds 3 trillion Naira in four months. 78% of federal government spending goes into debt payment and personnel costs. Fresh modalities for NNP's remittance to the FAAC on the way and labor governors agree on subsidy removal behind closed doors says Agba. Blames the increasing global energy costs for price instability. Well, there has to be a blame. Benway APC candidate protests against substitution of names on INEC portal and muslim muslim tickets. General overseer threatens fire for inclusion on list of unknown clerics. Sue candidates with false credentials. INEC tells Nigerians and tackles 334 pre-election cases. Delta PDP at the crossroad as two claimed gubo candidate. Too much for us to bear as a country. Nigeria's slow tedious road to Hebel medicine development. Okay. Reps opposes sale of five power plants. chaotic scene at Lagos airport as stranded travellers protests down our air closure. You have some quarter saying probably would have experienced destruction of you know, properties belonging to the airline. That's so much we can take this morning on the front pages of a national dailies that's been made available by our paper vendor. We have GD Johnson joining the conversation. GD Johnson, thank you so much for being part of the show. Yeah, it's a pleasure to be with you. Let's start with the review of the position of federal government in banning of cardanity. And the reason for that is security. In order to cut the use of a cutter for insecurity. Well, I listen to that on the general yesterday was calling for sneak prize of Nigerians that only 20% of Nigerian and in those 20% Nigerian and should be able to make, you know, the immediate sacrifices for over 200 million Nigerian. I wonder where to get on the general got his data from only 20% of Nigerian people living in the cocoon of their of their safe deletion. It's it's over over 80% of Nigerians use a cutter. That's the reality. How many streets, how many of you could be assessed with with very good other than a cutter in Nigeria? Well, let's read and see the quote implication of this ban we have on on the transport system on movement of goods and services and then on distribution and logistic as far as I'm concerned is just easy, easy approach for going to zero and it's reductionism for them to zero it down to to work. Is he work harder that these people used to perpetuate their in us crime? How do they move? How do they move? They are they are guns and other guns and I'm going to do the use. It's just the failure of the security system. That's that's that's just my ticket. That's nothing to do with nobody. That's to do with the failure of the intelligence committee, the failure of the security network that we have that we have in this in this country, a lot of that, a lot of people are going to face that consequence. Apart from that, the economic implication of this ban did no way. You see, this is a medium employer of labor. The unfortunate thing is that these people live in Oslo, they live in Mitama, they live in Oslo, they live in places where Okada's are not allowed. One, two, they have never had public transport in the last seven, eight years. Some of them in the last 24 years, but some of them in the capital and I can't record the last time in Okada because some of them have been in government since 1999 and it is government that has been taking care of the responsibility that has been taking care of their family. So they are far far away from reality. There are a lot of people that have been employed, that are engaged through the use of a lot of artisans are driving Okada because most of them don't have power to pursue their their their various their various streets. So I think government need to give it a second look and to give the second thought. Otherwise, these particular people usually far far, although they said they are winning, they are winning. What we need to do is to review and re-eject our security architecture. There are other countries, they write back in other countries. Why is there no insolvency in Ghana? Where is he not in Nibbani country like Tudu? Where is he not in Guinea? Where is he not in Mali? Where is he not in Senegal? Why is Nigeria there? Why is he not in Cameroon? Why is it in Nigeria? That's the question we should ask ourselves. Who are doing the benefit of these criminal activities? This crime against humanity and crime against the state. These are the questions we need to ask. Who are the beneficiaries? Who are the sponsors? And let's make an example of these of these elements that have that have constituted a major users for a lot of families in Nigeria other than in something to ban in Ghana. That's a lazy lazy man approach to solving the problem and that's reductionism. Another story related to that is the interviewer saying that heads will roll up or submit in the report. We don't need we don't need any even say that if you don't want to solve any problem, set up the problem. If you don't want to get to the root cause, the government wants to buy time for the attention span of people to go over a critical issue, set up a panel and give them weeks to come up with their report so that the attention span of people will be lost over that particular over that particular over that particular matter. Now, why should it be telling us to roll? Nobody has resigned. Nobody has been arrested. Nobody has been prosecuted. So it's just business as usual. You can imagine seven voted money for CCTV to be provided in all our prison is expressing shock and dissolution that CCTV is not who are not available at Kujie prison. How far is Kujie to the National Assembly? Who are those that are responsible for that function? Do they carry out the oversight function in this community? Correctional facility? The money that have been budgeted for CCTV and other other infrastructure and developments that are required this place. What are these money are actually being discussed and whether what they are meant for will be used for? What is tracking? Tracking the budget to see whether actually there is compliance with budgetary provisions. So it's shot the way express and as usual, in no matter in you do I, Nigerians attention will move away from Kujie. It will go to other in due like hiring of leaders or hiring of teachers and the rest of it. You know part of that conversation that talks about the federal government conceding as a means of carving insecurity. That's on the punch is still on the punch and you know the daily independent as well, majorly on the daily independent newspaper. Right. But the second part of it talks about the funds for this terrorist and they've been very big on mining activities. To agree with that because there's been G.D. Johnson a little bit of some kind of maybe story to it because of the reports because of the reports that's been made available that mining is a global concern and because it's a global concern you have some set who are involved in illegal mining because the government will not pay attention of this. They've been excluded from mining activities and so this terrorist actually understand they get into bed with them some sort of collaboration because you need to actually put out the goods majorly in West Africa and Central Africa. There are reports from different entire governmental agencies as well as you know independent reports as regards that collaboration but in all of this is that don't we know don't we have the identity of those who are involved in illegal mining. I mean don't we know that people are involved in it. How come we haven't apprehended them if this is a market and on the other hand do you think that if the government cuts off uh bands or cada as it's been called nationwide it would curb insecurity. You see we are still waiting for the list. I was given to Nigeria by you as sponsors of Kokwara for more than two years now two three years. We have not seen the list not a single sponsor has been identified not a single sponsor has been provided and nothing has been done with respect to that. Now we have different mechanisms that have been put in place by self-problem to trap the flow of illegal illegal form and illegal money in our financial sector. But that it seems due that I engage in this type of business as spirits that cannot be tracked that cannot be traced because you have people they are different types of cashless police and the rest of these are policies that have been designed over over time to cut this criminals and these terrorists having access to credit and having access to on the you have to please don't watch movies. Movies are reflections of reality. My name you see I don't I just don't want to say because the more you do the less you see you recall about the case of them in Zafra state where they were mining and where they mining as a result of mining which led to the death of about 52 children who tell about illegal gold mining that later led to the what I can't record this case but it was a result of illegal mining that led to the water and the way in those communities being contaminated. I've not been there to it. Just this last week we saw a wanted terrorist being given cheat us in Zafra state doesn't have an identity. We knew the people that attended is for as far as I'm concerned government itself is playing its service to to to deal with this issue because all you need to do is to go to the left and right of Nigeria and say so it may belong to future government but you have a question whereby this national this national treasure have been mined by the individual you recall there was a particular case in the southwest where a prominent traditional ruler openly slapped another traditional ruler over over territory. He is used hard to do it. He writes to to to to natural resources to solve it with the rest of the government is just waiting for the single person has been prosecuted with respect to that and that and that's the and that's the reality all you need to do because movies are deflected of what happened when it started or what will likely happen in the society there are movies that have predicted COVID-19. There are movies that predicted 911 before 911 before 911 upon. So we've seen movies that have reflected what is going on in society and what we surely would not naturally and if you watch this movie you see that you have organized crime or that organized crime that state actors are involved in and are not to show Nigeria is not an essential. Alright Jida Janssen let's look at the Guardian newspaper now and on the Guardian newspaper it talks about Nigerian fiscal cliff as debt service transfers revenue it is a huge one because according to the government petrol subsidy is very close to looking at 6.7 trillion Naira and fiscal deficit exceeds 3 trillion in four months 78 percent of government spending goes into debt payment and personal cost it's a lot. Debt servicing and personal cost debt servicing what we just need to do is to look at the convoy of ministers of president of the president of the governor the heads of ministries and department and agents of government and then you see that we have a lot of wastages we have a lot of wastages now i would like to ask this question and i want to ask the government who is subsidizing and what is being subsidized because the issue on this particular subsidy no one seems to understand when the present government was outside government the present government was achieving the previous government of course with matters relating to subsidy unfortunately this government has spent more money on subsidy than any government in history now one of if we are going to spend 6.7 trillion on subsidy later remove the subsidy next year spend the same 6.7 trillion on on refinery build new refinery now you could see the implication of the collapse the near collapse of our oil and gas industry you see the way it has affected the aviation industry you knew what happened with with Dana yesterday when that went on rampage we knew what it does what what it has caused in in air travel in Nigeria i listened to the vice president of the airline owner's association where he said in this for in this issue of death fuel it's not dead but it will cripple the aviation sector now you burn your car down you will cripple the aviation sector u-air system people we need u-air system has not connected all the parts states and region of Nigeria the roads are in a state of dilapidation complete collapse then we're welcome to work as a country if the attention is proper attention is not to the oil and gas sector i can i tell you it's just a matter of an ideal to be like still not be able to fill our credit will not be able to to meet up with our obligations you are 78 that's how many percent you must have 22 percent for capital project nobody wrong situation like that nobody wrong it's not like that but gg johnson yes no no go ahead go ahead now and government is not providing enough explanation and just as far as i'm coming there's a lot of wastages well gg johnson you talk about capital project enough not being for capital project if you want to look at you know the history of our budgeting and how we do budget over time there's really nothing different we haven't really ever paid attention to you know capital projects in our budgeting and there's always it's a phrase that's very popular that says that if you want to see a developing nation on economy then you would want to pay attention to how much has been budgeted for capital project and most of the time if not all the times you look at the budget from you know a very long time 1999 if you want to say we seem to pay attention to uh recurrent expenditure and that's what's used to run government so we just it feels like we borrow money to pay salary and that's what it is what's left to we borrow we borrow money to satisfy the taste of the political elites because we guarantee we all live with them we all see them we knew look i have said this what we want of those that are providing themselves to the in 1999 what's their financial worth and what is their financial world now in 2022 so what we have done is to expand on the next of the political class who have made themselves rich at the expense of Nigeria so they are borrowing money to satisfy their needs to to fund their lifestyle their lifestyle and that of their family how would you be borrowing money for personal cost for recurrent expenditure in order to people borrow money to fund capital projects for example if you build a race system and you borrow money to build the race system that creates a network of let's say mass transit in lingon's for example you to be there for the next 100 years so you can borrow it today and for the next 16 years those that are enjoying it look there for it but you know what they borrow money just to be like the light rate for bad angry your lego's island they will borrow money to build a bfb lanes and buy bfb buses the project you will not see the money you will not see the money will go into private pockets and then to borrow money again to service those steps that's that's that's the reality of public and nutrition in Nigeria across the states across the government even to the government and it's opportunity so about jidya johnson do you think that Nigerians are not bothered about whether subsidy will be removed or not because it feels like you know at this point we're still deliberating say you have another head is saying that labor governors agree on subsidy removal behind closed doors that's what it is should subsidy be removed or not removed looking at the situation should we go ahead and remove subsidy do you think that Nigerians would be okay what are they subsidizing petrol no come back to the record all we need to do is to do a content analysis of tv program program and deception of this administration when they move it from 97 to 145 what were we told when the prices of petrol was high from 97 to 145 what will we go there's no subsidy of housing there's no company on this you there's no subsidy on death if we're so what are they subsidizing i'm asking you this president government met it at 97 they let the protest when it was when you're not right the world and one night or something around that figure i didn't want that one of 120 they let the program the same Nigerian group these same people in government and when they came to power they said it's not sustainable they said they removed it and we moved to 145 so who is deceiving who these are public records this is not given to us and so the media should not help them to amplify the lie this is ultra deception as far as i'm concerned because according to government when the classification they provided in increasing the price of tms or that they are removing the subsidy how many times do you remove is it okay is there is there another one for you move once you have removed something can you remove from what you have removed again maybe we remove no we don't use the government in perpetrating lies we hold the society a truthful account this question government said that they have removed subsidy when it was actually 197 to 145 now it is 197 that they are selling it so which subsidy are they paying i want to know i i i i am giving the government the benefit of doubt i don't know i just want to be enlightening and i want to be adequately informed and i i deserve to be informed but my government because i am the employer of those in government we are the employers it is people can employ them we are the ones that are putting them to be in charge of the affairs to rule to to rule over this nation to superintend over these nations up here jude jansen quickly as we cost this conversation down now and on the punch we get back there again it talks about revenue falls by 1.89 trillion nair uh nidren's face tougher times because in all of this now states and federal government will be crippled or we're crippled this is what you know the finance commissioners forum i quote that to say uh you know national forum of finance commissioners you're saying that you know it's it's not going to be easy i mean it feels like we're we're into it right now maybe what we're faced with is it's just a little because uh first of all you want to look at the fact that there's a new identity for the n and pc and we also hear reports that we don't know what the state of remittance would be who the n and pc still be remitting to uh the coffers the national coffers and what happens because you know that states would always go every other time you know to the federation account to get you know the share and share all of that and that's what they are dependent on because states are not really self-sufficient apart from taxes and what are you taxing now not the end of the day so what do you make of this situation just in a minute don't be kind to me with government cosmetic uh policies remember the fund traders around the era so the n and pc privatization what what what our government provided comes no matter how many cosmetic you put on a chimpanzee you go to uh you put on on the baboon do you go to a share similar attributes with what's up here it should still be baboon so don't be kind to me with what government is doing it's just government is just trying to score the political point with the n and pc to buy the good within the era it's there's no outright and they have a steady company on the floor we don't talk a thing or we may not talk a thing but i just to buy shares you do all of that because it's messy in one of the stories they are to the general they are the general they are counter general of the federation the former one would would be arranged by ircc you saw the amount of money is two that's just the account general now imagine the director of finance in all ministries and departments alleges of government if one individual who steal that amount of money and there's no there's no there's no red flag being raised there's nothing within the system to contain into steal that huge amount of money then you know this mess we have found ourselves well gdg you recall the one that was appointed as acting accountant general who came out and said and released the report the government has been borrowing money to pay salons of staff for the past few months what happened to him gdg awesome well we have to let it slide at this point thank you so much thank you thank you very much it's a pleasure all right thank you you too gd johnson uh we have is speaking with gd johnson and it's a pleasure we look forward to sharing his thoughts and some of the big stories that we're making the rounds next week all things being equal uh that's where we call it a wrap on off the press for the week we take a breakdown but just before that break let's tell you what happened today in history and when we return we'll be looking at the outbreak of my bro virus in garner