 What is up hot makers welcome to hot makes where we take hot people we talk about hot things that they do maybe in the heat I don't know I don't know what the temperatures like over where Kirby exists but I'm from the edge of tech and this is Caleb from Geary electronics no Geary electronics I love that time out time out did you say we take hot people we take hot people we take hot people and show the hot things that they make that's that's what it is specifically exactly what we do in it's definitely not us yeah yeah yeah so housekeeping front of the top of the show how you doing what are you up to I am I am great I'm actually I'm actually starting Prince starting Prince like up to right now I just like we're while you were intro-ing I was hitting go on a print that I needed I need to get done and well you talk we're gonna go through the intro yeah okay so as always links are always in the description of the video for all the things we talked about in today's show including the hot mix that we're gonna show off later there's a link to the big master doc of all the hot mix there everything that's been tagged if you enjoy the show consider joining or donating to the shows Oreo fund if you there's a link to that in the description as well I think not box not nightbot is throwing it out on the hot mix channel it's the edge of tech PayPal link but if you include the text hot mix we can dedicate it to the show so that we can take care of some of the admin stuff we also have super chats and stuff but YouTube takes a lot of money so you know I just pulled my phone out of my pocket and my flashlights on oh I thought I was getting I thought I was getting warm I was like hey is that your flashlight or you see me in a little warm in here and then last but not least make sure you're watching and subscribed over on the main hot mix channel we're still simulcasting between this and the edge of tech channel but there's a link in the in the double dedu at the bottom we've got a one we've got a just over a thousand subscribers and we're continuing to grow so let's keep that going yeah yeah yeah what are you printing what do you got well I want to talk about that when we talk about when we talk to our guests about okay about his very large item so I want to bring it up then excuse me our guest is we bring on hot people to show off hot things and this one has a large item yeah you know I we intro to it or you intro to it in the teasers for the tonight and yeah he has a Guinness Book of World Record I believe and I think that's what a lot of people will recognize because a lot of people saw that making its rounds but I have a little bit of history with the Kirby Downey name and I'm and I'm looking forward to just dumping that on him well I think we could either talk to him behind you know behind his back or let's bring them in let's just do it it's it's fast it's let's just we're bringing him in early tonight because well I have to wait yeah all right please gentlemen mr. Kirby Downey himself has gone man yeah holding we are doing okay it's been already sweating so no pressure wait are you sweating because we brought someone hot in or because it's hot where you are because it's hot where I am okay just making sure I mean you started it like that so I'm literally in a workshop barn and I did not ask anybody to turn the air conditioning on before I got back to the house so it's currently working on the temperature in here well it's middle of the night so it's nice and cool yeah it's been night for you really breeze yeah which that's fine you know a lot of makers of those those night house the guys the people that really just work burn that midnight oil work late yeah you can't stop you go to Ben you you listen to your pretty like what was that noise you sit there you watch for the next hour yeah speaking that I'll be right I started for right before the stream and I'm hoping there's one more in there I was gonna get get something on the test for a test and then I was like oh I didn't start that one but I'll do it later so man like Caleb was super pumped yeah Caleb was super pumped to bring in he has some history he wants to talk to us about you know I'm quite interested here about this and yeah which I'm super pumped for I didn't I've been I've been terrible the last few weeks here about like watching anything about our guests especially like we have guests that I'll invite guests Caleb invite vice versa and I'm like I don't look like Caleb says I don't really look ahead because I want to be surprised to yeah there's one thing that caught my attention it was you know the Guinness record thing and I want to talk about that I know a lot of people have probably like even if people don't necessarily know who you are I know that they've seen that so we should start there before we go any further who are you what do you do and then then we'll jump right into it we'll find you can't be down he docked on where most things just go to but yeah it was like 2014 I kind of started tinkering you know kind of putting the pieces together that I knew how to design a solid works and I knew about 3d printers solid works I can make whatever I want with 3d printers I can put it together and I can have whatever I want so I started designing props for video games that I was a fan of and I thought let me put this on reddit and a couple of people on reddit had a look at it now like they want this too so I ended up working for my manufacturing and I was uploading loads and loads and loads of models to them mostly destiny related content and that got me involved with Joel Telling and Barnacals and that stuff when destiny first came out and I started working with a lot of the destiny youtubers here in the UK and that led me to work with PlayStation and that to create props for their releases and all that and it's a lot of fun like I'm the the angle that I took it at is that I was creating props that you could take off your printer and paint and it looked amazing I wanted to create that entry level look and the amount of effort needed I mean you can sit there sound for hours and hours and hours but that can scare away a lot of people but if you can show people this is what you can get away with minimal efforts you have an amazing looking prop that I like my thorn I'm still every day getting people commenting about how amazing it is and how they've printed it at some point that one of the the one of the destiny guns that I designed Thunderlord which was a massive machine gun I ended up getting in contact with the guy who designed it for the game and he was blown away with it and eventually someone at bungee printed it for that guy and he was ended up running around bungee printing you know the guy that designed the gun for the game running around with the gun that I designed to be 3d printed that's so cool which was really interesting that got me involved with a lot of a game developers in that to do their releases and one of them being the doom 2016 where Bethesda commissioned me to make a life-sized doom BFG which I did it only took I think 12 maker bots about 40 days print how many days I think it was about 40 days because we're printing all sorts of stuff in between only 40 days yeah and then we we assembled it over two days while they had a camera crew filming it and six months later I found out I was in the Guinness book world records were because of it for the heaviest and the largest prop you were doing that that was Bethesda Bethesda basically took out a double page in the gaming edition and they had a bunch of world records and there was my prop and then if you Google my name followed by Guinness World Records I'll pop up on those two records that was fun that is awesome yeah that was my question about that I was like I thought you like had more direct input into it but really you were along for the ride and and you got in pretty much a lot of things that I do is just along along for the ride Etsy says 40 days and I complain about anything I have to print over four hours yeah so it's actually I didn't I wasn't expecting it to tie in so well but you mentioned I'll just show it off now you mentioned showing making prints that showing people that you can get cool results with minimal effort and not doing all that sanding and stuff I actually I didn't tag this but I'm working on this little project here this is a this is a raw print in gold silk I have not painted this I have not sanded it nothing it is raw material and I my goal here was just to make it and I've got the back of the head that I'm gonna make I've got some things I'm gonna put on the inside I'm not gonna wear it it's just gonna be display piece I was gonna say how you gonna you got to tuck the beard in there as well I think we'll be amazing is if you took the beard out through the mouth Dennis Crawford thank you so much 10 bucks I wanted to throw that out there to the paper thank you sorry I didn't mean to cut you off all right no you're good so you got started with was that before or after you got started working with SolidWorks so this around that time that's when SolidWorks got involved the community manager at SolidWorks was a huge destiny fan her husband is actually a big destiny YouTube at this point and yeah from that they were kind of like cool we really like the guns that you make but we can't talk about the guns that you make which was kind of awkward so we discussed it I said I've got these really cool swords that are made from destiny and they said cool we want to write an article about the swords that you made in that stuff and put that onto the SolidWorks blog site now SolidWorks blog site at that point was always just like blocks of engineering material you know just engineering type of stuff and here's this there's me with some swords and that actually broke the blog website with the traffic that it actually got in nice so I didn't know about this until years later again just going on for the ride and yeah since then I've just I started doing a bit of content for SolidWorks and being like you know here's a cool idea here's how to learn the basics of it you take this idea and run with it see what you can do and create that inspirational bit of content that you know someone could looks like hang on if if you've done it this way if I do it this way and add these I can make it bigger and better like that's just like just like the idea of not finishing my props properly it's that you know here's an idea run with it I mean the amount of people like message me and say oh make this gun next I'm like I'd rather sit down with you and show you how to make it then you just pay me to make it because you know then the community grows you get more out of it than just a cool prop I like it absolutely a train of thought too that's that's like that's a lot of the makers in the space not all of them but a lot of them are like that right we rather everyone rather help each other out yes you need to gain the knowledge and spread that knowledge that to be like yeah I made this here you go right yeah yeah I mean like you know doing these props I ended up going to these events in America for solid works in that and hang around with these engineers and you know you there was it was a time in Dallas I was sitting at a table building Lego with a guy talking about Lego I mean like I don't know if you know I like Lego and like I sat and chatted with this guy for about an hour about Lego and favorite sets and how that you know just the Lego bricks were made and going into that it was only at the end of the conversation I realized he was an engineer from SpaceX and you know it's really clicked in my head it's like we're you know everybody that goes to this events you know you're there for for example going to a 3d printing event you're there for 3d printing but you're making those connections about the nerdy things that you are really passionate about and that's what I like about the maker community is using this technology to bring out your passions and really showed off and I've always been an advocate to say like you know I you know if I can make this stuff so can you printers are accessible design tools are accessible and you know being involved closely with solid works and being like you need to push to the maker communities and that and eventually they release the maker addition that's out now they starting to see that the makers are a core part in my whole ideology is that your future engineers aren't going to come from you know people that want to go into engineering they're going to be the people watching YouTube videos and seeing people like Joel telling doing stuff on 3d printing and then Uncle Jesse making cool helmets and then they learn about that and then they start to learn how to design in those tools and then they you know from there like how can I make this a career and how can I make you know this fun hobby my business and I've seen it happen a lot of prop makers start off with making props and one of my friends he now works for bungee making their official props for their websites and their launches and that stuff and it all started with him making making halo helmets and suits and in college so that's kind of kind of touching back on the Lego part of things to you that's like why I enjoy being active in local Lego like adult Lego groups because you get these big minds you know these be these adult people minds that get in and they say oh I know how to do this that in the other so I'm going to combine it and display it in a cool way and then these little kids come up and they're like oh I could do that with my toys at home the next thing you know you've got a whole new generation of stem kids basically I mean what's amazing there's a whole network and very big in the states for solar works users called the solar works user group network swagger all around the states in almost every city there's a group that you can meet and you can chat with designers and that stuff and you know I through all of the solar work stuff I now run the one the user group network for London and I'm the European committee rep to help grow the network in in Europe and you know every year we have big meetings and that we get you know fun people I like to get makers involved but you know makers in a room next to engineers one of the most amazing kind of moments for me was Sophie Wong she was presenting at a user group meeting in Seattle and she was explaining how she would you know wrap an arm in or her chest in cling foam and then duct tape and then cut it off to get the pattern to make a pattern yeah and then sit you know scan that in put that into something into a tool like solar works and sketch it out laser cutting a aerodynamic engineer a guy who works for Boeing who does a lot of aerodynamic stuff audibly said wow like he was blown away with how she's worked around surfaces to do this kind of stuff that is cool yeah so I mean you put these people in in in a room together and they learn from each other I mean I taught myself solar works I didn't I studied product design and that but I wasn't taught solid works and from that I have a unconventional way of using solid works and that's taught me a lot in that and it's taught me enough to kind of show different ways of designing and different ways of looking at the tools so there's a lot of tools like you know they're solid works fusion 360 a lot of people use tinker CAD I mean there's there's mesh mixer like there's a ton of different ones out there what made you settle on solid works and and you suggest that's kind of a dumb question saying you're on a committee and all that you suggest people learning how to use it works yeah yeah in university I was you I was learning a unigraphics and I didn't like it and the guy that I was living with he was studying mechanical engineering and he had solid works so he's still on my computer and that's the reason why a solid works just that's the tool that I had available there's no really you couldn't download a free design tool I think sketch up it just came out at that point you would download a design tool and now like it's it's just I've always used solid works but I've I've dabbled a bit in rhino I've messed around in a bit in Z rush to do organic stuff this is solid works is my tool that I use and like a lot of what you can do in solid works you can do in fusion you can do it in on shape and that stuff I mean a friend of mine he's got a channel called to talk to me and every year he has a design cad e-sports tournament that's currently running now fun combination of things so he comes up with these cool shapes and people have to quickly 3d model it and then give him the mass of the pot and yeah he's got like 36 people from around the world competing all using different tools and different design different design softwares that's cool that's awesome so I mean that's it doesn't matter what tool you do I'm like the best analogy that I've ever you know spoken about you ask a hundred designers to design a duck end of the result you're gonna get a hundred ducks but each duck is gonna be different I love that exactly right yeah I mean I get I have access to a free membership to a free version or whatever of solid works for for being a member of the EAA you know thing and I never I haven't I haven't even opened it yet like I never downloaded I haven't opened it it's kind of intimidating like where you start in a situation like I could it could be fusion it could be any of them but where do you start just opening it messing around or so I I I've never been the kind of person that can learn really from just opening a software just pushing buttons I need to go into it with a goal and being like I need to make something off this I need to turn this into something so if I am learning a new software I need an end goal and that kind of pushes me to you know to to create something but you know create that thing then it's on to the next thing and the next idea I'll have I'll try and come up with some stupid reason to do something I've ever done you know like make it super complicated out of some twists and that stuff and then it's like cool now I've got to spend some time to figure it out University was quite a good time to experiment with this kind of stuff you know each time I had a new design project I would come up with an idea that I had no clue how I was going to make and get and I would experiment with it each time you just get a bit quicker and quicker at those things that you've learned already and then that you spend your time experimenting and learning and we're an age now where there's just loads and loads of tutorials online there's for you got you got read it you've got the SOLIDWORKS forums I mean you've got so many places to get information now that's you know you can you can learn from there awesome I'm I might have to do it I'm just intimidated and time is a factor too Andrew S turn it up that the problem is you haven't turned it up to 11 yeah that's the problem anyway if it's too loud if it's if you feel out it's too old does that go the opposite direction if it's too quiet you're too young I mean I can turn myself down a little bit no I'm just giving him a hard time he said Jim and Caleb are too quiet and Kirby is just right I was like okay sounds like we need to turn Kirby down so we I don't know if you can hear that lawnmower in the background no Liz just showed up fantastic so I wanted to talk to you for a quick second about five years ago first of all it's funny that you mentioned like like Barnacles and Uncle Jesse and Joel telling because like those are all guys that we've had on the show multiple times in the past so like I'm surprised that we haven't that I hadn't reached out to you already especially considering the fact that I the first file that I printed of yours was thorn five years ago and I actually made that for Barnacles he took it yeah he took it to a convention of some sort I can't remember what it was and I wasn't I didn't really know him that well at the time he was a friend of the company he wasn't my friend yet and he reached out to the company I was working for because he wanted to bring some sort of prop with him to this event that he was going to so I made this YouTube video five years ago of printing and sanding and finishing and I modified it so that I had some lights in it and stuff too right because of the time your file I don't think your file had lights in it was just meant to be separate pieces yeah together and I finished it all up and I mailed it to him and he did a few quick like Instagram videos about it and showed it to build a ran while he was there because he shared a hotel room with him and stuff and I remember like I was like I think that was that guy and I went back like all those years ago at that five-year-old video and I in that video I'm like yeah this was designed by Kirby Downey and I'm like man I have him on the show on Monday this is awesome after all this time I actually also I've got your cutaway model of the AT-AT I know there was a few years ago that you did that but I've got that resin off screen back here yeah that was a lot of fun that was a simple example of like AT-AT is one of my favorite vehicles in Star Wars and I was like I want one so I made one robot space camel yeah and like I always believe that I did it before Lego did because the big one does the same cutaway stuff so I feel like Lego copied me on that one like I totally copied you on that one that's what I heard. Inspired by. Yeah it's just it's that idea of why not you know if you want to make something why not I mean I've got little tiny little mini milk crates because I wanted one so I just designed one. I took one of the oh that might have been your design too because I took one that was about that size and I scaled it up just a little bit and I used that as a pen cup at work I wonder if that was your design. I haven't released these these are just for me I saw someone make them and I was like that's cool and you know that's a good way to find some inspiration like you know I'm not gonna you know rip off someone else's design but I look at that I mean like I want to make one I want to see what I can get away with I wanted to see I mean these are printed on really expensive work machines and I just want to experiment and play around with them try different colors I don't know what I want to do with them. When I went to school for when I went to school for graphic design one of the things that one of my instructors told me that I still kind of put into practice to this day is the concept of if you're having a hard time kind of coming up with an idea you know you create your mood board you create this collection of imagery that is similar to what you want to look for or similar to what you want to do that gives you the same concept and vibe and then you just study something for a little bit study three or four of them for a little bit and then step away for a half an hour and then come back and try to draw it from memory and then see where the similarities are and see where the similarities aren't and those are the things that stuck with you as the audience member or as the as the consumer. I know it's stepping away from it for a little bit because you know when you're creating something and making something you you spend so much time upfront with it looking at it you know where all the imperfections on you you know when you hand this to someone else and you think oh they're gonna hate it's and they they look at it as an overall product it's oftentimes those little details make you feel like it's not done but like it's a lot of times our 80% is everybody or our 100% is everybody else's no our 80% is everybody else's 100% I couldn't get that out of my mouth I got it yeah if I did that I would come back and I'd be like okay let me let me just buy memory yeah this is a this is an Ewok that's my drawing that's my skills I'm not sure yeah I don't know he would come back and draw his best interpretation of a bamboo lab printer and it'll be trying somehow no I am terrible with that kind of stuff and that's why I like that's why I really haven't dove too much into you know into the design stuff because I just I suck at like drawing and that kind of stuff and I just feel like I don't know I feel like you have to have a little bit of that maybe I'm wrong maybe I'm crazy my wife let's see she she has been teaching yourself tinker cat like they're just messing with your cat right and you took one of your bamboo is home to you didn't you I did more morpheus lives at home now cool yeah and and morpheus lives at home and and she's been working on stuff and she's just been going like today I got notifications that you know three different times that my that my printer that morpheus stopped was done you know finished printing and she's just been like printing and iterating and printing and one of the things she's doing stuff recently like she just did this and she's just trying to model one of those like hanging yeah basically a chandelier kind of thing right and she's making a beach house she works she does a lot of miniatures Kirby and she's making a beach house and she wanted she found a lamp that she likes or a chandelier kind of thing that she likes and she's like I'm gonna figure out how to do this and then she obviously beaded it and wrapped it and all that something I'm super proud of that she's super super proud of she made this whole thing with the exception of the sink and it's also really printed except for the sink oh yeah and the two handles right and can she that was her inspiration and then this is what she ended up with well done really well done hinges you can do a lot in a simple software like think again you just talked about this last episode with the model trains and stuff yeah she she said I'm gonna I'm gonna figure this out the countertop was a separate piece because she wanted it to be a separate piece so she could make it white like the countertop we saw she you know printed it fitted it painted it like all that stuff but she did it all right in tinker cat so now I'm like with you talk about solid works I'm like I so cool to see this you know yeah I mean like I always find that's like a natural progression you buy a printer you print all the things on thingy verse and factory and print yeah right then you're like what else can I print what can I make for me you go tinker cats and sketch up and that I mean at work we've got a customer that does the most highly detailed model excavators and all made in sketch ups oh that's cool like working like small-scale replicas yeah small-scale replicas that will go like I'm not too sure where they they get placed but yeah he just builds his really cool high-detail stuff I mean I've got a friend that's an absolute wizard in tinker cat I can make any good lightsaber look amazing compared to what I can do in solid works again with that drawing ability I would just suck at that I need a copy something that's my I'm gonna start scanning things me like what I did reverse engineering is also awesome way to learn is kind of like yes something like how was this made I mean quite often the the props that I make from video games or movies you know all I have is screenshots and that stuff and I'm gonna figure out how to recreate those shapes and how to bring them to life and quite often the especially video games like video games don't care about how physics work they don't care how hinges work or anything like that you've got to figure out how to actually make it work there are a lot of video game armor designs especially in the halo universe where if you were to make that in real life you would just have to hold your arms up like that kid in a Christmas story because in the game the biceps will just phase into the chest piece but in real life you can't do that yeah I mean we've watched a guy named impact props yep yeah I've got one of these helmets I've actually got to paint it's and that's cool so he's a solid works user as well and him and I hang out every year and our solar works convention and his suits like on the screen looks amazing but when you get up close that's where you start to see it's it's foam it's it's literally just foam and you really get to get to see kind of like how much the camera can hide away the details and that stuff and you know you look at the how films are made in that and how you know it looks amazing and looks like metal on screen but you know you can get away with a lot and we do a lot of props as well for work at for certain films in that I know some of them were for the flash a lot of the background props and that stuff and nice yeah they would use all sorts of technologies in a house and out of house to make their props and it's all just usually 3d printed or 3d printed and then cost awesome do you have anything near like with you that that you've created and you can show us like what are you working on next I'm cross-stitching at the moment. That's awesome, like Sarah's going to see this. So I'm cross-stitching a let me take a photo the other way this is about 6% of what I'm making of a massive 151 all the original generations and that's terrible that's so cool like that's awesome as a maker just trying a little bit my hands always need to be doing something like yeah that's why I enjoy Lego because it's that kind of thing that's much cheaper than Lego but I mean the latest thing that I made was these little crates if somebody asks what do you collect I collect hobbies yeah yeah yeah I've been there I've got drones and a little cupboard over there and that was supposed to be a thing I was supposed to build all sorts of stuff quite honestly I don't make a lot of things for myself I've got like some projects and plastic tubs up there of things that have been experimenting but quite often it'll be something just like these crates which is the latest thing that I've been messing around with it was kind of like I want to make these to be 15 minutes to model it up I printed a couple I've got more on my shelf and I just don't know what to do with them though it's a tricky I have a bit of ADHD in terms of like short tension span so I'm kind of like this is great and then it's kind of like okay I'm bored I want to do the next thing now this is Iron Man home it's somewhere I was trying to find it I've got the FDM version but I printed one at work which means that no effort required and you get amazing results what I have a motivation when it comes to that kind of stuff when it like if it's somebody else's project I want to work on it where if it's my project it'll sit there forever yes yeah I mean like my printers are somewhat collecting dusted work it does to my cover so I just print things at work now you know you you're talking about work can you say where you work yes I work at a company or what you do how about that yeah so I work for a company called 3d print UK so after doing all of the props and that stuff I decided I want to do 3d printing professionally I want to make a career out of this I want to work with printers yes a lot of people want to do but can't I mean it's not easy it's very very I don't want to say closed off but it's very it's not a big enough industry so the company I work for is 3d print UK and we were basically a bureau similar to shapeways but we specialize in just SLS or powder-based technologies so we got four HP MJF printers and we've got I think it's 12 SLS your machines like in your title that's where we're printing you know 140,000 parts a month essentially yeah our specialty is batch production we want to be bridging that gap between you know the person who's just started for an FDM comes up with a concept wants to grow up grow that product into something that can make hundreds of but they don't have the ability to go for tooling for injection molding or anything like that so we produce kind of injection mold type parts and that means that I get to sit and manage a bunch of industrial grade machines in that so it's a different world but you with the facility like we have and makes it accessible to anybody I mean it's cool you could never really have an SLS machine in your garage it's too messy there's so many peripherals you need and so many other machines can you can you explain what makes an SLS machine so good like I mean like the quality that comes off those things is amazing but if if someone hasn't seen or heard about it how would you explain SLS so what what helps it is that it hides the layers FDM it builds the layers one on top of each other so you get those definite lines with SLS for example the laser penetrates about three layers deep and that fuses that the heat of it also around it melts the the powdered plastic around it the beauty of SLS is no supports everything suspended in powder which means if you if you're printing something like this I can put parts inside of it's like I've got a there's a little lip on it there that was printed like that I don't need to worry about that that lip as well so you can start you know you don't have to worry about overhangs or anything like that anymore you can you can you a lot more freedom for the shapes that you want to try and create you can get like the detail in resin parts you're still going to have supports that you're going to have to snip out and areas to clean up and SLS you don't have to worry about that yeah it's not as like it's not as crisp as resin resin is very good for nice crisp like edges in that probably limited to the size of the grains right yeah it's it's it's still a bit of graininess to it but we have like it's almost like a big drum sandblast that rotates that cleans all of our parts and we got industrial dyes to do all the coloring and that stuff all the stuff that like I said if you're gonna have that in your garage you can't have all these extra machines and I mean each build producing hundred to five hundred yeah each build we can put for hundred to five hundred parts in a build well I mean that's massive yeah that just allows us to have massive repeatability you can you know take a big part put in the center and then there's tiny little parts from other people all around it you know take advantage of as much space as possible versus like with fdm which is one at a time sometimes why I mean you essentially have a vat we'll call it a vat of powder and a laser shooting into that said powder yes to essentially melt and weld together your parts yeah that is that a good way to draw some picture of that yeah here's what I'm gonna draw you a picture real quick what you're talking I mean it's it's it's a big oven in the end like it sits at about 170 degrees the laser tips it to about 171 degrees to melt it so it's just below melting temperature and then you need you don't need a powerful laser to actually melt it and the trickiest part is the cooling process solid yeah there you go big thing it looks like it would work yeah this right here my work again this right here he's like how did you get that picture of our warehouse this is what I call a solid work yeah you say the same joke I just made oh I didn't sorry it's just it's cool how that how that works and the parts look so good yeah maybe I'm thinking maybe I'm thinking in the limiting small brain terms of FDM and resin but maybe you don't have to deal with this at all but what is it so if you have like how many parts is she could fit in one go usually we average between about 100 to about 500 parts so 500 parts in one print what if failures like absolutely nasty I'm so messy it's so bad because you got this perfect little bed with this metal on that moves across to deposit the powder and if like if an eyelash gets caught in that pattern sticks up that blade will then pick that up and drag it across all the parts out of the powder and then if it's hot enough sometimes it'll wrap around the blades and then you go to sit with the heat gun in a little handsaw and cut the plastic away so it gets really really messy any kind of small contamination can cause problems so you got to be quite cautious I bet you that's not cheap when it goes wrong like that a lot of our builds we average in terms of value about 2,000 pounds per build British pounds so yeah it's very important to kind of avoid failures I mean the MGF machines are incredible in terms of similar to kind like your your new approvers there's so many sensors on it that it makes it fail proof in a way because it detects what problem before it's going to happen with the SLS machines they like your older you know kind of ender printers where you know they just go if you just you know a prayer and a wish and you know it'll still keep going but a duct tape here and you're good can you while it's going and I know we're taking a lot of time talking about the SLS but while it's going can you even see what it's doing I mean like yes well sort of it's similar to resin where you can just see the layer happening in picture just looking at your FDM printer but only seeing the layer that is currently printing sure I mean yeah it's a lot of places kind of keep all this kind of stuff is just that in real money Google can tell me that yeah how much is that in little chocolate coins wrapped in gold foil I don't think Google has a I mean I can find out how many Google's got a converter to find out how many horsepower is converted to duck power so that in the US dollars that's US dollars two thousand pounds of sterling would be two thousand five hundred fifty six dollars and sixty two cents yeah lots there you go so now I'm gonna look up British pounds to chocolate coins how much does the average chocolate coin cost he was asking about Oreos to or is where does that you're going to divide the pack yeah I can't use is like that to me I will do this math oh boy with or without water what with water water yeah it's thing no I love I love it and did you like dunk it in a river when you're out like on a hot day or you know if you need to soften them up you could like maybe we just broke we just broke a I'll take it in tea to we just broke her be I don't um yeah so Jim has this thing where he wants Oreos but he's in a hurry so he just grabs a handful of Oreos and runs them under the sink real quick and then shows them in his mouth and leaves Caleb's dad gave this to me this is it this is the emergency pack emergency survival kit just in case I need that you know water it's oh yeah okay should I say should I even bring up the thing that I do though Sarah's giving me the stank face right off-screen thank wait did you say stank stank face yeah okay with this teen out of K okay just make it sure that's the one that I got I told you we have people on this show I love it I love it I mean I was tempted to eat some like ghost pepper stuff as well since did like you're gonna make it hot yeah I mean I do have to say this I don't know if Dan Adams is watching right now but I used Dan Adams recipe from Murph to make some jambalaya Friday last well Thursday night I brought it to work on Friday jambalaya what was that what's wrong with jambalaya now what am I saying isn't it jambalaya you're crazy talking he said jambalaya like you're playing instruments can say it jambalaya all day I don't know what it is I will promise you Kirby's for the UK he doesn't even know what it is it's basically rice spices meat I thought it was like me like Jay here yeah it's like a it's like a Louisiana where's that say basically what does it say J8 where's your glasses Jay I can't see it J a m b a l a y a how how else do you say it jambalaya that's what I said just like Dan saying it it's jambalaya I like jambalaya better by the way jambalaya anyways jambalaya so I so I I made some I Dan Adams made it for us at at Murph a couple days in a row like big pots of it and handed it out it is really good it was spicy but really good I just want to throw it out to Dan's we got on food and I had to thank Dan I actually sent him a picture behind the scenes of me making it in the pot of your giant of the what did you say earlier the huge item what did you say at the beginning of the show I don't know you said something about a huge member or something yeah so uh before we get to hot makes um and Caleb derails us completely uh no is there anything you're working on currently that you can actually talk about for anything like production or any of that stuff so with the solarworks user group network they have a meeting every year called slug me which is the solarworks the the the solarworks largest user group meeting ever which they kind of twisted around and made it the longest and they did like a 24 hour one around the world absolute madness but this year's one in september is going to be focused on the solarworks youtube channel so um currently we're they're all in the planning process and i'm trying to help them out and the whole idea is that they want to create a product in solarworks live while having makers actually build it um as well um that'll be cool that'll be cool i'm trying to keep pushing that kind of like get the makers to make the things um i mean this year 3d experience world they had all makers here section where people could make things and learn about resin casting and all that um so i mean that's kind of what i'm doing and i always uh supporting a magic wheelchair and working on different projects with magic wheelchair uh a few years back we we built a um a speeder bike that goes about 40 miles an hour for a kid that was wild um last year we did a well the year before we did a dragon last year we did a really cool um kind of like touchpad and always raising money for it i think this year we raised close to 30 000 dollars for magic wheelchair um that's awesome that's cool yeah because you know i shaved my beard but it's bacharini it's great um but for that we were eating lots of hot stuff we did the hot ones challenge and then i did the like the one chip challenge with the ceo of solidworks no that like a 15 dollar chip yeah to raise money for for magic wheelchair so i guess what was that it's 12 pounds or something well we did in america a friend of mine's like here that's a heavy that's a heavy chip what it's 12 pound chip not to bring it back but listen oh he brought up the jambalaya this is this is what i made so it's it's it's a box do we have a jambalaya off it's a box we need to have an episode where we're just all making jambalaya yes that's a great idea it's a box that has like your rice and all the spices and all that stuff in it and then you add like two and three quarters cups of water and whatever you meet you want to it some oreos and you can add more stuff you can add you can add vegetables and but who eats vegetables look at me i don't eat vegetables um just this is this is all i need right here you meet we were talking about jerky before the show and i got real hungry yeah um yeah i need to go to clover later for something but i think i might go to walmart instead now that you're saying that there's that fancy jerky there jambalaya add some oreos and it's jambalaya uh got it do you want to there you go get an a net and cook it on the bed i had okay so quick quick story before we get the hot mix i had a co-worker speaking of cooking things on a printer bed i had a co-worker a while ago who uh when i worked at a 3d printing company you guys can guess which one it was uh he was a very interesting fellow and i walked past his office one day um and i smelled something that just smelled like the weirdest like salty meat smell i never really smelled and i looked in his he wasn't in his office he was somewhere else so he was doing he was like setting it and walking away to come back for lunch and i look in there and he's got slices of pimento loaf sitting on the bed of his printer cooking it's sitting there sizzling he just cranked his bed up to like 80 and it's just nice and uh it smelled rancid have you never tried to like warm a cup of coffee on your bed i mean a cup of coffee yeah but like just slapping like just straight meat on on your print bed so then later i was walking through and i was like are you serious about this or is this a joke and he just picks up a piece and he bites it and i was like this was that this was the age before like uh wham bam and spring steel sheets and and uh all that stuff so i was like please tell me you cleaned the purple glue stick off of that bed before you did it and he was like nope and then he just took another bite and walked away i mean it's not in toxic so it's not toxic right right that's part of why it's smelled so bad yeah remember the days before flex issues through some uh good old purple glue stick um oil on there and then later later on uh for april fools i did an advertisement for uh uh a fake advertisement where we were releasing a slicer setting for cooking baloney on your printer i made an average post of that on online as an advertisement it's like so those were like the dark days though when you didn't have all the all the wham bam sheets and all that stuff yeah people putting uh blue tape on their beds and yes mama's here if mama was here he would tell us all about the blue tape right blue tape cool we got to jump into some hot makes you get to hang out and watch check some stuff out check out some stuff that some of our audience made yeah hot make segment okay i thought you paused i thought so he was just like i thought he was the one that's kind of so i was like yeah no we'll check him out this is what people are making yeah i guess i'll hang out for hot man i guess so all right you ready let's do it what is hang on i gotta make the screen bigger are you there yeah you were pretending pretending to be frozen then too everybody's pretending to be frozen i love it i love it all right any next to me should just stopped in her seat next to me life that's live no wait tell me she's in 3d too i mean like that will blow my mind um all right this is some other attack doesn't this oh i don't i haven't opened this yet i don't even know if it will open find out you gotta start opening people are just gonna start sending us stuff we shouldn't show oh what is this a reason to join x3d that's what this number of this group apparently uh this is what is going on here is this a this is a render right this is render yeah yeah it's a render yeah that is nifty is this from something that's from men in black is it really i think so yeah yeah it's the little alien that's in the one dude's head lost some nerd cred come on real smith jeez i know i have already smacked the crap out of some people in that movie that's what happens he slaps your face off and that's what's on the inside it's the inside of chris rocks head it's the inside of chris rocks head it's a little alien i love it well yes that's where some of his like off his off jokes come from it's an alien trying to make human jokes but they're not quite hitting so if you have not checked out hex 3d amazing stuff um you have to like you gotta jump on the patreon um and become a patron and then once you're there for like three months or something you only get what you're there for and then once you're there for like i think it's three months he opens everything he's ever done to you like opens it all up that's pretty cool and uh it is it's an interesting way to do it as well crazy yeah oh yeah and he's signing up and then like turning their subscription off the same night i mean he's got 8100 patron members he's really crazy uh and what it starts at ten dollars a month so assuming all of them let's just for the sake of calculation assume that all of them are just a ten dollar one you know looks like that's all i see it's only a ten dollar one that's so so and it could have changed over the years right yeah but but amazing i have um some friends that are members of his and the stuff they come up with is i mean it's pretty uh lightspeed says hex 3d has like 12 million a year in sales revenue on patreon that is crazy he's like holding patreon up on his shoulders yeah well you figure 8100 times say 10 bucks i mean that's a yeah a good chunk of change a month but what matters is um yeah he puts out that's where it comes from is having those that good quality stuff yeah so nice work um i think jeff is actually his name over at hex 3d that's awesome i love that model by the way all right next steven pool tom and jerry printed at 125 percent on a bamboo lab p1p found so is this multi is this mmu looks like it are they separate pieces let's see it's a p1p so my guess is all filament used as polymaker jerry was 0.2 and 0.1 layers my guess is it's pieces because p1p probably doesn't have it hooked up to an ams i'm just guessing but my guess is it's a diorama so it's many pieces yeah if you look there's like there's an edge on yeah you can see that stomach there's like a bit of tolerance yeah right here like it's pressed in yeah you're right but it but it looks so good though the layer lines on uh tom's stomach kind of looks like a little belly button the quality of fdm these days as well isn't jerry the mouse yeah so that's backwards on the picture tom is the cat jerry is a mouse right sara says yes yeah i mean it's incredible the quality of fdm these days as well it's so cool sara is currently using my c3po face as to hold her yarn as she's no no no no no no no no sara can she hear me tell her she has to pull the yarn through the mouth you have to pull the yarn through the mouth he says yes oh she's got real sad she doesn't know how she's going to do that because she's already most of the way through her problem never mind next time next time next time tell it yeah so uh 100% agree with curbie here he says the quality of fdm this this brown especially like i can't even it hides that that's a nice brown oh good it does yeah nice nice work steven no show yes it's like he's drooling i love it it looks like he's drooling oh he's got a noodle hanging out of his mouth and he's about ready to suck it in you know he's he's about to yeah yeah um she's getting r2d2 now and like have them do lady of the trump oh no after doing r2d2 like a lady i love it i love it all right next um fix some dude check out check out shenanigans taking these fun little toys to a whole nother level shenanigans uh let's check it out oh they got the like the roller wheels the clock spring style inspired these were uh fix some dudes designs weren't they and then so these are taken and and made multicolor modified man probably multicolored yeah so good here's the models um i love this by the way and might have to yeah your your son would love that yeah you know what i said i try to like paint things as well but not just multicolored is just such a good i paint like a i paint like a three-year-old so why do you pay three-year-olds exclusively yeah i paint three-year-olds but have you ever painted an adult like oh i that's that's for the after show um all right michael morales diorama this is photos mint smarty figure by me diar diorama diorama sculpt and fdm print by uh bret she's with us right oh yeah i don't know if she's here i think i thought i saw her be supported resin by charles zuck anyways here we go boom i'm still photos mint is so dang busy i've been talking to him like every week and he's he wants to come on the show he just can't even get sleep he's working so much yeah we're gonna help him on soon yeah i've had him hang out with me on my little podcast thing but yeah his work is incredible and he just he just wants to teach me he wants me to teach him solid works there you go nice that is so cool though i mean that's an awesome an overall awesome uh diorama i love it i almost feel like i almost feel like the the graffiti in the background should be a hue forage print you know that would be right that would be really so sweet even though the texture on the ground too yeah yeah i mean it already pops i'm just saying like nice work it almost looks like it looks like a lot of fun to paint as well yeah for someone who loves painting this would be a lot of fun to paint uh for me it would just be like uh it would it would stay like this so that's my finished diorama oh yeah if you scroll down it was actually brit who uh who uh uh tagged us oh nice i like the invisible he's invisible down there all right what we got what's next all right next uh what we got local maker michigan hotmakes five essential tricks to tip and learn tips to learn tinker cat i'm not gonna play this but um super cool thank you for tagging us and maybe maybe what we can do well check the description below hit up episode 158 and you'll find the the link here but i'm actually talking to uh mike uh he plays he does hockey on monday nights but he said in the fall he's going to go back to a different schedule and potentially hang out with us at some point nice that'd be cool already talking to him well do it all right next um do it after 55 hours this is this is one of the coolest things this week after 55 ish hours my 3d printed filament painting of of uh the witcher map is complete i have no idea how to say this so this is cd project red there you go um cd project witcher map cd project so this is 80 by 60 centimeters 12 panels printed on a p1p made possible with hue forge okay that's cool so that's that's uh and that was all done on new forge yeah it's and how many panels was that 12 panels you can see i'm kind of like right here so it's textured so is it like a topographical map then or is it just texture i don't think so i think it's let's see i can't get it to play on my end pop yours up i don't know if that it's next actually actually topographical no i don't think it's topographical but yeah it definitely has cool texture to it because of the yeah well because of how hue forge works right because of how hue forge works yeah that's awesome this is sick oh come on i am so impressed that's quite cool i love it i love game of thrones i'm kidding i'm kidding oh boy i've never seen either of them so oh boy oh boy sorry he's like you know he's one of those people that was he's sitting in in star wars he's like i love star trek is that this is the next generation was this the first generation you know yeah yeah uh but no this is so good i i absolutely love i never crossed my mind that you can make an old map like this using hue forge that's not something that in my mind i was like pictures stuff like that but this is such a cool idea but that speaks to what kirby was saying earlier though it's like people coming up with cool ideas sharing them showing how they did them and then somebody else is like ah i have a different idea actually yeah uh i mean it's so good nice work uh i i love it next liz liz is with us i promised i would try out fangs so i've uploaded a few models feel free to uh follow there tulip base boom so i have an important question do you have to exclusively put tulips in this base follow up question who's fast did you get the tulips off of that that'll be a nice place to pick my leg of flowers yeah that'd be cool um sir i did not like the joke she probably joke was stupid well it looks like she posted her um the uh roses yeah everything and the butterfly i just posted the link in the chat so if you want to go follower do it all right next do it um i'm on that one all righty here we go jbb creative i engineered and 3d printed a sculpture as a i can't even talk as a commentary on the distracted nature of today's gadget dependent society this is this is phenomenal i did not think take this out all right i'm not gonna say what i thought but i know other people in the audience are gonna think what i think yeah we're just gonna let that let's see it's it's a dude with a phone he's got a phone is it yeah gotcha okay oh yeah that's a head like looking down okay i see what's going on here yeah that's cool and then they're like oh i'm running into your future awaits just running into things yeah just running attention oh and then they fall down that's cool and then they back on the conveyor fall down the slide and go on to the next conveyor belt and it all just keeps going this is one of those like art in this yeah this thing over here like grab someone lifts them up grab someone i love yeah this looks like um it looks like one of those kind of like statement pieces that would be in an art gallery just running 24 seven you know yeah so cool that's awesome i mean like to think of that in your brain right like here's what i'm gonna do i'm gonna make a bunch of figures that look like figures holding cell phones and then i'm gonna put them on a conveyor belt while they run and smash themselves into a sign and once they pile up enough they're gonna go down slides where they get stuck again because they're not paying attention until they smash enough to get back on the conveyor start over like so good so good that's so cool it's cool i wonder how i wonder how reliable that is though like if you just left it running for like months at a time do you think they would still be on the belt i have no idea i don't know i think it would be awesome to find out all right uh one more i know we're running light here uh dave makes stuff the radial fans on these vases create interesting effects from printing with multi-color filament designed for printing my base for sparrows yeah go ready i'm ready oh throw it at me oh yes we need like super satisfying like inception music playing yeah i can play some jazz for you some smooth jazz i love it welcome to uh uh w h m a k uh w h o t the uh hot see i'm not a radio guy so i can't make it up as i'm going along it's just awkward smooth jazz hour yeah yeah i tried what was that noise oh there's jazz oh there you go i was just like i thought i paused it like you know in my in my side there's music we haven't muted because we get copyright stricken but no you're fine um but yeah yeah i'm not i can do also i can yeah sorry about that i've got some buttons on this little uh doodad that i got here but i don't i haven't set them up for anything i should set them up for some music play some jazz nice work dave's careless whisper stuff nice work um well so i i saw some i saw something i might have to attempt it was a 3d printed um skid loader i don't know if anyone else has been seeing this lately um okay this week uh i'll just the the like remote guy started a youtube channel i cannot i don't want a full size one no that's mute mute me okay there we go so in the other video he made this yeah okay so then he like changes some stuff he adds a bunch of features this is v2 right and he makes the arm like go crazy and and be able to do some fun things and he added like a grabber claw on there but this in general the mini skiddy is sweet i mean it would be cool to make that with forklift attachment and then use that to like move those like uh mini uh wooden pallet like coasters around your desk little mini forklift like this is the kind of thing i'll look at that i'm like yes i need that i'll buy all the bits for it i'll print it and i'll be looking at i'll have everything for it and be like no proud parent of a pallet jack if you um if you look up uh mini skiddy or or mini skiddy skidster whatever you'll find his videos um super cool and and that was the v2 version so he's upgraded things that he liked or didn't like from the first version and stuff but i i keep seeing that it keeps popping up and it's probably because i watched the first one don't earth contest maybe i mean if i don't know if you've watched it's i can't remember the channel's name but they have a competition called loading wars where they have little remote controlled forklifts and they have these competitions loading these different trucks moving through these tiny miniature warehouse type things and there's just a bunch of guys in the garage just doing these like drinking challenges with these remote controlled forklifts and remote controlled trucks and that beautiful to find it i need to see this um oh thank you this is perfect late night youtubeing where you just watch yeah four hours yeah yeah um sweet well i know we're running late before we get going uh next no next week are we doing a show or not doing a show i can't be here next week i don't know i'll keep it because jim can't be here next week and i don't know what we might have something potentially interesting coming up so i i'll keep everybody in the loop on uh whether or not there's gonna be a show on monday we tonight won't be here next week either way uh the 21st we have a brian farmer on from he does like a fab lab he's uh teaches and all sorts of crazy stuff it's a lot of fun i think he's up in minnesota area and that's super pumped to talk to brian we talked a bit at at murph and i'm glad we're reconnecting to actually like dive further into what what they're doing um and then the 28th is a special episode so don't miss that one don't don't miss the 28th it's gonna be a super super special weird goofy fun episode you're gonna want to be there nice we got something fun planned yes it'll be it'll be a lot of fun uh before we go uh kirby can you give us one more time who you are what do you do and where can we find you yeah you can just find the kind of stuff that i do is on kirbydan.com um that's just a portal to everything that i do all my social medias um it's all connected there but uh i on occasion i make uh props and that stuff all my stuff is still available on printables and 3d my manufacturer but i just i love 3d printing things i like making things if i have a weird idea i'll make it i'm just like creating and designing and inspiring others to do the same i'd rather teach you how to design than just you pay me to design love it there you have it i appreciate that mindset too yeah man i'm tired thank you guys thank you for being here uh kirby hang out we'll be right back with you everybody else thank you guys so much for being here thank you thank you thank you we will see you next week well baby kayla we'll see you next week uh right next week i'll let everybody know i'm central um i know it's getting late we need to do that at earth an orio dunk tape dunk tank i can't talk i'm tired is that where you take your orios and you dunk them in water no we get you to dress up in an orio costume and then you get in a dunk tape and then you throw like tennis balls at you light light speed says he'll do the show with you sir so she'll make the outfit for you nope nope nope nope all right you guys have a good night kirby thanks for joining us thanks everybody else from the problem thank you very much back everybody see you later guys see you next week bye welcome to wm k o t h o t where we talk about hot makes hot plates hot cakes right here on hot makes we'll see you next week oh yeah smooth jazz we forgot yeah wait a minute is that brian annum's i heard