 Welcome to the 72nd edition of the red man group. I am your host and moderator Donovan Sharp We are presented in part by the 21 convention Which is less than a month away guys July 18th through the 21st the 21 convention will be in Warsaw, Poland tickets are still available I am actually going to put the link in the chat right now very good. So I put the link in the chat right now You can also get the link in the description of this video You can also get tickets to October's event in Orlando Which goes down October 24th through the 27th but act now because the earlier you buy the more you save All right, let's get right to it guys today We are discussing a very important topic that the vast majority of men red pill aware or otherwise are grossly Unaware of and it's the necessary Sacrifices a man must make to have a good relationship with a woman. We talk a lot about The necessary changes you have to make like your mindset your physique your financial outlook your spending habits and so forth And if you're here if you're watching the show, you already know that keeping your high value is the only real way To mitigate you can never really avoid you can never really guarantee that a woman's never going to screw you over But keeping your value high is a way to at least mitigate The damage a woman could do if you don't keep your shit together Now we also talk on the other side about the sacrifices women need to make to get and keep a man in demand Like giving up girls nights out getting and staying in shape social giving up social media attention and validation seeking Keeping in contact with their exes and so on and so forth But what is almost never discussed are the sacrifices that men have to make and I can guarantee you that most of you guys Watching you guys haven't heard of these and I didn't go as far as to say that some of our panelists were joined by Steve and Anthony today. We've got other guys that are going to drop in I Can I can almost guarantee that you guys haven't really thought of these either? So it'll be interesting to get everyone's organic reactions to these but before we go ahead and get started Let me quickly introduce the today's panel first up We have Anthony dream Johnson then of course we have Steve the Dean Williams. How's it going guys? You know going pretty good man glad to be glad to be back and setting up the multi-stream to 21 studios and our Twitter accounts too Excellent. Yeah, we are streaming live right now to 21 studios the red man group channel I think we're having trouble with Twitter and Facebook. I think but we're just I think those are the only two mediums are streaming on right now, correct Yeah, Twitter. I think it's going but it's just weird the multi-stream thing We'll switch to software next time, but it'll be fine next time. I think it's live on Twitter in the meantime Perfect. Perfect. Steve. How's it going brother? Man, it's going man hanging out with y'all man. I think good good good stuff So let's go ahead and get started here I'm gonna talk about some of the some of the sacrifices that men have to make and and again I want to get you guys as honest opinion on these because I think I don't know Maybe we'll have some disagreements. Maybe we'll have some maybe we'll have some pushback here But the first sacrifice you have to make is your woman has to be introverted and let me explain what I mean by this Eliminable man and I we talked about this extensively on my show a little over three years ago As a matter of fact, it was actually back around Valentine's Day of 16 And I was still living in Reno deciding and you know trying to decide whether or not I wanted to move to Phoenix or Philly I obviously ended up here in Philly. Anyway, having a wife or girlfriend who is an extrovert does have its advantages, okay? Unfortunately, none of those advantages have anything to do with the actual strength of your relationship an Extroverted female gentlemen what that ends up doing is that draws attention to both her to herself both directly and Indirectly both good and bad so strictly speaking in relationship terms a necessary sacrifice is a woman's outgoing Personality she's got to be an introvert and the main reason is that introverted females draw far less attention to themselves Which drastically reduces the odds of creating opportunities for infidelity Anthony What are your thoughts on foregoing the the extrovert the outgoing? You know life of the party type girl and going for the introverted girl Yeah, I think there's some meat there But my first thought when I heard this conversation is much more fundamental And so you're talking about sacrifice from a man from a woman and then being in relationship together and what that's Going to look like so my first the most immediate and important thought is that women love Sacrificing for a man they value and as a man you are going to have to sacrifice And I don't even like that word actually too much especially as a man I think what really most men mean when they say that is like they want to trade something And you have to treat something if you're going to be in a relationship You only have 24 hours in a day, you know time out of your life attention All that stuff's gonna have to you know be traded out if you're not some bachelor like me Just fucking do whatever you want on Tinder and bars and shit But I do believe at a deep level women love sacrificing for a man And they want to do that for you they wanted and you want to do it and push it in ways that make sense Without being like unless you're into this kind of shit But you know it should not be sadistic and malicious but outside of that you should do it as hardcore as you can So if she gives up girls nights out gives up all the so bullshit she used to do or you know Maybe she didn't do in the first place But if you did she can give that up if she can give up something out of her life for you That's what she wants to do is that makes them it's part of what makes someone happy right It's part of me It's part of being submissive and a lot of men don't understand that and they want to I know I was this was me too You back in the day even after finding pickup and email being able to pull girls out of bars and stuff one night stands Fucking the back of a car, you know pull the girl home 45 minutes flat or something like that I didn't really grasp this element of it that women love sacrificing a love submission Not just in the bedroom, you know choking them out or something because they're like screaming You know fucking me harder daddy, but even much more simplistic stuff Whatever they can take out of it if they if you get you know, it's like when you demand a girl, you know Make me fucking sandwich, you know, it's it's funny for us to say that but they love doing that They love shit like that especially when it's like this thrust yes sacrifice your time go to the fucking fridge Make me fucking sandwich and make fucking delicious. They love this kind of play this kind of The interplay between you know male and female like that So that's the most important thought with it is that you know women love sacrificing period whether it's girls nights out Or spending three hours cooking you dinner If you have the value and the masculinity to earn that they want to give it to you right and they want that kind of relationship I think 90% of women dumb stuff stuff. It's not a fetish. It's like this is human life And this is human nature of play in like a really important way No, no that perfectly answers my question and you bring up a very good point you said it's not a It's not a fetish, right and a lot of guys think well, it's you know It's it's a fetish if you want an introverted girl because they want to be dominated No, this is the way of woman like this is how this works. Steve. What are your thoughts on this? Yeah, I'm gonna go the other side of the spectrum I don't look at a woman as far as being introverted or extroverted because if you think about it, let's look I mean and I talked about this at the 21 convention if you know, if you're at A job doesn't look at a person's introvert or extrovert They look at him to see if they get the job done at the end of the day So I don't look at a woman to sit there. I don't I don't look at her being outgoing I don't mind if she's out going because that's who she is Just as long as she follows my rules like like Anthony was saying give me a fucking sandwich and make sure that shit is fucking good Do it you're replaceable. I mean that I mean just like that just like my mind said And I kind of answer you again that sacrifice I hate using that word but I understand where the word is coming from but to me the the greatest sacrifice is Replacement, I mean and that's not even a sacrifice, but I don't you know a lot of women women are just what they are You know what I mean and I came for us an introvert to be extrovert more or less an extrovert to be Introvert you can't you can't force that in somebody But what you can do it real quick what you can do is when you have your standard see to me It's all about the man. I don't give a fuck what she is intro extra around the corner upside down I don't care what she is as long as she's when she's with me She follows what the fuck I am and what I say and other than that She can be whatever she wants because that's what attracted me to her in the first place That's a very good point and and just to clarify And I know I know people are probably thinking this I'm I'm certainly not endorsing and I like it when we have these disagreements because I think that I think you get better We get better content like this I'm not talking about the fact that you want to force introversion My my thought is that when looking for a and this isn't to say that extroverted women Always make the worst mates what I'm saying is In order to reduce the odds if a woman wants to cheat she'll cheat We all know this whether she's an introvert or extrovert But to reduce the odds of a woman running around on you It is my opinion that an introverted female is going to be less likely to have those opportunities The extrovert the life of the party she draws attention to herself both directly and Indirectly and and I actually got a comment in here in the other chat Looks a render defender says this introvert mate guarding his scarcity mentality That doesn't have anything to do with it Because what it comes down to is you can't get with an extroverted girl and try to force introversion on her You can't say oh my god My girlfriend is always attention-hoaring and she's always doing this another guess what dude That's your fault. It's your fault you selected that girl if one of your standards if your standard is okay I don't really need to be with a woman who is extroverted Opposites attract you at the compliment one another if you have an extroverted man and an extroverted woman, okay That's that's all well and good strictly for the purposes of Reducing the odds of her running around on you You want a woman who is not as likely to draw attention to herself both directly and indirectly if you're attracted to extroverted females Great, and I would even go with Steve on this it is it's something of an accomplishment to get with an extroverted girl But when she's around you she's introverted because that means she is submitting to you Yeah, you know what I mean? So if she's the life of the party everywhere else she goes but then when she's with you she's subdued There's something to be said about that but again when she is that extroverted person when she is not with you She is more likely to Draw I guess Unwanted attention as far as your concern so no this doesn't have anything to do with make guarding This has to do with making sure that you have what you want before you go after because if you get with an extroverted female And then complain this that she's extroverted. That's on you my dude Like that's the way that goes so and again I'll use Devin as an example her and I are completely the opposites obviously I'm an extrovert she is an introvert that is one of the main reasons I decided to give her a shot for a long-term relationship because I know that when she's not with me at least as far as I know She's not as likely to draw attention to herself when she's not with me Donovan real quick. I'd like to say this okay when it comes to and I this is what I love about this We just how we thinking in all this. I love this. So the thing is is that For a lot of guys out there who don't display man characteristics Oh, worry for about an extrovert then a man like myself you or Anthony because a woman knows look I You go you fuck up one time you're going. I mean, I just know Dr. Phil or marriage counseling. It's over with She's right now when she gets with someone who is less of a man that Okay, honey, it's okay And you know you have the guy friends and you can go out and party and all that other stuff You got to stand something women want Somebody to dominate them and if you're not dominate her in your relationship Whatever you're not guys get your crayons out Doing in your relationship She is always going to be looking for outside of it So the extrovert is going to be looking for someone when of dominance now not to not to maybe not marry She might want to sleep with them or something like that to get a feeling of what it's like to be with like, you know Like I'm gonna use a one set a second bottle fix me that goddamn sandwich You what if she's at home and the guy's like is it okay if you fix me a sandwich in you know Can you please do this and you know don't worry about it? Oh, I'll fix it. You know when you're like that and she's looking for a bitch You better fix my sandwich and that shit better be good Going to look for that somebody, you know Marry it but when it comes along she's gonna weigh options out. Well, I've got a guy that's soft and doughy My sandwich better be good, but you better go fix that shit and do it and wear on the thong and put on the fucking hat while you're at it Right. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, so I want to add on this to that on in terms of you know personality type extroverted introverted or whatever else Extroverted personality would scream to me like attention-seeking and that even if she was a certain behavior step before you met her If she didn't dramatically tone that down for you Well, hey, that's not heard not submitting to your frame assuming. That's what you want Which a lot of I'm assuming most guys it's gonna be something along those lines independent of your own personality type You don't want most men are not gonna want their girl out You know a hornet around town with their friends on girls night out seven nights a week It's nuts, you know, you can be the out those fuck But eventually, you know some dudes in the walk up to her and it's gonna cause a problem in your life It's gonna cause you know, she's gonna fucking act on it There's another thing I wanted to comment on to fuck Thanks for personality type. Oh, yeah, so I think when a woman I think this is like red pill wisdom 101 but I believe this to the bone that when you meet a woman an Element of the genuine desire and her attraction to you like a deep arousal level if she wants to adapt her Personality to fit your wants and desires Genuinely to now if she's a cluster B cluster fuck and she has a personality disorder She'll do this too But you'll take it to this extreme absurd level or if she's codependent or has like severe daddy issues or who the fuck knows What right but independent of all the disorder, you know mental health type issues and shit like that, right? it's very natural for women to want to do this and and another thing too Andrew the private man in Texas Dom both but Andrew, you know rest is rest in peace former speaker of the convention 21, but he died a couple years ago cancer They're both very good at Articulating Dom's cyber relationships to real dominance, which is not domineering which is how most men Inside and outside of the the man is fear if they're new to it That's how they take it they hear dominance and it's just like rage rage mode screaming. That's dominant That's not dominance. That's domineering behavior Some women are gonna be into that but most of them are not going to be accepting rare instances But all women virtually respond to real genuine dominance And that's where they submit to your frame willingly and eagerly and genuinely and that's the difference that most men don't get It has to be and that's what you know when I if I yell to grow entire, you know, make me a fucking sandwich It's coming And she she'll get the subtext to that in the tone She'll get the subtext of that and then I just railed her for two hours and she was screaming I love you daddy. Fuck me harder or whatever. So when I there's context to this kind of language I'm all about manners. Please and thank you, but women don't respond to that and it's counterproductive to fucking say that That's right to the extreme So what do you say you say things that make sense to them that that turns them on and makes them happy? Which is gonna make me fucking sandwich bitch I love you go fucking do it and put a fucking thong on put the fucking hat on or whatever, right? So that's and so but Texas Dom even I think his report with George Bruno recently he went into this a little bit You know Dom sub stuff and Andrew the private man gave he spoke about it in his speech at the convention as well As I think later with Socrates on interview See it's it's a it's a really in my opinion Dom's Dom sub behavior and sex and relationships is like the red pill of sex like the red pill of how relationships actually work Yes, just like you do Donovan you fucking stamp your girl's ass literally with a stamp. That's all I need to do that too I can't wait Your stamp needs to say the dream I don't say yes a dream or dreams property or something like that Totally, totally But dude like 95% of women would fucking love that or do love that and they dream about that shit knock ha ha knock on wood I agree with the I agree with the both of you then there's actually another good comment SCO to 49 to see he he or she says introverted women can't always be trusted either Listen absolutely not. Oh, yeah, but but again, I totally agree with you No woman can be trusted but within the confines of a sexual relationship between a man and a woman If you want a woman who is less likely to put herself in position either directly or indirectly to cheat on you misbehave an Introverted be an introverted woman is far less likely to do that and I'll end I'll actually go on to the other side here To me this is this comes down to selecting a female who is likely to who is less likely to be misbehaved We all love extroverted girls. They're fun better sex, etc And so when you select an extroverted girl that is a high risk high reward, correct? Like high risk I would the more extroverted she is the more likely she is to attract male attention The more introverted she is the less likely she is to attract male attention This isn't to say that the introverted girl can't and won't attract male attention Well done of it. I'd like to disagree with you here a little bit. Okay. Yeah, please You said you can't trust woman. I trust some and deeply I trust them to be women Oh for me That's that that's been part of my ripple journey is I really just like it doesn't matter to me Like I trust them to be women I trust them to be biologically consistent and behaviorally consistent with how they've evolved so I trust them to be women which means, you know They speak Well, you know they speak womanese as you put it Donovan absolutely You have to constantly read through What they say rarely do they speak overtly and directly? And they they will be squirrelly the minute that their vagina is not, you know wrapped around your dick all day I'm your dick. So you got to watch them. You got to trust but verify That's that's a part of I think that's that's the only rational way to trust woman This is the trust but verify because they're like giant children. Well, this was SCO to 492 He says introverted women can't always be trusted either. I think that when I agree with you You can only trust women to be women the trust I think that we're discussing here is the integrity of your relationship and as far as I'm concerned You can't you can never trust women just like you said trust but verify We do things to mitigate the trust and all this other kind of stuff One last thing I want to make on this is actually has to do with what you said about submitting to your frame It doesn't matter if she's an introvert or or an extrovert if she submits to your frame It doesn't really matter to that. I would disagree. I think I see I want my woman Okay, I want her to submit to my frame whether she is with me or not because you can have an extroverted girl who appears to be Introverted around you but when she's not around you she's still getting all of that male attention now It could just be attention and you might be the high-value male. She just might like to flirt around This is just what all women do but introverted girls are much more likely to submit to my frame when I am not with Them than extroverted girls are this isn't to say that you couldn't have one without the other But in my mind this comes down to selecting a woman who is less likely to put herself To put herself in a precarious position to violate your trust or the quote-unquote Sanctity of the relationship and it's my opinion that introverted girls are just better off for that. I mean Steve I was gonna say, you know the sanctity of the relationship for women And that was a bad that was a bad thing but that was no no I think it's a real through it means different things to men and women like sure women It means did that literally to them in their head They'll never voice this in words when their head the sanctity of the relationship means their pussy gets wet for you constantly They are housed by you constantly or all the time deeply and the arousal and the dominance are high and they're really fucking enjoy it If those things were getting hit nail on the head, I mean, that's that's basically love for them They're not gonna turn on that or they like the likelihood the likelihood of that happening is low There's nothing I wanted to comment on that too, but Steve go ahead and I'll think about it And this is what I want to say don't see if she's introverted, okay Don't think that she's still not gonna get hit on of course, right? Yeah Women look women are gonna get hit on all the time So there's nothing that I can say or do about the hit on but She's gonna she needs to know what the repercussions of if she takes the hit to another level If she walk because you see when you're doing it, right? The thing for a lot of guys is weird is when you're doing it, right? They will come to you and say you won't believe this this guy was trying to talk to me This guy was trying to get at me and they will bring the information to you You don't even have to ask them because you're see when they value you and they say okay that out of all the guys out There you know what just a guy want to rock with and I don't want to lose this guy So I'll do everything I can and and what I say it always starts in the beginning If she when a woman is really into you she's gonna tell you what she's doing And then they'll take a goddamn selfie and send it to you just to show you what they're doing to prove their point So if she's introverted look, she's gonna get hit on it's what to me It's what you do at that point because I can't keep her in a basement. I can't no no listen I want to make clear. I'm not I'm definitely not talking about that like I'm not No, no, no, I'm not saying you okay saying for those that are listening. I'm saying that for me Like I said, I don't give a fuck. I mean, I really I only care about me. I mean, I don't give a what What would that be he said? If I'm with you you're representing me in my name So you better act and behave like you are representing me and until if I catch it that you're not You're going now again. It's not like you're going the first time like a job you get a warning You don't clean that shit up. Well, we done but other than that. See I got options And when you have options, that's when they act correctly to the man that has options But if you don't have options She's gonna be looking for somebody because there's no there's nobody else that wants you women What would other women have so regardless? She's intra or extroverted if you have the options She's more like less like let more likely to follow your lead if she knows that you ain't the only one Absolutely. Let me let me rebuttal with this Introverted girls and extroverted girls they get hit on all the time. There is no doubt about it but extroverted girls get hit on more and the reason for that is because she's simply more outgoing she is she is an extrovert and a Natural byproduct of her personality means more attention to herself Here's another thing as a man and anybody who's watching this you have to understand cuz Steve said something that's very important There is nothing you can do Okay, if your woman even if your woman is mildly attractive men are going to hit on her wedding ring or not Even if she has a tattoo of her boyfriend's face on her face doesn't matter dudes are gonna holler and the reason I know this is because I hollered as well I know there's nothing I can do especially when I'm not there and I also want people to understand that I'm not saying that introverted girls never attention whore No, I am simply saying that introverted girls are less likely to Attention whore and draw attention to themselves to me. I'm playing the odds, right is Let me play doubles advocate here don't introverted women if they do seek attention are gonna be much more sneaky and covered about it Oh, yes personality type very good. Yeah, I've heard me. I've heard me doesn't care, right? I agree and introverted girls do do it on the sneak tip but extroverted girls They might not be as covert as introverted girls, but more people see I guess the slut transponder introverted girls attention whore on the low There's no question about that But more more again extroverted girls just draw more attention to themselves and Here's the thing they introverted girls do attention whore But they're not not nearly as much as extroverted girls and I think I can speak for all three of us when I say this none of us Here are going to put a gun to a woman's head because if you if you have to put a gun to woman's head Or if you have to quote-unquote lock her in a proverbial cage Then you're doing it wrong. She's either going to submit to your will or she is not there is nothing you could you can't control another woman's behavior You can only control your own but for me Introverted girls are much better behaved if you can handle an extroverted girl. That's fine. I've handled extroverted girls But for me as far as I'm concerned extroverted girls to me That's playing the game on that I don't want to say playing the game on hard mode but Extroverted girls to me are much less likely to put themselves either directly or indirectly in harm's way as a word as a word Steve I'll give you the last word. Yeah, what if let me throw another monkey wrench in this monkey rich y'all have What about introverted woman That doesn't realize she's really extroverted because all the guys she's been with has not really unlocked the whore and bad girl Right. Oh, she's been doing is is walking around closed minded to the world until she runs into a you Donovan or Anthony, you know, she's like, oh, you know, and like bitch give my sense of baby. Good shot. Oh, and then she's like Like oh my god, I've been talked to that way, but then she's like she's fighting You know who she is versus which I mean who she was versus who she really is and some introverted girls depending on the guy Opens them up because there's women out it always would tell you I don't suck a dick or you know, I'd never eat pussy Or I'll never right, you know, I'm good girl and then not and then after you get done with her She's like can I can I have some more daddy? Please give me some more dick and come So what I'm saying is you have that introvert to that might be who has never had access or met a man to pull that out of her guys Yeah, but I So following up on what Steve just said my and my own experience One of the reasons women love to be dominated genuinely where they're eager for it and reaching for it And then you provide it. You're like, yeah, you want to be dominated. No fucking problem, bitch One of the reasons words. Yeah, there's there's a couple different reasons I do that I think like biologically and second psychologically and stuff like there's there's they're seeking things They don't have obviously that's why they want it. They don't go after what they already have They go after what they don't have but I think a big reason I've never heard anyone really talk about is what steep Well other than what Steve just said he's one of the first guys I've heard say it Women are seeking this dominance because it's a form of self-expression for them and you have to unlock that for them They don't do it on their own. They're not like men men. I think are the flip side of this We create our masculinity. We generate our masculinity over time. We become more masculine We have to we have to become a man and it takes time it takes rates It you know in ancient history you had rates of passage even today in certain tribes and shit and obviously throughout life Even today in America in the West you have all kinds of trials and tribulations growing up through high school and college or going out in the World's getting jobs starting businesses and shit going fighting, you know, whatever the fuck you're whatever the fuck your Journey is in life is young man in America. You have to become a man and it takes time and takes all kinds of trials and shit But for women it doesn't it's not like that. It's different You know men and women are different going back to the fundamentals of the red pill and they they need dominance to do that You unlock that for them and that might be just you know doing some simple stuff like, you know Just doing some stuff like Steve was a sand. It might also be much more specific like a really dominant move But they never been like kind of like haven't been turned out in other words, right? Yeah, exactly Turned out like one of the things I do with women one of my signature moves is I'm sure I'm not the only person fucking do this. I'm sure If women have long hair even when I meet them in a bar or club I'll take their long hair and I'll wrap it around their neck and I'll start as I make an album I'll start like kind of choking them with their own hair and it's very obvious what I'm doing And I'm not like choking them choking minutes in the pub. Yeah, you're spot playing a little bit of pressure Yeah, yeah, but it's consistent like it's literally wrapped around it And they fucking feel it and their friends will look at me and shit and what's going on other girls will fucking watch us go down They're just like, oh, they love it. Yeah, they're foaming at the mouth But anyone would do this in public while making out someone that has met his fucking bananas But this is something I'll do later This is a course of precursor to what I'll bring them home what I'll do later But that kind of shit I mean if a girl's only you know fucked if she's young she's only fucked like nine You know 15 20 dudes or something or whatever and are on her tinder cock carousel ride Most guys have not choked these girls with their own hair, you know Maybe they put a hand their hand around their neck like oh baby Can I put my hand around your neck or as I'm like come here bitch and like took them from here? So it's a simple move, but it's something that you know It's like a mild version of turning them out, which will be a lot more, you know Take a couple hours and be a lot more fucking crazy dude a This is for a one. He just said some real ass shit. It just a one just clicked or something guys What do you what book out there? Oh Boy, I just sell him all boy based on what Anthony said that's not 50 shades, bro You took a introverted woman who did not know She was a horse kind of extrovert That's exactly a one when he said he was choking a bitch with her hair It were it made me dawn to realize that a lot of women like 50 shades of gray Oh, yeah, they they they come in clothes-minded Need a dominant man like Anthony said you got to unlock that They don't even know how to unlock it themselves because they think because the prettier. She is more insecure. She is anyway, of course Or pretty up to feel that way, but once you make her feel sexually safe and Let her know it's okay to be what you want to be It's okay to suck this dick and lick these balls and swallow this nut and I'm the forehead Dick on your forehead Anthony hit that dog a one man. That was real brother. Listen. I'll actually listen. You guys are both right But here again, this is where I'm gonna bring it back You can take an introverted girl and turn her into that extroverted slut But guess what she's not gonna be that extroverted slut with anybody but you because there's only what there's only room for one Dominant man in her life, okay? Women don't want to be women want one Christian grave because if everybody's a Christian grave and there are no Christian graze So you take that introverted girl you turn her into that extroverted sluts what you have created is the is the Unicorn right the proverbial unicorn you want to be a lady in the streets and a freak in the sheets Again, and here's the thing if let's say you take an extroverted girl and you turn her out And extroverted girl is going to be more likely to look for that in other well I don't know. I think introverted girls too, but extroverted girls put out that slut transponder So so you turn out an introverted girl that may be well and good But now it depends on you and this is where I agree with Steve that now it depends on you Okay, I just turned out this introverted girl and now she's this extroverted slut Who are you gonna truck? Who is less likely to go out and try to be that extroverted slut after you turned her out the natural Extrovert or the introvert that you just turned out. It's gonna be that natural extrovert Let me let me comment in this too like when we say turn these woman out I think what we're doing that's that's a crude way to put it which take on the forehead. Yeah, dick on the forehead What you're doing is you're making them more feminine and more womanly is what you're doing Yes, and in a very slutty way, which is what they want the issue is when you if this is my woman Those shouldn't be out just fucking I think women for to be happy in their life. This is my basic You know fundamental theory. It's very basic, but I think I think it's correct They should have sex with as few men over a lifetime as possible But they should have as much sex as possible with those men. Huh, okay, which is the op I mean you could say men are the opposite just bang as many houses as you can right sure That's that's just kind of the you know spread the seed and all that shit What I'm saying is though the minute if you do this now and you know, she has a great time with you She's submitted to you. You've been you know plating her. She's a fuck buddy or maybe it's a relationship When you leave her life if she or if she leaves your life now you've you've turned that out, right? You've made you that you've pulled that part of her soul out and you brought it to an expression phase Now she's gonna she doesn't have the dominance in her life What she's gonna do well She's not being dominated or controlled by a man that she cares about and values and respects So she's gonna go fucking slow. This is what women do and they get like yes shit They go they go on the rebound. Oh, fuck dude I know a girl that's fucked like she fucked like Almost 30 dudes in 30 days. Whoo. Yeah, absolutely admitted it to it admitted it. She said she only blew them. I'm like, yeah, you fuck Yeah, totally. It's it was you know, it's like great. It's like cringe woman ease. It's like yeah, like it's very obvious or you're saying but Yeah, so it's yeah, it's just you've unlocked that you've unleashed that and now if they want to go fuck off and be a Modern woman who's liberated well That's gonna have consequences because now I've liberated you or a man like me has liberated you You don't know how to fucking control yourself. That's why you wanted that's why that's why that was unlocked through dominance And they couldn't unlock it on their own because they don't have the self-control or self-discipline to do it You did and you exerted that on them when they wanted it and I created something beautiful. She's daddy's little slut Well, now she's gonna be you know, anybody's little slut if she walks away So women need to not women need to get fucked all the time But they need to get fucked by as few men as possible over a lifetime in my opinion And if they don't then there's gonna be consequences and that ends up being the cat kingdom The cheap wine that's wine wine. Yeah, you know overeating fucking cheap-ass ice cream getting fat being miserable and your whole life's a wreck Big thanks goes out to Rob cruise with the $30 super chat says salute to the realist mofos in the game humble support We appreciate that Rob cruise. Let me um, let me run something else by you guys It is my assertion and I think the reason why I'm more attracted to introverted girls and extroverted girls is because to me being Extroverted is generally a masculine trait It I think extroverted body language to like if a man sits down, you know, we cross our legs Or we you know, we like to spread and take up space Well when females sit down it is very ladylike and dainty to cross their legs and make themselves as small as as small as humanly possible What are you what are you guys's thoughts on extroversion being more masculine and introversion version being more feminine in Terms of out in the public now again when you get her in bed, she can be as extroverted as she want right But you want that freak of the sheets, but Steve what are your thoughts on that? Well see I love I'm a proponent of public displays of affection. I okay. That makes sense love I Love when I'm walking and she'll just grab me and push my ass up against the wall in the middle of the fucking wall Start kissing me or shy. I mean, I like all that stuff. I don't okay But as far as come to masculine, I don't really feel like it's masculine. I I oh That's just part of what her makeup now again if she's wearing jeans and she's got a Five o'clock beard I Want her to have fun, but a woman wants to be a woman around a real man She doesn't right like when you're a real man She wants to be woman because she wants to show the whole world an extrovert that is that this is my man and you can't have her and What it was sexy to some women is something to some men some guys like when other guys look and gawk at their women When I when I was a when I was jiggaloo, and I had a client that his his woman He would just let her walk in the mall in front of them like like I don't know 10 10 15 feet or whatever And just watch that the men look at her and that turned them on so everybody's got the little kink and stuff But for me, I don't mind her being extroverted. That makes all the sense in the world With when she but when she's with a real man Her extroverted becomes like more passionate more fun and more playful because she's more about like say public displays of affection Right then then the introvert Anthony your thoughts. That's a good point. That's a very good point Yeah, in terms of masculine feminine and then introversion extroversion. I'm not sure Either one goes either way like they both apply to both sexes in different contexts So I'm actually very introverted myself, but through the Pick-A-Bartist community through doing cold approaches Yeah, well, so if we're doing public speaking all these things I do are they're very extroverted But these are skills that I've learned and that they didn't come naturally to me. I wasn't like that I'm still don't like that. I live alone now You know a lot of people over for work and you know friends and shit But I'm dated a basis to live alone when I got to a bar oftentimes I got solo You know, I I joke that I'm a shark just hunting and that's all I do I'll just hunt for the hottest girl in the club that the hottest like two or three and I'll pick one and go for that and then go if that doesn't work out go up to the next one I'm like, you know, it's for me. It's a challenge like I treat pick up like the Olympics, right? I'm like, how can I get the hottest fucking girl and do the crazy shit tonight? Like even the Tinder girls I try to go I got the sub I've had like four or five now sub ten minute lays the whole Olympics exactly. It's awesome the dream Olympics, right? So in for women too, I don't know introvert extrovert. That's kind of an odd question. I feel Good good. Here's here's actually here's what I'm gonna say check this out I think and I and and Steve actually made me think of this I think as men depending upon what our goals are for that day. We like a challenge. Okay Extroverted girls to me They're much more of a challenge and when you make a girl who is outgoing and extroverted and all those other kind of stuff When you make her submit to your will to me that is much more gratifying than doing it with an introverted girl Because an introverted girl is almost already there, right? She's introverted. She's already submissive well me go ahead Here's what I'm getting at to like look at look at men for example You have introverts, you know men are dominated the STEM field for a long time and they should There's and there's different biological and you know reasons with how the male the male brain works that we dominate and science technology Engineering and math and stuff like that women don't women women dominate in social fields professions, right? Maybe like it's a receptionist. Maybe she's a waitress. Maybe she's a lot of like a model This would be you know, whatever the fuck right women are much more social in terms If if you view extroversion and you're looking at it and that's simplistic kind of way So then but then you have the alpha males, right? You have the dambles area and you have the cobertase. You have all these dudes doing all this wild as shit So it's there's like there's an element. There's like a spectrum obviously of masculinity There's a spectrum of beta to alpha behavior cues, right? Then you have personality types then you have like differences in the brain But you know brain between literally like the neurobiology of men and women That's why when you say like, you know masculinity and femininity and that extroversion introversion To me, that's like a really complex question that I feel I don't know if we can answer on this in my opinion I don't think so either. I just I just kind of threw it out there Steve what are your thoughts because I think I already know what your answer is I think for you I think for you it is much more gratifying to make it to make an outgoing extroverted woman submit am I wrong Yeah, well, that's the thrill of the hunt there you go Okay, like when you go fishing, you know, you you go out there to capture it And then when you know, you got it, you just throw that shit back in the right It's just a it's just an exhilarating feeling to take something that has been quote-unquote in the wild So to speak get it train it and just send his ass back out to find someone else Yeah, the introverted ones that they're easy because they're shy and quiet and they're just kind of to themselves Which is fine. I Want to see I always love to challenge myself Because you never know what you're gonna run into so that's why I used to talk to all women, right? I never because everybody's different. So you like I say the warrior must always be prepared and Which you're gonna walk into but when you are prepared for an extrovert and you know how she is and you know that it's good Like I say when you again, I'm not I'm not the best fisher fisher. I used to do that shit Hey, but you still got your rod real bro, I don't get it twisted Yeah, but the thing about that with a lot of guys Oh, no It's not like on cartoons and TV that you just throw that shit in there and then yank that motherfucker fish out No, it's time You got to release the you got to release the tension in the other of the rope And you got to let it go out a little bit then you got to reel it back in So it's kind of like a cat mouse game with the extroverted But again, I'm only a man could do that because a man knows a you know what I'll put I'll let that bitch marinate I'm not right not running behind her like that, but which one of real or ass back in she can come back home Shout out to her name my yoga with the $1 super chances keep up the good work gentlemen I'll wrap up this discussion with this. I'd actually like to get your your personal preference Your personal preference and why for me as far as introvert versus extroverts I like extroverted women for one night stands. I like extroverted women for for fuck buddy arrangements I like extroverted women for friends with benefit arrangements again to me It is much more gratifying to make a woman like that submit But for relationships I like that introversion and the reason for that and the reason for that is because I want and you're with every Relationship there's going to come a risk, but the more skin you have in the game The more you have at risk. We all know this this is basic math If I'm gonna have that much skin in the game me personally I want I want my risk to be mitigated as much as possible a lot of and Steve I know we've heard this a lot a lot of black women are just They're Masculinely extroverted like a motherfucker, right and what is what's the thing? They always say to guys like us you can't handle a strong black woman. Well, my answer to that is you know what? I can handle a strong black woman, but I'm sure you could handle a bratty kid That doesn't mean you want to either so while I believe it is very important Just like Steve said to keep that sword sharp Okay, to me it's it to me It's equally important to make sure that the woman you decide to take on as a long-term partner for me This is just my preference to me. She's got to be introverted introverted girls are much less of a risk They might not be listen introverted girls are not as much fun They're really not but but me for me personally as far as relationships are concerned I want there to be as little risk as possible Anthony, what is your preference as far as introverts extroverts sure and why? Yeah, so at 30 years old and come out up on 31 here in a few months. Oh, man. Oh, man. Yeah, I'm feeling So my most honest and first thought is I'm still exploring and figuring this stuff out for myself And I can tell you right now It it's never occurred to me to really care about these kind of things right now that it's unimportant in general It's just for me personally with how I interact with women pulling them home tender stuff bar stuff social circle stuff I'm just doing what I do. I'm exploring. I'm learning and experimenting. I'm you know testing out different flavors of women Black women Spanish women Columbia women white women couple Asian women 31 flavors, brother Yeah, and personality types too, right ages differences all kinds of stuff Everyone knows I'm a fan of sugar babies or salt babies as I call them Sing the single mom cheeseburgers love me some single mom I Have friends that you know that have with single moms, too, and it's I have nothing against them I just love I love banging them because they're super perverted. Oh, yeah, and they're easy Yeah, I would say I guess you could say that I mean all women are easy at the end of the day If you know a bunch to push But the single moms of that in particular seem to have like a lot of pregnancy fantasies and stuff And they're just like perverted and shit, which is fun fun to fuck with Yeah, I'm just learning and experimenting and also to like kind of cope with cobertate talks about If your frame is strong enough you can mold a woman how you see almost any woman how you see fit She has to genuinely submit to it. You can't force it. You don't want to force it That's the opposite of submission like real submission But and that's so and when I say that to like molding or personality and shaping it and stuff, you know She'll do it for you. That's that's the point because she wants to do it That doesn't mean she becomes a clone of you like I'm introverted So when I say that I don't expect her to become exactly like me. That's stupid. I don't want I don't want yeah I don't want Anthony dream Johnson with boobs like, you know across looking across the you know, whatever, right? Hold on. Let me cut you off real quick. Listen you listen. That's it. You solved the riddle for me Every relationship has to have polarity. Maybe that's why I like maybe that's why I'm more attracted to introverted girls For a longer relationship than extroverts. I mean, obviously you would be I guess somewhere on the other side of that poll Yeah, well for me too it comes down to concessions like I talked about at the opening of the show Like she wants to give up serious major things for you without becoming you don't want her to be a zombie clone of you That's like that's really stupid in several different ways and unhealthy But she you want it and she wants you to give up or she wants to give up herself You know big components of what she does or behavior You know, maybe goals she has she wants to she wants to serve you and she wants to submit to you And you have to get you have to make the door You have to create the door for that to happen and then open the door and be like come on and bitch make me a sandwich So I make you know make I make babies and cookies and I joke about her all the time women love that the babies and cookies But uh, yes, that's my that's my spiel on it. I think I've answered. Okay. Yeah. Yeah What about you steve? Do you prefer like what type of girl do you prefer introvert or extrovert for what situation? Well, I like sexy you all first off But I don't give a damn if you introvert or extrovert is let you extrovert when you giving up that s Well, I like to say I when I when I met my I met my wife I say the first thing she did when we went out she handed me her wallet and said get what we need You know, that was the beginning of you know, I was like, okay, huh? Okay, you know, she goes out as you used to go out a little bit But she's more like from the 1800s like a quaker. She doesn't youtube or facebook You don't have a twitter account You know all she does is puzzles Watch the food network life stuff. Yeah, and and and take care of the family And she knows that I'm the extroverted asshole that's out there But uh, as far as like when I was out there like if I was if I was Luckily to be anthony who's who's free to do whatever It's like you say I she could be from afghanistan pakistan russia india japan hong kong I don't care. I'm I'm I'm dipping my foot in all the flavors I'm having all the fun the single moms all that and I just want to say for those motherfuckers that Always bitch about single moms out there. You know who you are. Shut the fuck up because It's not about the fuck make it about the single mom and stop making about the goddamn kids I'm sorry. I didn't mean to go on my tiring, but no to get back to what I'm saying is that um It's what you want as a man number one, but let me tell you something man Like I was telling you before when you unlock an introvert To sex in the world out there in the pop The freak comes out of her because she it's an awakening for a woman You know how these women went all these goddamn awakening in tight moments, but she knows she could suck a dick You know, I mean she never thought of in her mind that damn I'm gonna go for them. It's it's a spiritual awakening man If you get a girl to really submit to you and just go fucking wild and they love it She's she's been jerking off to that moment for like a decade or more by the time that happens Right 50 shades of gray all kinds of stuff She's been fantasizing and fucking salivating about it And then you when you fucking do that when you throw across the bed when you push your face in the fucking pillow and say Fucking who's your who's your fucking daddy bitch or whatever? That's that's a huge moment for them. It's spiritual. It's real like for them I mean think about all the woo shit girls are into it's astrology numerology. Oh god. Yeah Horny when when you combine That's what that's the kind of you know what they think about when they're into When you then combine that when you're deep inside of them when they're about to get be You know, they were their risk of getting pregnant or something at any moment If you bust in them if you're fucking all the aggression and shit, but it's it's coming from a good place It's benevolent Or maybe maybe they don't know maybe they don't know where it's coming from and they're like, holy fuck What's going on? Like this is really exciting for them They love riding the roller coaster, right that has like no safety net or maybe has a safety net But they don't really know Right, so what I just want to say to to wrap my my my thing up is this at the end of the day Uh It's not about intro or extra. It's about what she brings to my table, you know Because the thing with me and my boys right now is that they got all their bitches buying them flat screen TVs in their houses Olds and stuff like that. They go shopping grocery shop for them So when he comes over to her house, which is technically his house now She has all the amenities set up for him Just to keep him pleased and has his drink comes in and stuff So, you know, I want once you get to a certain level It's not about the fucking because when you get so much pussy, you like green and you're like, hey, all right Okay, all right, we can fuck. Okay, standard, right. What else can you do? What are you bringing to? Excellent excellent. Okay. Well, let's move to the that was a good that was a good, uh, that was a good discussion I like I like I like it better when we disagree on stuff because I think that I think we all learn more And I think our audience learns more Okay, so the second For the second sacrifice that men have to make In my opinion, I believe it is age. Let me explain what I mean here The ideal woman that every man wants is that 20 year old virgin, right? The red pill approved female the red pill approved wife Uh, is is a female who's in her sexual prime meaning between the ages of 18 and 26 The disadvantage here is that in today's sexual marketplace Good-looking women in that age range and and we'll get to the we'll get to smv sexual market value here in a little bit But good-looking girls in that age range They're not interested in settling down because they're always getting offers They get offers on dating apps They get offers at work when they walk around everywhere they go Men are throwing themselves at her because she is young and beautiful In 2019 and I want to get you guys's take on this because in 2019 If you're a man who is in a long-term relationship with a beautiful 20 22 year old girl the end of that relationship That's inevitable It is a mathematical certainty that you will not be her last boyfriend Let alone the last person to have sex with her that said It is my opinion that the sacrifice men need to make as far as age is concerned And this is strictly for relationships. I'm not talking about fuck buddies one night stands I'm talking about for relationships is in 2019. Unfortunately. She can't be in her sexual prime And I know that that's what we want ideally but in this day and age and again, correct me if i'm wrong A girl in her sexual prime is always going to be looking for an upgrade simply because of the availability of men Thanks to the internet even if you're the very best she can do okay. She doesn't know that and She'll never really be all in with you until she hits her 30s when she has passed the wall so If you're looking for a woman who is actually ready to settle down in a long-term relationship to me You're looking for a woman who is aged maybe 28 through maybe 35 or 36 any older than that You're really taking a chance as far as looks are concerned any younger than that She's not going to be quite ready and again. I know a lot of you guys will say fuck that You know, she's passed the wall donovan and you would be right But i'll give you a personal example a personal example devon Devon was passed the wall when I met her and because of that She was much more open to doing what was necessary to secure my my commitment And I've got this game and all this other kind of stuff in donovan's property But guys had I met devon when she was 22? I would not be with her today of that. I am certain anthony. What are your thoughts on that? Yeah, I think I disagree. I mean i'm following what you're saying like it's making sense So I don't agree with the logic presented I mean for me it comes down to it's a frame game at the end of the day Like who's and that comes down to then smb that comes down to a game that comes down to genetic factors, you know your situation economically financially career-wise The age difference, you know, how old are you? Yeah, are you 37 looking for a 30 year old or there we go? There we go. 37 looking for a 21 year old. So i'm 39. I'm almost 31 Recently, I've had this 22 year old thrown herself at me hot as fuck to like hot as a dime like easily top 10 trick I've ever fucked And making me cookies constantly, you know, hit the raw Dude, I fed her dude. Dude. She ate a plan b right in front of me hit that shit raw all weekend. It was fucking dope It's dangerous, right? And I'm not I'm not recommending everyone do that, but I had a good time. So does she of course She'll give me the world. Well, and you know, of course eventually she started talking about relationship. I'm like, yeah, no not doing that Uh, I'm not you know surprised. Oh, so you're the one you're the hot 22 year old, right? Well, I'm I'm 30. Yeah, exactly. So but it's frame, right? It's She could be out going on more on tinder and bumble going to bars getting fucked but If I'm hitting all the right buttons, uh, you know, it's like socks says nature's gonna win And that's nature winning. She's getting If she's being for now, she's being fulfilled with these things. That's what she's going up. She came after me fucking hardcore Right, maybe she has maybe she's cluster b. Who knows? I don't think so actually but whatever I mean, it doesn't matter whether she's cluster b or not. I agree with you. It's a frame game It doesn't matter if she's cluster b b b if you got frame women are gonna fall if you're dominant This is why, you know co-parted is such a It's such an extreme version of like an alpha male in our men's community in the man's sphere But he says it right like if you have if you have the frame and if if you have the game if you have You have that power and she submits to it. You can you can turn around you can do whatever you want She'll give you she'll give you her soul. I tell women that's all the time before I meet them over text I'm gonna steal your soul of your pussy, bitch. I'm gonna suck it right out of your tits And they're like ha ha ha and then I fucking do right or that's they're reminded for me It's foreshadowing too, right some foreign the text and fucking with them Right like shit's about to get rough. You're gonna have marks in the morning. Yep But then they do so it all it's all it so it ends up being congruent It's got to be congruent if it ends up falling apart, which has happened for me Then it sucks it blows up in your face But if you actually pull that shit off then you you can you can mold her to what you want You know, it's frame game. There was actually a youtuber who's great on this frame game radio It was an intersexual dynamics focus so much, but it's all frame man It's frame frame frame frame at the end of the day. Okay, and if she in your frame, she'll she'll you know These the factors the age the SMV Hypergamy, you know playing itself out over time at different stages of her life These are all important variables and factors But at the end of the day it comes down to her brain submitting to your brain You're her frame submitting to your frame, you know, like Steve says, you know last name that she's going after your name How bad does she want it? How bad can you make her want it because your shit is so tight You were so focused and on mission your game is fucking tight your soul is fucking on point You're doing what the fuck you want to do if she feels that shit She'll give you the world is what I've seen. Okay, so this 22 year old girl You said she wants to be in a relationship with you like she's trying Yeah, I mean all these girls okay, all right, okay, very good Steve. What's a human? Go ahead. I was gonna say it was it was this interesting because I'm usually bangin girls who are like 24 25 20 Age like that and then occasionally in the 30s and then occasionally like a 19 20 year old but 22 It was interesting that she's like right at her peak SMV. Yep, and I'm only I'm eight years older So it's excellent. That's an excellent age advantage. I mean I considered it like I'm not totally opposed to that But at the end of the day, I'm just like nah, like I'm just not feeling of this chick emotionally. So I'm like, yeah It was very simple for me and ran All right, Steve what you got man? Well, I'm gonna I'm going so we're anthony on side of anthony on this one as well because one thing I know this is is that I'm not looking for her age more or less I just know what I want, you know, I know what I'm looking for. I know what is gonna please me and Whether she's 40 38 now. Yeah, I'm just saying just a smash. I'm talking about fuck me just someone I ain't so So, you know, and of course, she's got to be legal. You know, she's got a stupid, of course Yes, I'm gonna make sure out there because I want no guys play. Hey Steve told me the message 15 year old girl No, she got to be legal News yeah breaking news But what I'm saying is I don't look at the age to me It's the character and it's the submission or you're gonna follow my lead You know, I mean if and I don't care how old you are because I truly believe That when a woman gets around a real man keyword real man She has no choice but to take the knee and kiss the ring because she has no other option She doesn't have the option of wiggle room of running him and doing things So I don't look at the age man. I look at what pleases me. I say to myself, okay What do I want today? What am I looking for today and I will meet that person and like and like Anthony said, you know He gives him the warning about sucking the titty out the soul. I think it was Anthony I I always give him the warning of you might want to leave now You don't want to fuck with a guy like me because after I'm done with you You're gonna be hooked on me like a goddamn drug. So With a guy like me because I'm gonna tell you right now, I ain't shit. I'm letting you know I ain't shit. So I'm telling you you're not gonna be the only one Don't think you're gonna be the only one I'm gonna be fucking and seeing other women and that's the truth and either you're gonna accept it or not We're gonna get a diamond that me mentioned her age I don't care what her age is, but you know what they'll do when they hear real like I told you Transparent clear concise and impactful words. They will notice. Okay. You know what? Well, I don't like it But they'll fucking do it though. I want to add this to that You know is that Socrates birthday party last week? It was it was that house here in Orlando? We had couple guys, you know, everybody over and shit and his three and a half year old or whatever You know his daughter Elizabeth Grace is running around and it was just fascinating watch your behavior. Yeah. Oh, yeah, beautiful You've met her right? Oh, yeah. Yeah, she's cute as a button got the big pink rosy red cheeks. Yep So I was watching her, you know run around the house She was throwing the football around us, you know I was me and my director were there and she like that and just playing a plan to beautiful girl But being very feminine being being a young girl It was interesting to watch because in particular I noticed, you know, I was like well like what is this girl doing? Let me kind of watch her behavior What she was doing is chasing the most exciting and dangerous stuff she could find right right But that was daddy Socrates or me or you know the mom or whatever the tricycle Right in the bike or doing you know just doing like a wildest shit. She could I'm fun She's just you know having fun and she was chasing the most dangerous exciting shit She could for a three-year-old at that time and I'm like wow women never change This is literally what she'll do at you know for better or for worse. Hopefully for better You know when she's 33 instead of 3 she'll do the same thing She and she'll and that's healthy for one woman to pursue. This isn't even a criticism. It's an observation. It's an important So it just comes to mind that you know with all these things You know the friend what is how do you get frame? Why does the woman submit to your frame? While you're tapping into the different emotional experiences She's feeling and one of them is you know playing games woman love playing games And if you play the best games and you're the best at playing in them And you you make all the rules and you have that this game you've made for her Whatever is super fucking exciting and super dangerous or feels dangerous then you win That's how you win these things you win the frame game and then that goes beyond the bedroom too into the whole life Like Steve was talking about right I just want to piggyback on Anthony's piggyback The what he just said is 100 so many guys are trying to play to worry about the chess pieces Instead of being the chess board the chess board is gonna make sense right and that's where Anthony was saying was a 1 I'm sorry. Go ahead man. Oh, you're right. No, you're right With I'm gonna push back on both of you to me as far as long-term relationships are concerned age Absolutely matters and again, there are exceptions to every rule and this is what we teach men to be we want and the thing is Is we teach men to be the outliers if you want to be the regular old plain Joe? Whatever and drive a Toyota Camry make $40,000 a year and a 401k and all that secure and stuff and be safe You're watching the wrong show we teach men to be the outliers And if you're an outlier you are going to attract outlier type women a Read women who are young and hot who want to relate who want to be in a long-term relationship with you Want to make babies and cookies, but to me it's about playing the odds Simply put a 22 year old is going to have more options than a 32 year old she can and here's what comes down to you've got to Have the frame you can listen listen. It's my way or the highway. She can accept it or not I totally agree and more times than not she is going to accept it because you are who you are But the 22 year old is going to she's going to she's gonna choose to Taste the highway a little bit eventually she'll come back because there not many men like us out there But she's gonna go out there She's gonna choose that a few more times than maybe the 32 year old would again The reason she can do this is because she has other options again It's playing the odds the younger the woman the harder it is simply because regardless of how high your game is now You're only gonna be one of a very few men that she's gonna come back to on the regular And when she has those options like that she is going to attract more men She's gonna track beta males guess what she's gonna attract other guys who have the game in the frame as well We said it earlier in the show women can be trusted to be women the more that the younger a woman is the more option She has so even if you have a plus game. She is more She is she's gonna submit to your frame when she's with you right But strictly within within that's within the bounds of a long-term relationship this is strictly age-speaking with LTRs is The the younger the woman the harder it's gonna be and maybe and I think I think what I think what's happening here is I know that you can never play the relationship game on easy mode, right? For me, I want it to be a little bit easier I've done all the hard stuff like I've I've paid my dues and I think the reason for this is maybe I know that Women are not really as necessary for my happiness So I want the least amount of trouble out of them as humanly possible, but to me age Absolutely does matter when it comes to selecting a one or not really selected They really have to pick you but younger women. They're gonna be more like they're gonna be less likely to How can I put this to me younger women are are a much higher risk younger women can make great mates But again, we're talking about risk. I think the older the woman the the lesser the risk Well, I would say yeah, I want to comment on this so I don't don't disagree and this is consistent in my opinion with what I was talking earlier that But I we don't agree completely like age is important and I don't think I said it was unimportant if I did I misspoke no No, I don't think I did age is a factor. It's a major factor. I agree not only the age in itself An isolation, but also her age in relation to you are you her age? Are you one year younger are you one year older? Are you five years older that makes sense and there and there's stats So it's a major factor that plays out in statistics in real life, you know Because it's a you have to look at it generalized across an entire population Then you can watch that play out in studies by governments and institutions and whatever and they they show one thing I left out you're making a very good point because it really depends on your because you obviously have much different goals And I do we're a decade apart in terms of age. So yeah It's individualized to the woman like a woman might be 22 But she's an ugly duck duckling. She has not a dress another makeup She's she's 37 pounds overweight and guess what maybe maybe at age 29 just before she hits the wall for whatever reasons She fixes that shit. She starts reading information about how to look better She finds like a paleo diet or something and loses like all that weight All of a sudden her SMV is like significantly higher at 29 than it was at 22 But she's not pimply and fat and gross and shit and she's put together Her SMV now is actually and a lot of women. I don't know how many but there's plenty of women who do this They turn shit around and there's I think it needs to be a lot more, you know make women great again But yeah, there's all kinds of factors to play out over time people comment You know my Medusa thing the Medusa was older than me by quite a bit and she was and I was a big That's a big fucking dumb fuck problem on its own right there was Yeah mistake mistake, but she would do I've seen pictures of her back You know, we were together when she was like in her early 20s. She was not put together She grew up by them kind of like we duckling when I was with her at a great time, you know plastic Plastic makes perfect, you know, she was much hotter at that early 30s in early 20s That's unusual and you can't use that as an argument in totality But it's an experience that it's a real-life example of like how some stuff plays out in real life Yeah human life for men and women is complex You know if you're not if you don't get hit by a bus and you live life over a long period of time You know and you make it to your 30s and 40s people do all sorts of fucking wild out shit Yeah, a lot of it ends up being self-destructive particularly for women, but some of it's not and then men too You know, maybe they fuck up their 20s. There's a fuck up. They go to prison. They do drugs and shit when the 30s Sometimes they clean it up Yeah, yeah, just something real quick on what Andy was saying I for me I think age is When it comes to having children because you know some guys it's not good to have children Yes, yes 38 39 40 years old So if you want to start a legacy you want to at least have somebody whose body is intact that can give you healthy children opposed to Maybe children with disabilities and stuff as she gets old I'm not saying that it can't happen when she's younger, but you know, you want fertile, you know what I mean You want someone? Yeah, so that does play a part as well guys Yep 35 is the advanced maternity age according to modern medicine and what's actually practiced by doctors and stuff I need to preface this. This is exactly why this is exactly why this is an important conversation I I Literally just realized as smart as I am like all of the anecdotes all of my reasoning are specific to me All right, you may second phone lines are obviously open All right, very good. So all right. Can you guys hear me? Is there any feedback? Okay, very good. Excellent. So the phone lines are open 914 205 356. I Literally just realized that I'm giving this from my perspective. Hmm. I am I'm 41 I'm gonna be 42 years old in August. I don't want kids. I have no interest in kids So of course age is good. Well, of course and because I don't want a legacy I'm thinking you know what I'm willing to sacrifice a few years in terms of sexual market value and peak fertility For a little less risk because I don't want kids But you guys hit the nail on the head if you really want to pass on your legacy Then yeah age is absolutely a factor for me I'm not willing to take the risk of a younger hotter girl because to me. It's not worth it I don't want any kids of it. So why am I gonna take that risk? But for men who want to pass on their legacy that is a very strong biological connection And if passing on your legacy means taking on a bit more risk I think the both of you and I think I could speak for the both of you I think you I think that you guys would probably admit that that's a risk worth taking am I wrong That's the better option. Yeah, that doesn't mean that doesn't mean I'm gonna do it, but it means I'll probably That makes all sense or I had not even thought about that I've been real quick before you go to phones I just want to say somebody says something in the chat room that again This is where you don't understand see the thing about women and I'm not calling it women behavior Is you're always making excuses and being a victim towards things this works where we're talking about see a man Works through everything a man works through the winter spring summer fall. It could be Mars the moon When you sit and begin to make excuses of Well, it works in America, but it didn't work over here Then I need you to let me know why my boys are flying from America to Europe Smashing women just like they do it in America. See I did fine in Poland, man I fuck like this this famous little singer over there and shit. I was having a great time The woman there beautiful, too. There you go Yeah, I don't have anyone I want to hit this little super chat on 21 studios Yeah, I actually see it here a penny Ostrich or $1.99 super chat you want to read that question? Oh, go ahead Donovan go ahead So penny I can't pronounce the name. It looks like ostrich or says who is a regular woman BPD and PD Essentially, I'm Essentially all I'm learning from the red pill info out there is that women will respond to beta behavior very similar to NPD behavior TMF. Can you clarify? Yeah, I don't even know what TMF means put in there what TMF means Some sort of internet lingo like It's not you know, what is the SMA shake in my head and it's something like that I don't know. I'm actually I'm not sure if I'm following your question early. I mean, I'm reading it as it is Woman respond to beta behavior I mean women love AJ Cortez has said one of our speakers and he's been on the red man group a couple times I think he's right that male narcissism exhibited, you know properly or even improperly It's like the mirror to female solipsism and women are very attracted to it. They're very attracted to arrogant overtly narcissistic Bragg braggadocious to an extent bragging behavior All kinds of just ridiculous over the top shit that a lot of people will assume is like NPD Even the way I post on Twitter sometimes Because I'm not really with all of that stuff Oh, that's a cluster B disorder narcissistic personality disorder primarily known in the 90s as in before megalomania Like a megalomania. I could figure that's right. I think a lot of people are probably described cobertate like this Yeah, totally, but he's not NPD He's just and you know, I've been thrown talked about narcissism too in the dark in the nine laws in his work And it's not there's healthy levels of narcissism. It's fun. Like people accuse Donald Trump our president of being you know NPD all the time. He's not but he plays he exhibits and communicates in a way though that people they over assume That he's like that and they know they're you know, 99% of them are not fucking psychologist Anyway, there's mouth and off Wikipedia articles and shit shit. They write off Google But it's same thing with me now people accuse me being NPD or BPD and all this shit No, I strategically talk in a way that I think is useful and productive from our life and rational I don't give a shit if you're gonna over assume or diagnose me because your doctor Twitter About you know, what the fuck I have is a personality disorder. You can go fuck yourself now You don't have any of these people gotcha. Yeah In terms of woman responding to beta behavior versus NPD behavior I mean you can be a codependent narcissist that might be what she's referring to But she's not commenter the super chat person is not very specific but if it's if it's not codependent narcissism if it's just more like Cobertate style narcissism, you know, look at my fucking car bitch, you know, get on the fucking camera or whatever he's doing Well, yeah, like me make me some fucking cookies, bitch Yeah, this is people would assume this narcissistic behavior. They assume it's abusive. It's not this is what women are deeply attracted to For better and for worse man because look if a dude actually has NPD or some serious trauma that that is causing the behavior and his behavior Like this is not on purpose like it is for me and many others in the atmosphere a lot of you know Red Pill teachings are would be viewed in mainstream psychology is like narcissists rampant narcissism Well, it's symptom and as a symptom it is there the behaviors are the same the source though is different We're training and we're learning his behaviors on purpose because guess what? In terms of evolution and biology, this is what women actually respond to this is what they actually fucking want Yes, I want you to talk shit. They want you to choke them out. They want to love you They want to submit to you they want to do all these things I want to give you their fucking soul and they want you to fucking take it when they give it to you Give me that shit, bitch So, yeah, these this NPD shit the BPD shit to what you just said Anthony I think that men who exhibit it if it whether it's who they are or not and men with NPD They get better treatment from women than men who are not right? We talk about dark pride We talk about mentally deranged mentally complex mentally fucked up men do far better with women than men who are Mentally stable, right? Oh, yeah, I think one of Devin's I think one of the reasons Devin is attracted to me Is because I'm a volatile fuck man, like I mean You know what I mean, right rage mode Donovan when he's not on modern, you know, YouTube 2019 Just trying to tell you man It's like I wake up some days and like the slightest thing could set me off No, Devin doesn't like when I get all stupid, but she likes that unpredictability She like her on her toes and I don't do that on purpose. It's just well Here's another head trip She likes when you do things to an extent that she doesn't like you do these things anyway She doesn't like them and guess what you keep doing them anyway It's right now. There's a limit to how far you can push this It's within reason, but you're doing it and it's part of it's the negative emotions are fine that she feels for you That's part of being in a healthy relationship The feels women listen women and we'll get to the erico 951 your next 289 your next I'll submit this to you Anthony women would rather be Women want to be on that roller coaster ride Women don't they don't want to ride the teacups at Disney World. No, they want to ride the screamin eagle Roller coaster at Six Flags. They want to be scared. They want to be happy. They want to be elated They want to be afraid. They want they want that adrenaline rush This is why women who are in abusive relationships stick around not even women like getting their ass beat and by the way disclaimer No, I am not recommending that you hit women hitting women is wrong But this is why women respond more positively to physically Yeah, women go back to men who beat them all the time like it's crazy Yeah, they'll blame it all on the dude. It's like now This is what women want and this so that's what this woman is responding to in her actions Her words don't mean shit dude. She's doing good stuff. Let's go to the phone lines That's a good discussion erico 951. You were on with the red man group. Go ahead Hey guys, this is JC. Hey JC. What's up? No, we got you man. Well, I'm clear. Yeah Cool, I just wanted to go back to what you were talking about a few minutes ago with the age you know the maybe the best age for an LTR and We know that the more men a woman sleeps with the less likely she is to be able to successfully maintain a relationship, right long term so Even though a 22 year old would have more options than a 32 year old I think if we're playing the pink game, I'd rather take a woman who's Little more tread on her tires, right? Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean well just that the show you're doing yesterday with that chick who's had like, you know Hundreds of dudes. I mean the difference between 22 and 32. I mean how many hundreds more guys? She's been doing in that time period so she may have more options at 22, but if I can You know be the best option or the best option she perceives Then I might have a better chance than a 30 year old who's been around there and quite frankly I don't want to I don't want to be coming after a hundred different dick Well, this is so I want to follow up on this common air appreciate the color This is why women behaving this way at scale in America and in the West Western culture right now is a serious problem Because they're doing permanent catastrophic damage to themselves over time Right, you can't you can't undo getting dicked by a hundred dicks and getting your heart broken 87 times out of a hundred times you've been fucking around on tinder and bars and all this shit You there these women are trainwrecks and they can't fix it and they can't do it They won't even and now maybe it's a few of them will sure that's statistically that's going to happen I wish the best for them They need the help make them a great again, but more importantly if they need to not do this fucking damage That's why I said earlier in the show women need to fuck as much as they can over a lifetime and get fucking railed with as few men as possible Maybe it's not one. Maybe it's not some fucking fairy tale But like the single digits seriously and if you don't you're gonna end up fucking miserable and lonely all the bullshit about the Lonely old man, you know stuff that's gonna happen to the men, you know who don't or man children all this bullshit It's bullshit that doesn't happen to me that happens to women and they end up spinster cat ladies That are fucking miserable They're drinking themselves to death. There's all kinds of stats coming out on this. They're popping all kinds of pills antidepressants Yeah, not to mention not that's this legal stuff never mentioned in the illicit stuff or they're using prescription drugs And without a doctor's Reno consent and stuff. It's a fucking shit show man It's it's not just a huge problem It's one thing for us to look at it individually in terms of advice for a man or for the men watching this But even socially and culturally like this is a huge systemic problem That's about to blow up and all over faces of millennial women like this is pretty well. Yeah, it's a big problem Steve. What you got on this man? Call her I want to say a not true statement what you said because Don't assume just because she's young doesn't mean she ain't she's not fucking like these older women out there You've got to understand the younger she is who you think she's getting hit on or fucked by these older 50-year-old corporate guys that are coming down and smashing these women do it look at the look at the Instagrams the Instagram models and all these young girls out there Yeah, don't think that don't think she's not started sucking dick at 15 and Doing all this nasty stuff And and when she gets at 22 don't think that she they're at their peak Think of how many girls have been locked up by daddy that you know, you can't go out You can't do this and then when they get to college They act wild and crazy and all that other stuff where they they're sucking several dicks or G's Swinging threesomes. So don't don't assume just because she's 22 That mean she ain't fucking like a maybe a 30 the women today are totally it's a whole different ball game It's not about being ashamed of having sex and all that other stuff. These women are Using their bodies to get what they want. They're using their bodies to make money but they also are getting like at least it getting railed and Protted a lot especially when they get out the house Yeah, listen I listen I agree I agree with Steve and it's it's weird because it's almost I don't want to call it a self-fulfilling prophecy But it's it's it's very it's very cyclical, right? So mathematically speaking the longer someone has been around the more of something they have experienced Let's just take something very simple being around for a 32-year-old person He's eaten more food than a 22-year-old person by virtue of being having been around for a decade longer Well, the same thing with sex you would assume that a 32-year-old woman has had more sex than a 22-year-old woman Okay, maybe but here's the thing 32-year-old woman doesn't really have quite as many options the 22-year-old one has options all day long And if we know anything about women Anthony You said it right at the top of the broadcast you trust women to be women You cannot trust a woman not to be impulsive if a 22-year-old girl is getting dick thrown at her all day long Guess what she's gonna do. She's not she's not gonna just say no to dick She's gonna ride that carousel until she can't ride it anymore. So I agree that 100% of an let me play some doubles Advocate here. I think we're seeing social media So it you know 20 years ago it would have been absolutely, you know crystal clear true that a woman at 22 Is gonna have more SMV and therefore sexual options Than a woman at 32 is a little bit post couple years post wall at that point the issue I think now is that we're seeing you know social media particularly Instagram and then stuff like Tinder and Facebook and whatever Women are getting in it such a crazy amount of attention from men You know most of them are beta whatever it doesn't matter at the end of the day though male attention is male attention, right? They doesn't eat them. Yeah, it's all the same they value it differently, but it's still male attention, right? So they're getting such a cramming a woman now will post a photo of herself at the beach right in the bikini She'll get eight an average girl will get 200 500 800 a thousand There's some crazy amount of likes within like a day or two this amount and then the DMs the dick pic I'll shake on in her inbox. I mean she is flooded with male attention even at 32 years old Especially if she you know fix herself up. She keeps herself together Maybe she got a pair of fake tits at you know age 30 when she hit the wall very common I know because I'm watching for it on Instagram. I watch them slide in the DMs This is changing the environment those that I'm saying in a really an unprecedented way in human history women at 32 can still get a ridiculous amount of More than a woman 20 years ago kind of gotten into 22 That's what's flipping shit on its head that we've never seen before I'll put it to this way Anthony I'm gonna use an analogy Attention is attention no matter what a 22 year old could get a dollar's worth of attention from one person, right a 30 Two-year-old could get a penny's worth of attention from 100 men. Guess what? It's all the same as far She's concerned. She still made a dollar it doesn't it takes her a little listen It takes her a little less it takes her a little more time to get there But just like you said attention's attention and social media has changed it This is why this is a good discussion between all three of us because you guys are making me see things in in different ways Let's go to the phone lines. We're gonna go to area code two eight nine things we're holding are on live with the red man group Go ahead Hi guys, thanks for taking a call. Absolutely. Um, I think that called her a few weeks ago asking about Heednism I'm this time. I'm asking though what Donovan Sharp calls red pill meathead had a transition out of that Okay, I asked as I watched a buddy months ago what we got zero day would be hit rock bottom. Mm-hmm his Baby mama captain after he put her through school and I'm just doing a cost analysis and ROI and I mean This guy's on suicide watch basically anyway. I'd love to hear your thoughts guys. Thanks a lot. Yeah. Yeah Thanks for calling What he's talking about when he says what when he says meathead red pill guy and I think and and we've all seen this guy Meathead red pill guy is the guy who just found the red pill. They use definitive statements Never get married never gonna get good never gonna commit if she I don't care how hot she is if she fucks up one time She's fucking gonna give a fuck. That's meat head red pill guy guy who thinks he knows the game But doesn't really know the game and this is the this episode is perfect for this because if this episode shows Anything if you guys have if you guys haven't learned anything from what we're talking about is that every decision a man makes with a woman It's got to be nuanced the decisions I make are gonna be very different from the decisions that Steve makes that the standards and qualifications that Steve has are gonna Be very different form from the standards of qualifications that Anthony has the red pill is not black and white Meathead red pill guy thinks it's thinks it's black and white, but everything is very nuanced They're there are multiple layers So he's talking about his friend who's on suicide watch because he put his baby mama through school and now she's left him It's a sad story that Steve. What are your thoughts on that man? All right. Well, the thing is is that I I'm starting to see something with a lot of guys that sit around and just use the word red pill loose And that's that's one of the biggest issues that I'm seeing Look all a I can tell you guys. I'm Superman all goddamn day But until you see me fucking fly and run fast enough Then then I'm not Superman. This is not see this is not something that the thing and this is no This is a shameless plug for Anthony's 21 convention guys. Don't get rich opponent But what I'm saying is is that? Red pill is not something you put on like a coat and that's where a lot of y'all guys think Something or you can hang up like a hat We're trying to show you that this is a man is internally this works on the inside You if you're saying you're something, but you're not living that life. You're just lying to yourselves So you call it a meathead Donovan I just call it a man that's lying to himself or is afraid to look at his truth It's not about a color. It's a well to me It's a mindset Don't sit around and scream and beat your chest say look You know when you when you have money and we're in a rich place You don't have to ask how much something costs, you know, I mean you don't need to go around screaming You're something you know, I don't do you scream you I've never ever seen since I've seen a one or Donovan or any other guy. I've never seen him walk around. Hey, good morning. Hey, I'm red pill, man You know, you know, you know, you know, we go I'm by age Steve. I'm going to Poland. Oh, I see I've got to tell you I'm red pill You don't you don't see that shit with real motherfuckers because You don't have to tell a motherfucker you red pill because when you red pill those around you who are red pill Already know that's all I wanted to say on that. No, I I agree 100% Steve people Typically not always but typically people who are something you don't talk about it very much because it's internalized And you just don't care, you know, if you're alpha, you don't walk around saying I'm off this fuck bitch Let's go. Unless you're fucking people trolling them on purpose. If you're red pill, you don't sound red pill I get it. Do you just don't care? another thing to with the red pill I think under I think Seeing the red pills seeing the truth is different from understanding it. Yes They're not the same thing and what I've realized at 30 now my ripe old age, right? But I'm feeling I'm feeling I'm feeling mage a little bit, right? And I'm really I'm not a teenager anymore by a long shot and I'm not in my 20s anymore in my 30s Independent of how smart you are independent of even experience, which is a big factor Independent of the knowledge you've been fortunate enough to find and then digest and genuinely accept it is true It still takes time Just raw time to understand women it takes cold approach to takes, you know The experience that accumulates over time But even the time to just mature and digest and go through other parts of life that give you reference Experiences and additional input for how the world fucking works You then pull that back into women you apply that to your red pill understandings of women and the knowledge You believe is true But it just takes time like I get you could have given me all these ideas We have now that are in my head you could have given them to me at 21 I could have agreed with you it wouldn't matter even if you even if I had all the experience to do now because it just takes fucking time It takes trying time to rewire your brain and internalize these things to the point of action and making it fluid, right? I guess like maybe Neo to the matrix or whatever it just becomes Eventually, you know the dodge. You don't have to dodge bullets, right? You won't you just don't have to Kind of an old thing You see the code in the matrix and I remember That's I remember when Neo asks him. Are you telling me that I can dodge bullets and Morpheus says you're telling you that when you figure it out You won't have to and there at the end he looks down the hallway Agents and he sees them in matrix code exactly and before everyone thinks that that comes from like some super hardcore red pill knowledge They just find that one idea or that one thing or this one community that no It's like, you know, that was a movie in real life. This shit takes time. It's not just about the experience It's not just about the knowledge. It's not just about the ideas It's not just about failures and success and going through all this shit with women It just takes time you have to be patient And it's already a fairly come to appreciate that you don't sit in a chair and then they put something in your neck and I know kung fu. No, it doesn't work that way You have to go out here and you have to experience this stuff and before we go to the phone lines To me I compare it to fucking you can have watched porn all your life and have never had sex You can know every position isn't any other You don't learn to fuck by watching other people fuck you learn to fuck by fucking If you want to really get down to the brass tack, so I think that's a very good I think that's a good analogy there 914 205 356 Is the number to call airy code 845 you are on live with the red man group go ahead Hey guys, you hear me? Yes, sir Yep, thanks for taking my call. So, um I wrote the message before the name penny off striker. So you guys oh, that's you announce my name, right? Okay penny off Yeah, thank you so much for addressing the comment Uh, before I continue speaking. I want to let you guys know that english is not my first language Pretty much my third one. So I'll try my very best. Listen you sound good so far Yeah, thank you So basically first of all, I want to thank you guys for everything the 21 convention. It's amazing stuff and and to me Thank you so much for your work and all your other guys Um, I had a hard time to it. It was limited for me to basically, um Explain my question that I had about npdbpb Uh, so let me be pretty good again. Okay, because I think it was a little bit miscommunicated Um, I don't know how much time I have to speak but pretty much When I was I was married for 13 years to one woman. I got married when I was 20. This is the community. I'm coming out from so I had to kind of leave a religion and long story short We had three children got divorced. I didn't have a chance to date too many women and then I went into a rebound relationship I was trying to pretty much Educate myself about women as much as I can found this woman stood my ground had frame control to a degree And it went very well all of a sudden the tables turned and she was bitching that I'm not committing to a relationship Long story short It yeah, so basically I pulled away. She was crying. I felt bad for her and I was like beating myself up Why do you feel bad for her? You need to go out there and and you know See your opportunities and find other women, but at the end of the game I stuck around And she became the biggest nightmare in a very covert way me to say Never was never accountable for anything Stonewalling me completely. So everything was You know deflecting. I'm trying to make it as short as possible. It threw me into complete You know, I lost ground and um a lot of rumination So I started binge watching all these and I think anthony, you know, and richard gran and and the rest of them Oh, yeah about personality disorders But from there and I literally started seeing copy-paste like I went to a therapist at one point and It threw me off course. I couldn't focus on my business. It's pretty difficult. It's a mind job. So so What I said, it's a mind job and it really works on your mind It it does it does and I constantly demand it for myself to be stronger The point is is that then I bumped into the rectal idea and I'm like Holy shit as strong as I thought I was You know, a lot of Certain behaviors of mine was like really empathetic caring A good communication, you know, the regular stuff. I don't know if you can call it beta or I don't know what titles are put on it But it's definitely confusing right now looking into all, um, you know I don't know which name to mention rollo to mafia or the rest of them just The idea of how women think and how men are what they're really looking for I started using that with that girl breaking away from her coming back to her trying to detach myself being more of an asshole standing my ground It works sometimes But the rules are not really the same supposedly meaning to say because if she is a highly Narcissistic or potentially psychopath then she always needs to be in control Like whatever you're going to do. She's always bouncing back and has to be in control You see what I'm trying to say. Yes, sir Yeah, listen, uh, oh no go ahead go ahead finish out go ahead No, no, no, no, so basically this is the confusing part It's true that it's my fault right now that i'm not going out there And you know trying to hook up with other women So potentially I can learn more about the differences between you guys just we're talking about it before like You need to go out there and suck and pretty much learn it on your own not just, you know Knowing the information so I agree with that part just for me. I'm trying to clear up this confusion like I'm like Who is a normal woman? Who is this ordered? How much should I beat myself up? Did I do something wrong or No, there are certain things that I was totally not wrong just this woman is this order And I think I can let me let me talk this girl quick. So I mean here's my first thought I think I think you're kind of like halfway down rabbit hole right now the red pill rabbit hole And I think when you're where you're going to end up at when you leave the rabbit hole when you get to the end of it And leave is that you'd be surprised how How thin the line is between a normal woman who's not disordered And a woman who has some set of a cluster B disorder or some or some a wide disparity Yeah, or some set of symptoms that are a minimum Giving you the impression or suspicion that maybe she has something like seriously wrong with her Which is a lot. There's like like 15 to 20 percent of women or some shit have like a mental health disorder even more 23 percent Um, whether it's depression or npd or bpd or all kinds of shit Like this is this is not just women but men too like a big chunk of men have personality disorders So the end of the day the the issue today with this the richard grandin gets into it on a video on our channel 21 studios We have uh, basically understanding like female and artists and stuff You know they're trained, you know when they're unchained by culture and by religion and by you know Men in a culture that don't you know give them boundaries and stuff Women disordered or not act out in really fucked up ways And the problem with that today is that that is not talked about and that is like suppressed massively through blue kill conditioning And across every facet of culture I mean for you to even ask this question on air like this people most, you know, most people would scream at you All this guy's a misogynist. He just hates women. He's better from a relation. All this fucking bullshit No, like you you're trying to really solve a riddle in your head Like is this woman fucking nuts or is this how women are? Or maybe she's a little bit nuts and just being extra womanly or something You have to figure that you're basically in the process of figuring this out And I think a few months from now a few years from now You'll answer your own question over time By doing the research like you're doing and asking these kind of questions and thinking about it Digesting what you're reading and what you're seeing And ramp All right I want to take this on the other side of the spectrum for this young man I wrote some things down that you said you talked about learning about women you talked about Her crying and you feeling bad for her the gator tears You talked about you're sticking around with a woman who's not accountable You talked about reading books and things like that. So let me tell you something Use anthony and donovan as a example young man anthony and donovan can read as many books as they want You want to know why because They just don't read books They go outside their door and they and they learn what the real world is like The problem with a lot of you guys out there y'all read these four or five books And you think that's the end all be all by reading the book and And I and I know you're from another country, but over here There's a why I receive it by the name of jerry rice one of the Of all time, okay And his greatness Was displayed on the football field, but what you saw on sunday was a byproduct of the hard work He did on the back end the stuff that nobody saw you just saw the the byproduct on the football field What I mean by that is this you guys can't read a book to learn how to catch a football You can't read a book to learn how to drive And you can't keep reading books thinking that that is going to be the antithesis of every woman because all women are different All women have different personalities, but until you get out there and not only learn about women But most importantly learn about yourself See you you were so busy trying to learn about women You never really took the time to learn you and have a standard because if you had a standard There wouldn't be no gator tears. There wouldn't be her guilting you There wouldn't be you sitting here saying I was with a woman who wasn't accountable when you learn more about yourself Yeah, if you want to read a book read a book But don't just read a book get your ass out there and learn about the real world That sometimes books can't show you a book when a a when a book is printed That's all it can teach you is whatever is on that piece of paper That is as far as it goes the world still moves and still changes Women still move and operate on different levels And if you're sticking to just reading and not getting out there and learning about manhood And learning about yourself you're gonna be in these situations where I can't blame the woman for treating you and being mean to you Listen, I don't I don't like when women do y'all wrong But one thing I can't do is I can't blame her for something you have allowed her to do You allowed her to do that. She didn't do it. She just tried to tell what y'all call shit test She shit tested you and realized that you were soft You had no spine and you compromised So again, she's going to use the gator tears and she's not going to be accountable because like anthony and donovan been telling you All so long is that we train these women on how to treat us We don't allow them just to run rapid and wild in our lives and do what they want to do. Fuck no Listen, you're you're absolutely right. Um, and I think they called us red pill masturbation And i'm not accusing the caller Um of you know red pill masturbating, but there are a lot of guys out there who find the red pill And they only they they they they never put it into action They like to read it. They like to be involved in videos. They like to chat and talk about theories But they never really go out there and do it Well, i'm red pill and i'm this and that and the other no you're not shit until you actually go out there and do that Right, um, we got guys from you know coming in here talking about another show I'm sure these other shows are great But it doesn't do you any good watching us or watching them or whoever it is This is why the 21 convention is where it's at Because the 21 convention is tangible, right this show listen this show is important My show is important steve show is important But in terms of relevance it pales in comparison to actually seeing Feeling shaking hands with men who are tangible men who are in front of you You understand what i'm saying it listen it's one thing to have a youtube channel and be you know and be an influencer Okay, great But unless you take your online success and parlay that with offline success You're really just masturbating along with everybody else I'm going to continue to do my show because this is how I grow my audience But next summer I plan on taking I plan on taking the party offline like anthony johnson did what 10 12 years ago That the difference likes and dislikes don't Likes and dislikes only matter on the internet likes and dislikes are important to people who who don't want to apply the red pill Oh, you've got this many likes. You got this many dislikes. Okay. That's all well and good But what does it matter out on the real world? What are you going to go out there and tell somebody out of the real world? Well, this show got a hundred dislikes. They're not that doesn't mean it Don't even think about this think about what it means when a human being when a man in the man is here or whatever Watches one of our videos and hits the like button or dislike button or whatever right? Okay, cool I appreciate you be engaging with the content Now compare that to 21 con or doing your own workshop donovan sharp stuff. Maybe you're now or something Yeah, someone, you know in the case of 21 convention, which I know more more about obviously You know 200 men or whatever fly around from we're in from around the world Most do not live in florida or poland or whatever where we're doing it A majority fly in from they're flying in you know for a two hour flight a five hour flight A 10 hour flight some even flying from like india and new zealand and australia and shouts Crazy they buy the flight they take time out of their life. They buy the ticket. It's over a thousand dollars u.s They get a hotel they pay for uber's parking food all the shit They have invested a serious think about that like button That's the ultimate fucking like button when someone has the balls and the tenacity and the investment and the And the care to fund the value to show the fuck up out of respect for themselves and for you and for what you're doing To be a part of it That's a like button times like a million these little fucking losers that are tracking all my content right now Downvoting is a sock You're not okay. That's fine. These guys are for fat Cartman, you know south park mother fuckers playing world of warcraft Eat and cheeto dust all over him and shit And they're just like downloading because there's fucking losers with nothing else to do And you know, I appreciate people with the like button But really man, you want the like button for what we do for what I do for all these men do You know meet them in real life at 21 convention or anything else that they do like a workshop or something I know tanner guzzy and ad ladam or an a.k.a. Cortez for example We're doing a workshop in november or something this year in california Like that's another event you should go to 21 convention We have we've had three this year one already the patriarch now pollin in orlando the more next year Show the fuck up you care about this community You care about this content you care about your own life and getting the most out of it Anything the most input and the most advice from these men the panelists and stuff Meet them shake their hand have dinner Have coffee maybe go pick us some chicks do something man Yeah, get up get up off your ass and show the fuck up put your ass in the seat Listen acting on verba, man. That's the way it goes. That's right acting on verba. Action's not words or actions are words I I totally agree and listen no one's gonna i'm not gonna sit here and say that analytics Aren't important but again when you compare it to an offline event a tangible event something Something that you can access outside of your phone. See see this I've got the red man group on my phone right now What is this is this going to help me out in the real world world? Hell no my phone nothing in my phone nothing intangible is going to help me What's gonna help me is going out and meeting guys like anthony guys like steve guys like myself Just like you said at latimore aj cortez and tenor guzzy dude. Those are those guys are top guns, man so So as far as likes and dislikes are concerned and by the way dislikes are still engagements So whoever that person was, you know, well, you enjoy your hundred dislikes Actually, we kind of will because a dislike is an engagement a negative comment is an engagement So everything that comes in here wants to talk shit about our numbers and figures. You're doing us a favor You're giving us views. You're giving us watch time. You're giving us engagement. So we appreciate that So go back over and watch your other show listen. I'm sure the other show is great I like I like I like every guy over there no problem and to be quite honest with you I'm not trying to get into the weeds here But the the the recent splits that have happened when you think about it And I know anthony probably feels a little bit differently because because of the because of the situation But as far as i'm concerned I think everybody wins because there are not there's not just one show anymore Now there are two shows where groups of men panelists are talking about the same things There might be some fundamental differences But now you have two shows that are dedicated to red pill comments So for anyone who wants to talk shit. Oh, you picked the wrong side and it's not the other. No I didn't pick any side I'm on the red pill side and like or dislike the guys over there or over here at the end of the day We're all on the same side We might not all like each other for for various reasons But I think I think the red pill community wins in the end. I want to say something real quick It's and guys y'all gotta understand something It's it's not a necessary about size to me. It's about men. See I don't I never choose sides That's all about dick size. Oh, yeah Oh, you said sides my bad sides Sides did Okay That size y'all you confused me done What i'm saying is this uh guys is that Real see in the in the in the black community. They got this thing called real recognized real. That's right. Okay And it is not a question whatsoever When I met anthony, well, I've known about anthony, but when I met him He was a real motherfucker and I and and you don't believe I tell him that all the time And I keep telling because when you recognize a real motherfucker just like don't you recognize real You know that these motherfuckers ain't playing games. They're here to help and they're trying to do things They're not running around like this. Like I told y'all in this matrix. You got those agent smiths You're gonna have guys out there Hating anthony for what he's doing because they don't want that information out because most of the time they're trying to protect mommy Yes, trying to protect women They don't want you guys to know the truth because if you know the truth That means you can't be in that crab in a bucket bucket barrel with the rest of the motherfuckers out there That's hating something but in in the hate is great. Why? Because They're reckoned they're taking time out of their schedule Anthony and donovan don't know have to they don't know any of these guys, but you know what those guys know them They don't anthony and donovan don't wake up every morning saying. Oh gee. I guess roger doesn't like me today. Oh my god Anthony's thinking about cookies and babies and whatever the fuck he's saying nothing I've been thinking about what him and devil gonna be chilling and doing they're thinking about these motherfuckers But that's how men behave. We push forward Y'all got this last thing I want to say for all y'all guys out there recognize the behaviors of feminine energy Mama point the finger being a victim and not liking someone because their pee pee got hurt man Fuck them bitches, man 100% facts son facts I bet listen That's a good way to end the show unless anybody else anything else donovan. I gotta I gotta comment here So I was following what you were saying donovan, you know, I appreciate it. Obviously amount takes a bit different I've commented plenty publicly. Uh, my basic thought is this the split that we just saw, you know, that went down That's the manisphere and the red pill community healing itself I make no apology for kicking out traders from remissed. I don't believe the men that are gone now Have a real dedication to truths including red pill truths These men are either shields from money or for a cult of personality They are not here for the red pill. They're not here for men. They're not here for the manisphere We are and I make no apology about that. No mercy Hashtag no mercy. All right on that note guys, that is going to do it for the 72nd episode of the red team group We appreciate everyone who has come in. We appreciate all of the commenters penny with the dollar 99 super chat Rob cruise with the 30 dollar super chat herman, my yorga With the one dollar super chat. Oh my yorga. I've only heard that name once. I was ricardo. My yorga I think he was a I think a middleweight champion at some point or another You guys be sure to follow all of us on facebook twitter instagram. Just type in our names You guys can tune into my show Monday through friday now And I usually go on the air about noon friday sometimes around nine And then of course, uh, be sure to uh to subscribe to my patreon. That's patreon.com slash donovan sharp Be sure to like comment subscribe on my channel go to donovan sharp.com anytime right now. I am actually giving away um a I'm giving away my seven hour five part audio course On how to build a quality woman from the ground up This is a compilation of all of the episodes I did on build a better woman week It is absolutely free. All you got to do is subscribe to my email list and you guys know i'm not one to blow up your email I only email you stuff that's important. So get on over to donovan sharp.com slash Free dash course again. That's donovan sharp.com slash free dash course to get your hands on that Steve anything you're working on this week anything you want people to know about? Uh, no, I just wanted everyone to know uh that we have the red pill mindset show on this station on monday So that's her good show man And also I I do hit and run shows all the time guys So just add the man mindset to twitter instagram or facebook when I'm gonna do a riding with the dean where I answer questions like that I'll post it there and let you guys know but I at the end of the day. I do want to say Thank you to you donovan Thank you for you anthony for who the fuck y'all are and I do want to say one more goddamn thing on my soapbox Don't think the difference between this war was going on with anthony's doing and what they are doing are the same As a man you are allowed to defend your fucking Self you're allowed to defend your company. You're allowed to defend your mother fucking name And that's all a1. It has been doing up to this point a1 is not acting feminine a1 is not bitching. He's just doing what men do I have to bust a name fucking house and try to take over and try to call him out on shit So don't y'all need to learn from what anthony is doing and don't judge what he's doing because this is how men respond See, you know anthony's like this anthony is a cool motherfucker, but I'll tell you this Don't take his kindness for weakness or what you see what you haven't seen right there is what you get from a real man All anthony is doing is being a man. He's not showing feminine behaviors by talking shit and trying to do things to hurt Hurt his product in his brand that's I mean, I didn't mean I didn't mean to get on my soap But but I just need y'all guys out there to understand what the difference is is how men behave As a man remember you go and expand your territory, but you defend it as well So if he's defending it don't look at it like he's being all well, why is he acting all feminine? He's not acting feminine. He's just a man protecting his own So y'all guys need to look and see how the real game is. That's all I wanted to say man Good, I appreciate that steeve. I'm a man taken out the manosphere of virtue signaling trash And I make no apology for it But in terms of positivity and things of putting out content wise I will be releasing my full 2018 keynote speech at the convention Yeah The future is still masculine. That'll be releasing this weekend Either this evening or most likely tomorrow and sunday the full thing will go out. It'll be a 21 studios I might cross post it to red man group, but I'm trying to keep that minimal I think most of it should just be arm g content, obviously There's a good, you know cross compatibility between the channels. That's a super fun talk I got a standing ovation for it. I was very proud I put my heart and soul into it and it was savage as fuck I think it's the best talk I ever gave but I'm happy to hear the feedback And what the viewers think tomorrow when it goes out for free Of course, it's been a 21 university for a long time About a month an hour or something like that a couple weeks Maybe like a month and a half Okay And anybody a red man group can join 21 university and support the red man group by joining it through the link in the description Underneath all the red man group videos. It's like a join 21 university arm g link And I appreciate you guys support and I look forward to meeting a lot of you guys soon in warsaw poland and later this year Orlando florida Off my soapbox