 Welcome back, it is still the run-up. We're glad to know that you're still watching. We're taking this conversation back to where we started from, talking about the road leading up to 2023 general elections. The questions are still the same. Are we ready to have that conversation with us this afternoon? We have Dr. Law Mefor. Good afternoon and welcome. Dr. Mefor, can you hear us? Thank you for hosting me. Yeah, thank you. All right, 2020 general elections. Yes, let's continue. The 2023 general elections are very close. We keep getting closer to the D-Day. How do you, you know, what's your perspective to the 2023 general elections? Do you think Nigeria and Nigerians are ready for the elections? Okay, Nigerians are eager for the election. This preparation is coming up from the political class, and that the reason is simple. They don't want to let go of power. There's so much violence on the process. You can see a lot of the place. Very exalt, married, it is conducts everywhere. You saw the experience of the PDDP in a very great way. You saw the experience also in a cabinet. You saw the experience of the ABC in a plage group. You saw the experience of Lebo in a adjunct in a brownie. But the story is not just about the edge of the list. Address awarded the person on the list. He was very clear that the threats are real. And he presented the political class as the ones really perpetuating the violence they visited under the electoral process. I-NECC, I think it's a good idea. The body language of I-NECC is good. Chairman of I-NECC is insisting on the deployment of PDVAS. And then if we understand what the PDVAS is supposed to bring to the table, we'll see why that commitment of I-NECC to the deployment of PDVAS is so fundamental because the modern-line accreditation system by the use of PDVAS means that if you are not accredited with PDVAS or by PDVAS, you will not be able to vote. That is very fundamental. In the case of both by proxy, it's out of the way. All of them snatching out of the way. We're doing what we call assistance from out of the way. And then the final results after correction, we have to be entered into the form of DCA and then captured by PDVAS and transmitted to the portal or the server. Really, at the time, it's very fundamental. I think that what you are calling is the global rigidity. It appears the network is not very favorable for that. But he was making some really good points. It's unfortunate that the audio was not good enough. But in 2023, he doesn't seem to believe that we are ready for 2023 because of body language of some quarters, some relevant agencies that should be responsible for the 2023 election. Bayo, are you still there? Bayo, yes. Maybe we just wrap it up on this. So 2023, a lot of people have talked about it. Liberios talked about it earlier on. And even though Dr. May 4, we couldn't get much of what he was saying. But he was saying that a lot needs to be done. And apart from that, we're also talking about some other issues that just cropped off about the sensors and all that. So we'll just take a wrap up from you about what you feel about these things we've been talking about today. Well, from what I've heard Dr. May 4, actually, I thought he was saying that I make us put things in place. Because I heard him saying that the process of what's in itself, which eliminates bandwidth snatching and all that, because you can't go and snatch. I mean, it's electronic, so what are you snatching? So maybe the audio wasn't very, very clear. So I probably might not also have heard clearly. Yeah, it was really disjointed. So maybe we heard wrong even. So that's it. But if you heard him better, tell us what he said and what you feel about what he said. OK, I just summarized what I thought I heard. I thought I heard him saying that he was actually particularly emphasizing this and saying that it's going to make it difficult for anyone to go and snatch other boxes and things like that. Now, I feel that there's something we need to keep in focus. There's hardly a perfect dimension. As much as we strive to make sure we're going to get it right. And this is not an excuse for us not to do the right thing. I don't want to be misunderstood. I'm not saying I should not do what is still to between now and February when the election starts. But what I'm saying is that even in the largest democracies or more experienced democracies, there are still issues. You have what happened in the US in the last election with former President Trump. You saw all that played out. You will have thought that could never happen in the US, right? We also have other countries where there are issues to do with ballot stopping and all that. The question is always that, what was done to stop those things from influencing the outcome of the elections? And if those who are tempted to perpetrate those things were held accountable and were made to face the full brunt of the law. So let's just keep this in perspective. Now, having said that, I feel that we are on course for the 2023 elections. The whole country is looking and waiting for it. I mean, if something were to happen, and I hope not to make the elections go ahead, I don't want to think of the consequences. People want this election. Everyone is looking forward to it. People have enthusiastically gone out to register and now they're waiting to cast their votes. So I think all we can do is to just continue to encourage people to make the right choice. And to forget about ethnic sentiments and all kinds of sentiments that will not make us pick the right candidates for the job. And people need to be asking questions. And people need to know who cancelorship candidates are. Local government chairpersons are who are these people on which parties are they contesting. We need to be asking these questions because especially the local government is the closest to every single one of us. OK. Well, the outcome of what just happened now is funny. Dr. Mepho said something positive. Aye, let me talk for myself. I heard wrong. I heard something like he was saying we were not ready and so on. But this just brings me to the dangers of not hearing well. The dangers of gossip. The dangers of fake news. Yeah, because if you're telling somebody something and he doesn't listen well, he carries that message to someone else. The wrong message. And yes, it keeps circulating. And as it goes, it waters down. And until it becomes an outright lie. So in cases or in the days leading to 2023, we have to be careful how we hear things, where we hear things from, and know how to use the information that we get. Otherwise, you'll just be like me, hearing one thing when someone is saying something else. I take that entirely as my fault, even though the audio is not good enough. But that is not an excuse. And I would also say that even though we have a lot of work to do, I think the Nigerian democracy, we are making progress, moving forward, but we're still pretty young. And I think we should take it easy on ourselves. Take the American democracy, for instance. I mean, how old are they now? They started way before us. I'm sure there were days when they faced the kind of problems Nigeria is facing today. But then, because I'm saying this is not an excuse, while we are taking it easy on ourselves, I think we need to make conscious efforts to progress and be better. And that starts with voter education, that starts with trying to make a way with voter apathy, that starts with trying to make a way with corruption and whatever negativity that we are facing today in the country. This is my small motivational point. Well, 2020 is bound to be very, very interesting. And like I said, I'm optimistic it's going to be safer than people are thinking it's going to be. So get ready to go out and vote. Vote a candidate of your choice. Vote your conscience. Vote everything that, vote because of Nigeria, not because of an individual or anything. Look at the Nigerian factor. Be patriotic about your voting. And like they say, sick year first, wanting, wanting, and every other thing shall be added up to you. In this case, sick year first, the votes that you need to cast and Nigeria just might be the kind of Nigeria you want. Until we see each other again next week, my name is Nyamgul Agadji. And I am Uche Chuku Onode. Bye, thank you for being back. OK, thank you for having me. Thank you very much. Bye for now.