 Moving on, moving on to the other two gentlemen here, we have Sunil Tunsiani. Now, a very interesting story. He was a police detective who later on became a real estate mogul. So first I thought I was reading the script of some Hollywood script. Then I kept on reading and I thought that this is actually happening. How exactly did that happen? I mean, yeah. What happened? As from police detective to real estate mogul, how did that change happen? Why did that change happen? Why is because my wife came to me and said I won't have a divorce. And we don't see you. You work days, you work nights and you have two choices. Job or the family, which one? So majority of my friends would have chosen job because being a police officer, being a police detective was not doing I am, I am it. I'm the being of that. So it's not a job for me. It's who I am, who I identify myself. But then I realized that I did it for 15 years and I chose the family. So I gave that up and then I didn't know what to do. I had no idea. I had no entrepreneurship skills. I was shy. I was a bad student. I didn't like schooling and so I can't even go out and say, and then somebody say, your spelling is bad. Your grammar is bad. You know, you're not going to mount to anything else kind of thing. So one day I opened up a newspaper and Mr. Robert G. Allen's ad shows up and said, you can buy a real estate normally now. Who's going to be at the gross summit tomorrow. Right. And I took his course. I paid $5,000 for the first time in my life. I paid, I hadn't even paid $20 before, but now I paid $5,000. Took his course and that course changed my life and changed my mindset. And my shift shifted my mind to say that you can actually invest in real estate. And people all over the world said, yeah, that works in Canada. It's not in India. If it cannot happen in India. I would sort of agree. Yes. Yes. But most of the people who say that, I bet you that won't. Or the mindset. Or the mindset. Because mindset won't. Because obviously people who have money, we know they can do it. So the idea is if you have money, you can grow. But if you have no money, you can grow too. Right. So first of all, I think mindset is very important. And another thing which a lot of users will take away. The wife can be a very big motivator. Moving on to the third gentleman here, his name is Sne Desai. Now tell me if I have this right. Sne at the age of four started meditating. At the age of 14, he became a yoga charya. And then at the age of 16, your father's business failed. He went bankrupt. And that's how your journey to become a transformational coach really happened. Ate me through that time. How did you become a transformational coach? And the fact that becoming a yoga charya by the age of 14. Don't hear that every day. My father knew that if I just went to school, it's not going to be enough. So he sent me to a meditation class at the age of four. To a psychology subconscious mind. Gold setting class at the age of six and seven. To a public speaking class at the age of eight and nine. And he inspired me to be on stage at the age of nine. So for the very first time, I'm speaking in front of 150 people when I'm nine. And back in those days, I was known as the youngest speaker in India. I don't know if that's correct. But then that's how it went on. I was, you know, then sent to a yoga class, Reiki, NLP, sales, hypnot therapy, many different subjects were explored. And when my father had financial challenges, that's when I thought that this passion of mine can be converted into profession. And I can help my family. That's how it started. It was not our inspiration, but more out of desperation. Also, just since you're on the same topic, do you think a lot of the stress levels today have sort of gone up because meditation and yoga, these things are missing from people's lives? Or is that just lack of a PCI saying? I surely agree that meditation can help us a lot because today when we talk about money and success, that's the, you know, most important part I would say, but equally we have to balance it with our personal life. And that's where, you know, as you know that 80% of the diseases are becoming psychosomatic. So that's where meditation yoga can surely help. Yeah. Right. Robert, back to you. How did you get involved with the Growth India Summit? This is actually a question for, I mean, all three of you, but to start off with you in the Growth India Summit. We're coming over here and speaking about the summit, but we went there. Then by the way, come up. Short and sweet. I'm very accurate with my mic, sir. I was thinking about, you were talking about yoga. Yeah. It's crucial. Yeah. What about you? I mean, are you into any sort of exercise or yoga or meditation? Well, I shouldn't be, but I'm not. No, I do it, but not. Because you look pretty fit for your age. You look pretty fit for your age. Well, thank you. But anyway, my doctor is also familiar. Oh. He's always telling me to meditate. Okay. To stress that. I have heard this before. I meditate once in a while, but not all the time. I agree. It's important. He agrees, but he won't do it very often. Fair enough. Last question, really, again, to Robert, to wrap up the interview, because I know that they have to rest somewhere else. Robert, I mean, you've actually already answered this question through the example which you showed on the board. But would you say that entrepreneurship is important for everyone to attain financial freedom or just for a select few? I already know the answer, but I want to hear it from you. I mean, if it comes upon the person, most people could be an entrepreneur. I think everybody could be. For example, in my neighborhood where I live, it's a very rich neighborhood. And my neighbor sends their doctor around, and she babysits. So the babysitter is an entrepreneur. So everybody could be a company. And the trouble that most people are becoming entrepreneurs, they're going to a higher tax rate. That's why they can't make it. So they work harder. They do it. They're smart people, generally. Like my doctor, a very smart person. And what money she makes, the more she pays in taxes. But that's not very smart to me. But to shift over to the B and the I side, it's a whole another thing. So that's what we're working on right now.