 It's an overabundance of something else, maybe Brussels sprouts or Ongyones, otherwise known as Ongyans. Yeah, and that's how people got along, and then they sold. They had roadside stands or something. Whatever. Yeah. Or they took up the market. We're talking about... Market. Market. Big marketes. We're talking about family-owned farms, not corporate-owned farms. Oh, those we got to give subsidies and grants to. But the family-owned farms... Oh, they don't get the subsidies. They're moochies. Oh, they don't get the subsidies and grants. No, they don't. What do you think that fight over the food stamps was all about with the farm bill? Only the Fat Cat farms get the subsidies. That's correct. Subsidies. And the middlemen. See, it's okay... The wholesalers. It's Republican darlings in Congress. It's okay to give welfare to the rich. Yeah. It's not okay. It's the thing to do. It's the thing to do. But heaven forbid, you're not rich, and you want a little subsidy for yourself and your family. Then you should pull yourself up out of those stamps. Then they get all upset. And earn it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, earn it. Now, get an organ grinder and a monkey with a tin cup and crank the organ grinder at the box. Now, in the old days... Where were the jobs? Before SSI, you were on a street corner selling pencils. Arms. Arms. Arms for the poor. Arms for the poor. Arms for the poor. Arms for the poor. And some Sinbad, not Sinbad, Aladdin or what are those? I don't know. Some movie with Donald O'Connor. And he was in Baghdad. And now, of course, Donald O'Connor looked nothing like an Iraqi. And there was a guy begging on the streets with a long beard and saying, arms for the poor, arms for the blind. He's begging. He's begging. He's a beggar. Today, they would call them panhandlers. Yeah. To make it sound fancy. And they would want, Republicans would want, if they gave them a quarter, they would want to know how he's going to spend it. Oh, that's how stingy they are. They never understood the, when you give a gift, that's the end for you. You have no more control over that gift. Well, Republicans usually give for a reason. It doesn't come from the goodness of their heart. Like, if they need a tax write-off or they, you know, or they're trying to curry favor with you because you have something that they want. You know, John Stewart said something a little bit. He'll be back. He said something clever. John Stewart says that an entitlement is only an entitlement if you have something someone else wants. It becomes an entitlement. It's incredible that people will continue to support a party that is working to cut the very programs they desperately need. The amount of people receiving food stamps doubled in 254 counties in America from 2007 to 2011. Hmm. Yet 213 of those counties supported Republican Mitt Romney. Uh-huh. I like this article. One county with 52% of its population receiving food stamps cast 81% of its votes for Romney. The same goes with gun control. The states with the most lax gun laws also have the highest percentage of gun violence. Most of the states are red states. Is it not in the states and voters best interest to reduce gun violence? I would not be surprised if residents in these 213 counties are also against raising the minimum wage. Surely a raise would be in their best interest. What are the issues that make these voters vote the way that they do? It makes you wonder if they are aware of what they are voting for. Are they voting for their best interest or just voting against the other party? And this goes back to what we say all the time. Democrats are baby killers, demons, secular humanists. There are two parties, Republican and Democrat. I will not vote for a baby killer. I will vote for a Republican. Is this coming from you or the other party? This is me. Why didn't this person add that? Why are they voting against their best interests? An independent free thinker would say, wait a minute. They are voting against their best interests obviously. Why are they voting for the wrong party that is against them? What logical explanation do they have? And then they should follow through with Dr. Bill's comment about their crazy ideology and their cult. I won't call it a religion. Yeah, religious cult. All religions are cults. They are cults. 99.9% of other religions are counterfeit. Christian. 99.9%. I have no truck with the other ones. They can do what the hell they want. They don't have to be right or wrong. But if you call yourself a Christian, then you better be biblical. You know, they are so worried about what they hear after that they are literally starving themselves out right here on earth. They are literally killing themselves and their families by voting Republican. And they don't even know it because they are so worried about, you know, the life that's a death. Yeah, and they got it wrong. And they got it wrong. They have no inkling of maybe I better do a little homework and see if I'm correct with my traditional Christian beliefs. And I think maybe I better check in the Bible and see if my beliefs align with what it says in the Bible. They don't say that, do they? No, they accept their pastor's word. Yeah. Or what crap they are getting in the Bible study. Like what you were saying about the immortal soul Wednesday. Yeah. I was saying where is it in the Bible? Find it. Find any reference to it. But you'll find hundreds of references to resurrections. Well, an immortal soul won't have to be resurrected, does it? No, if you have an immortal soul and you're flying around hanging out, why would you need to be resurrected back into a body again? Or into spirit. Right, why would you have to be re-resurrected into a spirit? If you're already a spirit that left your body. So it's illogical. No kidding, but that doesn't stop people from believing stuff that ain't in your Bible. There are a lot of these evangelicals are I think all about power and control. And money. They insist on believing something that they cannot prove and something. Oh, don't say you have to have faith. No proof. Yeah, but you have to have faith that's based on what's in the Bible. Correct. Not faith. If you call yourself a Christian. Not faith. If you call yourself a Hindu and you don't have to worry about the Bible. Not faith based on something that you can't back up. You can't back it up. Just like Republicans have no alternative to anything that the Democrats have to offer. There's no alternative. There's no solution. So they are behind nothing. Hot air. Exactly. But that's what they are for. The Tea Party goes to Washington to be the party of no. They don't want any progressive programs. They don't want any growth in the United States government at all. Period. And they want cuts in the social programs. And like that banner that I saved on the newsletter censored Facebook page that William J. Isamon shared about Libertarians. Be careful of Libertarians. They're just a right winger by another name. The columnist Chris Saliza would have Governor Christie commit suicide by putting heads with Sarah Palin. Both are bullheaded and have a talent for sharp retorts. Yeah. Well, Sarah Palin would be good for porn. Older women porn. But Christie would not be good for that. But that's one advantage she has. However, Christie is smart enough to know it's not to his advantage to take her on. No, because he'll lose a lot of votes. He has a big backing throughout the country and wouldn't want to lose it by dumping on her. Well, she is an idiot, but you know. The Tea Party would be annoying. Yeah, well, you want as many votes as you can get, even the stupid asses. And while they might not like his hugging of the president, they'll vote for him at crunch time. Well, he needed Hurricane Sandy help. The writer, however, is not wrong in believing Palin is advocating a third party. The country has gone in a direction of chaotic liberalism and sober people are fearful of it. Have you noticed any liberalism lately? Socialism by Obama? I haven't seen anywhere. I haven't seen any in the mythical US media, American media. There's no liberalism there. I don't see it in Washington. I don't see it in any Democrat that's in office today. I don't see this liberalism. How about Obama's socialism? Maybe Bernie Sanders, who I have to salute. God, I salute Bernie Sanders of Vermont. We love you. But that's about it. Go ahead. No Obama socialism? I haven't seen anything that far to the left. Well, I have seen some. You've given subsidies, grants, tax breaks to the rich and the big corporations. That's socialism. Yeah, but you're giving it to the rich. Socialism is not too crazy about the rich getting richer. No, no, that's a different form. This socialism is coming where the government is providing for you. Well, that's the big corporation. That's socialism. Socialism is like the Robin Hood theory. You're taking from the rich and giving to the poor. Socialism is when the means of production is given to the state, period. It's not going to do with being poor or being rich. But when you take the benefits of the state, the money, et cetera, and you're giving it to the rich, that's socialism. That's not what Karl Marx had in mind. Karl Marx was a communist. So socialism, when you give, when you subsidize the wealthy, that can be considered socialism? Correct. It's a form of socialism. It's a form of socialism. The means of production is owned by the state, by the government. In other words, in a socialist environment, general motors would be owned by the government. But they're helping the top one or 20%. That's a form of socialism. And not helping the masses. That's correct. I thought the masses always benefit in socialism. Only when they take over. Both communism and socialism have the poor people taking over the government. That's the difference. But we have the rich who have taken over the government, and they provide for their own. Only, yeah. But it's still a form of socialism. Because you're giving away our mula, et cetera, to those people who don't deserve it. But it's still socialism. She has shown strength enough outside Washington to gain support from both political sides. But that's in the future. Republican and Democratic leaders have much to fear from her. Because there's a lot of country bumpkins who love Sarah Palin. I'm Sarah Palin the quitter, please. Well, Sarah Palin the quitter, and I'm sure they just love seeing her on her reality show that she used to have with the rifle in her hands, shooting at animals. I'm sure that all the rednecks in the red states just love that. Last Tuesday, I arrived at Honest School in Dumont, New Jersey at 5.15 a.m. and left at 8.30 p.m., working the primary election. They get $200 for the day, by the way. By dinner time, we had a total of 12 voters, apart from the enormous waste and taxpayers' money for this unnecessary election. By the way, that was Booker versus Lonegan. You know, the first state senate, I mean, for Senator. What political party is Lonegan? A Republican! Why, he's a right-winger! And Booker's a Democrat. Yeah! But he's a corporatist. He's a corporatist. Thank you. But that's not where I want to go. Okay, okay, okay. What bothers me most is Governor Christie's lack of leadership. He wanted this election for his convenience and political ambition. Now, I hear from 12 to 25 a million dollars was spent. This is me now, not the letter. On this special election. There's a poltergeist in here. I didn't even touch Billy Jr. And that money could have been used to reinstate a program that we have here, or had here in New Jersey called the Homestead Rebate, which was a property tax rebate money given to the elderly and the disabled. And it was taken away by Governor Christie. This 25 million dollars could have reinstated that program for the elderly and the disabled. But instead, it was spent on a wasteful election because Mr. Christie did not want his name and Booker's name to appear on the same ballot in November. In other words, he knows that Booker, Cory Booker is just that good that he might cause it. He will cause Christie to lose votes because he's too formidable to have on the same ballot. Well, is Cory Booker going to be on the ballot? He's already the senator of the elect. They'll be him, him, and Lonegan. They both won their primaries. Now they will go against each other in November. Yeah, I was going to say that. November is the election. So in other words, when I walk into the booth in November, I'm going to see as an independent, which I am registered, which I cannot vote in the primaries as an independent, you've got to be two party system. I'm going to see all the Democrats lined up, all the Republicans lined up over here, or vice versa. And then I'm going to see whoever independents, whatever independents are running like that guy that's been having advertisements here. Oh, you're really heard from an advertisement for an independent? No, what is that man? See? What's that man I see on TV all the time? Lately. He's not Barbara Bono, obviously. He's not Cory Booker, and he's not Christie, and he's running for governor, but I think he's running as an independent. In New Jersey? Yeah, yeah. I have no idea. Roth? Something? No. I have no idea. I've got to write his name down. He makes a lot of sense, but he's... What does he say? Well, he goes into economic detail on what he would do if he was governor. You know, he's... Well, what do we need to do? There's a lot of things we need to do. Well, the number one thing I would do is I would shift the tax burden to the rich. Oh, my God! Number two, and number two, I would bring back all the social programs to help the little guy and the po-folk. Oh, you're a communist, dude. That's what I would do. And I'd make the rich pay for it. You're the communist, man. They're the job creators. You can't do that. They create jobs in their minds and their dreams. They create jobs in Bangladesh. They're not lying. Bangladesh and China. No, they're not lying. They just don't create them in the United States. Exactly. Exactly. You got it, buddy. And when they talk about... When they talk about jobs that are in the United States, you know damn well that in this day and age even a married couple cannot make ends meet. On two jobs. With two minimum wage hamburgers flipping jobs. A regular one. $10 an hour. $12 an hour. Yeah, like McDonald's as a company, as a whole makes so much money. They are actually the 90th largest economic nation. They are equal to the being the 90th economic nation in the world. This is a company. In the old days companies were not allowed to grow that large to get that much money because what happens is now they go and they take the money and they invest it in other things rather than their business. Yeah. They become like a railroad becomes an insurance company. Yeah. Like is this kind of like the douchebag faced Bill Gates getting involved with vaccines Well that's so you can have a legacy. International. What a nice guy. Pushing vaccines on poor children worldwide. It's like all the rich J.P. Morgan leaves when they leave behind their Rockefeller center the Frick Art Museum that's what that shit is. Yeah, he's a legacy. I'm such a good guy. See I was a nice guy. I didn't pay my workers right I want to help but look I'm a nice guy. I gave you an art museum and a library. Well he's like he's kind of like like a middleman he kind of like stole a lot a great deal without giving credit to the people that actually invented anything. That new movie is out job. Steve Jobs. I wonder if they have any of that crap in there. Yeah Steve Jobs was no angel when it came to outsourcing and cheap labor. He was I'm sure he was very much involved with Foxconn in China but anyway when you're done with this let's just call it a day. Well go ahead because I'm done with it. So I don't want to try another one here. Alright thank you for joining us people for this week's progressive discussions. How enlightening. The next progressive discussions will actually be the Labor Day weekend progressive discussions. Providing the creek don't rise. Oh we're supposed to get a lot of rain? No not. We don't need it. We're supposed to be drying clear and drying. It's somewhat cooler. But anyway thank you. That'll be nice. I can't argue with dry whether that is just perfect temperature. Can't beat that. Love it. My electric bill here too. Oh you and your electric bill my god it's just I can't stand humidity. This guy I can't stand $105. Oh for God's sakes come on come on. I've got better things to do. Alright say so long to these people. So long people. Come on. Save my move. No for God's sakes. What do you like? Yes. You pinch a penny so hard both heads and tails are on the same side. No but I don't like giving it to PSC and G. Oh they're crooks. They're crooks. And I'm doing the same thing of supporting the rich.