 Is it live? I think so. You clear my throat. It's the morning for me. Well, I've been up for a while, so it's not too early in the morning. Welcome to the Saturday Q&A. And when I said, what did I put in the title? Server updates, I meant in a very literal sense. So we're gonna reboot this server now because I just patched it. We're gonna patch some servers while I'm answering your questions because that's something I need to do today. You know, Saturday I shut some services down so we can watch this reboot. And see this, I gotta wait for it to reboot. Why not do some Q&A live stream stuff, right? That seems like a fun thing to do. It's funny, just before I started the live stream, I inhaled a little bit of my coffee. But we're rebooting one of my Dell servers. Very specifically, this server is the master server for my pool, for my main server. So it's gonna be a minute for it to restarts and gets everything up and running all the services running on it. But there was a few patches for XTP and G. So, you know, gotta load them. They weren't some, I mean, I never delay the patches. I'll load them absolutely immediately if there's some pending doom of security problem that's with it. But when there's not, let's just load them in a day or two. And when I don't have any, you know, direct threats from it, there's a couple patches that are for some basics that abate, you know, some basic issues that were coming up inside of it, but nothing too horrible. You guys can watch the Dell boot screen go by. Many of you have watched this because you're like, this is the problem with enterprise servers. They take long to boot. And then you realize they take long to boot compared to what? Compared to HP? No, they're actually quite fast compared to HP. So, it is always the fun of doing this though. The patching we have to do, but the other thing I'll be talking about is like the 100 days of HomeLab. This, oh, which Dell is it? This is an old R720 getting close to requirement. So, no, this is not VNC. This is Dell iDRAC I'm logged into. So, yeah, the Dell iDRAC system makes your life way easier. For doing this, can I switch windows? Well, kind of, here, we'll just jump over to the Dell iDRAC screen. So, all right, this part's boring. It's just gonna boot up. I hope, I hope it's just gonna boot up. That's the goal. This is just gonna boot up. And we're not gonna have problems, right? Right? This is what the Dell iDRAC screen looks like. So, you just click launch. This is the virtual console that's a HTML5 console that's in there. So, we can see whatever things are going on with it. I feel confident one of the power supplies is unplugged because reasons, but oh, it actually says it's right. Okay, they're both plugged in, I guess. I don't see an error anymore. We were moving things around and we didn't have enough plugs for some stuff we were doing. That's the nice thing about having your own power supplies. You just kind of unplug them. You don't have to leave them plugged in. You're like, eh, no big deal. But, nonetheless, you can see it's using about two, we should probably zoom this in, 238 watts of power. Rebooting took a little bit. So, it actually, idle's here about it there. So, it's using a little more because it's booting up. But, yeah. R720's not bad, it's just a little dated for what we need for some of our workloads. But, I don't know what I'll do. I'll probably sell the system for cheap to someone or I don't know, maybe do. I don't even figure out what I'm going to do with it when I'm done, because we were putting some new servers in at my office. I had posted about some of the R740 stuff we got. So, yeah. Big couple of generation differences. But, it's actually still a reasonably good and powerful server with, you know, an overall very good life left in, I guess you could say. So, it's not bad. Dual 40 gig network cards are cheaper than 10 gig nerds. I don't know why. Not sure. Yeah, it all depends on your use case. The other problem is it's so cheap to build multi-core systems. It's kind of a decision tree you have to make of, you know, power consumption and things like that. Cause you can build rising systems that are fast, effective at running your workloads, you know, for home lab stuff and they, you know, they're quieter too. You can put really quiet fans in them and that's the problem with this. If you don't have a place to put it. For those of you that have a place to put it, have a basement or something like that, if you're doing it for a home lab or, you know, have an office with a server rack and a server room in it, they're fine. So, yeah. 12th just cheap on RAM DDR4 prices. I wouldn't be able to do 120 gig. That's a big thing about it. We were looking at that cause you know we have a rising system as well in our stack and yeah, that's a challenge of, you know, the cost to get that working. So, is it still waiting to connect? There we go. Now it's happy. It booted, it's connected. I can close all these windows cause we gotta boot the other system up. So, is this one booted? No, not yet. Gotta wait and for I can switch. So, yeah, we're doing it live. That's for sure. I'm just doing, I'm just rebooting servers. I have one more to reboot so you guys can watch the process on that one. I thought they'd both be done before the live stream but they're not. So, here we are cause I was doing other things and my wife told me I gotta cut the grass. I said I'm live streaming. That gets me out of hitting the grass. Cause, you know, gotta play with all the things. So, let's see, I'm waiting for one more server to boot. As soon as it boots, I'll swap screens so I can start the next process of updates cause we have a few servers. That way we can, I mean, I don't, I could migrate them live between and never shut down any of my services. It's too much trouble. It doesn't take long for these updates to occur. It's all of about, I don't know, five or six minutes. So, yeah. I broke way in one of my 6100, way in two is fine. That is weird. That's not a normal problem. I haven't seen, I mean, I'm not seeing that it's zero but it's rare you have network ports go bad but we have seen it. It has occurred. What's the point of mesh option when you're using Ethernet backhaul on the U6LRs? Don't use mesh. If you're using Ethernet for the backhaul, you can ignore mesh all together. I really don't recommend people meshing things together. Everyone thinks they have to, that they think mesh and roaming because bad marketing companies have put this in people's heads that those are the same things but they're not at all. So, yeah. It's a, you don't really need it unless you're doing some wireless on there. This is a good point. I'm finding it's actually cheaper to buy a complete system with a 760 gigs RAM. Pull the RAM, 64 gig in resale to put the 760 in your new system. Yeah, if you go in, I think we can pull up, I have Gopher and you slide a little memory thing up and let's say, we'll go crazy with 256 here or however you want to do it. But you can see there's Dell servers here and let's look for buy it nows. There we go. But that much RAM and obviously that's a big deal. You can use, this is labgopher.com for those you're not familiar with it but you can start by memory and find some of these deals on servers. Some of these Dell, here's an R720 for $600. 2.9 gigahertz, 256 gigs of RAM. So yeah, that makes a big difference because a lot of times it's not always that you need a ton of processing power to get your workload done but you need enough memory to run all the different services, especially if you have a lot of different services or you just wanna play with a lot of different virtual machines. You say, I need to spin up 50 VMs because I wanna understand how to do some clustering. Okay, great. I wanna build a large scale Kubernetes cluster and I need a lot of stuff to do it so I can really make sure that my code works at scale, et cetera, et cetera. And now you're going, okay, how much RAM do I need? Well, each VM needs X RAM. Well, I want 50 VMs. Oh, okay, that's a lot of RAM. So you can get these servers for cheap with that. It's amazing what you can buy that's a couple, like a little bit older of a server but you can still have it's an absolute crazy amount of memory in it. So ever played with an R910, my last job used 11th gen, 64 DDR, three RAM slots currently at 25 gigahertz, takes dirt cheap. I think that might be the 10 series might be a little bit too old. The 20 series is getting there. The 30 series is becoming really affordable. If you go to like the R30s sort of way to sort specifically or do you, I think there's a keyword thing you can hear. Filter rows, R630, put it 128 gigahertz more of them in there but these R630s, you're talking a couple of generations newer they're gonna be more power efficient and you can still get these under $1,000 with 128 gigs of RAM. So definitely good to run some lab workloads and do a lot of learning on. I've been looking for the unified documentation you mentioned in some early videos. I try to link to all them. I've never looked for anything. Labgopher allegedly, let me go to the top here. Yeah, they have CA.Labgopher.com. So if you're Canadian, there you go. Let's post a link to it. If you go to labgopher.com, they have links for different regions but I try to link to all the documentation whenever I reference it. Like, you know, my large deploy, unify stuff, there's a whole, it's not hard to find. If you go to like large deploy, unify, you land in their page for their documentation to how to set up larger deployments and some of the changes on there. So yeah, not, I don't find it too hard to do but that's just me. Let's see if I can pivot over to the next servers that I have to update. Yay. All right, we need to filter for backups. No, not power state, running, hosts, specifically, R630. So here's all the things running right now in my R630 that I have to stop from running because I don't stop these, I can't do the updates. So we're gonna roll the pool updates. So R630, we just do a quick, I guess I could share that. I don't even know if anyone cares. You just do some, oh look, there we go. Yes, we're gonna occasionally get spammers. That's one of those things. Yeah, this is, you know, this is gonna vary by region but even running it for you, 10 year old HPE server ends up being $40 a month more on my utility bill but replaces $150 in cloud services. Yeah, yep, yep, yep, for sure. Epic servers, please talk. Epic's awesome, you know, Wendell's done some great videos on it. I wish they were more affordable. The problem is they're just not end of life yet. They haven't been in the field long enough and I think their life is probably gonna be a little bit longer than some of the other ones because they're really amazingly power efficient and process intensive. Like they just do a great job overall. I think, you know, AMD's really knocking out of the park out of that. Granted, it's not easy. I think I think I was listening to an interview maybe a year ago or two years ago from one of the people from AMD on one of the enterprise server podcasts. But it was funny you talked to them just, the person said, oh man, you guys have 1% of the markets here now. And he goes, 1% might be generous for how much, how many AMD's are deployed in the server market like in data center market specifically. But yeah, I got no problem with Epic. I think they're a great choice. We've been debating about building one. The problem we kind of have, like if we go Epic, if you mix processors, I can't just live migrate them like for a lot of our lab stuff. So it's like if we go Epic, we need to go Epic all the way, but it's substantially more expensive. Yeah, first gen Epic is getting cheaper. That is true. So it is definitely getting a lot cheaper to do. I'm gonna finish updating the server. I got distracted by all of you. So server updates are loaded and all right. Now we need to stop the services. So this is Zenarkasha, this little incantation up here, power running container and it has the UUID of the specific host means I have to shut all these down in order to reboot. So we just go here and we hit stop because these are all running on this. So stop running all of you, power down. As soon as he's powered down, I'll reboot that server. We're doing it live. Consuming to watch the last thing stopping. Distracted by all of you dragging the live stream out so I can avoid cutting the grass. That pretty much that. Gray log. Gray log. It takes a long time to get gray log to stop because gray log is busy all the time. There we go. It's finally stopping. There we go. Finally stopped. Here, here. Nothing running. We reboot the server. But before we reboot because you got to make sure you, I like to watch it reboot and all of you do too, right? Let's log into the R630 iDRAC. We'll pull up the windows so we can watch it go through its process while we talk about whatever my Q and A sessions. I wish they had, you know, they had an option before. Can I just do this? Here we go. I'll just share the iDRAC. Oh, it logged me out because I opened up a new window. Figures. Silly security. Logging me in and out of things. Gray log is my, you know, the more you feed gray log, the more you love gray log. That's for sure. Is Zen Orchestra free? If you compile it yourself, Zen Orchestra is indeed free. So that's, if I have a video on compiling it, this is like just such a common question. And I made it the first video is like, here's how to compile Zen Orchestra free. And it just is like everyone's, but it's not free because I have to compile it. And I'm like, giving the code away for free doesn't mean you get a free built server. I don't know how else to articulate that, but it's a really, really common question every single time, every single time people ask about Zen Orchestra. There we go. Now we can watch a reboot. But yeah, I have a video on it. You can search my channel about how to compile Zen Orchestra. I also have and I'll share it real quick. My Lawrence Dot Technology channel, which I need to do some updates on, but it's still relevant. There's the things on here so good. Is Zen maintained by Citrix? Not anymore. Citrix doesn't do as much with Zen like they used to. Zen is an open source project. Zen is a hypervisor. Zen is the most widely used hypervisor for those of you that wanna be pedantic in details as if that matters. Zen is part of the Linux Foundation and XCPNG is the fork of Zen, not fork, distribution of Zen that incorporates Zen that I use. Incorporates is the best way to describe that. I just did a video detailing how all of that works. What is that video titled? That video is titled here. I'm gonna share it here. Here's the video I did exactly covering all those details. The video title is this, because there's so many words in here. XCPNG versus Zen versus Zen server versus KVM versus Proxmox. So whole video breaking all that down. So yeah, there's a lot to it. I don't use chasm. It looks neat, I don't have a use case for it. Like it's not something I need to do. So we can, I'll wait till this boots and I'll pull up and look at chasm. I mean, it's novel. But I don't think it's fully open source. It's just container streaming. I use X to go for streaming. So in, chasm just wraps some cool things in that, but I'm not big on like things that are proprietary. That's my problem. I mean, is it fully open source or is it partially open source? I wasn't clear as I noticed they have pricing on there. Like, can you build your own chasm server? That's the, yes, that's where the challenge comes in. Where's the big gulp? Well, the big gulps never fill the coffee. That's always full of water. My coffee cup's only this big, so. But the, you're right, when I have the larger cup, it's, that's definitely, it's just got water in it. There's a community edition of chasm I've seen, but it's hosted on their stuff. So it's, and here's the problem as people have pointed out before. And cool, that's, all right, that's booted back up. So we'll share the screen on chasm. And this is my problem when people ask me about anything that's proprietary. They're like, but they have a free version. And I'm like, well, here's the problem. It's free now. They get a bunch of users and they're like, hey, that free version was unsustainable. Here's our keep incremental up fee on there. So that's, oh yeah. Yeah, I mean, I have X to go. That's how, and I've done videos on it because it's stupidly easy to set up and configure. So X to go is still my way to publish applications if I need to do that. Not something I do very often. So yeah. But we really need to top this off of be a live cam on the back of the server or a chest on a boot stop. Yeah. Load your WireGuard video, have it working. Try and set up so I can manage my Proxmox from anywhere. Cool. No, WireGuard's great. I use WireGuard on my phone. It's a great service. Everything about WireGuard makes me happy. Pretty much fine. It doesn't have a user manager, but that's not necessarily a big deal for everybody's use case. All right. Now to start all of our production VMs. So we filter for production and halted. I don't need this one yet. Whoops. So we'll uncheck this. This is not deployed yet. Yeah, that's all the stuff that needs to be started. Are you sure you want to start nine VMs? Of course I'm sure I want to start nine VMs. They're mine. Please do a video comparing Unraid. No, I'm not going to because there's no point in doing it. First, it's been done. Second, it's been done a lot. Third, Unraid is not for performance. It's something great that makes people in the homelab happy who have a lot of things and want it easy to run and it's got a use case for all of that. It is not performance oriented. I don't think they're going to do anything for it. It's not based on ZFS. I don't have an interest in running it. There's not a use case I have for it. But good news, there's plenty of people who do and they do videos on it. So I don't need to really... It's not worth it for me sometimes to learn a product that I don't ever plan on using or deploying. Especially when it's like, it's only something I think is so cool that other people should be using it and there's no other humans making videos on it. There's a bunch of people making videos on it. So I'm running a Windows 10 VM on XBG which tools use Citrix tools auto update Windows so it seems easier way to go. Yes, that is exactly the way we go is using those tools. There's no doubt about that. I'll actually comment on something because people think this is weird or annoying. I don't know what the right word for it is. But one of the problems you run into and we're going to go over here to the wiki is I don't want anyone ever to have the ability to wander off with one of these VMs. Actually, I'm waiting for the screen to load because it's pulling data that's not here yet. When we set these things up, one of the things that's important is we put passwords on a lot of the boot screens. People like, but doesn't that make rebooting harder? Sure, but it also makes it inconvenient but it's losing your data. If somewhere already copy one of these VMs is really inconvenient. So that's one of the reasons we do this. So I got to log into each of these systems and type a password in. People asked me about that once while and it's, yeah, still how we do things. Have you used Starwind vSAM before? I have not and don't really have. I think Wendell's talked about it. I haven't used it. I don't really, yeah. Have you seen Windows Forbidden Router? I love that he called it the Forbidden Router. Yes, I seen it. Yes, he's using XCPNG. Yo, this one will boot now. Oh, where's the other one here? Did I type the password right? I did. Success. Ah, those details, those pesky details. Make cable management inside and outside of racks faster repairing. There's no fast way to repair it. That's unfortunate. So, yeah, that's not, there's no easy way to fix them. Make it all easy to manage. Make it all labeled well so you can find it but it's still a lot to get it out of a rack. And any recommendations or remote PC compliance was using TeamViewer until they flagged my account for corporate use, even though I'm a homelab that I moved to any desk and I'm not that happy with it. I really don't know. I don't know. We pay for commercial products in that market. So, I don't really know what would be good for a homelab. There's a few open source projects but I haven't used them so I can't truly endorse them. I do know some people liked this product though. What was it called? But it requires, it's our port. So, our port's a free and open source one but all's our port does is get you the connections for remote login. Then you have to do other things like have RDP enabled. So, I'll leave a link to this. I haven't used it. There's some videos you can find on it. Maybe that'll help you in that. Cross fingers. As the Ryzen 5000 series become cheaper and cheaper building a 5950. So, cheapism is a good homelab server. Yeah, I think so. I would actually agree with that. That, you know, the building with Ryzen actually I'm gonna switch over to another screen so I can show you the Ryzen we built. We have a Ryzen system in our testing for a while. We don't have that much RAM in it but we've been running some workloads on it. It's been impressive. There we go, move over to this screen. So, this is our Ryzen server and it's just running a few Windows VMs right now but it's a Ryzen 5600G because we had one not because it's the best processor probably because it was on sale or it was laying around at my office. I don't know why my staff built it. I know my staff built it but I think the Ryzen stuff, I mean it works great. Like I'm not unhappy with this system. It's actually surprisingly fast. It's faster than some of the other ones on there. So, yeah. Do you have Synology Serial Station running on the same VLAN as your cameras? Yes. Well, yes, no. I have a separate VLAN, a separate subnet for my cameras. Synologies, the one I have has four network interfaces. One of those network interfaces is tied to the same subnet as the cameras because you don't want to route the camera traffic. You want it on the same subnet. That's it. You just take the one and you lock it all down. That particular LAN is locked down. It doesn't have internet because it doesn't need internet and it is where the cameras live. It is where one leg of the Synology lives. So, that's the ideal way to set that up. And I'm using, see my, my wife's supposed to be working near too and she's not. But I'm using the Synology surveillance station at home. It works great. This is outside of my house right now. So, yeah, it's a great platform. I've messed Sensual is another one I've heard of. I've never used it, but a lot of people seem to like it. Python, I'm not a Python programmer. Jay from LearnLinux TV has a whole series on Python. The reason for you to fly it because your PC is probably on AD. You need a commercial license at that point. Yeah. Well, it's on sale. Yeah. That is, makes most things work like that. I was running XPG previously in a new VM. Had the same actions or something in the ConfigureMest. You probably restored it or something. I don't know why every new VM. I've never been able. You're not the first person I've seen post it, but I've never found the solution. Try posting in your forms on it because I don't have a problem having it anytime I make a new virtual machine. It's always created a new MAC address here. This has never been an issue when you add an interface. Like I auto-generated if empty and it's always auto-generated for me. I've seen people ask that question. I don't know what circumstances lead you to that problem because I don't know, but there's probably a forum post in their forums that might help for understanding that. Camel traffic on VLANs too, yeah. Wire guard is great. Only pain in the butt is that Windows installation having login admins set up as user elevation will not work. Huh. Your wife is streaming for a new YouTube channel. She said, too, can play at the streaming game and not do a yard work. Possibly. Ryzen concurrency in hardware. We do not have a pair of Ryzens. Matter of fact, interestingly, we have our lab pool, which has... Here's the R630 and here's the Ryzen. Now, you can have these coexisting in the pool. So if we go over here and here's my Fronix, let me, is this one on lab? Yeah, this is in the lab network. So we'll go ahead and stop it. And when you have them in mixed environments, I can start on either server. So I can start it on this server. I can start it on here. So let's put it up on the server right here. And by the way, it's nice and fast when you boot it up on here. It's actually so fast, we're trying to sort out exactly what the differences are. And we need to do some more testing because I'm not publishing the results because they're skewed and we're not sure how we're skewing them. But the Ryzen is outperforming the Dell server. And it shouldn't be at the level it is. The stats don't make any sense to us. More testing before it all gets released because I'm working on a video for it because we've been scratching our head over how fast these Ryzens are. But by the way, kind of side note, I did, I asked Wendell what he thought of it. And he says, because he was building the forbidden router, he's like, yeah, it's really, really fast. I was like, he's gonna do some testing too, he said. So, recommendation, play low fly. You know, I would, except for the copyright flags, I had to get constantly. I've gotten to where I don't put any music. I had music that was free. I used a clip of in an old video four years later, someone bought the rights to it and flagged my video for a copyright infringement. I had to deal with it. I said, no more music because every time you put music in, it drives me nuts that they do that. But there is a chance I can put it in because there is a, I don't know if anyone owns this right here. I'll risk it in this video. But has any of you heard of this? Ambicular? It just is sequentially generated. I don't know if this comes through at all in there, but you can do this. It's, I'll drop the website right here for anyone who wants some low-fi hip hop vibes. But I don't know, maybe I could put some in in the background. It's a little tricky. I actually believe a way better solution became pre-installed web UI. Yes, no, they are working on XO Lite. So XO Lite's going to be the built-in one. That's coming within, I don't know when, but soon. The XO Lite will be, I'm excited when they finally finish it. It's not finished yet. That'll be built in and that'll be like a baked-in solution so you don't have to load in the orchestra. It works now, but it's in very, it's in early beta. We'll just say that. Would you recommend getting into VMware virtualization, mainly for the network storage? Use VMware because if you want to get out into the market, you're going to find a lot of VMware. It's a popular product. I don't tell people not to learn it. Do I want to use it? No, but use whatever. VMware's popular. It's got a whole certification program if you want to get certified in it. Honestly, once you start understanding virtualization, whether it's VMware, Proxmox, XCPNG, Hyper, well, Hyper-V's its own animal. But as you learn these, you get a better understanding of how virtualization works because they all work on a similar set of principles, the differences, and the nuances of how they're implemented. So that's the big difference there. What's good for an R610, I would say I like XCPNG. Possible more backup integrations are available? Well, sure, but I also like the fact that I can not rely on third-party backups because the backup integration is completely built into XCPNG. So I have no third-party reliance for my XCPNG servers for backups. It's just not necessary. I thought YouTube had a library to pull from creators. They do, and it's terrible that it's not great at all. So I just finished watching our XCPNG HA video after the first hypervisor fails, the recovery kicks in, are all the VMs using the same MAC address. Yeah, it doesn't matter what server they're on, the MAC address is the same no matter the server. The MAC address is tied to the VM, not the server. So in my example right here, the Pheronix server. So here's the network. It's 192.1683.195. There's the MAC address. So it ends in C0CB. So if we stop, it's running right now. Actually, let's do this. So if we, oh, yes. So currently it has got that IP address and we'll scroll down a little bit here. You can see it's on a Ryzen. So here it is, Ubuntu 2004 AMD Ryzen 5. So, you know, it's everything we said, and now we'll go back over to it and we'll stop it. And this is the same as HA, stop, start on another server, it doesn't matter. It's in the same resource pool. Then we're gonna go to start on and we're gonna start it on the 630 this time. So we go ahead and go here, but you'll see the MAC address first is the same. So if it's this, that isn't gonna change any and it's gonna get the same IP address even though it's ends up running somewhere else. So as it boots, takes a second to think. Well, it just blacks out for a minute on the screen. It's a Ubuntu 2204 does that or I don't know what version Ubuntu I'm running. Whatever version Ubuntu I'm running does this. Now, when we see it starting up on this one in a second, we'll get a MAC address. Well, we'll do it through here. And then we will neofetch. Hey, look, it now is running on an Intel Xeon if you can see that down here. So, but the MAC address and the IP address and all that haven't changed. Doesn't matter when it starts up on a new one. It'll take a second, it'll show the IP records. But yeah, nothing really changed there. I hang out on TechnoTim's Discord. He's a homeland idea. Such potential become a huge. It was awesome seeing all of you. Yeah, I loved it. TechnoTim's awesome. Hey, I have a Procmas cluster with Dell servers. A repurposed Ryzen 3, no problems, all. Ryzen has been solid as the Dell's. Hey, thank you very much, Charlie, for the comment and the donation. But yeah, Ryzen's been solid. I've been really happy with them. I wanna build more Ryzen systems. I wanna build an Epic system as well. Let's talk about it. What remotely accessible storage software? I don't know what that means. Next Cloud? I don't understand your question. I recommend Next Cloud. I like it, it's a good thing. I don't really use it, but it works. When installing the XUG, can you install as an Ultra on it too, or it has to be separate? No, it has to be separate. It's a separate VM. When they have XO Lite, XO Lite will be part of it, but X that the Xen Orc is just separate as a virtual machine. Do you have a good way of removing Windows guest tools? The uninstalled doesn't do it? No, I always thought the uninstalled worked. They're open VM tools, so you use the same. Open VM tools, I don't, what is open VM? You talk about this, like there's then guest utilities are a thing. Those are just part of the repositories. We were gonna 100 days of home lab as I'm moving to my office, basement, my home, and a current office has no air. Ooh, yeah. Gonna use your channel to make my way into a career in IT. That is awesome to hear. I love hearing that, definitely. It's great for this. I have a one gig Verizon and looking to buy a router, run PSS, replace 5G, recommendations. The 4100 is pretty reasonable. The 6100 is pretty awesome. It kind of comes on a budget. I like those, those are definitely, those are the NetGate offerings. You get good support from NetGate. You get a reliable device that's well made and they work. The problem once you start going to one gig routing is you need something that can handle the one gig. So that's one of the reasons I'd recommend probably getting something a little bit nicer like that. Do you have a video converting? Just backup, point A, export. You can import though in XCPNG. Where's it here? So if we go to import, drag and drop your OVA or XVA file. So convert things to, convert things to OVA, export them and import them. Have you used Open Zen Manager? I wanna find a stable service from Linux. I don't have any, I like Zen Orchestra. It does everything I need. So I use Zen Orchestra. So that's my solution to Zen Orchestra. I don't plan on using anything else. Zen Orchestra was what worked for me. Vert Manager versus VMware versus VirtualBox, which is good. The one you configure the most secure, the one you isolate the best is the best one to use for security. I don't know, I'm not sure which one would be better over other ones. How do you use the HomeLab currently working towards my goal of running OpenStack at home? You're in luck. Me and Jay are going to do a, the HomeLab show about OpenStack. So we're excited to get people involved in that. I don't use it, Jay does. So that's why Jay's more gonna be the one doing it. Is Xabix better than Isigna too? Well, I use Xabix and I don't use the other one. So my answer is going to be yes, but I don't have any way, I don't have any comparison and I don't plan on changing from Xabix to go look at another one. It's not on my to-do list. And according to Mozilla, Isigna, I think I'm saying it right, is much better because he works for the company behind it. He may have a bias, but he may be right. I don't know. What's your recommendation for highly distributed storage, Gluster or Ceph? My recommendation is whatever you can support. They both can achieve the goal, but if I took people who know Ceph and told them they have to use Gluster, they're gonna be mad and vice versa. It comes down to you have to build solutions you can support. So it's not a manner of what I recommend. It's about who's going to do the support. By the way, I'm not the guy who supports Gluster or Ceph. That is not my day job. So like we work with 45 drives. They like Ceph for most of their projects. So if we were selling a 45 drive solution with Ceph and support contract with 45 drives in a team, then we would probably go with Ceph. If we were working with IAC systems, which we are partnered with as well, and we were pushing a true NAS scale storage system and wanted to integrate Gluster because that's what scale is going in the back end. Then you would recommend that. So it comes down to the support of it, not just which one to choose. OpenStack is complex, yes, for sure. Did you patch Foleno? Well, I didn't, but my staff did. So yes, indirect yes. I mean, it got patched. I do not involve myself in the day-to-day patching of all the things for clients. So what are the advantages and disadvantages in Arkasha versus Proxmox? You're in luck. I have a video where I rant about that, and then I have a second follow-up video where I rant more about that. So those videos have a titled of XCPNG versus Proxmox and then Zen versus Proxmox versus XCPNG versus Zen server versus KVM. So I've got two videos posted in the last week that you can find on my channel where I go in detail. Oh, what are you using? Your personal storage servers? We use true NAS. I don't have any need for the complexities to come with stuff. It's just not needed. So we have several servers that replicate to each other and we run true NAS on them. So here's our servers. This is our main one and everything else kind of spiders off of this, but this is our main server. It's got a lot of disks in it. It's got about 27 disks and I think one spare. 27 drives and one spare. These are a bunch of 14 terabyte drives to our pool size. What do we have here? 200, we still, we only recently got this. So we still have about 240 terabytes free of storage. I've seen NetMaker, looks novel, haven't used it. It's not really on high on my priority list. Any other server in channel that XCPNG not allow you to start VMs, they go into unpause like green state. That's weird. I've seen someone arguing up here for stuff is better. Someone arguing down here for Gluster is better. Gluster is simple and easy way to recur, pause data set and short Gluster is nfs.storage. Stuff is as complicated solution that scales way better than Gluster. But there's Gluster people who will probably still go and tell you they can do what stuff can do. I don't know. People have different ways of accomplishing things and really back in the beginning, what can you support? Snapshot lifetime isn't being respected. Go over here and look. We have snapshot tasks running right here. So, and we'll look at them. So here's my, what's a good one? Hyper backup. We'll look at how the hyper backups are working. Actually, let's look too. How long are you supposed to be kept for? Two weeks. So if it's working properly, which is nothing special. This is just your standard snapshot. Keep it for two weeks. Pretty simple. I have videos on snapshots, by the way. So I'm just going over what it looks like. So there's snapshots. Then we're gonna go over to storage, snapshots. See if they're being respected. I don't know what's today's date. 6-4 is the oldest, 6-18 is the newest. So yeah, I'm gonna say they're being respected as I'm not in here doing this every day. It's doing it itself. So I have two weeks of snapshots. You can see the snapshot references. So I was talking about three terabytes of data. It looks like each time there's only about, yeah, just under a hundred megabytes of change from the sequential backups that go on there. We'll start here, see where I left off. TrueNAS Core is pretty much all of our systems. We don't have any TrueNAS scale systems in production. CASA OS, nope. TrueNAS is EFS, correct? Bitwarden is my password manager of choice. We've been using it for a few years now. We really like Bitwarden. We're always experimenting with MikroTik. That's, it's mixed though. I'm not the, I don't hate them, but they're confusing sometimes. You can also restart the tool stack in XCPNG. Sometimes that fixes things. Has you ever been a victim of CyroTik all the time? How do we handle it? It depends on the attack. Unwinding ransomware is just one of those things. Has any of our clients that we actively protect, they've had plenty of attacks all the time. It's not really, you go through your playbook of these are the things you need to do. Isolate the machines, test this, test that, understand where the attack came from. Did it get any further? Did it infect anything more than one laptop? Did they try to do any lateral movement? We use Sentinel-1 for those wondering. I've talked about Sentinel-1. I've got a demo of it you can find on my channel. So this is me progressing. Didn't even start the 100 days of home lab yet. Procrastinating is easy. Thank you very much for your answer. I look at it as a rush for an approximate seven following you since you're in a half year to best. Thank you very much, much appreciated. You participate on recovery of ransomware attack. Oh yeah. Yeah, that's more than once. Because when people are not manager, they don't have their own ITA department. They're in emergency mode. They know they've been attacked, so they start calling people. I've gotten the call more than once. No security, no nothing, unpatched servers. They get taken over by ransomware and we'll come in and do what we can. First question I have for them, do you have an insurance policy? Have you called them? And if that answer is I haven't called my insurance and I don't, you know, or we do have a policy I haven't called them yet. I'm like, we call them because the insurance company will frequently pick who's gonna do the remediation. And if they don't pick, hey, call me. So I changed snapshot where it's causing the issue. I have a custom name date, it looks like. Oh yeah, don't, if you mess with the names, you can have problems. I always leave the names at auto. Is security, I'm just telling you to do this. Yes. When would you offer a 2U server over a 1U? When I can get a deal on it. Do you know, do you hold packages? No, no, if they're absolutely sure the next version is safe. Do you hold packages of known critical packages? I don't understand that question. We patch as soon as possible. Unfortunately, that breaks things sometimes. Yeah, there is a couple of micro tick channels out there. So yes, I'm friends with Techno Tim. He's super cool. Does anyone know in vCenter on the host and the cluster page how to get real usage memory instead of showing the total amount of memory and guess? I'm not much of a vCenter person. Can't update the firmware, is there a way to change it on maybe? I don't know anything about updating firmware and QNAPs. I never use QNAPs. So how do I think of that type of call? Too often. I'd say maybe once a week. Maybe, it's not terrible. Second question, do you have backups? Yeah, the answer to that is almost a given that they don't. They don't have it. There is, if your VM gets stuck starting in state XP, restart that tool stack that might crash into VMs issued due to VMs being stuck in a crash state. Actually, no, let me show you real quick, because we'll do it live, because that's what we're doing here. So let's go over to one of these hosts. So here is our lab Ryzen system. Actually, let's go ahead and restart the tool stack. So we see we have a Windows machine running on here, and we'll go and do the restart tool stack. This Windows, which is Kyle's lab machine, is still running fine on the server that we restarted the tool stack on. You can do this tool stack restart. You can't manage the server during that moment. It'll gap out in terms of being able to be managed. And, but that's it. The, there, tool stack restarted. You can do that and it sometimes fixes when things get stuck. You can leave your VMs running while you're doing it. It doesn't hurt anything. What are the situations made you use? What were the situations? We actually tried Zen Orchestra. Quince only we had a client that had it. We inherited a client that I think, yeah, I think it was a client that had it years ago when it was Citrix before like five years ago. And we just fell in love with it going, wow, this is really great way to manage virtual machines. And then we started working, you know, doing videos on it. And then I met Oliver and the team at Vates. I became friendly with them. And well, it just talked to them online, I should say. And just, I really love their community engagement and we couldn't believe how great the system was for managing virtual machines. So hold patch, I don't understand the question. Currently no, because it's too much work, maybe sometime in the future, but application white listing, everyone wants to tell me it's easy. Anyone I talk to that I respect in the security world tells me what a headache it is in their business to actually use. So, I mean, known working versions of critical systems work packages, I still don't know what you are asking at all. We patches, patches come out. I can't make it any simpler than that. I don't think the ingenious equipment hasn't died. So I wanted to get it done. I mean, I've been busy doing other things. I wanted to get the review done sooner with the ingenious stuff, but I haven't any problems with it. It's been kind of uneventful, but I think that's what people want. They want an uneventful usage of their switch. So it's being tested and the PoE's being tested for quite a while now. Mark here's not a believer. He likes proxmoxes. He finds it much more usage solid and simple than Zen Orchestra. Whatever, I disagree. So, it comes down though. I mean, for the HomeLab, Mark's probably right in a HomeLab environment. When you have a client that has 2,000 virtual machines to manage, there's a different perspective you may have on it. Because even us, we don't have that many. We don't have 2,000. We're getting more all the time. We do have 53 virtual machines to manage. And the more virtual machines you get to manage, the dashboard for something like Zen Orchestra starts making a lot of sense. That's my use case for it, is managing things at scale. We have a client that manages one Zen Orchestra across several data centers at geographically different locations. So when you build these large scale out systems like that, there, it's a big difference compared to, compared to doing it, you know, on just one machine. So the scale out nature of it and being able to manage things at larger scale, I think Zen Orchestra is better at. But yeah, you're probably right about Proxmox being better for individual. I think they're both solid in terms of that. So they're both just good in terms of stability. Whether or not you like the interface as an opinion and a subjective, not objective statement. Objective statement, they're both reliable and stable, subjective statement. I don't think the interface is good on one or the other. I have my third Proxmox server wanna run network backups, systems networks get backed up on schedules. I would suggest I have a TrueNAS VM. Yeah, TrueNAS is great for that. So Proxmox is okay for HomeLab, nothing nice for them. And this is where people will debate all that. I've seen businesses using Proxmox, like people have talked to us about it. A lot, sometimes it's cause we're doing the backend storage. I don't deal with the front end on Proxmox that much. What are your actual servers, hardware resources that's running on your Zen? There's four servers, four hosts. So this has 56 cores, this is an R630. This is 12 cores in a Ryzen with 28 gigs, 120 gigs here, 48 cores and another Ryzen, I'm sorry, another R630 and 32 cores in a R720. I guess that's the question you're asking. Oh, and I realized this wasn't tagged. We gotta add a tag here. So, lab, there we go. Now they're both tagged lab so I can find my lab stuff faster. Have you been deploying Starlink so as to backup our main gateways? Yes, we have some clients using it, it's okay. It's better than not having a backup, but yeah, it's still a challenge. Because it's not super good. Is there any good backup solutions? I don't know. Just doesn't 45 drives use Proxmox on a couple of videos? 45 drives uses a little bit of everything. So they aren't specifically Proxmox, they provide solutions. So they're a hardware manufacturer but they have a smart dev team to help push their hardware, so to speak. So they have a dev team that can support different situations and build them out and then they happen to have the hardware to build all of that on. Because you can have a great dev team but then you go, well, now I need some hardware. Hey, 45 drives has a solution for that. So they like Proxmox, that's why they do some videos on it. They're big in community education, they're big in open source. I really love the team at 45 drives, great people. I have a Proxmox VE Sysadmin, I have 35 plus VMs but I'm open in the open source and community. I like a Proxmox that's in and looks nice. We'll make storage pools over Gluster to have storage. Yeah, it comes down to whatever you wanna use. I don't think either one you're gonna have problems with. So whatever happened to the Cisco Catalyst Switch review? I gave one away and the other one's on a shelf. We plug it in once in a while when people have questions. Our lab at the office is used very frequently just to build out scenarios or when we wanna understand a problem that a client's having. We have a lot of hardware in the shelf so we can look at it and understand sometimes what those changes might do. So we still have them. And 45 drives like to support the community so they made Proxmox videos because why not? Yep, I was thinking was do, oh, snap shots because this, yeah, that is a problem. So Kyle is breaking rules over here. Let me find Kyle, where was that running? So Kyle did this. He's breaking rules. You should not have this many snapshots. So you can definitely, the way correlating works. NG, let's see if we can find this. Always a fun topic to talk about coalescence. Tagged coalescence in a forum. I probably have a video on it, probably me coming up. It is, this is funny. I look for something and I'm doing the video on it. Let me find it though. So there's gonna be a specific so we can talk about it. That's Proxies, one of these links I had in here. We'll see if it pulls up. But anyways, there's a good article. If you search for coalescing, you can eventually find it. Or I thought I was doing a video on it because it's why snapshots cause the problem is when there's a whole series, you have to understand how the forking of the virtual disk file works and then you go, oh, that's how it's able to maintain all these. And you're like, oh, that's why coalescing and reassembling these is a challenge. So you can definitely have too many. Network guy needs a sanity check if you have XC feature without encrypted drives, but all the VMs you make are encrypted, is that fine? Yeah, if you encrypt, just encrypt the VMs. Like if someone stole that wouldn't be able to get the encrypted VM data, correct. Because as I mentioned earlier in the live stream, I have encryption. So this is, let me unencrypt it. Let me put the password in. If you were to steal my virtual machine, stuff that's critical has passwords on it. Like this box that runs things. So this is our jump box we have. And if we try to restart it, we can just tell it to reboot here. Watch what happens when it boots. So if someone were to power off the machine cause they wanted to steal my data, they're like, cool, I have Tom's data. Let me boot up his virtual machines and extract the details from them. And you're like, cool, except it'll bring them to this prompt. That's one of those things you do. You set up passwords on there that are required to type in to get these to boot. This is what stops the physical theft of your machine turning into the exfiltration of your data. Please unlock the disk. Okay. Now the disk is unlocked and we've finished booting and life is good. So yes, that's my solution. The only issue to use, Rumiya, not really. I have used it. I don't RDP very often. So it's neat, but because I'm not doing much in a way of RDP, I don't really end up using it. I guess it depends on where the encryption keys are being stored. That's a different issue, but yes, it can be an issue as well. True NAS machine. I think about what I was gonna say next. Our True NAS machine also requires a password to unlock the data sets. Like someone has to type a password in to unlock the data sets. If you don't unlock the data sets, you don't get the data. So someone were to physically remove our True NAS server. Once again, they would not be able to get the data out of it. The data sets are encrypted at rest. I see you have four servers. Hold on a second. Is that right? Are those four servers being administered as a cluster? That's referred to as a pool in Zen, not a cluster. And two are in pool A and two are in pool B, essentially. One's called my lab pool. So yes, they're not all in one. So here's the four servers. Here's the two pools. Each pool has two servers in it. One's called lab, one's called pool of Zen. We probably are gonna merge them all back into one, but for now, we don't. Thanks for the clarity. My subconscious can sleep. Yes. I'm also encrypted in my Debian because I encrypt everything. My computer that I'm on right now requires a password to boot up. I mean, the drive is encrypted at boot because why not? My laptop especially always encrypt at boot. Like I don't wanna worry about the thought that someone me, you know, wander off with stuff. Used me quite a bit, wrote into Windows from Linux. No, it's a good solution for that. I've used it. I just don't know if I use RDP. The nature of what I do, RDP is not really it. We use a tool called Screen Connect. That's how we connect to most of our client stuff. What's the best way to set your topology ready to CPU? I have a core CPU XP defaults to my VMs to four sockets of two cores. Should I just change it to one socket, eight cores? Look up for this size, probably not. Windows has some core socket combinations that it cares about, Linux does not. Linux doesn't really care much about core socket. But if you're running Windows, Windows has limitations for how many cores can be assigned or how many, yeah, how many cores per socket can be assigned and it varies with versions of Windows. I don't remember the details of it, but it's a Google search way for you to find it. Do you use any tools like Sandoid or to manage your ZFS snapshots and backups? No, I use TrueNAS to manage all my ZFS snapshots. Yeah, setting a mesh sensor, when you set up your mesh central, that's a tongue twister server, you reduce it a lot, yes. Absolutely. That mesh central, I'm not used to it, but a lot of people seem to like it. What about the 100 days? You should be participating. I should have said that at the very beginning, but I've said it kind of sprinkled throughout here as seen as you asked. You should be participating in 100 Days of Home Lab because you are now joining and doing the hashtag 100 Days of Home Lab to kind of keep pushing yourself forward on different things you want to try. I have not been good about posting as much other than just like tagging it, because me, it's like a forever. It's like years and years of Home Lab because I'm constantly dumping data out there for people in the Home Lab environment, but specifically for people trying to get started. I really like Techno Tim's challenge on it. He did a great job. Watch his video on it. Can XEG Packet Field directly on VM interface without having to create a managed separate VM? There is the ability that I never use it, but that ability exists to create specific traffic rules. I don't have it set up. I don't have the SDN set up to do this because I just don't need it. But yes, you can build traffic rules right inside of here to control specific VMs. You can force certain IP address, entering a static IP, entering an IP address, editing details of the network interface. It can be done. I don't use it, but it's a feature. No problem. Welcome to the show. Open source asset management. Snipe IT is probably the best one out there. I can't even name a competitor to it. That's his feature complete. Yeah, it's actually kind of chilly this morning. It's great. It's gonna be a good morning to cut the grass. Ha ha ha ha. When I get to cutting the grass. Techno Tim is streaming on Twitch later today. Yes, that is awesome. Awesome open source. They cover a lot of good open source things for sure. 200, yeah, smashed out like button, man. There's 77 likes. Let's see if a few of you here can go ahead and do that. Yeah, tactical RMM looks interesting. That program is getting more popular. I haven't used it, but a lot of people seem to like it. Can you do something about SDN? Maybe. It's low on my to-do list because I just don't have a need for it. But it is supported. If you go to the plugins, I have so many other things to do. It's been a lower priority. But you have the ability to, here. Yeah, you can configure the SDN controller. Once you configure the SDN controller. So if we actually, I'll pull up the page on it because they have a better explainer. So they have an entire, we get the mouse wheel rolling. Documentation on how to do VX lands. Open flow rules and all the things you can do with their SDN controller. It's just, I don't use it. It's really cool. I've known people who use it, but it's not me. So that's why I haven't really done any videos on it. But yeah, it's definitely cool. It's a cool system. I'm glad they built it all in. Tail scale, like magic, any security concerns? Yes. Any company that controls the interconnects between your servers, even though they can't see the data between them, they have the ability to add nodes within to that mix because that's what the dashboard does. There's your security risk from it. What are your thoughts on the forbidden router? It's pretty cool. I love that he called it the forbidden router. So it's a neat project. For SD, we and I like Nebula. Nebula's pretty neat. My friend runs, my friend's the founder of Nebula. How did you get into firewalls? Well, back in the 90s, I had to start learning because there was this really popular game called Unreal and I wanted to host servers. So somehow that launched me into learning about firewalls. I don't really have an easy answer. I mean, I have videos on getting started with PF Sense, but I generally am a little bit more advanced. I'm not sure where... I've been doing it for so long, I don't have easy recommendations for, you know, like I'm just getting started, but nonetheless, I think a lot of people seem to like my videos on it. I think they're pretty complete, but maybe they're too advanced and you're not there yet. I don't know. It's hard always, this is a really hard things. I don't try to judge where people are. I can just kind of point them to places and they can keep narrowing it down until they figure out where they wanna be. Is there anything you want us to help you with, Tom? You're always helping us. No, that's what I like to do. I've spent my career, as I said, I mean, my tech job dates back over 25, 26, I started, my first tech job was in 1995. So that means I've been working in tech for almost 20, is that, that doesn't matter, I don't wanna think about it like that. Is that really how long I've been doing this? Wow, okay. You're made me realize my age. I don't know if that's good or bad. Ha ha ha. Last night, I finally pulled off publishing privately hosted container and internet proxy on the public side through Zero Tier, a container in my state. Awesome. I assume that firewalling to VMs is going to be a pain. It's not how I'd wanna manage it, but you know, this is an orchestra is used in data centers and data centers, you can't just let people choose their own IP address. That would be bad. So when this is used in data centers, that's when you want to make sure, really simply, you don't want any of this to be easily changed in a data center. So someone could assume someone else's IP or cause problems. So this is important for that use case. I'm not running it in a publicly accessible data center. We're just using DHCP. Don't do the math. Yeah. Don't do the math. We'll go with that. Welcome to the old man IT club. Yep. What was the first firewall I had used? So let me find it. I think I used this one prior. Let me see if I can find a page for it. This is from 2005. The first one was probably, or let me, or was it Mandrake or IP cop? Let me find the Wikipedia entry for it. So I need some history right here. Latest, where did it founded? Man, I thought it was, I don't think it's IP fire. IP fire is a new one. So let me go back. I'm looking for, when does this get founded? I can't remember which one to use. It was either Mandrake or IP cop. But when was this one founded? It's what I'm looking for. So let's pull this, show you what I'm looking at here. We'll look at it together. Okay, so 2004. So yeah, Mandrake was first before I moved to IP cop and later to PF cents. So it's, so yeah, in the 90s, it would have been, God, what did I first use? It probably was just me writing Firewall rules in Linux. I really think that might have been my first. It's been so long, I kind of forgot. Intel I225 Nix, they work, far as I know, they work fine. Oh, someone out here is older to me. 1975. Well, I was not working in 1975. I wasn't really doing anything. I didn't exist. Depending on where it was in 75, those may have been prior to my existence. Same here, so it was my first job in 1995, ended up leaving job as a network admin, small city in Texas, got lucky landing job. Cool. What do you prefer, HomeLab, Dashie or something else? What is Dashie? Why would I use it? To ultimate homepage for your HomeLab is Dashie apparently. I don't use any of these. I don't know why I would. Dashie is an open source, customized easy privacy-respecting dashboard app. Neat, but I don't know. I just have everything bookmarked. So I never think about a dashboard to log in. Looks neat, looks pretty. I can't, I don't have a use case for it. How's that? I don't know. Novel? For a lot of us counting IT years is tricky because next question is officially unofficially. 1995 is I cite as when I had a job working in tech. 95 or 96 is when I started with a job where people paid me money to touch computers. Prior to people paying me money, I did this. Oops, I'll find the one I had, there we go. I had this. That was what I was playing with before people paid me money. I had an old, in the late 80s, I acquired a TRS-80 and that's really what got my brain going. Maybe mid-80s, I don't remember. When they were getting clearance from Radio Shack. Do you ever play with a checkpoint or Nokia? Not really. Oh, zone alarm. Everyone at some point, yeah, touch zone alarm. Next big thing in IT, if moving the cloud is the last one, I don't know, more virtualization, more magic, more isolation of things. And the cloud isn't new. It's just what the marketing people want to call it new. I'm about to solve XCMPG on HP server. Is there a point to the install the OS on Turingus via SD card? The problem is it can really wear on SD cards or USBs that weren't made for right intensity. It's better to install it on a drive but whatever you have that's more wear intensive so you don't wear it out. So the first one I had learned was 12 years ago, IP tables, net filter was sent to OS. Yeah. Hey, trash 80s were great. So I had the Terras 80 deep drive. Ooh, deep drive is awesome. So this is exact one I had right here. The CCR dash 81 by Tandy. I learned so much about this. That's how I used to write all my stuff in basic. I wrote so many cool programs. Yeah, unfortunately it all died and all the stuff broke but yep, definitely had all that. So yeah, it's some color computer system. I remember it could run a version OS, it ran OS nine, which was not a version of Linux. So if we look up TRS 80 OS nine somewhere, hold on, it's probably the wiki page on this, but OS nine, some of these systems ran OS nine 60K which is similar to OS nine. It was a different operating system. I never really got as much into the OS nine. So OS nine is a family of real time process based multitask multi-user system. It's not exactly, it's not really Linux. I mean, maybe someone would figure out how to run Linux on these because you can compile it for anything, but these were not great. I mean, these were Motorola 68,000s, is that what they were? Yeah, but I only dabbled in this. My computer died and I didn't have any money to fix it. So that's where I stopped with before I got into OS nine. I grew up in Argentina, it was super hard to get started because lack of information. When I came to the US in 2003, it was info heaven, for sure, big difference. Access to information helps a lot. I spent a lot of time in the public libraries too. When I was a kid, I was a voracious reader. So I read in the library, I didn't mean to else do. I grew up on a farm, in case anyone was wondering. Did you ever play with RunBBS? I never ran one. I didn't have any, I didn't have the means to ever run one, but I definitely spent time connecting and playing in there. So yeah, user group meetings in public libraries. Yeah, I wish they were a thing where I was. I know they were popular, but here in the greater Detroit area where I am based and from, not really a thing. I was so oblivious. I did not know tape drives were for C64 though. I didn't have internet lookup either. I just knew the tapes sounded funny in a tape player. Yes, they did. Yes, they did. Definitely, some old memories there. Do I need this disk running? Probably not, I'll turn it off for now. Let's save and reduce power. What things are running that don't need to be? How long does this one's running? All right, cool. Those things can remain off. I think I may have to go cut the grass. The stream's been going for an hour and a half, but I do eventually gotta do that. Gotta go cut grass and I'm gonna ride my motorcycle. Is there any news on crowdsick integration with PF Sense? Not really, because I don't know. I haven't really tested it. I haven't really looked at it. It's not my to-do list. It's, it might be helpful for in certain scenarios. I gotta see how the integration is going. Does XP and G auto start setting, which marks VM automatically? Sure does. You go here, advanced, auto power on. You just flip that switch. And if we go here and look at, there's one of the VMs here. You can see auto power on is turned on. That's why it auto starts. So yeah, it's easy enough to do. It's the click of a switch and it's ready. Same thing if you need nested virtualization. You get to do it when a VM's off, but if you wanted to use nested virtualization, Windows update tools, or prevent from accidental shutdown, you just check any of these. Because you're doing dirt jumps on your bike. I do dirt jumps on my bike all the time. So that's actually one of the things I do. So I, my little Sherrod should be able to, I mostly prefer riding my motorcycle in the dirt. So yes, definitely, definitely dirt jumps. Pull this, move this over here. There we go. I go riding around out in the woods a lot. So definitely dirt jumps. I went through grad school MSQE science using Atari 1040. Oh man, I learned Pascal. I did do that a long, long time ago. It's been a minute though, since I've used it. Am I the only one here? I do have a philosophy degree. I work at IT. I'm essentially a high school dropout. So with no formal education beyond high school. Or, I mean, I got a graduate degree from high school, but that's it. That's from my formal education completely stopped. Since you started working at IT, I figured you'd be too old for dirt jumps. Nope. Nope, nope, nope. Not too old for dirt jumps. I probably am. Ooh, Ray or Ciney. Talking about Pascal and Cobol, you're making me seem old. Yeah, me and Ray. He's had his fingers on the keyboard for a long time. Ray or Ciney is a good friend of mine. He runs a lot of fun things, including the lookup MSP dispatch. His, one of his new ventures that he started. So Ray's been hacking away at large scalable networks for many, many years. He's been on my channel before. Easy guy to find. There's not a lot of Ray or Cineys. There's only one that I'm aware of. Oh, let's see. You have an aviation degree. Well, I think flying's fun. So yeah. Cubasic, of course we can throw Cubasic in a mix because if you're not playing with Cubasic monkeys, Cubasic, I'm sure there's someone who, I mean, who didn't love, who didn't learn Cubasic with the monkey game? Like the Cubasic monkeys were awesome. And bonus MSP dispatch featuring Tom Lawrence since yesterday's episode. So if you guys want to see me not on my channel, talking about the news, I joined Ray for that. So go ahead and check that out if you're interested in some of the tech news that happens in our industry. Where would a support discretion be useful for XCPNG if those are reliable? I don't know why I would need one outside of XOA. Once you have large environments, you'll find people do weird things in large environments. So they want to have that support ready if they need it. So we have a lot of our large clients. They find the support very reasonably priced, compared to what they used to pay for things like that. So Cubasic gorillas, I know, isn't it great? Monkey flashbacks. Gorillas was great. See, this is when gorillas were great. NFTs, that's when gorillas aren't great, but this is the original Cubasic gorillas. This is the original where so many people learned. Gorilla dot BAS, man. This is some classic here. It was a fun game. I kind of want to play it now. There's got to be someone that's rebuilt it on like Python or something like that. And maybe that's a good way to get people into Python. Cause I don't know if I'd recommend learning Cubasic today. I mean, you could. I have a friend who does COBOL. So for any of you that don't follow my friend, Veronica's channel, Veronica explains, and she's talked about this, she writes COBOL. So manages it. So yeah, Prince of Persia was a classic game. Actually, is it Commodore? I remember if it was a TRS 80 or Commodore when I first played that. I feel it was on the Commodore that I played it. Prince of Persia on Commodore was awesome. That was a great game. You need a Cubasic. It was remade in Python. All right, so I keep thinking I'm going to stop and really learn Python. I think the best way to learn Python is going to be to play the gorillas game. That was probably it. Yeah, Commodore, this was a great game. I really have no complaints about playing this. This was just, it was just fun. I'm glad many of you enjoyed it as well. So I'm getting all nostalgic here. Do you know of any alternative tools to Clover bootloader for bootloader with USB boot from SSD? No, I don't. So I am not sure. Rage is DM me. So actually, let's pull this up. So let's throw this up on the screen. Here we go. Cubasic gorillas. So you can play it online. I forgot about these. These play classic games. I'll drop a link here in the live stream too. Yeah, that's definitely pretty cool. You know, I wonder if I can do this. I also, the reason I got to cut the grass is we're actually working on the yard. Can I just, I don't know how this would work. I've not tried this. Will it work or is it too big and make something stupid happen? Actually, this is funny. Can I upload this video? What will? That's how I need to end all the live streams, right? I just realized I forgot I can do this. This is how we end the live streams. Oh, that's great. I love it. I keep this one. It's like, it's right in a list of memes and I have it at the top because this is what I reply. When someone asked me if something on Twitter, this is like, so I don't have to try to find it. This is my reply. Like, what should I do about this? I'm like, this is my answer. So this is, yes. It's just how we, I don't know. It's fun. No, I was actually trying to upload something else. So I wasn't trying to upload this but it made me curious what happens when I try to upload these video files. So my LTS video, I actually was trying to, this one's probably too big. Oh, okay. That one uploaded too. Neat. We're redoing my backyard. That's why I got to go, my wife's, I know she wants me to go participate in backyard. I did this with the Synology though. It does time lapses of things. What has been the project we're working on is remodeling all this. 35 yards of mulch brought back there. That's cool. I can just keep doing it. I can go back to this. I didn't know I could do multiple. I haven't played with this new feature in StreamYard. So I can just go back to different ones and switch back over to here. That's novel. Someone is rage quitting his job. Yeah. Has anyone heard of the Lunar Lander game? Yes, I've heard of it. I never played it. Yeah. I used my 12 year old for, cool. Lunar Lander on Vax 11. That would, yeah, that's some old stuff there. But this is what my yard looks like now. So this is where I have to go. It's mostly done. That's mostly what you're seeing is we're watering it because this is all the hay that you laid. I think it's hay. I don't know. I'm not a landscaper. I paid landscapers because I don't know what I'm doing. So, but they put all this in back here. So now it looks prettier and my wife's happier. Those are things that matter. She likes to back here. I just like sitting back there. But we're winding it down. If your wife wants to back here, shouldn't she be in the back yard? Doesn't it? Or does she just want you to work in the back? She wants me to work in the back yard. Straw, usually. I don't know the difference between straw and hay. It's yellow and it's all over my yard. Now you know why I work in computers. My answer to the hay or the straw. I could probably Google. We should have electric open source cars. One day we will. That's not today, but I'm all for it. I'm all for that idea. I think we'll get there. So straw is a stocks and hay is a tops for the feed, I think. Okay. We'll go with that answer. You seem to say it with confidence. Therefore, I can believe it. That's how a lot of this goes. Someone said something confidently, so it's true until someone checks them at Google. Grew up on a farm, eh? There's a lot of... You know the parts I grew up on a farm doing? Work. You know what I did? I asked questions. My grandpa would say, get back to work. I did not learn a lot. My fascination on a farm was fixing tractors. I know all kinds. I can tell you a lot of details about a 1940s Ferguson tractor. I can fix Ford tractors. I even worked on ones with hydrostatic transmissions. I love tractors. I could care nothing. I have lost out of my head anything it took to do things out in the field. I know I picked a lot, way more than I ever wanted to pick of any vegetable. And I am fine to go to the store to purchase my vegetables now. Hey, it's growing from livestock straw, caused from grain. Okay, bear enough. Yeah, we had no livestock. We were just like a small farm and we did things like corn, tomatoes, green peppers, things like that. So we just grew vegetables. That's it. We grew vegetables. So we didn't even grow hay. I knew we had bales of it. I knew they were bales of hay that we threw around for some reason. I don't even know why. We also had DDT. My grandpa had big buckets of DDT that we used to spray to get the mosquitoes to go away. I don't think you can do that anymore. Rebuilt the John Deere Model B. Wonder if I can put a ubiquity hotspot on it. Yeah, maybe. Yeah. I shared a picture on my Twitter the other day. I still like mechanical things. What did I post? This right here. So I still have a lot of love for mechanical things. This is my old Honda that I still ride. This is one of my other motorcycles. It's a 1970s Honda. I still love the old mechanical things, complete analog. There's no circuits in this. The closest it has to a circuit is a bridge rectifier for the charger. I still love a lot of these older things to work on. So yeah. So now starting a new gateway computers. Oh, I remember that. So yeah. I still like the food from farms. I still like my vegetables. I just don't want to be the one growing and picking them. That's what I remember about farming. I am perfectly fine not being the one to do that. Yes, this is a Trail 90. So, but thank you everyone for joining on this live stream and keeping me from cutting the grass. I will go now cut the grass because I plan to go ride my motorcycle after I cut the grass. So yeah. What keyboard are you using? Ro-cat. So actually, wouldn't it be better if I did this? There we go. Ooh, look. Kind of like, actually this is fun. Hold on. You can see the glow on my face. But yeah, this is a Ro-cat keyboard. So there we go. It's great. I love this keyboard. Hey, someone else needs to cut the grass as well. Thanks for having us around and we'll end the stream. This is how we gotta end it. I'm just gonna leave this in here so I can just play this clip, whatever. Oh, I love that it's going in slow motion for reasons I don't know why, but it looks cooler. May I make a slow motion version of it? Enjoy Techno Tim's stream later today. He is going to be streaming. So join him. Join him on 100, he's a homelab. Participate in 100, he's a homelab. Excited to see more people getting into it. Hit that like button and all that fun stuff and I will see you Thursday, but maybe actually Wednesday because I'll be doing a video with Jay. That's the homelab show is gonna be this Wednesday. So thanks everyone for joining in, see you next time. Oh, hit me up on my forums or DM me on Twitter. Feel free to reach out and say hi or go in the forums and post a more in-depth question.