 Welcome to the 21 report. I'm Frank Pesci and I'm here with Elviate Hulse patriarch of four founder of strength camp infamous youtuber and Leader in making men great again. Elliot great to see you brother. Thanks. It's great to be here again Absolutely, so I mean Europe you're like a renowned speaker here. You've spoken here many many times each event obviously has a different vibe What do you think of the event so far this year? Well, I can only base go based on my experience what I've done so far and I delivered a message that I really want to deliver and The Holy Spirit was with me came out beautifully Perfectly on all time and so I'm proud of myself And I'm here now to take in the gifts of the other men and so yeah, I'm having a great time Amazing your content has shifted a bit in the last couple of years And you have been in my view very much more spiritually inclined towards your work How has the reception of that been among your fans because you're a guy with you know, two million followers was it hasn't been well received What's your feedback on that? I? Mostly hear the positive voices. I just have to say that I'm sure there are those that are receiving it net negatively or But they're silent. They just fall away And so I have a much smaller viewership As a result of just who I am becoming But I'm okay with that because those that are drawing close Probably the ones I want to be around anyway, right and then better faith Right, so it's obvious to me that you are walking on the path that you feel is in line with your assignment your purpose Absolutely, you say that's true. Yes 100% that's beautiful. Is there any greater? Joy or obligation a man can experience them fulfilling his purpose What else is there you're lost? right right what um What are you discovering along this path because I know you're a guy who's always been you know Has put God first has put family first has put principles first But I also know that your man's heart is always open your ears are always open your mind is always open as you're walking along Things are being discovered to you right being revealed to you in this panel discovery on a regular basis How do you manage that? How do you how do you leave yourself open to be a vessel to? Let those things come through you in your work. I Can't lie. I'm I wear my heart on my sleeve. And so whatever I am is what you're gonna see and So I don't think about it. I just show up nice Nice, I love it. Well, tell me about your speech today I had the benefit of sitting in the audience had not there are a few key points you'd like to maybe touch on yeah, so I Have a lens that in life Through a thought being a father my father and I'm also a father of three daughters You're talking about your sons and it was so fascinating to hear where you are with your sons And I am with my daughters. We both want them to be their best selves But in very different ways you're raising men to Bring a wife into his life and I'm raising daughters that are preparing to be good wives and so In that in my walk with Christ, I've also come to know Mary and She speak to me immediately because I say my daughters could learn something from this woman if if they knew only knew about her and So my talk was about how well The generate the culture has become but hope for more in terms of Removing the scourge of feminism by giving women back an icon of a perfect woman Who better than the mother of our Lord? and so my offer is to Maybe we could bring Mary back as a means of Eradicating feminism and destruction in the family How do you communicate this to your daughters? I mean do you like I have sons I can sit down with my sons I can engage in a project with them. We can go turn a wrench together We can do work on the homestead and we can have conversation whereby I'm imparting things into them I'm not a father of daughters though How do you communicate with your daughters to help them understand what's important in life? How to find a good husband how to be ready for a good husband? How are you giving them that legacy mindset and value that you're obviously doing a great job of offering to them? Well, thank you. I've made a lot of mistakes. I'll be honest about that but I also have a grace and that is my family my father and A strong man indeed they that gift they gave to me and family family is very important for me growing up My dad was on the show a couple years ago. I remember I was here. Yeah, awesome That's inside of me So even when I've made some mistakes early on as my father would always say if it's instilled in you It's gonna come through and and it really did so you know, I we never know what we're doing and we're doing what we're doing what we're trying our best and With my daughters when they were young I would I exposed them to the culture Which is in normal doses for most people they had screens and things and they're looking They're uh, you know being influenced by the world And it kind of it bothered me a bit that I don't have more influence over my children's minds and what they're doing What they're thinking what they're looking at even on those damn screens And I so that was a that was a serpent. I let into my family like I said that yeah I recognize that and what when it was maybe too late No, but you're a father and you're doing something about it and you still have influence with your kids Absolutely, so although the serpent was there you were able to provide the anti-venom for that serpents bite Just like the Bible says that we shall you know be bitten by serpents, but the venom shall have no power over us Yeah, you understand. Yeah, and that is the role of a father that you couldn't know a Val that a wife has made you couldn't know a vow the child has made right you are the patriarch And you have the authority and you are the covering over that households Yeah, brother when you said I'm sorry. We're getting like revelation here on camera. I appreciate you bro. Okay Okay, I don't know if you knew this I lost my dad in June of 21 It was a heartbreaking and difficult loss for us me and my dad were probably as close as you and your dad We had that type of relationship and I was forced to reckon You know with that relationship Who did what did my father think of me? What did he want from me? What tools did he give me? What did he speak into me? What kind of life did he breathe into me so that I would achieve the good and godly things that he saw for me on my trajectory of life and I had to analyze those things and make sure that I myself was positioned on that path Appropriately so that I can carry those things out because I want my children to also be legacy minded So fathers like you fathers like me that take this opportunity seriously to raise up children We have to encourage people that is not an impossible task and that we are equipped We have the resources to do it and we have the canvas if we have the ears of our children and we as long as we have their hearts There's tremendous work that can be done. Hmm. Yeah, and I have my daughter's hearts Amen. Mm-hmm But also I become ahead Right I become the leader. I step into my role as father and say no whoa hold on I figured out what I did. This was wrong and so as response I Saw more order on especially in my own life Because the the family of course is going to be a full extension of the father the head and so this draw towards Christianity and masculinity. It's really what it is. But everybody's answer ultimately is but we need God So But we're image-bearers. I forgot Or maybe I didn't even know and I don't think most of us do but when you figure that out In you get on your toes So you're saying that you Plugged into a source and that has changed the whole trajectory of your walk in terms of your effectiveness Your ability to be able to deliver content and to have an impact within the framework of your home and your family Is that what I'm hearing? Absolutely. Yeah in a way that I could feel I Take a lot of responsibility on because people watch where I'm going and what I'm doing and who I'm being facts facts It's not just my family. I have millions of men who have watched me or they're watching through the corner of their eye And are they following me and if that's true, I'm not sure I can handle that and will fall in man But if I'm following Christ Then I know that even if I'm doing things that I don't know I'm pointing them in the right direction Elliot why do people watch your content because I'm charismatic. Okay. What are what are they extracting? Like what is bringing them back? You're the creator I'm curious to know how you see it because I can go out there and ask your fans And I bet you I can get tons of different answers from people. You asked me earlier to my daughters Verbalize what I do and I struggled I'd be interesting to see as well. I don't know. I don't know what I'm doing But I know that who I'm being is very effective And so even if it's just you're there watching me and seeing there There was a documentary one of my fans made said the rise and fall of Elliot hopes interesting. Yeah, no fall No fall you were just you're on the launch pad my brother. They're paying attention Wow Okay, so what what do you do with something like that when somebody brings a word against your life? That says the fall. How do what do you do with that? I don't have to believe it. That's their perception I've been walking this path and I'm still on my feet So this doesn't bother me at all. But what encourages me is that kid's still watching me He sent me a message the other day So The picture gets clearer so funny because people come and go I had one fan here that said that I was with you Then I left in that I came back and so some people are doing the opposite But it's interesting. I grew up with the internet. I was 25 when I started in 2007 they can YouTube videos and So there are people that have been watching me since I was a 27 year old kid 43-year-old well was a young man, but much older man. I got graybears here in teenage daughters much different So in a way, I'm a reality show to some but I think they receive Something special that I give that they receive from me and through the videos into their life and so I Think God's doing something through this crazy guy People that watch content creators often in their own way want to become content creators themselves So you might have a young guys watching your stuff saying, you know, I really vibe with him He I like his presentation style. I want to do something similar space. Let me learn from him Mm-hmm. What advice would you give to young people that are looking to get into the content creation space? Hmm? Well, I didn't try to get into the content creation space or the YouTube celebrity space So I have a different I'm coming from a totally different place where they are They have to erase some things that are deeply ingrained. I never watched YouTube I didn't grow up watching YouTube. Somebody just put a camera in front of me and I'm like, I'm just gonna do what I'm gonna do Yeah, and so I can't relay that to someone who's been watching YouTube videos since the time they were in strollers So I know that anything that I say is It's not totally true for them But if I offer Them my experience from what I did I just turned on the camera and answered questions I'm yo Elliot. I Stood close to the camera. That was a trick that I learned watching the hodge twins and I close to the camera so I've taken my shirt off and So visually appealing we talked learned about seduction. I'm being seductive I got big pink lips sort of take off my shirt. I got traps So there's a level of seduction You got to be good at that, but you also got to be Delivering some value and so You got to be good at something a lot of these people in tiktok makes it the case that they have zero talent And they think that they're special and that people should listen to them Or they have zero Expertise mastery something to talk about they think that people just want to engage with you Like you so cool. Just being a youtuber. Here's my life people are interested in your fucking life Most people are not interested in your life interest in their life. You're either entertaining or delivering some mental spiritual value That's it. These are some tips and those are things that I did and Partly why I am where I am. I'm not sure if I started today. It would go that way. I don't know Do you work hard? I? Never stop working. Okay, everything I do is work So the point is to be a content creator and to have a YouTube following and social media presence that you have is a lot of hard work Yeah Right So what I see in the in the next generation is everybody wants to become a youtuber everybody wants to become an influencer But I don't know that the work ethic exists because you know young people today are not Getting their first job in construction. They're not you know breaking their back and earning their way somewhere Everybody wants to start off with seventy five thousand dollars a year, right? You know, right? What's the future for them? What? What would you say to that? well Start lifting weights. Okay, right? We don't have to use our bodies But it teaches us something if we commit to something what better than ourselves But then to build up our bodies you say construction immediately in my my head I thought well, I never did construction miles constructing my body It's a very masculine thing to do But we'll give you the work ethic to then apply it to something else. She has to start somewhere Genius, I love that you have to put your body through a time of hardship and struggle so that you can grow both physically and mentally because The holistic approach is the body is you know operating on one axis or what two axis I got a better Solution actually come on one that would proceed it because it's passive fast You've been talking a lot about fast in the last couple years, please. I Would like to hear more on this context It's not about building yourself up and more doing and adding what it's about. Can you handle taking away? Because that's an addiction to right always doing something It's a form of austerity very masculine, but not in a forthright way. It's a letting go of the matrix And then going of the mama boy in you that says, oh, I can't go without my goodie goodie my next meal or my cigarette or Rubbing my nut off that porn So austerity, I would say that's the first place to begin. What kind of shit you need to get rid of and Can you tame your passions? especially hunger Three days there's two or three days and what do you find on the back side of that? Oh, man I just started a new program called King initiation and so among our austerities for 21 days are three back-to-back 72-hour fast each week starting on Sunday and It's my first time experience Experimenting with this. I've been doing this on myself. I've did it. I've done it before and I wrote an e-book about it I was like, I'm gonna take these guys through this We did a breakthrough call on Wednesday and it was mind-blowing the things that were unfolding in these men's life Revelations are coming to them graces are coming to them They're facing challenges that would otherwise probably not present themselves if they weren't going through these austerities, right? But those things need to be dealt with and so what you know What would have otherwise been exposed if you didn't cut it off for a little while? So I'd say that's the place to begin to start taking responsibility for your life as a man It's a form of initiation because you got to have a clean break with the old stuff There's ever gonna be new implanted. I can forward that tremendously. We are approaching times that Perhaps have been unseen in history. We're living in a generation where There's a lot of uncertainty on the horizon say the least. I don't think we need to unpack this I think everybody knows what we're at Men patriarchs family men young men men in general They're looking for their next move. They're trying to figure out how to navigate these rough moors that are ahead of us You as a content creator with a following of men who are purpose-driven dedicated men who are looking for growth looking to do better How do you engage these guys? How do you get them on a path where they're actually productive and able to be equipped to to counter and encounter the uncertain times they're coming? Fast I'm still stuck on that. Okay fast. I'm stuck on that It's also good for the uncertain times. We might not have as much food as We're used to having that's okay, too. That will toughen a man up but there's no building up from a Ditch if you're still in it. There's no mountain if you're in it. You gotta get out of that ditch first You got to fill that up with Cutting things off that are keeping you stuck down there. So not until that's done until the slate is clean Even emotionally, you know the things that draw you like anger, you know unforgiveness There's got to be a lot of letting go I believe Before anything is really gonna imprint itself on you otherwise it's gonna be perverted I've experienced that in my life with drugs. It's still there Hanger but these things are very insidious and subtle too. It's could be food That's it's so clear. It's an addiction and they're glorifying obesity crazy. So all these things. They're like sins Density holding you back Rather than thinking about how I'm gonna get there get off of this first and then The Holy Spirit carry you at least that's been my experience I don't have to do too much doing and thinking and trying because I'm not in resistance with myself Attachment and in that space life is full of grace God can take you places. I like to say to guys who don't know what to do with their life Let it be revealed But you can't if you're still stuck Reveal is an opening to the divine I think a lot of men today are struggling with the issue of self-respect. I think a lot of men are living with regret they're living with a Lack mindset the lack of a better word You're a guy who's obviously respectable. You walk into a room people recognize that you're there You're able to conduct yourself in social graces. You're an interesting guy. I Look at some young people today young men even who are coming to the 21 convention Just trying to get equipped for the future and I see that some of them, you know, perhaps struggle with self-confidence and self-respect How do you remedy that still the same thing? It's really forgiveness of our parents has a lot to do with it because They did the best that they could but they're raising us in a tough world in a tough time and if you still have Any hang-ups or animosity because your father wasn't there like both of us is different There's a lot of boys that have no fathers And so there's no strong foundation to springboard off of I was dealing with a young man today who's he Went to his mother with forgiveness forgive you mother She spoke Not good things to the boy when he was young especially about his father She blew up in outrage Here's a 27 year old man still living with her Beautiful kid. I love him one of my students But he's still got mommy issues like that. What can you do with it? So that's why I'm kind of still stuck on this Forgiveness and resolving of sin So any of these men that want confidence Go talk to your mommy about what she did You're still carrying the weight of her guilt and her shame and Our parents sin in many ways Both of them. So that forgiveness needs to be there too Christ says this right don't come to the temple unless you Forgive we don't we so traumatized. We don't even know we need to forgive my parents I guess but now people started to wake up. Hey, that's not fair. I didn't have a dad and Then well, there's red pill rage there, too So the advice that I would give is well forgive love, but then when you're Free from all that trust the father above can't trust the father If I'm talking about all this grace and you're talking about what to do But there's no trust in the father because you're still angry about mother or whatever was going on in our childhood or whatever Is this traumatized culture? There's no hope every man this week. I listen to even the ones that don't believe in God they say but They struggle because they realize we've been sucked down and sinned for so damn long that we used to it We don't even know what father looks like So of course we're afraid but the father just wants to embrace us But we have to let go of what's here, you know I just feel compelled to ask you based on the nature of the things that we've been discussing so far Spontaneously, this conversation is rather spontaneous. How does a man break power sin in his life then? I'm trying we all try it Jesus came to give us the way I know that I believe that we're forgiven. We are forgiven. That needs to be first understood totally forgiven But we have the effects of dense sin and it's and we live in a world that promotes it It's crazy. The art is all about sin. We're swimming in sin Not an easy thing to do Benedict took his boys outside of the Empire and built monasteries Just get the hell away from all this stuff But we just know where to go for us, right? I myself am originally from New York Which is obviously you get it it's Babylon and I moved out to the Ozarks not in the country I'm out in the hills. I will tell you right now the same influences that are at work in New York and LA and The capitals of the world that are promoting bad things progressive agendas Penetrating the hills of the Ozarks because it's coming through the phone Yes coming through the media and if it's and if it's not coming through your kids phone It's coming through your kids friends phone kids friend is showing your kid So I mean no there is nowhere to go to avoid that So what does that mean? That means that wherever you are you need to be able to be encapsulated in a fortress So that you can stand and you can fight wherever it is that you are can't run We have to be ready to confront the enemy wherever we stand in this context. We're talking about spiritual and right and I'm thinking about prayer No doubt. Do you have people praying for you in your work? Do you have intercessors that hold you up in prayer because your work is very influential among men? And it's him has a big impact on how people engage with their families with their work. I Mean your work is not inconsequential Elliot. I Believe that I do because they tell me my fans that said I've been praying for you Elliot So I know that they're there, but that question brings up a Concern something that maybe I should think more about and that is Being a part of communal prayer Maybe we pray for each other. I know there's a priest that does this for him in his exorcist And he invites people to worldwide to pray you could pray for this and we'll all pray for each other in a particular way But it's a prayer group Our prayers are more efficacious together. This isn't an epiphany for me and awakening for me Learning all this as I go along sure corporate parents is definitely a thing Wow Well, I would encourage you just to continue to stay With an open ear with an open heart. It's it's obvious that God has put you in a place where he's using you to speak to people and you can't take that responsibility lightly because the Impact that you're having is is happening in real time whether in the home whether outside the home in places of work You know it governs all interactions what we believe we become a product of what we believe when we believe about ourselves and What I like to see and I don't want to make this too much of a religious talk I want to give people a variety of content But I would like to talk about how do men develop excellent habits habits of excellence that can Show forth in their work and their family life and all that they do we've obviously covered prayer We've obviously covered Being in there, but you're a guy that you've harnessed growth. You have continued to grow You've managed a business you raise a family You've built a huge audience huge following You're doing things like depriving yourself of food depriving yourself of the pleasures of the world So that you can have a better grasp on reality and have clarity as you see it and and and by all means I don't mean to say we have to take the religious out of it. I just I'm interested in hearing from you on a practical level. What are some of the habits of excellence and if it and if it's just spiritual That's fine. I'm fine with that, but I would be interested to know number one is priorities Because if we don't know we're not prioritizing we don't know what's important then we can be chasing all kinds of squirrels when there are lines out there and For me family is priority, right? That's priority for me And so that's a north star that I Adjust to that my vision for my family and So having a mission right like priority means that you know what your mission is you put in the first things first Right in that Stephen Covey. He says, you know, the first habit really is putting first things first What the most important habit putting first things first so There's that I'm always a better man when I'm praying Objectively, I it's no superstition or religious stuff What I'm actively praying there are more graces in my life It I resist it because I'll go in and out of season I'm praying a lot and then I'm not praying so much every time I stop praying I think I'm getting ahead. I'm just getting beat the f up. I started to pray My life becomes more relaxed and the grace of God. So why wouldn't I want to pray? Why wouldn't you want to pray if that power is there? I In a way, I'm convincing myself But that is a priority has to be priority even for my family. I forget sometimes. I'm like my family priority But I haven't prayed for them in a while. I Want that those graces to go there, too You know the Bible for more than I do and I know that somewhere Paul said something about pray on without ceasing I'm proposing You know that this would be a Top priority for any man who wanted to get ahead myself included I can name all the other silly things, but they're kind of I don't say inconsequential, but There are flavor of the day sort of thing right reading a certain book or doing a certain kind of workout But my answer is and like I said is advice to myself is we got to prioritize prayer. I Couldn't agree with you more. I couldn't agree with you more Man, I'm glad we're just having a conversation because it gives me some liberty to just kind of talk back with you Yeah, yeah, you know, there's a very famous scripture Isaiah 54 17 which says that No weapon formed against you will prosper and every time the rises up against you and judgment shall be confuted And a lot of Christians will quote that and use that as you know a flagship scripture to get them through any tough time But what people don't also realize the context surrounding that scripture the Lord says I've created darkness and I have created the devourer to devour and What we have to recognize is that when you look at that immediately there's a tension that exists It's all loving all good. God also created evil and darkness But what he's saying to us is that whatever we will not surrender to him He will allow the devourer to take from us and devour until we get to a place that we will trust him in faith And then press into that relationship Mm-hmm And the whole point to that scripture is to remind us that Although it is difficult to walk on the road the path that Christ that God has given us to walk on It's far more dangerous to not walk on that path So you will confront hardships on that path. Mm-hmm, but at least you're on the path of light when you're in the ditches That's where there's a danger of being overtaken by the enemy Hmm, you know I'm saying yeah, I see that in my life. I see where particularly with my body. It's my body I'm so proud I've always been strong and fast and powerful and good-looking and I can perform and Now I took both these arms from me Snap both my bicep Yeah, it's devoured me look at that. It's an ugly arm. I used to have beautiful arms. This one's not so bad But it's what this one first. I mean you Popped my Achilles tendon. Yeah, I still have a nice-looking body, but I Made myself my God Made my body my God and so the devourer Because I didn't give it I didn't consecrate it. I didn't offer it up to God Snatching off parts of my body Yeah, well, I'll tell you what the Bob talks about the Lord coming back and that judging with a rod of iron and Whose heart that he cannot win now by persuasion? He will win by compulsion because he will have the final judgment in the end So it's really important to have this perspective and again, you know, I mean, I want to respect people, you know with their views I'm not trying to preach out anybody. This is just literally a conversation between you and I But I think that you're in a place of realization where you have seen the idols in your life You have seen by the way you have two million followers. It's very easy to get proud surrounding that subject Yeah, right it can become an idol It can be a weight around your neck and it's important to be in a place of clarity and perspective because you can't take the 2 million followers with you when you're done here what you can take with you though is your testimony and how you manage those 2 million followers and how you took your work seriously to have a real impact in their life that was going to Effect their children the way that they did their marriage because you're huge on marriage talk about it all the time How they developed habits of excellence in the workplace how they actually lived a life that was You know commiserate with what they preached, right? Yeah, yeah That's life. That's life It's an honor. It's an opportunity. It's a challenge. It's a test But but here we are doing it and you know what you and I are sharing a table in the same generation of time You know What are the what are the chances throughout the timeline of all the history that you and I would meet? I've had some pretty key and strategic conversations in the few times that we have met And I myself have developed an admiration for you At a soul level, you know what I mean can't say I've consumed a ton of your content or even go and like your stuff I like you like you as a person. Yeah, I'm saying mm-hmm and that really matters. There's no icon There's no right image. It's you seeing me That's why like coming to these events is Important for men I think because you get to meet the people whom you consume their content have authentic conversations with them And I can make a decision I could say that guy's content doesn't align with who he is So why do I bother and to consume his content? Right? But when you have opportunity to meet your fans and You can say when that guy really really is doing it. Yeah, well, how do you see it? I don't have the million followers you do. How do you see it when you're talking to that question in the beginning? I just show up the worst thing I could do is just not show up And so I just trusted the Lord is taking me where he wants all these people to go and then it's show time. Let's go Do you see yourself as a light bearer? That's one way you might put it, you know, there was all some kinds of fascinating terms we can use well yeah, if Light is information or awakeness or a seeing things anew. I have a capacity to do that If that's what we're talking about. So if light is Seeing I Know I'm helping people see certain things that they wouldn't otherwise see All right, right the man with the torch walking down the path. Mm-hmm. I like it. What are you working on now? What's your next big initiative or have you just? Resign yourself to say hey, I'm at the disposal of whatever tomorrow would bring. Do you have something a little bit? It's a little bit of both. It's always funny that the treasure is right where I left and so I Know what I am and a big part of that is an initiator of men Whether it be through YouTube or in my presence. I know that men grow stronger because of me and so kind of Trying to figure out what that looks like practically Right. God's carrying me, but he needs my help to teaching and carrying men through a Structured initiation process This good masculine ritual Stuff we need to do in a very formalized way and it's airy-fairy digital-world way We're gonna start there and so Some of the things I was talking about before with regard to fasting and austerity. This is what The men of old did when they recognized that they were too attached to the world and its trappings Because that's in my opinion the first step or how I Bring to life the first step in a two-step initiation It's always a move to a removal from the world of the mother moving away from matter sensuality vice Seduction and atonement with the world of the father Structure order legacy Masculine initiation cross-culturally has always followed that Dynamic no matter how they chose to do it Always in the form of a clean break from the mother through austerity a testing a challenge and then the imparting of meaning from men in particular men always carried the Use the term earlier. I don't remember exactly, but the pattern maker the creator the creative architect That's what men do look at the art the beautiful artist architecture Hitler those buildings were beautiful So my focus is on a project right now called King initiation Which we're in the middle of a 21-day austerity and then I Think men will start to once we have self-control Have more of an appetite and they are it's growing for the divine I'm being open to Religion or God or Christ the father is really what it is Elliot question for you Controversial nonetheless question. What is a man? Well, I went on earlier talking about the fact that boys and men are both males And so we'd like to get very existential with our ideas about this But I think the real distinction is between boy and man We know what a male is and we have all our biological and psychological things about it, but The reason why that's such an important question is because unlike girls and women well Nature and God just makes them into that you're a woman They just are and girl turns into a woman, but a boy can stay a boy his entire life Maybe 40 50 60 years old If he's never made into a man men are made and I think that's some one of the things that the perversion of our culture has Forgotten or they know but they're making us into something else making us into girls but Without strong fathers that even know who they are without no without a male imprint in image bearer We have none because we have no God Men are Patterns unto God their father it does a hierarchy for men. We don't work in circles like women men aspire up So to ask what is a man and then come from this egalitarian mindset? Well, that's for you and you're that kind of man in this kind of man It's all everybody opinion. It's whatever you want it to be almost like with women Rather than having a cohesive understanding or at least aiming towards the high standards Of the father above Okay, so you're raising daughters and they and you obviously want them to marry good men Mm-hmm. What do you tell them is a man? I mean do you say break it down just like that? How do you go about you know imparting a very elementary? Okay, it's very elementary because all that Order high order manifests itself in patriarchy You know it is what it is a man Who's carrying that image will act like a husband and father not a boy chasing puss or addicted to video games or drinking on the weekend whatever He's gonna have a sense of well the father but it but it is Very practical because he knows his boundaries to mm-hmm a man of morals moral value. That's Very evident very clearly right, so What I'm doing specifically with my daughters. It's interesting you ask I grew up around boys I'm a mentor to boys. I got one sister and she acts like a boy trying to figure this stuff out Number one, I know that it's about my presence in the home for their example of what is a man But then I have teachings Bible teachings and Teachings around the Christian faith as it represents order Christ and God the father And so if we go back to traditional religion in that way meaning God's order in the home Then it would only make sense that I'm raising my daughters to be wives But she has to recognize order a man that she can trust is gonna Rise hit raise her up not drag her down Is it gonna be difficult for you as a strong man as a powerful patriarch to hand your daughters off and Not try to micromanage, you know the way they start the relationship. Yeah, uh, I think the micromanaging has already begun And so the micromanaging I'm trying to catch up on should be instilled very young Speak these things to your daughter So you're not having to wrestle with them when the cat's out the bag, right? They're still kind of young and receptive my oldest. She hears me and she sees me But it's tough So The whole idea is that you train in such a way that you don't have to micromanage. I don't have to micromanage You know, what's right and what's wrong, right? Isn't interesting how that works Because you have imparted into your daughters a level of discernment a will So that when they're doing things they know that they're carrying out the will of their father When they see things that are wrong, for instance, they say hold on a second. I know that's wrong Well, how do you know that's wrong? Because I was raised to recognize wrong when I see wrong and I won't submit to that It's pretty funny how that mirrors other relationships like the heavenly relationship we have Isn't that pretty amazing? Yes, because when he imprints on your heart and all of a sudden his will is alive and you and you're carrying out Basically the will of heaven is pretty crazy. No, everything's a mirror image, man Yes, sir You pointed out the beauty of creation the opportunity that man has to make creation to do things to manifest Architecture and beauty and you pointed out a key figure in history Adolf Hitler This is not somebody who used his power for good and obviously his legacy speaks You know Doesn't speak well of his art his architecture. God given talents in my opinion that he could have used for good Oh, do you would you agree with that statement? Yes opportunity for good and threw it away? Mm-hmm. Okay so how important is it that men realize that as We have an unlimited amount of potential to be good But inside of all of us we have an unlimited amount of potential to be evil Mm-hmm. How long guard do we need to be for that man? Oh Man, it sneaks up so easily beginning with pride Gotta be on guard It's important. We make the right choices And again, I'll drive home each of us are made with such an image We are image bearers of something so great that we have a tremendous opportunity to bring forth good and evil And if we are not capable or we are not careful Evil can come forth and it can manifest itself in a lot of ways self destruction destruction hourly in society We have a tremendous responsibility not only to ourselves within the framework of self-respect But for the people who are watching us for legacy our children our families people in our sphere of influence To make sure that we are making best use of the good gifts and talents that we have Producing art producing architecture producing creation writing things creating So that we are giving somebody a ladder up a foothold so that they too can walk the path of greatness towards creating good things Amen. Okay Elliot where do people find you? At Elliot Hulse on Instagram. It's kind of where I'm most active these days. I'm starting a new podcast It'll be on my YouTube channel, which is Elliot Hulse also and So those are the two main places where you'll get a little bit more of me Excellent. Well, I'm Frank Pesci with the 21 report. I'm here with Elliot Hulse. Thanks for watching. Thank you