 and welcome to I Have Notes, a show where people with a surprisingly full IMDB page talk things creative animation, maybe Elon Musk and Grimes Kid, who knows, we'll find out. I'm Keri Chakras and with me is my co-host. Hi, I'm Isabel Yola and we also have Erin and Jordan with us today. Hi guys. Hello. Hi. We're back. Good to be back. We made it to two. Good to have you back. Y'all are my favorite guests on I Have Notes so far. Thanks, Keri. That's really good to be here. I was nervous that I'm standing in one of the rehearsals was your favorite. Well, you know, there's still time. Anything could change. But now, how's everybody doing? I'll be good. I just ate like a third of a bag of chips with some sour cream. So I'm like on a spectrum a little less than okay, but livable. How big was this bag? Well, it's the HEB bags and HEB is from Texas. So it's sort of pretty big. Can I ask about the emotions and feelings that led to this decision? Yes. I got stressed. It's weird because I'm supposed to have my time off or I'm supposed to be not working, but then I thought about working and then I checked Slack and then I got stressed. I have to admit I fucked up. So second day of no working, I'm like, oh man, this is bad, guys. As soon as I get time off, I delete Slack off my phone immediately. That is a good thing to do. I've tried just muting it and like without fail, I'll accidentally press on it. What used to get me is the not even just like the notification sound, but the badge icon, like the number. If I have like anything on there, I need to clear it. And so it is sometimes torture to just let that number keep going up. So I turn that off, I turn off notifications. It does show the notification in the home screen. But that's like, if I look at my phone and I see it, I can check it there and it's fine. But I'm not getting the buzz. I used to be in voice recordings and stuff and my phone would just keep buzzing every time I would get a Slack and then like in an hour recording or something, I would check it and it would be like 70 unread messages. And this is in the midst of production and stuff. So it could get pretty bad. You would not like the life I live. I pretty much always have at least 30 unread Slack. We need them. Just clear it. Give me your phone. There are things that I need to do with them. So I leave it marked as unread. I've given up on my email. I can't even do that. Don't even try. I have set reminders. It's like I'm going to read this and then remind me in an hour or something because if I leave it unread, I'm going to like just check it reflexively. So it's not going to be good. Yeah, but maybe in an hour I'm playing Final Fantasy 7. And that's not a good time. So now I'm busy. Now I'm really busy. Yeah. It's important. You know what? You were actually playing Final Fantasy 14. Look. Okay. I don't know what it is. I think I'm addicted to MMOs. There's so many things I need to do and I want to do. But then also being a cat boy in a fantasy world has risen to the top of that somehow. And it shouldn't. But I can't stop playing MMO. I don't know. I haven't played it too much yet. But it was a bad decision that I'm sure I will regret later. Have you been addicted to other MMOs before? Were you on that wild train? Oh, I was on that wild train. I played it like the day it came out. And thankfully that was back when I was in school. So it was just like a summer where I just like basically I became nocturnal. And I would stay with my brother. Yeah. Yeah. That I just like I spent like a whole like year basically. I'm just like having this crazy schedule. And then since then I've mostly stayed out of them. You haven't gone back for like cataclysm. No, I tried a couple of times. I couldn't do it. Once I got out, I stayed out. But that's good. But Final Fantasy though. Carrie, you saying that you're a cat boy made me very happy. I tried it. I modeled my my character for my cat. Especially after a furry conversation. Yeah. Oh, of course. I haven't seen any furry fan art of us and I'm kind of disappointed. I think I'm going to have to commission somebody because I really wanted to happen. I'll commission Aaron. Yeah. Furries? Yeah. Is there is there like a council? A council of furries. Like how do I get in contact with the furries? I don't know. They get to go outside and start like a ritual bonfire or something. That's fair. Hey. Hey, can we talk about trolls too? Whoa. Can we talk about also AMC? The Troll too. And how I'm very confused at what AMC is doing. Oh, man. Yeah. So I actually just watched. There's this YouTube channel I like called Let Me Explain. And it's this guy who covers a movie summaries. Basically kind of does like a basic like here's the gist of it. Here's my opinion. And I just like the way he presents it and how he talks because I think he's really funny. And he's super relatable. So even if it's what Elizabeth Olson in another movie, he always refers to Scarlet Witch. Nice. Me too. It's easy for plebeians like me to remember. And he just released a video for Trolls 2 versus AMC. And it was just a wonderful explanation of how Universal is going into streaming. And apparently they said something that made AMC mad. So AMC is deciding not to put in theaters any universal films. So that includes like the James Bond movie, the Trolls 2 movie. Fast and the Furious. Fast and Furious. Oh my God. What are they thinking? They're thinking they're very important to the studio. And they're wrong. Yeah. I just don't understand. I'm okay. Here's the positive on this. I'm really happy that Universal made a bunch of money on Trolls 2 in this like weird time period that we're in. I'm not going to say trying times because everybody's saying that. We're in a really weird time and they tried something out and it worked. And that's, I don't see how that's not good. Yeah. And I don't understand what weird power play AMC is pulling of like, well, we're not going to show your movies then. See, the thing is like Trolls 2 made more money in the like five weeks it's been out on demand than Trolls 1 made in five months while it was in theaters. Oh my God. What the heck? Yes, exactly. Troll 2 is like this dark horse that has appeared in photos. Is this the only like animated movie to come out like in the, apparently in the midst of the lockdown? I think there's more coming. I know Onward came out like just before because that was the last movie I saw in theaters and then they like released it on Disney Plus. It really quickly, like way sooner than it was. I heard a bunch of people watching it and stuff, but I don't know how that like, you know, there's still a crossover there. So it's not like fully, you know, you can really measure how it was impacted. But yeah, Trolls 2 is really interesting to look at, especially now that they have beef with a movie theater. But can I read the quote that will for AMC release? Yes, please. Oh my God, Aaron, please. So this is, I don't know who hurt these people, but man. Apparently Universal. Apparently Trolls did. It is disappointing to us, but Jeff's comments as to Universal's unilateral actions and intentions have left us with no choice. AMC said in a statement, therefore, effective immediately, AMC will no longer play any Universal movies in our theaters in the United States, Europe, or the Middle East. This policy is not some hollow or ill-considered threat. Which is, there you go. It's very, that's very, because of Trolls 2. This is, this is not some hollow or ill-considered threat. It is a very full and well-considered threat. We are threatening you with all of our might. All of our nothing might. Yeah. Also, I'm surprised they have movie theaters or AMC theaters in Europe in the Middle East. That was. That destined me a little bit. Yeah. Are they only in Saudi Arabia? Because didn't they just like open up a bunch of AMC theaters last year? I don't know. I thought it was just the American thing. I don't know. I don't even know the last time I went to an AMC theater, you know? Yeah, I. Like I only, we have, we're blessed with Alamo Draft House in Austin. Alamo, yeah, it's spoiled. I can never go back to a normal theater. The only time I would ever go to AMC was like if they were doing some like weird showing. Oh, right. Um. Because they do do that. Yeah, they will, but I mean that's not going to be universal to begin with. Yeah. But that's also. Yeah. It will be fast and nefarious. That's not how they're making money. They're making money off of fast and nefarious. And I don't know, half the movies that come out because universal is like 50% of the stupid market share. Yeah. So I, according to the, um, let me explain video with some of the statistics is like, I think AMC is actually the number one movie theaters in like globally. Okay. So they have a huge bid, but at the same time, they're also going very, some, they're, they're doing very badly, um, amid COVID right now. So it's kind of like a, oh, how are they desperate? What's going on? It definitely sounds like it. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's a weird situation. I mean. And then the big thing too with universal is that, uh, unlike what we were talking about with, um, Pixar and how they got onward onto Disney plus with universal's movies, they're only letting people read them. They're not actually letting people own them. So that's how they're getting, they're basically relating. I mean, there's also, there's also a price barrier to watching onward, but it's like, you also get so much more with it as well. So it really, yeah, it doesn't, it's not as easily translatable to like box office numbers. But, but you mentioning, um, AMC struggling, uh, right now Disney plus is really the only revenue stream for Disney I, that I can think of. And it's starting to show, uh, this is a tweet from cartoon brew. It says Walt Disney company quarterly profits plunge 91% year over year from $5.4 billion to $460 million. That is, that hurts my head. That is the difference of $5 billion. It's so hard to wrap my head around because also $460 million is a ton of money. But you know what else is a bigger ton of money? $5.6 billion. I hear a lot about this tweet is, um, it's just an image of Mickey Mouse with his hands out and it says in arch letters, everything's fucked. I saw that in Vegas one time. There's, there is, I saw Minnie Mouse passed down the street and it was basically the same thing. It's so hard to imagine what you do with that much money sometimes. No, I can imagine. Oh yeah, you're right. I said, I mean, and then I was like, okay, no, if you think about the Disney, the Disney company and what they have, it's, it's a considerable amount of money. At what point do you try to start buying a state? Like there's, I mean, they own, they own some islands, right? Their cruises go to, yeah, some private islands, but like, like they have so many things, uh, so many companies they own and like operations that they run, but they're all affected, except for their digital like SWAD platform. Like they can't do cruises, Disneyland, all their parks are closed. Yeah, they can do merchandise, but that's slower. Yeah, they're not releasing any movies. They're not shooting any movies. So even if their animated projects are still, projects are still going, they're not getting released anywhere. And I guess they're not, you know, putting them out on Disney Plus, premiering them on Disney Plus because of the problem with, you know, you can't track the, the sale of it. So they would have to do what, uh, trolls did and just have people rent it. But then I feel like that would kind of devalue Disney Plus then. Exactly. Yeah, they've been undercutting themselves. So they, they almost put themselves in a, right, own tough spot. Almost like maybe they shouldn't have done Disney Plus, but then again, who would predict a pandemic? Yeah, exactly. I know in the grand scheme of things, Disney Plus, or here, here's how we can weigh it. Baby Yoda in the pandemic. You know, baby Yoda is pretty good. He wasn't worth it. I'm not going to say that it was worth it. I am going to say that I really like baby Yoda. That's what I'm going to say. I'll say that. If there's a sacrifice of baby Yoda, will things go back to normal? I don't know, man. If we couldn't fix this pandemic. On the flip side, I'm willing to try. I'm willing to try. I agree. Also, Erin, is that, is that the, is that the shirt that you talked about last week? It is. My great hospital bedside manager. Oh no. I wore this to work, and then I had to leave immediately to go to the hospital, and it didn't occur to me to change. Well, it's a cool shirt. Yeah, I like it. So that part of it is good. If I were in a hospital, I probably wouldn't like it. Yeah. Just quarantine things. Speaking of, this is not actually a good segue, but speaking of just quarantine things, something happened today that as of this recording, I still know to be true. And so I'm waiting, I'm waiting for the second tweet that's like, this isn't real. But until then, I have a little game that I'd like to play with y'all. We have a graphic if we could pull that first one up. What did Elon Musk and Grimes name their child? Boy, did they, hang on, give me one second. So what I want to do is, it's okay. I've got four names. This is multiple choice. I wanted to pitch my own name. Well, hey, you know what? Can I still do that? Go ahead, pitch me your name. Okay, I think they named their child Morpheus. Oh my God. That's pretty good. Yeah, it would have been better. Knowing Grimes and Elon Musk, that's just the chaotic energy. My guess is going to be like, for the combination of those two people, it was going to be either like... Fried Morpheus? Or like a sound. Like just like, you have to make a sound to say the child name. There's a dolphin screeching noises. Yeah, it's like, yow, yow. Jordan, you're walking over there. You're getting close. So, Erin, also I'd like to point out that you probably pick Morpheus as kind of a weird name. And you have no idea how, that is basically James of this situation. I want to give a fair shot. Okay, if we get that graphic back up. So here's our options. A. Show me Fred. Fred. Okay, nice and classic. Maybe a little boring, but you know. B. Rupert. All right. Maybe. I wasn't thinking that when I made this, but you're right. C. We've got Elon Jr. Once, you know, security has like five other kids, I think, but he wants to pass it on. Oh, he does? And then there's D. How do you pronounce that? Is that a model number of a printer? I guess which one do y'all think might be the name of their child? Is D pronounced? I would like to know how I genuine, genuine try. Jordan, can you pronounce D? I don't. So I can't pronounce it. I can try, but my guess is you have to solve the equation. The answer is the child's name. I think we can go ahead. I think it's pretty clear that it was in fact D. Yeah. Oh, no way. I was really hoping for Fred. I did. I was I was gunning for Rupert personally. What are they thinking? There needs to be a stop to this. This isn't positive. I'm sorry. Let's make this possible. Can we make this positive? My first reaction is just are there people who are going to think, oh, this is so smart by Elon Musk. Like if anyone else had done it, they'd be like, come on, people, what are you doing? But like there are people who perceive Elon Musk's his aura, his like weird lifestyle, his brain, if you will. It's a big brain doing it all. Yeah. They perceive it in such a way that they're like, oh, he would. What else would it be? Of course, classic Elon. So smart. I think I saw something that it might be like an aviation. And I own I own one of his vehicles. So yeah, that's probably from someone who has kind of bought in. But also I recognize he's kind of a nerd douche. Yeah. Kerry, you own one of his other vehicles too. Look. Yeah, Kerry also owns this. I like to support Elon. I like the vision he's going for. Yeah. And I also like even some of his weird things where he's like, I think we could genetically make cat girls. I think that's possible. I'm like, OK, OK, I'm not going to stop you. OK, if you were to do that, like I would be all on board. Right. Like he does a pretty shitty thing, but oh, man. That's my thing. It's like it's it's there's a certain point where the bad's going out with a good. And and I'm worried about that. I feel like we're getting closer all the time. To cat girls. Or to Elon losing it. That's what Kerry said, not the cat girl. Oh, OK, well, I pulled up an article while we were talking about because I'm just I'm trying to remember what that a and that e combination is. I pulled up an article and it's like a Scandinavian vowel. Right. So there's there's a you guys I'll read out out loud. So one person on Twitter appeared to guess the pronunciation correctly because Elon Musk himself liked their tweet and they said X Ash Archangel because the tweet also showed a screenshot of a wiki page that explained that the a e is a ligature named Ash. And a 12 a 12 is thought to be in reference to the CIA aircraft Lockheed a 12, which was code named Archangel. Oh my God. He basically named his kid like Kingdom Hearts name. Right. The secret message memes that only he gets. I like I even I would be down if like the middle name was like the weird a thing. Yeah. Like that's like I guess I'm on the fence. It's like name your kid wherever you want, but also like please they're a human being. And like my like my my my real name is Kyrian. And that yeah. I had no idea. I really don't know that. What the fuck? I had no idea. I feel like I do carry a short for Kyrian. And it's like I grew up and that was like an interesting childhood. And I'm not like upset about it. My parents like it's not it's not a big deal. But like that wasn't awesome. I can't even imagine. Like what are you what are you going to do when you have a substitute teacher? You just go to class. Yeah. Maybe they just won't go to class because they're Elon's kid. Also true. Honestly, the amount of privilege in this child's life is going to be so great that like everyone already knows how to pronounce their name. The school that this kid goes to will probably have other X-Arc angels there as well. Other equations to solve. Was it Gwyneth Pacho's kids like Apple or something? Hey, Apple is actually a pretty common name. Is it? Okay. Well in the Philippines. Okay. I was just saying for a while Apple used to be like I can't believe she named her kid Apple. Yeah. Now Apple is like so normal in Vlaze that you were begging for someone to be named Apple again. The evolution from Apple was Blue Ivy and Northwest. And now there's X-Archangel apparently. So all this comes to Elon, please be a good person. Yeah. Think of your child. Take us to Mars and then stop. Yeah. So I don't think I don't think Grimes should be blameless as well. That's fair. It was probably her idea. Oh yeah. Grimes of the past, present and future. Grimes of whatever bad idea she had before. What if the doctor named the child that? Think of the design and they're like, Doctor, please just pick something. The printer had an error and printed an error code. And then they just went with it. I guess this is what we have to name her. Yeah. I'm sorry to dunk on a newborn. But yeah, I just so too. And we're already that newborn is already like way richer and more famous than any of us. So that is true. I don't feel that bad. That's hey. Yeah. Okay. Look, yes, I get it. Oh man. How do we say away from that? I don't know. I don't know. Oh man. We ran through a lot of things. What are we going to talk? I don't go ahead. I was going to I was going to talk about the video. I told you guys about this video, but it came out like right after last week's episode came up and we were talking about like struggling for productivity in the times of quarantine and lockdown. And I always forget the order of letters in his name is a GCP. CGP. It's AE X 12. CGP Gray who makes a lot of great YouTube videos, but he made a really good one about productivity and kind of like he used this metaphor of like everyone being in their own spaceship in suspended animation around the world. And you know, while we're in lockdown and how to keep the ship that is you running and the core, the power core being like mental health and physical health. And basically just like how you can physically compartmentalize that and like so that like when you're in like a specific space, you're doing a specific thing that is meant to help those two functions, the health, the physical and the mental. I highly recommend it. I put some of this stuff into practice and it's helped a little bit. So check out this video. That's awesome. I guess, I mean, that's a good way to bring this up. It's like, how's everybody doing this week? And we kind of really does change week to week, doesn't it? Yeah, it does. This last week was a little bit tougher. Ooh, last week was a big poo poo stinky. I did not like last week. Yeah, sometimes they're just bad. Yeah, sometimes they're just really bad. I don't feel like anything really changed. And maybe it's because maybe I don't take like stock of things happening around me as well as I should. I kind of just let things play out so that like I don't ever get to like emotionally up or down, which might be a problem in itself. But I don't know what happened, but I had been on a perfect streak of journaling every day and last Monday was the last time I did it. And like, I didn't mean to stop. It's just like so many of my entries had just become it's another day in quarantine. There's kind of what I did. Here's what's kind of going on in the world. That like I didn't really feel the need to like I guess do it last week. And I don't know, I can cheat it by editing the date and like keeping that streak going because part of the satisfaction is having the streak. But yeah, it's sitting at 118 days and I'm seven days behind now. So yeah, I should just pick it up again and like restart. I get that though. If I have a habit, I mean, this isn't, you know, I'm sure this is very common, but like if I have a habit and I drop it, it becomes like almost like this guilt that I dropped it. Yeah. And it's like a failure. And yeah, picking it up and just starting the failure again. Right. It's like, I almost want to just forget about it because then I won't think about the failure versus like just like, no, Kerry, stop, just do it. Just go do the thing and then you'll be that much better. And it's so easy for me to do. It's an app on my phone. So I have really no excuse. Like the last time I tried journaling, it was one of those line of day journals. So it was already low stakes. It was like five lines per day. And I made it to about mid-April as well. No. So before I stop. So. Probably wasn't a pandemic that time though. No, it wasn't. So no excuse that time. But yeah, I just need to, I need to get back on it again because it was helping like, you know, I try not to do anything specific. It's just, what am I thinking right now? Or like, what happened today? You know, did anything big in the news happen or something big personally happened or, you know, something frustrating? I just write about that. I write about the thing that happened. You know, I don't, I try not to like get into it too much. I try to treat it like kind of like the line of day thing. So it's not really more than like two paragraphs. But I just found myself like writing the same things over and over, which maybe I just need to mix up what I'm doing at home. Maybe that's a sign. Yeah. Yeah. Have you ever gone through and like, gone back to the beginning of the year and started reading through it? I did. Yeah. Yeah. Some good times. Fun stuff happening. Oh no. Okay. Maybe don't. Maybe don't. It wasn't recent, but I was thinking about like the last time I did it. And yeah, it was like, I went on a trip. I went back home to California and we went to Disneyland and went to a friend's wedding. And yeah, those are good times. When was the last time I felt joy? Hmm. Ah, March, whatever. And we go back to Disneyland now. You know, if I wanted to. I actually changed the way that I do my bullet journal just because of everything that's happened. There have been a couple of layouts because I watch a lot of YouTube videos where it's a lot of people who have like millions of subscribers. And all they do is like really lay out their bullet journal and teach you how to like write script and stuff. And yeah, I buy into it. So there is, they did a few layouts that I had changed the way I'd done it from the beginning of the year when I started making bullet journal. But then now it kind of was, it became really clear in the middle of like April or March that I don't even need the day by day calendar anymore. I don't need a week or a to-do list for the week anymore because it's kind of just the same. And so I had to change my journaling into something that's a bit more nucleus or kind of just like this cloud of ideas. And I don't even do anything day by day anymore. It's kind of just like, well, all right, I guess I'm just going back to stream of stream of consciousness writing because what's the point of having a to-do list sometimes if like I kind of just, I'm living day by day just by like doing that to-do list. So it's just, it's a different way of thinking now. It's kind of wild. Yeah. I wonder if like, when did you change this? Was it about like a week ago? It was, oh, I actually, I did it April. Okay. I wonder if that's just like the time of year where it's like, it's like, you're about a third of the way or a quarter of the year, quarter of the way into the year. And it's like, you've been doing the same thing. Is it just natural for you to like, want to change or like consciously like something needs to change, support to keep going and for it to feel fresh? So I wonder, you know, kind of like what you're doing. I wonder if I approach it in a different way, if that would help and make journaling feel fresh and new. I think that's interesting. Maybe I should try something like that. Yeah. That's interesting because I feel like, like this was part of a New Year's resolution until I watched this other CGP gray video that explained why New Year's resolutions are dumb and having New Year's is a better idea, which I also like to apply that. I could talk about that in a second. But yeah, so I was like, you know, it's always like, I made a promise to myself in January, you know, I got to just push through and instead of just like trying to stick to this like commitment of just doing it to do it, mixing it up and like, you're still doing the same thing and kind of giving it a refresh. Yeah, because it's the heart of the idea, not like to the letter exactly. It's like, yeah, you wanted to track your year. You wanted to be like more conscious of your thoughts. How you do that, that's not the important part. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. Maybe this is your new bullet journal. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So I have notes every week. Yeah. Actually, I'm very excited to do this podcast because it's like, uh, finally something new, something different. It is kind of neat that I have this in the middle of all this. This human interaction. Yeah. That's not a meeting. That's not a meeting. Yeah. Last week was all meetings for me, so I think that's why I was suffering. And thank God it's not making dumb jokes about fast food like other podcasts that some of us might be on. At least you get fed. Ooh, good point. It's barely food, Carrie. That's it's barely food. That's fair. I mean, at least you get to learn about Elon Musk and Grimes his child. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what he's like. Highlights. He sleeps down again at night now. Highlight of my day. My biggest issue with last week was just a reminder that breaks are really important even if you like what you're doing. Oh, yeah. That's true. We had to, uh, we're, basically last week we recorded our stay at home or work from home commentary for the Volume 7 disc, which was great. And it worked out fine. And I enjoyed doing it. I enjoyed the people I was talking with. It was all great. But that added like, you know, three and a half hours of stuff to my week. And because of that, like things were tighter. And I wasn't even necessarily working longer hours. We've been really great about that. But just not even like, just the way things shook out. Like I wasn't taking a break because like, oh, I wanted to finish this thing in between meetings or something like that. And by the end of the week, I was just done. It's just like your week got denser because of it. And even though you have fun doing it, you're still expensing that energy in that effort. And like, you know, even though you're not like, oh, I'm glad that's over. Oh, I was really dreading that. It's, you still like, you know, put effort into it. So, you know, even if it's fun, you're still, you know, tired after it. Yeah. It makes perfect sense. Yeah, especially when things get denser, like that's a good time to be aware of the whole life. As like a concert artist because like, I like doing art as like a hobby outside of work also. But if I'm like doing art already eight hours a day, it's like, oh, now I'm done with work. What am I going to do? That's not too tired. Yeah. So I've been like kind of burnout. I don't know if y'all wanted to talk about that at some point. But last year is definitely kind of like a burnout year. So I'm kind of glad this year I've taken more of a step back and doing more art direction, directing, directing. Sorry. But I definitely want to get back into the habit of like drawing for myself outside of work and like not putting pressure on myself to still be creative, I guess. Yeah. Okay. Like one of my things is, one of my goals is to fill out a sketchbook in one month. I'm saying it now so I can hold myself accountable. But it's a pretty small sketchbook. It's maybe like 70 pages. Hopefully with you I think in a month. Oh god. Maybe next year I'll do it. Yeah, I just want to get back to drawing and like refresh myself. I feel like kind of rusty after kind of falling off good habits. Yeah. Yeah, I kind of thought like doing journaling every week or every day would help me like become a better writer. But I feel like it's so extreme of consciousness and kind of short that it's not really a creative effort. It's more like a psychological check-in. Well, yeah, I feel like there's so much of writing. I feel like it's almost less about the writing and more of the editing that comes afterwards. Oh yeah. You know, like the... I'm not going to edit the whole proposal. Yeah. Well, it's so rare that like the first time you write a scene, like that's what it is. You know, it's about like learning how to... Like I don't feel like the end goal of being like a writer or anything is that just, oh, you just write gold perfect every time. It's like, how do you take feedback and look at your own and make it better? So yeah, it's like, yeah, I see what you're saying where it's like, oh, I'm writing more. I'm practicing that muscle more. It's like, but only a part of the muscle. Yeah. Yeah, it's not the whole process. Yeah. Yeah. It's so good. Yeah, I still see value in it. Oh, definitely. You know, on two fronts, the creative and the mental health. So yeah, I just need to get back onto it. But I've always wondered, Erin, like as an artist who works as an artist as well, balancing that hobby and work. Because I write for work. I rarely write as a hobby. It's not the thing I go and do at doodle stories and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, yeah, how do you balance it? Oh God, I definitely couldn't answer that because I feel like I'm still trying to figure that out myself. Yeah, I just don't have an answer besides me kind of taking. I haven't been as hard on myself as I have been in the past. Definitely, like after work, like maybe in the past year or so, I've been like, oh, like I feel bad for not doing art for like Twitter or social media afterwards. But lately, I'm trying to tell myself, okay, well, you're doing this really intensive job and you're still doing art. Even if it's not art for yourself. So I'm just trying not to beat myself up over it. I think that's super important. Like the first step. Yeah, because like when you mentioned burnout, like I feel like that's where it comes in for me is like people, you know, the word burnout gets thrown out around all the time. And you know, there's definitely the overworking part of it, but there's also the overpressure part of it. Yeah, yeah. And that's where I usually get it. It's like it's not always external. It's mostly me. It's mostly internally out. Yeah. It's just like I have to do it. And you know, I just got it. I got it. I got to get it done. I owe it to myself, you know, to work on this or something. And yeah, that's when you can just like, that's when apathy happens. And when you have that first thought of, maybe I don't really need to, that's when you know it's burned out. Yeah. You know, you're burned out and maybe, you know, going back to this journal thing, maybe that's what happened. You know, just holding myself to it too much and just stopped caring. I have been living where you're talking about right now. I honestly like, I, and that's like, it's exactly what you, I think, Jordan, what you brought up when I was talking about my last week was that like, I love what I'm doing. And it's not always fatigue. Like we are, as a team, like we're not crunching. We're not putting in overtime. We haven't in like a year and a half. Like we're, yeah, our hours are great. Work is great. Everyone's super nice. Like it's, it's been very good. But I've been doing the same thing for a very long time. And I also, yeah, I have like a lot of pressure that I put on myself. And like, honestly, like I, again, I think we, I'm going to keep caveatting this. It's like, I wish all this COVID stuff didn't happen. I'm excited for everybody to get back safely. I've enjoyed having to figure out how to record from home. Because it's been like a production thing that's been entirely different from my day to day. Yeah. Yeah. And it's something I still like. I like photography. I like film. I like audio. Like I like all that stuff. And I don't get to do it normally. So when it's like, Hey, can you figure out how to work from home? I'm like, yeah, I can do that. Yeah, let me get a camera. Let me do this thing. Like let me, I have this light. Let me use that. Like it's, it's sometimes I really feel like you just have to like completely step away from what you've been doing. Yeah. And I almost dive into something else. Yeah. You said you worked on like a tiny project at the, I was at the beginning of this year. It was. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm talking about. It was a pixel thing. Yeah. It was like a little pixel pixel art thing. And like it was just something like for a sales deal that didn't go through. But they wanted like a little sample of what was going to happen. And it was like, I don't really need to like do all this work on it. But like, I like did like a temp VO. I added it. Like I did, I did everything that wasn't like just my normal job. Yeah. And it was like, I did it because it was fun. And I kept doing it because I was having fun. And then like tossed over to Issa and she like animated it and did some of the art. And it was like, I don't know. It was like low, it was like a low scale production thing. And it was just kind of fun to mix it up and do something new. And like, I feel like that kind of recharge like my batteries and stuff. And yeah. So I guess, I guess like the core of it is just like changing it up really helps. Sometimes just like, like you got to, you got to recognize when it's happening. And then you got to like change it up. And so that when you go back, you know, it feels, it feels like you're ready to go back and you're actually looking forward to it. Yeah. I think one of the bigger things too is kind of learning to say no to a lot of things as well. I actually just had this happen today, funny enough, because I'm not supposed to be working. You had the day off. Yeah. Yeah. So why are you here? I said last week that I promised to be here. I just, I just really wanted to not think about work even though it's obvious. It's because you love us so much. Aw. You guys are great. You guys are my favorite artists. The validation. And I got a message asking if I could like be on camera again tomorrow. And this was in the morning. So I was like, oh yeah, sure. Tomorrow, just an hour sounds fine. And then I kind of spiraled after a couple of hours. Hence my like chip binge because I was kind of like, oh, I, I'm suddenly stressed thinking about this because I wanted to bake a pie. And I felt like suddenly just an hour of thinking about having to work and like put up my folding screen and turning the camera on and just making sure that everything's okay because I share an apartment now and like I have to be considerate of my roommate's time. So it's just a lot of these things suddenly I just got very stressed and then I had to tell that person like, okay, I should have said no in hindsight. I cannot work tomorrow because actually it's my job and I suddenly got very stressed about it and they're like, oh yeah, no, it's no problem. But I was like, oh God, I should have said no. It's, it's just that feeling of really, it's like you said Jordan being able to recognize it is so important to that process of making sure like you kind of give yourself that and be realistic with yourself. Yeah, and it's really, it really is just like a self-care thing where it's like you're, you're not doing it for any other reason other than like for yourself. Like, you know, your overall mental well-being, you know, and like just taking off some stress because like an hour recording isn't just an hour recording. As we know, sometimes it takes two, maybe three tries to get the intro right. Hey, all right. Look, you had me, I had to read something verbatim. I can't read. Okay, that's not in my contract. I don't even know if I have a contract. Probably, I don't know. It's okay, I did it. I messed up twice last week. No one knows that movie magic. But now, it's true. Yeah, it's a commitment and it takes like hyping yourself up to like, you know, be on, you know. Yeah, and then there's the hours of thinking about it later, wondering if you did a good job or not. Oh my God, we're- And then going to bed and replaying the whole thing in your head to being like a, and said that. We're an entire, this entire group is like introverts. So we all think the same way, which is why I know we all understand each other. Too real right now. I need y'all to stop. This call out, it's not right. It's okay, it's just me in a couple hours. No big deal. It's like a normal Tuesday night. Oh man, what's a race week look like? Can we, maybe we look forward in a positive way. Oh yeah. I am excited about the video games that I'm playing and I'm excited about some meetings I have coming up that I can't talk about. You son of a bitch. I'm going to look at your calendar, Kari. Work wise, I actually have some cool stuff I get to work on and involves writing, which I don't get to do a lot of these days. So do that. There is some personal stuff. One thing about the lockdown and like being home more is like I, for some reason I've had so many ideas for like new stories and stuff. Just like all projects, I just want to start them. I have a note in the notes app that's just like all the ideas. I should just like start one of those one day. That'd be a good outlet. That first step, yeah. Yeah, just literally start it. And non-work related, I feel like my Animal Crossing Island is like 98% where I want it to be. So all the day-to-day stuff where it's like, oh, I have to build the bridge or build the incline or move somebody's house and weigh the day. All that's done. Everything is where it's supposed to be. I just need like a couple more pieces of furniture. I have a list of like things I want to add to like certain spots and then it'll be done. But like, yeah, I feel like I can have people over now. The only people who have been to my island are Cole and Gus. Wow, that's a privilege. Yeah. Is what happened? Gus said, man, this looks like shit. And then after that you're like, well, no one. He actually liked my layout and really was like, oh, cool. And we went to the secret beach of the North Shore that every island has and we hung out there. It was really cute. I, hang on, this is really weird citation. I saw a thing on TikTok where somebody lined like 25 beds in a row and they just rolled down them. I saw one with the toilet lids lifting up as you walked down. It's so good. Erin, what are you looking for this week? Oh, well, before this I got asked to do some art things for some non-animation related stuff. So that'll be coming out Friday-ish or sometime next week, hopefully. And then started Watching Tower of God and a new episode comes out this week. And I'm excited for that. Issa, that was really good. Before Issa goes, the thing I wanted to tell you before the recording is that I started Watching Tower of God. Oh, damn, you think? Yeah, because you put a link. You put a link to it and I watched it like an hour before the recording started. I watched the first episode. I liked it. Oh, I am shocked. Yeah. Getting Jordan to watch anime. It's funny because I think we all commonly forget that Jordan actually watches anime. I will watch a anime. A specific kind of anime. I haven't gotten into an anime since Kill a Kill. But you wanted to kill a kill. Yeah. Interesting. I don't watch the Jojo's and I don't watch the My Hero. That was a fix. So I mean, it's so surreal and weird. It has the corny tropes of an anime that in the back of my head, I'm always like, oh, my parents would be like, so married before watching it. Yeah. That's horrible. Stupid corny Jojo. My mental image of Jordan is he watches anime that is mostly meme-able. But then I feel like you would need to watch Jojo's. Also true. Have you watched Jojo's? Meme City Central. I can't explain what it is that gets me into an anime or why I will keep watching one or whatever. I stopped watching Attack on Titan. I think I watched two seasons of that. I get that. I was like the hot shit for a summer. I was. Have you ever seen Space Patrol of Loco? No. What did you just say? Okay. It's a... I think you would actually... I don't think it's like Neo-Yokio because I really like Neo. I think you would like it. It's short episodes and it's very fast-paced and kind of meme-y. Yeah. Okay. You can watch it all within an hour or two. I think they actually released a movie version of it on YouTube for free. Does Aggretsuko count as an anime? I think so. I'm not holding on that. I love... Does Yu-Ki-Oh count? Wait, Jordan, are you going to continue watching Tower of Guns? Yeah. The way the first episode ends is really interesting. Maybe we should watch it or talk about it next week. Okay. Yes. I'll watch an episode. Oh, that's what Yu-Ki-Oh is looking for. Yeah. I have to watch the series cause. That's true. Yeah, Yu-Ki-Oh, what are you looking for too? I fell off a terrace, too. Don't fall off a house, Jordan. Sorry, I couldn't let that go. It's not necessarily a weekly thing as it's more this earlier this week. I've set a new goal for myself. And it's a combination of teamwork and lots of talking. But essentially I'm saving. I have to start saving money now. And that's weird to say, but it's kind of exciting. I get it. I'm going to look forward to kind of the next step for life things. Yeah, it's essentially you look at your empty house in Animal Crossing and you think about all the things you could possibly put in it. So that's the exciting part for me. That's what I'm looking for. Issa's getting a couch. Finally, after all these years. Yeah, she's been standing for so long. Her feet hurt. That reminds me of the yearly themed video. Yeah. So yeah, he talks about just sticking to I want to do X is setting yourself up for failure when you say you want to do X. You really mean generally it would be nice to get better at doing X or something. My resolution being I want to journal every day is me just being like, I want to take better track and record my year and how it evolves. Right. No, that's more general or having would example be like instead of saying, I'm going to jog every day. Like I'm going to live a healthier lifestyle. Exactly. Yeah. So it becomes like your yearly theme becomes health, you know, being more active. My my theme that I decided to go with was also financial and I wanted to better track all my spending and, you know, where, you know, what I'm buying and where the money's coming in, where the money's going out, like where can I cut back on stuff. And I used to use mint, which just does it all for you automatically. But that leads to complacency. So what I switched to was a spreadsheet where I input every transaction. Wow. More and that really helped. And yeah, I mean, I've been in a similar boat as you, Issa, when it's time to like meet a savings goal or a financial goal. And it is very satisfying when you get there. So I'm looking forward to you achieving that. Now, what do you do if you need four goals for your year? Like health and financial and mental health. That's what you're saying is what what if your life is a mess? Yeah. Hey, what if you're a fucking trainwreck? What do you do? What do you do then? What if you've just been putting things off for like, I don't know, nine years? Carrie, what did we say like about like the personal projects? When's the best time to do it? Just you just got to start. That's great. I'm going to go jogging tonight. There you go. You've inspired me. There you go. Or I'm going to play Final Fantasy XIV. We'll see. I'm going to run in Final Fantasy XIV. You can like get a treadmill and like jog while you play Final Fantasy XIV. That's true. Hey, real talk though. I'm going to play darts in Final Fantasy VII. That's what I'm going to do. But I can jog at the same time. We'll see how that goes. That's a great way to end it. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Yeah. Thank you everybody for checking this episode. We really like doing this both because we like talking to each other. And I mean, I've already gotten some messages of people saying that, you know, they've been wanting some of the show like this or like maybe it's helped them with the creative thing. So we I just think that's really cool. And we'd love to continue to spread that. So if you, you know, if you do happen to like this and would be down to share it, that would be really helpful. Yeah, tell your friends. Yeah. That was a nice way. Like, yes, please just tell your friends. Do it. Do it. Watch our show. Hey, your friends to watch it. I'll be the hype. Yeah, do it. 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