 First topic, NBA 2K18 is the worst 2K of all time. No, yeah. Alright, next one. Topic number two, 2K16 is the greatest 2K of all time. I need to talk to you. Uh-oh. What's your favorite 2K? Favorite 2K? Yeah. I'm gonna have to go with 15. I disagree with your opinion, cause... 16 was fun, but I just felt like it wasn't like... It wasn't like, it's fun, it's 15. Even though 15 had the demigods and all that running around the park, it was fun, cause it was like, it was lit. You also said that? This guy right here. Okay, 16 is the best 2K, but I agree 15 was more fun. That's a fact. Is that cap, or is that true? That's true. That's true. This guy made the game fun. Okay, a lot of the time, the reason the game is so fun is because it might be one of your first ones. And in the case of 15, it was the second year they had the park. And so of course that was fun. And my team was dope, of course. But the gameplay on 16 is unparalleled. Yo, in 2K15, if you got mad, you could literally just run behind the court and just launch it at the back court and it would get stuck for 15 minutes. Not only in 16 did Pro-Am get introduced, which I thought was the most fun year of Pro-Am. Hey, cut that out, all right? But park was really fun. They had those new parks in like 17. Play Now was fun. That was the year I played my team. My team was in its prime back then. So in my opinion, it's not even close. And I feel like that's the only game that challenges 11. All right, this guy's bringing up patches. Do you see this right here? Let's go in a circle. I wanna see you guys play with 2Ks. Mine is 16, clearly. 14. 17. 14. 18. 16. OK, OK. What about you? 16, bro. 16. You guys want to say 16? Timeout. Fax, he's being unhealthy. My opinion matters. No, it doesn't. We have timeout. That's a fact. Is anyone here a stretch bag? Go home. At least half of the people have a stretch bag. We carry these people. They don't win without a home. What's your record? Why are you doing that? What's your record? What's your record? What? What's your record? What? Can we all sit together? What's your record? Definitely negative. Negative, negative. NBA 2K11 is the most underrated 2K of all time. No, what? Are you serious? What? Oh, you did flex today. Hold on, I see that. Yo, show it off. Yo, how many ads? Hey, 2K11 is not overrated, but it is the most appreciated 2K ever. Isn't it? I think it was Jordan yesterday who tweeted saying, is it unanimous that 11 is the best 2K of all time? People thought that game is better than 16. So in no way possible is it overrated. Not only was it the second year they added my career, which is a game breaker. That was the year Mike Wang came back to 2K after going to NBA Live. Anyone who knows 2K history knows that's the reason why 2K came back. And that's why it was a go to 2K of all time. And if we're being honest, I had the crew. What else is there to say? But I mean, everything is subjective, but you're wrong. Anybody else disagree? 11 is the most underrated 2K of all time. I haven't played that far back, so I couldn't tell you. This one right here might be debatable, because some of you guys might not like him. Mike Wang is the most go to developer of all time. Why would you throw your phone? Do you want a history lesson? He left 2K, went to NBA Live. Realized that game was horrible. And over the years, he kind of became the spokesperson for 2K, and every time there's a gameplay issue, we just blame it on him because he's a senior debt. But if we're being honest, if he wasn't good at his job, 2K would look like NBA Live. I mean, I like Mike Wang. You might be right. But if you like jumping games like 18, I don't know. Does anyone disagree with that? Mike Wang, the most go to developer. I wouldn't agree, because it's like, if he couldn't fix Live, what can you do? All right. But that, yo, I don't think one guy's gonna say that game. I'm gonna be honest with you. It's gonna take a whole lot of people and money. And even then, it might be out of the question. Everybody talk real quick. Look that way? Look that way? This is sweet. You got that? Thank you. All right, I appreciate it. OK, some of y'all might hate this one. I think my career holds 2K back. Stop throwing your phone. Oh, he said that's facts. If we're being honest, think about the work that goes into it. Not only do they have to mocap for every level, they have to design the level for every cut scene, but even once they do that, there's more work. There's the voice acting. They're paying Idris Ilba and this person and that person because it's what sells the game, I get it. But think about all the other modes that could be fucking amazing. If they just spent that same time on that, not saying my career shouldn't be in the game, but if we're being honest with each other, it takes a lot of time for them to make that kind of mode. If they were to take that money and put it into something else, then you would just complain that my career wasn't good. You know, we all wanted to have our player, our career, but if we was putting that same money in my team, you're gonna be like, what about me? You know, I wore my storyline that, you know? So I feel like my career, you know, I think my career is good. You can't give up. You can't give up. I'm not gonna lie to that. I feel like you felt that one, yeah. Scenes, I remember I was like, damn, I can't wait. So we have some cut scenes in PlayStation 4. You don't have Netflix at home? Why you wanna watch cut scenes? I feel like Park took away from my career to be honest. I love Park. I don't wanna get you wrong. I don't wanna take out the game. I don't wanna take out the game. I don't wanna take out the game. Like, Park took away from my career in terms of like he said, like the past generations, it was just my career. We didn't have Park. So back then, you're like, you're grinding my career. You're actually playing it like it's fun. I think 2K14 is one of the most overrated 2Ks of all time. I did it for you this time. What you thought? What you gotta say? That game was amazing, bro. Cause it was broke. That's why it was amazing. Cause you see, I had like a my career build and he was like a 95. He had 993, 99 dunk, everything. He was the most overpowered. So it was funny to go in Park and just boom on people and train threes. So that's what made it so fun. It's not overrated. It's underrated. He's one of the better 2Ks. Okay. There was no squad spots. You had to really find people to get it. You had to message people and be like, Hey, can you hop off? I wanna play with my squad. 2K14 felt like it was good because 2K13 was horrible. And for being honest, 2K13's gameplay was, I'm, yo, if 18 wasn't so bad, it would be the worst of all time in 2K. If I was just near the rim, it would just force me under the net like this. So I can get dunked on every time. I honestly feel like 2K14 was a good game because it was the introduction of the next-gen graphics. You had your clients pull up and stuff like that. Then you had, you can come to the park, score, not have to worry about records and things like that. So it was like a casual 2K where you don't really have to worry about sweats, like not getting games because you're too scared to pull up on somebody with a good record or something like that. When I go back to my 16 videos, it's scary how people just play. Like they didn't think about how good you were. It was so easy to get games. But the reason I think 2K14 was overrated is because it was next-gen, it came with way better graphics. So it had all the hype. Plus people were tired with the current gen. And so you just came off 2K13, anything is gonna look good. But a lot of people come at me saying 4K14 is one of the greatest. Oh my God, hold on. Stop right there. We had a lot of people talking about this park rep stuff, man. And I think the 99 rep system was the best. Does nobody else agree with me? I agree, bro. Whoa, whoa, whoa. I didn't expect nobody to agree. There you go. Road to 99, baby. He thought he was gonna get gas. He thought he was gonna get gas around that. When I go for a long 12-minute quarter game, I want to come to some cussies. 2000 losses. Oh, man. Dribbling takes no skill. All right, bro. He gave us something good. I spend hours and hours in my micro every day. Is this true or fact? He does. He refused to come to my house yesterday because he wanted to dribble on 2KU. Like, I could literally teach my little pets how to do that. Raise your hand if you've witnessed agent just zigzag on a pure sharpshooter. That is pathetic. People time and put together and master the craft of dribbling instead of seeing you do this. All right? If you can't do momentum, you can't make this argument. But I can't do that. iPod taught me. Sorry, iPod. It was just too good to pass up. Keep it real with you, Davis. I'm gonna keep it a stack with you. I do not like the dribble guys. I can't stand them. You regard, you got all the dribble moves. I understand that. But there's gotta be some kind of realism to the dribbling. Like, I'm sick of seeing the ball not touching the ground because you're flicking the stick. Left, right, left, right. Doing this. If there is going to be a skill gap, it has to be something that you learn how to do. Do you live with latency as a skill? That is a skill. That's a fact. Right there. If we're being honest. What is? Being able to time your jump shot with all kinds of latency. Hey, raise your hand if you're a stretch bag. He's a stretch bag. Hey, that's a hybrid count. Yo, why are y'all ashamed? Why does nobody want to raise their hand? Ah, y'all boys! I got one more question left. I forgot it was. I was trying to be like, Dave is too much. I think that it's OK for Mike Wang to change the game as many times as he needs to if it's for balance. Because a lot of people get angry when he changes it. But what, you always want to play with two bigs all year? I agree. Why didn't you do that? Yo, why didn't you do that? Yeah, because Mike does not necessarily know what he's doing sometimes. Respectfully, I like you, Mike, a lot for real. But if he just decides, you know what? I think that post-score should just elbow people more. Then that change would have been made. And the community would have nothing to say about it. I do not think he should be making those decisions exclusively by himself. All right. But remember when the community got involved and they took out winner takes ball? And then we decided we didn't like that and we got it right back. Right, but we didn't have it for months because the community decided. Sometimes you've got to learn the hard way. What? Hey, I'll get him out of here, bro. So if the game doesn't come finished, because it rarely ever does, then it should. They should really be on top of the thing, right? And you guys play prime, at least remotely competitively? Yeah, I did. Isn't it so frustrating to play the team with three lockdowns? That should not be the meta. But because nothing changed, hold on. He said, I'm a lockdown defender. I like what we do. So playing the team with three, you can't score. So we're going to do what we've got to do. That's the whole point. Exactly. It was always that cheese, pure lockdown build. And you put a specific jumper on. And they score with no problem. But yeah, you locked me down. You put some of the sneeze on me. I'll stop moving. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know how frustrating it is. He's not lying. To me, it's unfair. And just like I'm agreeing with agent when he said that, there needs to be some kind of balance. Because there's no way you're going to be a pure lock and you still have the ability to score at will. You score more than me. Yeah, because they can shoot from the, I see it here from the high. They're here from the high. How is that going to appear a lock? Going to be able to shoot three is no problem. I'll give it, I'll say out of 10 shots, out of 10 shots, this man by the pool. I'm offended by something you said. Why y'all acting like they just literally shouldn't be able to shoot and he's going to make a shot. Exactly. You don't leave somebody. Bro, they're shooting from the hash. I see this topic has enraged a couple of people. There's a lot going on here. Yeah, there is. Yeah. So how I feel about this. You said a pure lock shouldn't be able to shoot. And you a soccer and slasher. So you should never get a steal or never get a block because you're not a defender, right? Right, right. With lockdowns, you got to, I'm a sister that NBA game also compare lockdowns to any real life lockdowns like Kawhi, Paul George. They're not going to get a lot of superstars though. He's talking about superstar lockdowns. You said the top two players in the league, but you got to understand, you were with 95s, 96s on the park. But if you check that, what is Paul George in a macro game? It was like a 96? He might be like 112. What I'm not understanding is, as a lockdown, as a glass cleaner, how can you hit more full whites than I can as a pure shot creating guard? I'm going to say this, I'm going to say this. If your open three is out of 87 and mine is out of 50 and I'm making more to you, that's purely timing. That's all you. This guy came to my house. We're all doing shit. He literally went to the computer by himself to play 2K19. This is a week ago. I think that the 2K19 system with the neighborhood is better than when they had three different parks. Wait, say that again? I'll give it to you again then. I'll give it to you again then, but no. All right, let's be honest. Cause what's the thing with the parks? People like three parks cause they want to keep it fresh. They want to rotate. If they're switching the day, like they're changing the setting of the day every hour. There's four different ones. And they have park events every other day or every week or whatever. If there's a healthy rotation of events, 19 was good, they could do better. Then I would much rather have that 19 system than sitting there waiting five years to go to sunset beach and then nobody's there. I don't think 2K should be a yearly launch. A lot of what they spend their time on is different ways to promote the next game. So even if it's not a useful feature, if they feel like it's gonna get people excited, they'll spend time on it because they'll sell the next game. Can't get mad at them. That's how business works. But at the same time, if it launched one time, then the same way Rainbow Six or League of Legends or any of these other games work, you could just release stuff in season. So if you have content, you're not holding off until the next launch, you could just drop that content. I could say it's like Apple. So Apple has iOS updates all the time. You can update the iOS as much as you want. But when you drop that new phone, everybody's excited about it. But you're talking about hardware versus software right now. I'm just saying, I'm saying like, so for 2K 19, you can do as many updates as you want, but then when 2K 20 drops, everybody's gonna come back to it. Hey! Let me stop before I get kicked out. Hey, we're doing some trivia. This side is true. This side over here is false. You can walk to whatever side you feel like is the correct answer. The final like five or so people will call it when I run out of questions are gonna get 2K 20. I have to grab you guys information, right? All right, Allen Iverson was on the cover of three NBA 2Ks. True or false? Good job, y'all. I'm going to this side. Two, one. You find it. God damn, that's false. What are y'all doing? What are you doing? Damn! Yo, I just, I just, I just, I just finished it. You would have won the first round. What do you mean? Okay, so you guys are eliminated for now. We're gonna run it back in a moment. I knew it in my mind, but everybody followed you. You would have given me all of it. Oh, you would have given me all of it? No, I was joking. All about it. Kevin Garnett was on the cover of NBA 2K9. True or false? You guys have correct on this side. True, Kevin Garnett was on the cover of NBA 2K9. This side is eliminated. This side is done. Spike Lee directed the story mode for NBA 2K15. True or false? He just did a joke. All right, this side is right. False, he directed the 2K16 story mode. I knew that. I knew that. Last year, if you're prior to 2K19, the game released on September 7th. True or false? The answer is true. NBA 2K9 was the first 2K with the my career mode. True or false? You see the way you fall on the cover. He might win, you never know. You guys are all correct. False, it was 2K10. Last year's 2K Launch Community Day was in New York. True or false? The answer is true. They have one in LA, but that was a couple months before. The launch one was in New York. The side wins. You gotta run. I thought this one was... That's false. I think he knew though. Davis completed high school. True or false? He's trying, you know. You're all eliminated. Hey, y'all all got it right. It's my fault man, I couldn't not put that in there. He's just lying to the masses, it's crazy. True or false? Agent sweats in every video. NBA 2K17 was the first 2K to introduce the double archetype system. True or false? Is it your final answer? Yes. You're right. Not gonna lie to you, I'm out of questions. Okay. Give me like 30 seconds to formulate one. I know. Kobe Bryant was the highest overall in 2K10. He was a cover athlete, anyone in championship. Kobe Bryant was the highest overall in NBA 2K10. True or false? I'm gonna hold it, wait. It's true? I'm looking at it now. Give him 5 seconds. You said what? I said I'm looking at it now, I don't know. The answer is true. This side is eliminated. Kobe Bryant was one overall high in the bronze games and that's because he was a better player. Unjustified. That's false. Man, come on. That's false. Hey, true or false? This is for everybody real quick. Ronnie 2K is the worst community manager of all time. Yo, you're never going back to community day. Hey, listen, this is what the community is saying. I didn't tell them what to do. Yeeeaaah. That was a dope video. I'm not going to lie to you guys a few questions but then you guys got warmed up and you're getting into it. But I'm going to do some shit like this in the future. Hey, thank you guys for watching the video. 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