 Let's say the breakfast and plus CV Africa we sincerely apologize for bringing you off the press a little bit behind schedule due to some technical issues but we're up and running now we have Ezekiel Nyaituk who joins us via phone this morning. Ezekiel it's good to have you join us this beautiful Thursday morning. Thanks for having me it's a wonderful morning. Alright then let's let's go through the daily independent ASU Federal Government Committee my perfect fresh agreement soon. ASU Federal Government Committee my perfect fresh agreement soon that's what you have boldly written on the daily independent and federal government says ASU strike more complicated than initially anticipated. Sounds like a what clay right there. Well three airlines may collapse as aviation fuel hits 710 nair per litre. I mean you also have the association saying there's a tendency of having a thousand five hundred now in the next two weeks if government does not intervene. Fuel marketers handling coils and lament for for excursion. International Monetary Fund projects Niger's GDP growth at 3.4 percent inflation to remain elevated and possessing power for that erodes as inflation heat 17.71 percent. We're talking about double digits almost eight years running. A dark horse may emerge Tunibu's running mate is a figure of speech I'm sure you want to figure that out. Party settles for northeast candidates Muslim Muslim ticket. Tunibu needs Muslim Muslim ticket to win election. This is what Carlos Quota to say and electoral act reps to debate motion to override Buhari's veto on section 84 subsection 8 and 60 days extension of voters registration. NMMP 45 local firms jostle for four million litre supply contract and NSC DC deploys nine thousand seven hundred and a forty seven personnel for a kitty guba polls. You also have impeachment 24 lawmakers signed notice to impeach or your deputy governor. We have not announced articles running mate that's what the PDP is saying. We move away from the daily independent a quick look at the nation and on the nation. Last-minute intrigues in PDP over articles running mate anxiety among party chiefs over choice. Aviation fuel hits seven hundred and forty nine per litre as petrol queues returned and or your assembly slams misconduct charges against deputy governor. PDP are the show Niquiti peace part sign in and BS puts inflation rate at seventeen point seven one percent. And just before we take our attention from the nation newspaper this morning issues and varsity union strike complicated says minister government as it talks ongoing and our monarch to invoke curses on Catholic church attackers. OPEC reports Niger's oil outputs decline. It's a lot of trouble for a lot of experts would say but that's it on the nation and we have the leadership newspaper this morning. I just been reporting almost differently but some similarities with the headlines. Twenty four hours to iron a deadline. North East. North West lobby to noble for running mate and PDP screens vice president candidate today. Niger's inflation soar to new height of seventeen point one seven one percent. Niger's inflation soar to new height of seventeen point seven one percent strike. Asso issues more complicated. The Nigerians think the federal government is quartered and that what could it be. On bill those behind our killing Senate tells security agencies and bandits suck eight KB and Niger villages and kill thirty three and doc thirty your base senatorial ticket. Why I wouldn't step down for one. You have you know. Beature courted on that. And that's the much we can take this morning but just before then reps move to override president Muhammad Dabawari on electoral act amended will look in at section eighty four. If I'm not mistaken subsection eight. That's the much we can take this morning on the leadership and we have the punch this morning. We K. O'Coa face panel today. Camps fight over articles vice president slot. I think who needs vice president that can help secure Niger from APC or cause aid insist. We can structure will give article victory ex-revers commissioners quoted an APC may unveil to noose vice presidential candidate today amid Muslim Muslim ticket controversy and Buhari orders or OK's the TNC's on bond link neck orders five thousand megawatts delivery. July the first. I mean for a population. What are we looking at now. Over two hundred million people. Five thousand megawatts. OK. Our lawmaker's starting judgment on one point seven billion dollars Malibu scam case. That's what the federal government is quoted to say. And varsity lecturers orders spend seven hundred and nineteen days on strike under Buhari only Lagos Delta Caduna two others pay pensions. Pencom is quoted to say it is really saddening if this is something to go by. You say Lagos Delta Caduna and two others pay pension and seventy airlines filled in Nigeria. Three may collapse soon. The A. O. N. is quoted on that. And just then a kitty governorship candidate signed peace pact to cod and N. S. D. C. deploys nine thousand seven hundred and forty seven pass now inflation surges again and hit seventeen point seventy one percent amid the rising price expert call for action as monkeypox spreads to fifteen states. Or your lawmakers begin moves to suck deputy governor or massacre. You have Senate demands raid on killer's hideout. River's woman sells sister baby four six hundred thousand. That's what please are a suspect. Extend voter registration deadline reps urges INEC. These are the headlines this morning on some of the front pages of a national dailies. Is it going to I took us as with us this morning and it's good to have you join us once again. Thanks for having me. All right is it going to lessen off with the daily independent. The federal government. As you committee may perfect your fresh agreement soon. Now on the other back you also have the federal government says that the strike is more complicated than initially and dissipated. Some of these headlines have reported this but your thoughts on this as you and the federal government's you know issues and disagreement. We're looking at seven hundred and fourteen days right there. Do you think that this is rocket science. Is it impossible you know to get to some form of agreement and settle this issue once and for all. No it's not rocket science at all. There are two issues involved. One is insincerity and the second one is lack of commitment to good governance and those two put together have kept not just us not just the university system but Nigeria where we are today. You know a lot of times we forget that the universities are research institutions where they have facts and data because research boils down to facts and data and statistics on a lot of issues information and things in this country. They know about the monies that come into the country. They know about how these monies are spent. They understand the lack of sincerity or purpose on the side of government and they're like we are no less important than you are. Every time we have to shift for you and this time it's come to a point where we can't take it anymore. I happen to be directly involved in it in the sense that my elder sister is a professor and I know what they are going through and we sit down we talk and they are willing to be understanding to the extent that government is willing to be sincere but so long as government remains insincerity it's a game of two can play and unfortunately the losers on the long run are the young people so I think that government should stop playing the ostrich. What makes it complicated? It's very simple put all the cards on the table let this man understand your financial situation and also listen to him when he tells you you are spending money here that is unnecessary it can be cut and put here you're not prioritizing us. You can get money for your for defense and all all sorts of insecurity that is a lot of times considered to be contrived and money is going there but where you need to have what will be able to build this country and give us a better nation tomorrow you don't just care about it education is not a priority to you so these are the things that are not on the table it's like everybody knows what the other pair which is typical of what playing the ostrich is all about it's not rocket science it's not very difficult it's just that there is a high level of insincerity on the part of government and lack of commitment to good governance and the fundamentals of you know developing a country. All right Jessica we also have consent on the daily independent newspaper talks about three airlines facing the possibility of a collapse as aviation fuel hits 714 Naira per litre you also have an association saying there's a likelihood that you know in two weeks time diesel might just be going for a thousand five hundred Naira again this is no rocket science what is the problem we have the crude and we send it out the diesel comes from the crude the aviation fuel comes from there for seven years the same problem has persisted are we not thinking about the solution that is sustainable now is anything coming as a shock or a surprise to us the answer is no secondly when you talk of a business that business is either social service or it is a commercial enterprise that you undertake for your profit the business of government is to set the enabling environment for businessmen to thrive and based on that influx the economy aside from that provide employment very fine government that don't understand this dynamics and fundamentals in running government and governance because of strategic importance a lot of times government needs to be able to intervene for social services now flying should buy rights be something that is either an emergency or a luxury i for one i live in a quiet bomb state i do a lot of business in delta state i have no business flying to delta state because within how many hours three i should be in delta state from a quiet bomb three hours but i can do that every time i have to go to delta state i fly from uyo to legos abuja and then i fly to asaba from either legos abuja can you imagine that because of two reasons one the roads are not good two the roads are not safe in the past seven years are we not aware of these two problems the nature of the roads and the safety on the roads today we are sitting and talking about apcpdp running made presidency are those the issues are we not listening to who will give us a sound bite of what governance is all about i think we'll get to that point by the concept of aviation fuel there should be what you may call cost reflective pricing anybody wants to fly should look at the cost and we can't we subsidize a fuel for for diesel we subsidize petrol we now subsidize aviation fuel we subsidize napa or power holding and yet we have no money we are a fake country and we need to stop do the things we can do this a giant of africa we're trying to live up to our image when we do not have the resources the competencies the capacities we do not put square pegs in square holes round pegs in round holes so that we can have a country that works we're playing politics i think the time has come when we should stop and have a total reset and ask ourselves what do we want and this is our time and the media should help us to concentrate on leadership recruitment for the next dispensation and not talk about party look at all the headlines who is going to be the running mate who is going running mate of who of the most competent of the biggest can you imagine we are talking of running a country look at our sister and gosy okonjoy weala when wto wanted to recruit a ceo look at the the processes that went rigorous rigorous processes rigorous processes and is wto bigger more important than the biggest black nation in the world i think the time has come when we need to really stop and think so all these problems that are coming up whether the airlines will collapse or not you want to do business you've got to understand that you are going to work on the fundamentals of the business you do all your pricings and plot different i took i mean is it that we're leaving out the path that we probably wouldn't be having this conversation we understand that right now it probably might just be a global concern in terms of you know the the cost of diesel or petrol however you want to put it because even in the united kingdom prices have actually gone up but of course other people would say the infrastructure or the basic things of life makes it a little bit easy for you know people to go about their businesses without necessarily feeling the impact because they have a good transport system but are we also leaving out the fact that if we we had we really should not have any business you know exporting our products and importing it back i think that you are really repeating where i started from so two of us are effectively on the same page i started with the fact that we have no business getting the crude sending it out and importing it you know back seven years down the line please tell me one concrete um and you know this has been a problem over the past 20 years as we are talking which of the parties which of the presidential candidate is giving us a sound bite on how to address this problem this is where our attention should be whether it is muslim muslim ticket whether the PDP is from the north and APC is from the south this should not be the conversation today the conversation should be Mr Dumebika Chiku yes you are in A.D.C. yes we've not heard from you but please tell us what are your programs and what are your projects all the different presidential candidates there's so much you know um fanfare about Mr Peter Obi amazing what are you putting on the table let us throw away parties and look at 18 human beings 18 and start to profile them and zero them down you know based on what we are doing zero them down to the people that are giving us a sound bite on the basic and fundamental problems of this country well i think that you and i are on the same page why are we importing this which is why we are having the problems and number two yes god you wanted to say something all right and on the leadership newspaper you have the yobai senatorial ticket and uh you know it seemed like there might just be an electoral issue or consent right there and he says why i won't step down for lawan akbat lawan basher machiner is quoted on that in the sense that he's saying that he he contested this election i mean unopposed however it was lawan it was lawan himself a senate president that gave us an electoral act that electoral act is very clear on processes of becoming candidates one you go through the primaries and you are elected once you are elected you cannot be substituted you cannot except on two grounds ground number one that the person dies ground number two that the person willingly withdraws without these two grounds you cannot the party cannot unilaterally like they used to do before substitute somebody that was brought about by mr lawan himself now he wanted to be president and he didn't fly and he now says you know there's a story let me just quickly tell you the story of a dog that had a bone in his mouth and went to the river and saw a reflection of another bone the bone was dancing it looked bigger and all that so he threw away the small bone and dived into the river to pick the bigger bone and he spent all this time and when he was tired he said rubbish bone go and sit down let me go back to my bone by the time he went back to pick the old bone one good dog had already come and carried the bone and gone away so he lost because of the greed of picking a big bigger bone instead of being contented with the bone he had in his mouth i think that that tells my position and disposition mr lawan she does go and rest if you cannot be president or vice president if you know that there are the three cities of life the chances that come your way the choices that you make and the consequences of the choices that you make the chances the choices the consequences he had a chance he made a choice and he must live with the consequence 23 years after one would be asking i mean what exactly you know you should probably take the back seat but of course electoral acts electoral acts you have reps debate motion to override boharis veto veto on section 84 subsection eight that's what you find that's on the you have that on the daily independent and on the leadership newspaper it also talks about it as well it talks about you know that pat of the constitution reps move to override president mohammed bohari on electoral act amendment do you think that this you know this the members of the house of representative have what he takes so do you see you know the wheel and the strength to push through with this motion to the very first thing is i don't know why they should waste their energy on that for a simple reason that the processes have already gone that's going to be for the next set of elections and all things like that and actually that the president failing or refusing to sign that i think i think it will eventually come back to be it's eight o'clock passed again for two reasons one is unless we go back to direct primaries which is someday i'm going to take up with inek as a life ambition for them to set templates for direct primaries that is what is going to stop all this you know a lot of times the reps people what is interesting to them is that they want to be delegates so that they can go and make the money that people are making they were so upset that they didn't they were not delegates and the money that was being shared they were not part of it so i don't think that they will actually override mr president for two reasons one is that their self-preservation is always paramount and they are not sure if they will come back and as a result you know those that are coming back may want to fight for it those who are not coming back may just look at it and say let it fly let it go rather so i really don't see anything whether they override or they don't override is one issue that really does not catch or sustain my attention now that's quickly as we begin to you know um uh co-set down on the punch newspaper i mean there's several interesting headlines and we're hoping that we have your perspective and thoughts on this one it talks about you know the pension years and you're having pencom saying that only legas delta and kaduna including two other states pay pension is it going to i took what do you make of this number one i think it um the maybe i don't know whether it's from the headlines or from pencom they are being mischievous if you've listed three you could as well as the five states that's the way i look at it because now once you learn two other states it's just like you go for election pray that you don't have one vote have zero the moment you have one vote everybody's like i was the one that voted that one vote for you so you are better of having zero and nobody talks to you and because one of my friends was telling me that he had about 39 votes but the text messages he has had is over 300 honorable you know i supported you know i voted for you and he had 39 votes meanwhile he has over 300 so when you say legas delta and kaduna and two others every governor is going to say i'm one of the two others so they should have just listed the two other states i understand i understand the argument of two others but i'm sure that beyond the headlines if you if you go through it it probably might just be mentioned at the end of the day but let's talk about the fact that we have 36 states including the fct and we're talking about just five states at this point not necessarily being very i mean so what what happens to the 31st if i'm not mistaken it's one of the things that i've taken up with these people all all along and that is that you walk they don't prioritize the retirement of of people who have worked all their life because the pension scheme is a management scheme for retirees that's why it's pension you know and all your life you have worked understanding that at exit this is the strategy for you but now governments they constantly deduct all these monies from the workers to the best of my knowledge so i think that nlc should really sit on every state government and be part of the remittances and be part of the management of of of pain come and and them you know the remittances basically and then be able to secure because one day they are going to fall into that trap themselves i think it's you know unacceptable by any standard or stretch of imagination if you say that your state is not part of it make it clear to the people that your state is not part of it and maybe have your local right but if it is by law then we should be a law abiding country and i so far i've not um apart from the time of minor i've not had on a general basis of um general abuse of the pain in pain come you know funds and things like that in Nigeria to the best of my knowledge so i think that governors should be held and made to account for for the deductions that we're making by the workers okay interesting let's see how all of this unfolds as we proceed but it's just a very very uh saddening i mean it is saddening one would only imagine what um these these persons who have actually worked uh and they're deserved as it's their right it's the entitled to it and you you have them being deprived if this reporters anything to go go by it's it's it's quite saddening and it's inhuman it's it's almost on i mean one would say it's not very fair but we're hoping that the right of authorities would uh you know look into this and come up with a solution is it going to there are too many issues right here from the issues of you know past supply it feels like we'll just have to grapple with whatever to go through now the president okay is the tcn to unbondling of a neck and orders 5000 megawatts delivery in i mean we're talking about july the first right now 5000 megawatts to be delivered we're looking at over 200 million Nigerians what difference does that really make and why should we be grappling with you know 2000 megawatts 3000 as the giant of our you know there there are there are conversations that the media should look into for instance uh i i'm in a gc um in fact as we speak i'm actually at the airport on my way to a kitty to campaign for a candidate you know a gc candidate but i would say this as an analyst some days back we saw uh peter will be you know boarding to go to i think it's egypt to find out how what they did now that's the sort of thing that we should put pressure on every single person who wants to be president for instance the the presidential candidate of a gc yesterday mr kachiku it was a major team set up because of the large networks across the world on power now he's going to be able to tell Nigerians what he's going to do this are the sort of sound bites we want to hear don't i don't want to hear all this or maybe the next we'll bring another five megawatts and things like that in a country when you know what is going on in other countries it's not rocket science so we need to start to put pressure on everybody that wants to be the president everybody all this is your big part this small party has to come to an end but but is it going to i took i'm sorry because we have to go in no time the question now would be is it that we don't understand what the challenge is uh you know what we're faced with we understand what the challenge is don't we understand the troubles with the past sector in nigeria do we need to go under study all the countries to understand what is going on in our past sector you don't go to understand what is going on i heard that your hairdresser makes your hair really fine so i come to you and say please who is your hairdresser because i want my own to be as good so if you are not going to understand we're going to see the solution and these solutions are generic they are not location-specific power generation is global if israel could solve theirs if egypt could solve theirs if south africa could solve theirs how did they do it bring the people in solve ours and we move on you don't need to reinvent the wheel that's what it is we understand exactly what's going on in our past sector it's just that like you mentioned in the course of this conversation you talked about sincerity it probably feels like it's an ingredient that we really lack and that's also hampering on other sectors of our economy but that's that's the much we can take this morning thank you so much for your perspective this morning on the headlines we look forward to sharing more of your thoughts as we proceed in the course of our shows on the breakfast thank you once again is it konyaita thank you god bless you it's been wonderful thank you all right then that's the size of our conversation this morning we always come through with the papers looking at the front pages and bringing your great insight analysis with a great analyst right here we will return tomorrow in the meantime let's take a break and tell you what happened today in history stay with us