 him. Yo, let's go. Yo, yo, let's go. Hello, Jim. Welcome to Taffy TV. Yeah, it is the afternoon live manager latest transfer latest House of Commons latest folks of which nothing going on in anything. Yeah, we are we basically just rumors and speculation and and Bielce still seems to be the the number one guy. Um he wants apparently wants assurances on everything they're going to buy fast players. Okay. Okay. Um you bought though, wasn't it? Yeah. You bought it. We all we buy like players and then he goes, no, I don't like them. See you. I'm going. I was reading a bad news morning when he went to Leeds. Like they went, they made them fly to you as you seen it to speak to him and all that. Give them all a plan at the plans of the training ground and we're like, yeah, this needs to change and all that. If you give them the plans though, didn't he? He gave them as they got there and I mean it's this and they were like, what what's this here? I think they'll just be like, you want us to do what? We've gotta spend what money? No, thank you. Bye bye. Heaven would have an internal review to how we found the blueprints but it would never be published. It's saying glad you did basically glad you didn't say anything because you're all up before we went live. Okay. Ned with his big boy pants on and Ned with his big boy pants on tell me what to do. Yeah, we all let's go which is why. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we're just chatting Jen. We knew you were waiting. We knew you were waiting for us. Yeah. As they said, I didn't That happened once. I remember when the mic was up once and someone said something and not us. Not us. No, someone else. Not the racist and um yeah. It took a while to get rid of it off the channel. Class. Uh obviously yesterday, there was um flying into the uh like a wrecking ball, didn't he? Into the running. Full mileage. You know, even popped up on our 1878 FM pod, didn't he? In the through show that um he was there. Obviously, Dice is there. John Dice is there. Um apparently you turned it down or for some reason people still thinking he's on the go now. I'll be running around the Alps only now. I mean, two of them, you know, Bielsa was shocked. Passenger. It's mad. Um It's a desk always in the running. It doesn't say I mean, don't forget as well. We have to. We do have to take this list with the pinch of salt as well though by the way because for all you know Kevin Thelwell I'm sure is working away in the background and he'll have an idea if he wants and he'll be looking at it that way and he can sit there and smear for all these names you know that are getting thrown out there if they you know really anyone could say anyone's in anyone's in I think the running couldn't be Ben says die show big dunk you know who's to say dunk isn't in the running you know are no club enough doesn't have to pay anyone have to pay anything for them I mean Gary Ben says lads do you think we could be the first club to die of embarrassment we not have already happened though they took a few hits yesterday yesterday was yesterday was a crazy day ever money it was a crazy day it was peak ever and everyone let us know crazy it was we were getting statements about selling and not selling simultaneously incredible the statement was not selling though was made a week before Thursday Thursday so five days before the video came out he said it wasn't a weird video wasn't it like it was a weird video like it was like they were in the same room but they were in the same room it was like it was like it was like they sent Ned to film it I'll tell you what it looked like and I don't think this is what happened but it looked like basically they just got you asked questions to nobody yeah yeah that's what looked like and he just gave my father the thing and he went well so that's the afternoon busy at the moment and he just answered jazz's question to nobody that's what it looked like so I don't know whether it was a conversation or it was just jazz being asked but jazz was there he was there obviously met he was obviously spent some time together they feel like that it was a very strange even the sand on them yeah it was different so it was a bit weird but maybe they got I don't know I'll speak to jazz but maybe they got um maybe they got jazz to redo his questions very much like you had to do it you do it don't hear it it the thing happens doesn't it sometimes but and people have to go with jazz but not with jazz it took questions from the fab and he just asked the questions and he's not he's not a interviewer is he he's not somebody who does it all the time he's sat with far atmosphere you no one really speaks to so it is gonna it is gonna come across a little bit not a little bit you could see it was a little bit more because of the way it was the way it was just sat up because it wasn't it didn't feel relaxed because that's the way it looked the way he filmed it was a very strange choice of filming it like that I don't but I mean farad what did you what did you make at the time because I thought I thought he does come across like he really wants evidence to do well but I still don't believe everything I appreciate I appreciate that he did the interview I appreciate that he sat down and it went out on an ever ever youtube channel yeah I appreciate that I've got no issue with that but I thought it was fluff I thought it was just like like literally the first answer was like we've got 120 odd questions for you as we would that later we never actually answered anything important he just kept on saying things that he probably thinks we want to hear which is basically you know you know it was basically equivalent of it was the owner going I'll run for a brick wall for you I love this club you know he might as well just kiss the badge it was all it was it was all just fluff and enjoy the fluff enjoy the fluff and you know it was all we're doing this and you know just a couple of nice sound bites like it's never the fans fault and all that kind of thing but there's nothing in it really and ultimately as well the other side of the thing is and this is something we've spoke about quite often and when we do things or when we're planning to do things is it was recorded tasty loads has happened since yeah the world is a different place loads have happened last yes an hour before the video went out and that's the problem that's the problem ever ever and face but they shouldn't face it because this is what a modern new modern news organizations deal with every single day it's something we deal with every day it's like when we make videos we've got to make sure that would literally within the hour of it going out that you get all your all your other stuff promoting the video out because the world changes so quick yeah and that's in that since he's done that ever done that interview ever and I've lost to West Ham there's been he did a silly you know answer the silly question for sky so the Bill Kenwright the manager's being sacked and the center forward that he was probably alluding to is not signing for ever so the world is completely different and I almost feel like last night he put that video out because they couldn't put a video off I think you know there would have been a video going off at Danjuma last night yeah they had a slot available so they put that out and that's the other problem it's like record a thursday it should have gone out friday it should there should there's no reason to wait it's so badly edited anyway that it's not like they spent loads of time trying to make it all look fancy I don't understand if it was like it had made it look like cribs imagine I'm open the door hello hello Jim welcome to my house um and then he walks in showing showing jazz all his bedrooms this is my this is where I put my eighth manager the ninth manager that's Keir's bedroom there if you don't know then I could appreciate it but it was such a bad it was a badly edited video shut up you the mic shut up when we started don't talk to me old sound when the mics are up when we started when we started this life you're in charge of the intense oh no no it's the big boy pants hang on hang on no no no you know you know higher you're in charge of getting stuff ready and then you can go and sit on the couch and put your headphones on listen to camp with your sliders on you're i'm gonna bring in a shoe policy in this off you know you never got a you got two back seats I've watched you play footy John's in a bit and I don't know whether he's on a call I'm eating today but I would put you know the way like when we were in school you'd put the exercise book down you kept me you're going to get the cane I would literally think think about a putting something I just clarify I wasn't in school when you had Keynes wait you know no I was like the last I was like did you go down the pipe before you started I was the last girl the last year of the king he got banned when we were we were in those in face you seen is he got banned but yeah do you not have the ruler in junior school no it never because I went because I'm not that old this it no I know but no I'm not in your old this is the thing this is the thing I obviously this is why I'm not the way we are this is why you're so aggressive the aggression was Cain's army the aggression was full full force your dad this kid's watching going the king king what's that king the king the next one he's watching going that's got Cain then king lad so did I lad and the ruler the ruler you shall have to put your hand out like that you couldn't even have one you had to put one on top of your day and that had to go over like yeah they did they do five slaps there oh my god right and then your tips go for the tip of your finger did you have to know what dinner time did you have to go over and say please more please with the grill what's going on it's literally honestly five I only ever had it once the one time the second time was that was when the boat went down what did you have to came for we were talking in class this is a this is a no when we talked in class to put your name on the board I mean you caught you three times you sent you to I think I obviously probably happened twice and we got sent for the king well this is a this is this is the revelation we've all been waiting for we said didn't we we said what was happening today this has just come out of me everything broke me yesterday the cane story has come out today so back to Ned I'd be very careful because John Blaine was a man who was caned regularly I think and continues to still do it when he gets naughty it's easy to give him the cane yeah so yeah that video that video needed to really go be out Friday yeah no it did it's got a bit we say it's got to be out it's got to be because it goes doesn't it it's all right if it's a if it's far up and sure you watch your plan for the next two years then that's a different video but something when it's fast paced now everything's moving too quickly it's got to be everything's moving too quickly so yeah I thought it was something you know people will turn around probably mostly bots will turn around and go whoa isn't that what you were asking for well yeah it it won't be long it is what I'm asking for but to be honest I'm if I'm honest I'm asking for a Q&A with a with a with a you know a proper interviewer and that's no offense to jazz he's doing a great he's doing does works tirelessly as a volunteer you know for fab and dip before for the fans forum and he's a good lad jazz we you know spend a lot of time with him when we're in America in the summer and he's a he's a really good lad you know and I'd know I'd like to see I'd like to far I'd be sure to be challenged in a proper interview I'd like him to sit down with someone like Alan Myers and be challenged on things so he because obviously that's that's not what that was about that's not what happens when he goes on talk sport you need to you know they give an answer you need there needs to be if you ask the question gives an answer it needs to be there needs to be follow-ups and everything and that's that's not what that was of course I appreciate that um we need to know exactly what's going on because you're getting that and then you get Keir Joraban on this morning and Keir Joraban's basically protecting his own ass by going well it's not to do with me and you know getting all the names wrong he basically he basically it was like um he was coming at the board from Massey side blue wasn't he yeah do you know what I mean it was a full pro ever you know it was pro pro ever names rather than the yeah gone full e-football e-football though isn't that the worst thing about having a PS5 I want a good footy game and it's just you sit and you go I've got money get me remember that game you were making last year what happened to that three goals yeah also and there was just two crap me I'm annoyed I'm sorry FIFA's all right to a point but then if you come you're just after a bit you go it's crap it's crap you know why can't why can't you just get pro evo six on PlayStation five why can't you just do that can I just do it for me I just want to play pro evo fat pro evo two to six any of them any of them will do me anyway I yeah we digress we digress so there you go yeah what you've got a digress have you lost the point well if it's not but you getting keen then there you go and Ned Sliders Gary Waters howdy Terry McAllister says it good evening Jim it lines he says afternoon lads page on fellow blues what was your take on Massey's incident sorry you'll have to start including Jack and Jack as well now that Jack is a new man Jack's here as well you know tell us it's Jack give me Jack say hello there you go have you got the mic oh well then no I'm gonna oh my face real again what are you teaching these people channel five now yeah say hello say hello Jack salmon now put it back down that was yeah there you go you'll you've just learned something Jack there you go that's how you get into the show that is what it's about how you get on the bar is what it's all about yeah lions he says afternoon you have to start anymore no sorry what do you take on the interview and he's weighing on a plain home circle of trust kind of circle of trust while we're on youtube no can't come on that's toffee TV we've been talking about it listen Massey he's in it's difficult it's difficult because we do want them we do want them to say stuff of course we do yeah and some of the stuff he said was fluff some of the stuff he said was stuff you want to hear but it's all empty words without action isn't it you know I'll get I'll make the board stronger but yeah do it do it then why have you waited I'm getting investment well where is he get it well I'm gonna give money to the manager where's the money then where's the manager where's the manager for the start we've got a centre for we'll get a centre forward well where is he and as well as him get me a winger and an attack on me feel that which and if you sell that other winger to Newcastle then you're gonna need another one so you've got some going to to get these players in in the next six days haven't you and the manager um yeah it's a listen it's a it is a tough it's a it's a tough one because people will people will never be happy I don't think I don't think anything he could have answered the rate would have really she I get I get what you're saying I get what you're saying but that's difficulty that's where but that's where the chat what that's where it's important to be challenged though yeah you know what I'd love to have a conversation with him in it and when he come back with something I go yeah but what about yeah what about and then see if you can deal with yeah that's the point isn't it and that's why that's why I listen it's great it's great that he's done that with everything rather than that would talk yeah yeah that's I appreciate that I've got no no problem with that but you need pushback it's you can't just have a you can't just have a conversation with someone's asked a question like by someone who is not that's not his that's not jazz's job no but what I mean is that this is not jazz's sound I said so we did this morning don't have a we haven't a go with jazz it's not jazz's fault that you don't like the quit but what I mean is the way it was everything could have just read in them questions but it was obviously just answered it so like you know you know when you need to interview Alastair McGowan he'd trip him up like he'd tie him in knots Alastair McGowan with timing knots see Alastair was so good that he was so good that Frank Frank sort of like to give him a present to make sure he was that good yeah Dave Thomas Oliver Kay didn't put that statement out by the way he's even come out himself and said there's nothing work is currently ongoing let me clarify the stadium for those people who are absolutely every time something gets said they just poo the pants let's be honest right the stadium work is all paid for till the summer right basically it's all paid for till the summer till I think it's paid up to literally the point John said November didn't he well it might be sorry it's basically paid up to the outside of the stadium finished of finishing all the outside exterior the interior the interior is the next part and that will come under different money because it's a different it's a different thing so all this is is paid for and they work and they work every day and and you only have to you only have to go on the multiple drone videos that are out there to watch to see people working every single day I mean last week on that thing that's sweet which is just nonsense anyway it said that they basically didn't come back for work after Christmas well I'll come last week they basically finished off the the the end then the the top bar yeah yeah yeah it's all thank you stop what people gotta be very careful of is not like there's so much going on at the moment and dickheads love to just throw extra stuff in there and and make it look like it's it's a complete complete complete show but don't fall into that it's a lot of it's rushing like I I never respond to people ever ever ever ever right because you just don't but on the thing on that black all of a k-thing and then all of a k-po that's nonsense the like I'm feel the FN there's something it was close something like that but yeah but the thing is it's plausible and I was like I underneath I went mate it actually isn't plausible in the slightest they haven't been paid since the summer work they haven't been it's just all bullshit because they are I don't know why but some Liverpool fans are terrified still I don't know why why I don't understand it I can't get me out of there I drove by Amfield last week going to the Southampton game looks brilliant what they're doing the road stopped the stand looks brilliant I don't stop and go oh yeah shake your fist it I just go I don't understand the miles better than us the win more than us they're up you know going for champions league places whatever whatever whatever why are you bothered whatever they're doing why it's just weird it's proper it's proper weird it's like mad weird behavior that maybe you need to get it checked out it's mad newcastle sun not all newcastle loads of newcastle fans are sound but some are dead weird as well they've got an obsession with everything that I literally don't understand I don't understand it's it's it's mad another one I don't they're basically in a final now after like one decent half a season and I'm not sitting here I'm going I'm looking at my club I'm looking at my club just banging down I'm not even asked about anybody else I'm just watching my club newcastle have been tremendous for a year no one no one can say anything about them don't give a crap where the money is there they should they take over have been allowed no not in a million years but it has been so it's not listen if they come in for everything you'd go right well yeah you know and if we go so that's a that's a different thing newcastle have been tremendous for a year and their fans have gone through kind of what we're going through at the moment which is frustration which is when you're looking and going what's actually happening with our football club and their fans still okay they didn't they didn't always come to gooderson in the end because they were fuming they didn't stop traveling but at home they were always 50,000 whether whatever went the all the way through looked like 50,000 some some of them are two sheets okay there was big crowds still no matter what was happening and they've got taken over and they've all gone on board and they got rid of the and they've moved forward good looks even looks like they're in a final now bar and absolutely disaster in the second leg and the flying high whether they I still have me doubt whether they'll get soft forward they'll get your which is tremendous which is unbelievable considering they were bottom of the league a year just just over a year ago fair play to them but some of the fans that I don't know why they're obsessed with having this weird but Liverpool fans why would you be asked laugh all you want I've got no problem if you laugh and go use it tell you're going fair enough that's up to you but for me of everything if the roles were reversed I'm give a shot especially after the six five six years they just had I wouldn't give a toss what do you do I probably go gonna get relegated now you'd laugh of course you would but the mad weird bit in this and making stories up and desperate for the ground not to happen even though it's built is massively weird massively weird just on you know we haven't really spoke about BLC like we spoke about yesterday done a little bit more reading on them there's a yeah do you know how to put them stats on the screen that one yet be little now I'm just making sure making sure 492 games they won 236 to do 102 and lost 154 win percentage what's that jack 40 40 can I ask you a question hang on do you know how to put those yeah you just click it you just click it I am what is what is referred to as the talent what is Ned you put them together is that it's whole career okay so we've got a 48 win right which is good obviously though the fear for a lot of people is and I've seen it because a couple of leads fans in the comments yeah skip there's a lead fan says as a lead fan I just don't see BLC going to Everton his training regime alone with sorry along with his obsessive attention to detail within the club and squad maybe way too much for Everton and I've seen another one I think was a lead fan before he was saying he likes to go in and some are not admitting to get it he's never gone anywhere so that alone is a worry isn't it that in terms of yeah Danny Murphy said it's guaranteed relegation he's a tit Danny Murphy said this morning that Andy Gordon's our best player no he did I'm just saying what he said just because this is the story I'm just putting it up no no but ultimately ultimately the situation is that he probably BLC probably will be a decent fit forever in terms of the way he does things and the way commands respect and the way his professionalism and what he wants from a football club but he probably just isn't the right club right now he's terrified of me no and that's right and that's why it's great that's actually why it's that would would be a decent appointment but the problem is is that you're looking from the flip side because I know a lot of people going oh is it we spoke about it I think we did speak about this yesterday when we were saying you know when every manager will come to the end of his cycle or a football club and things just start tailing off and there needs to be something Leeds fans Leeds plays were exhausted but it's levels isn't it Liverpool players are exhausted you can see they're exact they're exhausted so their levels are they're like nine and ten to them nine ten to whatever it is at the moment because they're exhausted plays are injured and that's that's because of five six years of running through brick walls for the manager right so they're exhausted yeah you see that Leeds plays did the same thing after three years they were all exhausted and and they drop off was because their quality wasn't as high as like someone like Liverpool they drop off was they were they were threatening relegation he left new manager new guy comes in changes things up a little bit keeps them up and then brings his own people in that's what generally happens in football and so that I'm not really I don't know what else he did at Leeds in that last year and go oh look at me you'll get as relegated because of that yeah I look at it and go would that plays be able to cope well probably not but that doesn't at the same time that doesn't mean instant relegation and it also doesn't mean that it's his fault it just means that again recruitment has led to a situation where our players are so bad that they wouldn't be able to cope or it wouldn't be he wouldn't be able to get those those levels across quick enough and that's a big problem isn't it and then you ask yourself well who would what would come in what who would be that's what I'm again like I said last week on sacking Frank Lampard I'm pretty relaxed about the whole situation because to me this is going to take more to me than the 18 games we've got left so listen yeah because I've seen a couple here like uh guys good luck guys says big Sam for six months he'll keep us up with a big bonus can I ask you hate myself but this seems the best option okay okay right can we just break that down a little bit because Alan Dice went to West Brom that was his last job he had 25 games and got them relegated he won four games I think or five games in that time they were awful they were awful and that was was that two years ago two years ago that was we that we beat them on nil didn't we at West Brom yeah um they were awful yeah they had nothing they had nothing they were rubbish that was his last job yeah so there's no guarantee Sam I like to keep us in the league whatsoever the thing about it right first of all first and foremost the next two games are Arsenal and Liverpool right so we'd come in and put 15 men behind the ball in both games he tried to sneak men on we'd probably lose both games because just because I don't think this effort is sad and I don't think the team maybe maybe Liverpool or Amfield is a slightly different one just because they're not firing properly at the moment and if you have a game plan you can't frustrate them if you get the first goal you're in big trouble like we did it last year they were flying last year and we went and we went there and for 70 minutes it was all right however Arsenal are absolutely flying right now and I think if you sit on the edge of your box for 90 minutes you're losing okay right so you got to think about what I would say is right you got to think about what our problems are our problem our number one problem at Evan the reason why where we are where we are is we can't score goals it's not because we couldn't we can't defend because we've defended we defended really really well early on the season everyone everyone said it didn't we we were we were we were we conceded you know less than everyone else at certain points in the season um we we can't score goals would Sam Allardyce change that would Sam Allardyce's Allardyce's style of play good as goals don't forget when Sam Allardyce came in as Evan manager we had Wayne Rooney we had Guilfee Sigarton around for a little bit we had um we got Theo Wolcott we got Shen Tolson who scored a few goals to keep us up you know I know he was you know but he did score a few goals to keep us up yeah like to stoke and stuff for this field Theo scored goals and I think the Leicester game that's true against Leicester didn't we had players who could put the ball in the back in the net we're just about to sell Anthony Gordon by the looks of it so that's a player gone we've been linked to the players been linked to the Bamba D'Angue today who Frank Lampard basically the fellow was in the in the in the door the same way the other fellow just gone to space was in the door and he said no I don't want him after everything was done and now we're going back for him Kerasi Kerasi another one Lampard didn't want you know maybe maybe with Gordon going back a couple of or maybe two or three forwards will be accelerated because of the sale of Gordon I think we all know that and payment change I think we all know that's why he's going it's pure FFP isn't it by selling a homegrown player yeah we all know that but that's that's you know it's we are conceding goals but I we're not scoring goals that's our problem and is Aladise the type of player you type of manager you can say in that round can he say in that other round you gotta think about what our problems are and I I'm not on board with the Aladise show whatsoever I'm really not just because I look at him I just think you don't you finish keep don't present your podcast and do that that is no way saying to keep us up no way fan of Drach no John isn't John isn't the the boss of toffee tv but we like we like to make him the boss of Ned we're the boss of TV we like we like to make him the boss of Ned with the boss in a two ever games have been changed for tv in March I'm sure Ned's already put this on the socials and the trip to not the forest is now Sunday a two o'clock kickoff and the game of Chelsea is now 18th of March will now be a 530 kickoff you've already got them out on socials haven't you Ned good lad got a super chat here read it right now from Otter or Otter so it's thanks for everything you do you guys thank you very much mate thanks you for the super chat become a premium member and save yourself some money rather than super chat but thanks mate um I feel oddly dizzy today that would be the idea no it's like I've got me really belongs not right or before and I was like I was like I was taking a step to me left and I went oh oh drink water okay Ned go get me some water I went through it royal bluetooth I went to a catholic non-school in the 90s they kept the cane on the slide but you did it SpongeBob says people messaging 40 million stupid money for Gordon need to show I know let's undersell and put off buyers leave off the stupid comments reckon he's way for 100 million it's a new castle get the ass ball on the left wing Renzi wants to runeo Carlos Cobra Cobra ambus be else as a system was he was probably a lot of I don't know if any leads fantasy still yeah oh yeah mark is mark owns his high leads funny and you're dead right be else you would need a preseason yeah all the stuff I've read mark he like obviously trying to implement that way basically everyone my marks don't he essentially that's what it's like the three what is it the three three one everyone my marks you take you've got to get those points across it's real you know I don't think you can do that like that but who knows who knows it was it a scene a couple of people said to us when Cobra and left that's when lead started to drop off a little bit is that right mark in your opinion or is that just is that just people saying whatever let us know let us know you're a lead fan let us know Steven Lee's give us the latest betting you would have thought Ned at the source of the show and Martialo Bielsa five to four favours Sean Daesh second favours at the moment Ralph Hasenhuttle and Daesh is nine to four Hasenhuttle is seven to one I like ten to one Wayne Rooney ten to one Duncan Ferguson twelve to one Marty Lee no sixteen to one Nuno Espirito Santo sixteen to one Thomas Frank sixteen to one yeah I think you can cross off Nuno I think he's just gone to Saudi Arabia not long ago on a huge contract so he can be taken out the running and I don't see Marty Lee now being a real target but I don't know Thomas Frank I would love but I don't why would you leave Brentford forever why would and certainly you know what it's one thing in like a May or a June where you go we've we've done this and I'm setting things up for you going forward and you've got a preseason why would you leave Brentford now we were really good for everything you just wouldn't so you can take him out the mix and then that kind of leaves you with Duncan to be a long shot wine he's out of work so we'd be a cheap option for everything as well but he's never managed but I'd say the one thing he would say about Duncan Ferguson is he'd get more out of these plays at the moment because he just wouldn't have some of them don't know what I mean and if he was making the decisions and the calls they would run play football players Jesse Lingard said this on the diary if you see you know it's really good quite sad actually it is quite what to do no it is it's good you know it is quite sad but it's dead reveal need like you know what's mad socks up your night to go on standards are just terrible with a club in the club in the past events like the training grounds like the team and all that anyway it's all about standards and when Ferguson was there and it was unbelievable now it's sure it will now but yeah yeah but he was saying like you know fuck Gary Neville said the same thing footballers love an excuse you give them if you give them a little bit of an axe Alan Stubbs said at the other day if you give them a reason to he's like because we don't we don't like that and he's like so and not if you do that with footballers they all do it and it's also about who do you've got around them I look at Anthony Gordon and I look at who's around them and I look at who's been who's who's been at evident around them with them and who's been you know putting them straight and all this and I look at I just think you've got no leader in that dressing room you're saying they haven't before this season what about Seamus I think Seamus is for me I love Seamus to death I just don't know whether I maybe you need a couple of them I think you need the culture yeah if you're Seamus and I imagine Cody and Tarkov here are on that but you I think you need seven I don't mean if you're actually all of us if you have a few you look go back to Moses teams the people they had and all those people are on the manager's side so they're implementing all that stuff in the dressing room and therefore if the culture is the six seven eight of us all doing it and then this patient comes in and he's not doing it it's that easy to spot him if it's the other way around it's harder if Anthony Gordon thinks the culture is to do to be you know do whatever he wants and just and it's fine and but don't don't the football club have a responsibility so in my opinion right and it's only my opinion I think we just we allow them to get carried away what he did and we hold a load of pressure on the lads back but we did because we and we do this quite a lot and this is a major problem with the football club been saying this for a while um it's a it's a culture within the football club to elevate the next person to be the hero to get the name on the back of the shirt it goes it's been going on for a while keeps pressure on a young local lads that have been allowed a nuns and he's done nothing he's done nothing i've been saying this for two and a half years he got four goals and three of them had deflected well one wasn't even his goal he's done nothing in the game and they've elevated he worked hard last year he was important he was important for us and now but we can't what you're doing is giving him no i'm not i'm not i'm looking at i'm looking at right i am looking at the actual facts of the city racing and i'm taking out my emotional feelings towards them like i've got no emotional feelings frustrates me because he doesn't do enough right it's done last season in that framework and in that team he was important to us right he wasn't amazing he didn't score loads he got four goals but like i said there was two huge deflections the chalice and was one of the other one do you know what i mean he's done nothing about and that yeah that was it played nearly 70 games right and he's got three assists and i think seven goals and four of them were deflected he's done but now we know but it's no but there's no bodies that he's done i know what you said i know what you're saying i know what you're saying what i'm not and this is not me personal he's done nothing no he hasn't but he's obviously there's enough there to warrant teams like chelsea spares new castle all one of our stats but they're not looking at him as a person they're not looking at him and going what is what does he bring what's his personality what does he want to do who is what does he do for the team how does he present himself i look at i look at a young lad who from day one i can hear carlo and chelotti screaming at him to get back in games to keep his positioning and stuff like that when no no he went alone didn't do anything he improved under benitez no he did he didn't he did his positional sense started to improve but this is a lad who's done absolutely nothing and i have watched him this season just just walk around the pitch just walk around the pitch it to me is to me watching him play football right his attitude stinks now people might people who know him might tell me completely different and there might be reasons for that but in terms of football he has done absolutely nothing and to heap this stuff on him of being of being starboy and all this smacks to me of of everton being desperate for to push to push a kid to and i think in a better culture that doesn't happen to me this is where we go back to again moise time and and basically time to calm everyone down about rooney and not let them do interviews and and not really want them to go to england and set the expectations the bar lower for him and i know he he he he butted against that and that's fine because he because he was that kind of fella that kind of player but i i've got the zero issue with him leaving the football i i think that and there is there it seems to come across this and people we speak to have said the same kind of thing is that and john something john says all the time as well is that the culture of everton is to kind of like john will say pushy foot around players right and i think it's right i think i understand you can't be you can't cheers net i understand you can't you can't be grabbing people up against walls anymore if the game has moved on but there's nothing wrong with telling people home through to if they get arse about it that's the way it is then they're not the right characters anyway because a right character will accept the criticism and use your constructive you're picking on them all the time it's a different thing i don't think i don't think that i don't think picking on someone is the right thing to do but i think we've just said today you create a culture and you have standards and what you do is every day you have if you have eight nine people who come in and those standards are a d2 then everybody else says well that's the standard i need to be to fit in here and if i want to get in the team as well i need to be at those standards and that clearly has not been happening ever for a very long time it starts at the top it trips down it comes on the manager as well and that hasn't been happening and you let players get away with things you let them get away with things and you you if you create a culture where a 21 year old kid thinks he's made it and that's it because he played putting everything shared on didn't that's not good enough for me it's just not good enough it's not he's anne gordon's not i think it's fine today i there's not trained again today that could be yesterday was a planned absence he's not there today whether or not that's planned or not we don't know but that is the latest anne gordon has missed training today um i just seen something that was interesting and it started off uh chris bains says what i've read about bielsa is pretty much every player that has worked under him has said they've improved massively plus if you have managers who follow that style afterwards there's some plan but who i don't think a lot of managers do follow bielsa style afterwards to be honest chris if i add this is an interesting one why or why do some fans still ask for a big dunk who else wants them open arm but no tactics won't work i'll do you know we've got no tactics because his style is very much shown dice which is our sam aladice in some respects which is what people would say as in four four two get the ball be aggressive get the ball forward that's a bit of a that's a major strange comment when aladice and dice are the top two or certainly in the runner because basically all the great tactical managers we've had has worked hasn't it so said this yesterday it's just at the end of the day people come out with names but no one has got a clue what is right forever um corner says i remember the piv talking about adi hutte what feels like four managers ago he's available in the similar vein to pep borderless just feels like names we should be attached to let's hope let's hope that um that kevin thelwell's looking at that you know let's see you don't know um people talking about goals well yeah we don't score goals in the current system i don't know how much more you can say in in any different way team score goals who haven't got very good players and they score goals and promote the teams have no problem scoring goals they haven't got good players because basically they get a lot of people in the box they're aggressive that's how you score goals they're aggressive there's this thing that oh no everyone's got i i go on about goals buying goals into your team and i'm talking about chances being able to take them being able to take them being able to take them but i don't subscribe to the thing that no one can score a goal so that's it ever and they've got no goals in them so that's the end of it the way we play isn't isn't or hasn't been conducive to scoring goals be else i'll just use him might come in get ever an attack on like lunatics if he could and all of a sudden players would have a chance in the middle of the goal with and they can kick a ball from here today the ball goes in the net it's not creating exactly that's what we don't create anything and the likes of john jones and the likes of the blues are right in that in that formation and that situation we ain't got good enough players to go you know what i'm just going to be able to do this look at saty right look at saty second half we get we put we bring different wing backs on we're more aggressive we play higher up the pitch they tune it up they they're always going to sit back and try and play in the counter attack we we did put loads across into the box but no one from midfield no breaks in so you got dom on his own which means if they've got everyone back it's a lot easier to mark so you can put as many crosses in as you want it's not going to make a difference and what does the manager do he sits on his hands and doesn't bring any more attack isn't he should have had ellis sims on he should have had a price on and gone to them so you get in the box with dom you break from midfield into the box and we just put crosses in and we'll attack it you get a goal all of a sudden they like see you all the time you see you all the time don't you you get one and suddenly they're like oh we were just going to sit in we've got to change our style of play and you get the momentum but happens all the time it's happening against those loads of times you know it's mad it's absolutely mad you're going for it and because you've got got one you think right well let's get another one then we don't win on aggressive and and it's what the most obvious thing is about aggression is go back to the way wool the wool's game last minute of gaming you centre backs are playing it between them yeah and fans some fans have accepted that that's okay and it's not okay it's just not okay no no it won one that was that was ridiculous that Tarkovsky played a brilliant it was a great ball to be fair and if Patterson's header goes round the corner like it should do he makes the mistake Patterson because he had to square if he had it round the corner Gordon got the chance to put the ball into the six yard box we might get the winner his header's not very good Gordon it's behind Anthony Gordon he can't really do much the core I should foul the lad yeah and then there's issues as they break and we don't get men right and that but to come out then and moan at the crowd it was a game we had to win and that's the thing to know what I mean it's it's one of them isn't it you look and go um I'm not gonna go back over it mate honestly it's it's becoming it's almost like you don't understand what I'm saying which is fine which is fine I am more than comfortable with uh with what I know about football if you and you will I'm sure you are with what you you think um when you look at and the reason why I say that I know I don't need to buy goals I've been saying it to you for I know that we need to get lads who are used to putting the ball in the back of the net but it is weird that people have this view that you can't score a goal unless you've got all these goal scorers it's how you play it's why teams come get promoted they haven't got they haven't got loads of goal like they're not great goal scorers still score goals because they get lads in the box leaving that lead team now when they came up look they looked at the team and it was a team that looked like didn't have any stars in it but the team was aggressive yeah it was aggressive and then they go to they went to anfield area on and get b4 three day one yeah before three people like who these look like the other goal yeah yeah i'll be six six three united or six two and of course you said they're going well i'm not don't want to be going everywhere getting beaten six three you'll concede and that but i'm not being funny i don't sound super but give me give me give me a team that scores three goals over a team that just sits there and is happy losing 2-0 at west nam i think give me a team that has a goal i want we need players this team i've said that this team isn't there isn't enough goals in this team and what i mean by that is to get goals from kind of nowhere so we have to create something a bit different but we've got to get men in the box why are we why do we often just have one player in the box we're never going to score a goal like that so it's no wonder no one gets goals because we're just nowhere near the box no aggression to get if you if you have the if you have someone like i'm not saying to be else because i haven't got a freaking clue but if it was him we would know that when they break there won't be five or six seven lads because that's what leaves one like i've been like the morning all season with the likes of someone like michael inco it's like you've got to go yeah you've got to be on the edge of the box you've got to be providing the extra man so that the two the two wide men who've been playing in a three then can then go in the box and then they're inside the box and suddenly you've got you've got your three forwards you've got one of your midfielders on the edge of the box pushing in that should that's supposed to be a woby he very rarely does that and then that's where you got you and you you camp then and if the ball comes out the full backs recycle it and put it back in or the fells it's what man city i've been down briefly for the last few years it's like there number six he was like you know you used to watch finnardino it was like when he played against her they were like a vice they played up up up up and finnardino was the last man yeah you always knew that's where the attack sort of stopped but finnardino being there to your box you're like and number six is standing two yards in front of the centre backs and that's the difference they are they're camping they're on top of you and as soon as that ball gets you they get older again and they put it back and that's the way like the best teams play get live appeal digression get it with it back straight away we've got men pushed forward you know they get that's the whole principle of getting impressive as you know counter-attack the counter-attack so and we're just sitting here and we there's no aggression in our team and of course that's why we and that's one of the main reason we don't score goals because we're not we're not we're not we're looking to the southampton game we're one they'll up why aren't we going right let's go for this it's to be aggressive no we're one they'll up so let's just hold what we've got and you're gonna concede and we did it against walls it's just like no it is that's where there has to change if you play that course just and yet you're not solid yeah you're just waiting to be beaten you're all it becomes rather it becomes hope rather than any kind of plan you're hoping you don't concede and you niche a goal you can't play football like that you can't play football like that a c says a lad's any on the super chat a lad's anything in the story's about oh no i'm not turning off the training not turning off the training he was he's away isn't he yeah i'm a wedding i think that was a planned absence not a whether he's there today but i'm sure he had a couple of days off to go to this wedding so maybe that's that troubles me what happens with that one i don't i don't think there's any chance of if him leaving ever in this window and we go on on the other hand if Phil says bang on bars you can score goals and tactics under frank nobody could see any kind of tactical plan going forward yeah absolutely and the thing about it is it we're not saying or certainly i'm not saying we don't need reinforcements i've been saying it since august we do we absolutely do but but if you change the way you play and do something different you've got a better chance of scoring goals you carry on what we're doing yet we won't have enough goals of course we won't because we haven't got them now if we just hoping you're hoping you've got to you've got to create a different style haven't you you've got to create just pull a Chris it's fine you've got to be able to to get men in the box you've got to be able to get wagging your crosses and you've got to be aggressive you've got to go after the win why why do you see in teams that go after the you know go after wins get them because they're not scared we we've almost played scared all season and we haven't had the quality to do one or the other certainly we haven't had the quality to put the ball in the net and we've been done so um farad says it but i really respect your views make but it's obvious to me dunk has no tactics the villagame showed me all i'll reiterate why anyone else trying to go yeah i'm not listen each of their own i'm just saying that i mean i wouldn't that villagame we did that was after benita's are being shocked on it we did have what was it 20 out of 10 we have double what filler at didn't we and we missed it as and we got done by one set play um it wasn't don't get me wrong it wasn't a great performance but it was a better performance than what we've seen and he'd only had the team a few days had me i don't know i don't know that i'm not saying i was just saying he's free isn't he that's why people are probably going to get dunking in he's been here before whatever but evidently looking at managers aren't he so everyone will be disgust won't he i haven't got a clue what he should do me for the simple reason that it's just it is you know it is what it's because they have a right mate let's just leave you're right i won't say another way you are correct everyone else has got amazing attackers ever not terrible we won't score another goal i'm a relegated end of discussion um mix says the chalk does the flying was my fear that back in school no as in a d t the fella through a chisel bios once like at the wall obviously wasn't it no spot through a bios but you're thinking if that had gone wrong what the hell that would have been a bloodbath literally wouldn't it the what yeah you're strange all right no yours yours is i just don't believe you enter school so i that's not true yours isn't yeah that yours isn't as good a story i don't think that yeah just someone tighten the dinner and eat there's a super chat in i don't know where it's gone super chat super chat like a super chat tab don't you yeah you're not on the thing not on there but i can go there and look at me mum just messaged me something go ahead she said someone a dad i won't say who is oh and then i went and then i had a look to see if it was like i could see anything on like news or anything and i went with and i couldn't see anything i went where did you where did you see that and she went facebook i said well it must be two then wasn't it facebook i said mother and else she's throwing her out there is she she's throwing her out there on facebook dropping dropping death bombs maya says afternoon guys care just another rack coming out the blocks to deflect and defend themselves let's be honest there's gonna be a lot more can anyone confirm if it's just the three players you had involved with he's had loads hasn't he he's had loads he's had loads dan says at least the bls of with each whip bls of the 40 would be good for the first seven years and manager that develops players when the situation looks dire it makes more sense to be bold okay tom says not sure why you don't get the names of some coaches from the perv and talk about them talk about them every day but it's there's no point is there a lot of the names we've mentioned tom is the names that me and andy discuss anyway so um gareth says i'd have bls in me when he's at time but not right now um simon says does we have a referee so someone like him name anxious to report is in washington mate he's in washington um jakes says under mues we put in 30 crosses every game and we should win like between 11 and 14 own games didn't we um chris bane says cobra is the one for me okay he's obviously doing well at a west bram oh cobra is the under 21 manager at least not not bls is assisting thank you andy julian says you think it'd be else it is appointed it's a prelude to one of his disciples like cobra taking over in the future um i have no idea julian no idea uh james says hasn't got no he's a problem rich stamina something i identified at youth level wouldn't cope with blsable quite possibly yeah um so my mum messaged me and said that my kate fox was dead but apparently it's his mother thanks mum a bit of a bit of a difference i know a bit of a difference slight difference jackey was recorded facebook for you when was your first day the matured interview first day i think um lions you should i don't know it's a different one uh i don't know chris i hope you prepare for the pain but i'll have to keep you medicated i stayed here for us um and yes by the way i don't believe you're allowed to leave half finished buildings in the uk that's why we don't have sight you have in spain or portugal because of abandon sights i mean there are loads of abandoned sites i don't live a pill there's a lot of there's a lot of footings just nothing about yeah but i think it's a little bit more it's a little bit more than footings in it the stadium it's basically a stadium it's basically a stadium isn't it make sure you hit that like button we're gonna go soon eh rapsy says get bonking for manager bonk could change it it's a bold move it's a bold move but but he could you have to have your coaching badges don't want yeah so yeah do you definitely know that bonk hasn't got his coaching badges because i don't the blues i actually don't i don't i love shame and people for disagree now i don't mate honestly i really don't everyone's in sight of their opinion but you put the same comment a hundred times every single day and i i discuss it with you four or five times and i think and you just keep going back to it so in the end when you're reading the million comments and you keep seeing the same comment every day then i raise my voice so and you know i'm speaking to you i said to you a million times how he speaks to the net you are entitled to your opinion the same as i am with mine i don't believe that you can't get a team scoring goals because you're hasn't got loads of goal scorers in it or sorry it can't score more than it currently is those players can kick a football from here to the door which is about 12 foot away something like that 10 foot away if you can kick it that far you can score a goal by being in the penalty area i agree with yet we need better players you've got those abilities to go one v one or to running behind and be calm enough to put the ball in the net of course you do you watch us every day you will have heard us saying every day we need strikers we need wingers we need to attack on the field players no one's denying that at all nobody's denying that at all you are right we do but that isn't to say we can't we can't get better with what we're doing that's what i'm trying to say but every time i say that you come back and go but there's no goals but there's no goals so i do i do i just stop speaking to you let's just make a volleyball team i know but you know what i mean you can get any team scoring goals there's loads of teams who don't have goal scorers and still score goals there's lads who come up from the championship and get like eight goals they've never scored a goal in their life they get seven or eight goals this team needs reinforcements no one would would say any difference but if everton played differently gambled a bit more they would get goals for the sympathies and they would have bodies and evidence team you know contrary to what you will say and other people say isn't terrible if you listen to any kind of professional within the game they turn on and say the squad isn't great by any set of the imagination but it should be doing better than what it is now lads who've played the game pundit data analysts should be better that now that should be better might be the 15th rather than bottom and might only be good enough to be 15 do you know what i mean but it should be doing better than doom has been confirmed by spares okay so therefore that's what i'm trying to say um then the lady says timmy mallet's being spotted in the oak she just is you having a game of mallet's mallet possibly um john jones we do it we do it because you get men in the box like we should we do something different we in the end haven't been doing the exact same thing near enough every week haven't me near enough every week without and expecting i guess something to change like that is madness isn't it we all know that you have to do things that are different to try to come to what would a better solution that's what the manager's job is there to do it's why when i interviewed frank lampard i was saying can we shoot more can we put more crosses in because by doing that you you're almost playing the percentage game aren't you know if i have 10 shots of the goal one might go in haven't haven't three and four and five attempts at goal how are you ever going to score a goal you know even should be having 20 shots of goal anyway before we go it's only one more thing to say almara that's my name but no ambush that's my name is it that is the greatest because you haven't watched yet watch don't listen to yesterday's 1878 fm podcast you need to just want to be cheered up a little bit yeah it's just it's amazing that's my name it's Danny hey says virtualism hasn't scored a league goal at spares but we know we can score goals alex says just look at Vegas and a bright now score them for fun um 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