 The best kind of doors are the doors you have to explain. All right, welcome, welcome to Unhinged with the DoorDork today. We do have two very special guests, Mr. Bryce and Tom from Capital Lock. I'll jump on to the next one. Bryce and Tom were generous enough to send over a couple of photos from their own stock. We like to call them adventures, you know? What their team has found out in the wild. And so these next two photos are gonna be because of Capital Lock. So thank you guys for contributing. And I'm excited to see this. This is my favorite though, because we don't often have the backstory. So today we'll get that, because often it leaves more questions. Right. Okay, are you guys ready? We are. Yep, yeah. So I'll give a little bit of the backstory on this one. We're doing a walkthrough at a hospital here and they have some medicines that need to get stored in a cabinet. And so the solution that the previous Locksmith or installer decided to do is they took a salto mortise lock meant for a door, turned it on its side and installed it into a drawer. So they use a door mortise lock as their card access for a medicine drawer. And it surprisingly is put in really well and it actually functions as planned. Wow, who would have thought that could have worked? Yeah, we were walking through the facility trying to identify where these were at. And my Locksmith looks over and he's been doing this for about 30 years. He caught his eye and he's like, is that a lock on a drawer? And he walked over there and sure as shit, there it is. He said this is probably one of the most creative solutions he's ever seen in his 30 years as a mortise lock for a door installed on a drawer. Yeah, that's definitely creative. I've never seen anything like that before. It's almost like salto needs to have the cabinet lock or something. I feel like they actually have the solution for this. Yeah, so they have about 40 cabinet locks throughout the facility. So I don't know if this was just a leftover. And they said, you know, some guys said, I'm gonna be creative on this one is one of the challenge. I don't know what they were thinking but well executed it function. I appreciate it, especially if they're gonna use one of our mortise locks as the functionality, I love it. Yeah, I would have been worried that in a laying down orientation, all the components inside would have still done what they were supposed to do. I've never really thought about it. I've never really thought about turning the mortise lock on its side and then making sure it continues to function. So good. And this probably, if they had them laying around, great. If they purchased them for this, this cost them many times more than what they needed to spend on this solution. But if it's working, I mean that lever also acts as a great drawer pull. It's true. I'm just now like trying to orient myself. Lever is perpendicular, like a regular lever. Like you would use it to pull it open, but like you would also use it, does it latch that way? Or is it? No, so they actually turn the lever, so it's 90 degrees. I think with just the sets, we didn't take it all the way apart, but they turned it, so that is how it is normally is. And then you can pull up or down after scan, just like if it was on a normal door, you'd be going left and right, but... Yeah, there's nothing that would really prevent you from doing that, even on any of the like Osa Abloy product, like the mortise levers, just how they're mounted, right? You could, there's nothing to say as an industry, we couldn't just have to go with this orientation. So yeah, I mean, I think it's an interesting way to solve a problem. Big application, I love it. I would like to see like how they even thought of that. Yeah, I don't know. It took some custom fabrication just to make it work. So it's not clear what exactly they were thinking. On that discussion on the inside of the door, it kind of looks like there's a key cylinder there. I cannot remember if there actually was a key cylinder in there or not, but somebody actually could, if it's a classroom function, make that unlocked and then it kind of makes the card access not so effective. So possible issue. If this runs out of batteries or like I know there's like systems in place to help that not happen, but that you could have a locked drawer, you might have to bust open this drawer. I'm just curious on how many times someone has run into that, caught their lanyard on it, or anything looking down into that drawer. I'm sure people have thought about that of, well, why is this thing on here? Yeah, I'm glad it has the return on there. If it was just a standard lever, that's probably like catching people's hips all day long. And being in a hospital, like there's carts and beds and like, especially if this is for pharmacy use or drug use, like they have those carts that they're always running around that it walked down with the drugs inside of them. Okay, any last comments before we give it a knocking score? What do you guys think? I'd say we rate it. Well, you know, it's overall still pretty functional. It serves its purpose. Obviously, you know, touching on me at point, it probably went way over budget with it. I'm going to give it a 1.2 because, you know, I like the ingenuity. Now that you've pointed out, catching the handle, I don't know if there's a fire and life safety codes for drawer handles. And if that's a factor at all. But, and also like I said, maybe the lock cylinder on the inside could cause a security issue if it can be made unlocked. I'm going to give this a 2.1 just for a slight risk there, but still overall a very functional and effective part what they were trying to accomplish. I'm going to go with a 1.5. 1.5. Because luckily it doesn't have to do with entering or exiting any place in the building. It's just to house medication. And since we have levers on doors, I'm not worried about anybody hooking themselves on. And since it has a return, that's there to prevent anything like hoses or anything from getting hooked. And if they're catching their lanyards, they should have breakaway lanyards as part of their hospital policy. So risk is low with the exception of being able to unlock it with the key inside and override the access control. I'm going to give this an eight or a nine on creativity. Although I think it's a genius that they came up with something like this. And the word genius, just thinking outside of the box, like thinking outside of the norm, it probably has a better higher security than your average cabinet lock bonus points for them. And maybe that's what's their idea behind it is they wanted extra security on there. But yeah, as far as a knocking score, not too knocking bad, one or two maybe. Okay, you guys ready for the last photo? This one's a doozy. Oh yeah, took the words out of my mouth. You can notice quite a few violations and life safety code in addition to fire code here. So the background story on this one, I was the one who took this picture out in the field. You can see one of our texts pointing at it directly and laughing there. He's the one with 30 years of experience out in the field. So this is a fire door into the stairwell. As you can see, there is a deadbolt on there. And then where the exit sign is supposed to be displayed, they crudely taped a cardboard cutout over. So it used to be a library and they were renting out the basement to people who played Dungeons and Dragons. And they didn't want the Dungeons and Dragons people to be able to access the other levels and come up. It has since then been bought out by a medical clinic. So we told them, you know, we need to get this right. And convert it back over and make sure we're up to fire code here. What it comes down to was Dungeons and Dragons. That is fantastic. Yeah, you got to keep them down in the dungeon, you know? At first I was like, oh, they taped over the exit sign. They must have converted this to something else, you know, because in previous episodes, we've had something happen and they've left the exit sign up there, right? And so I was like, oh, good for them. They've at least covered that it's an exit. No, no. Yeah, unfortunately, Nova still goes down into the basement and about 30 feet down the hallway on the other side there, there is the fire exit. Not a great one here. We were telling them, you know, sort of with a sense of urgency, we need to get this fixed. Yeah, I was thinking the same thing, Mia, when I first saw this photo was like, oh, it's no longer an exit, like the occupancy or they remodeled or something changed and it's no longer a needed exit. But especially if it's now a medical clinic that extra layers of code on top of that. And so that this is definitely not okay. Wow, this is pretty bad. Yeah, unfortunately, it's probably something you're just gonna have to replace the whole door and frame. I mean, you could potentially fill it at the top one. You know, Bryce is now certified as a fire door inspector. So we were kind of looking to devise a plan of, okay, can we salvage this door? Is there a proper way we can do this where it is still going to be a fire door? But unfortunately, I think we are going to have to order a new door for this one. Yeah, I think at least it's gonna have to get recertified because once you remove that deadbolt, you're losing a lot of the integrity of that fire door and that's gonna be a penetration point for fire and smoke. I can't tell what kind of deadbolt it is, if it's larger than an inch cutout. And that's the whole thing, it is a quick set. So I believe that was what inch and an eighth. So it's already more than the inch. So yeah. I appreciate that they matched the finish of the deadbolt to the exit device. You don't normally see that on jobs like this, guys. Unfortunately, it might have been my photography skills. It is a 612 on the exit device. And then it's a 619. Lack of good lighting and not great photography skills, I mean. All right. So my point is proven. You don't normally see them get matched in after the fact. But from here, yeah, it looks like it was matched. What's up with the little co-panger on there? They used to hang a sign on there saying Dungeons and Dragons in session. So you wouldn't interrupt their quest. To be fair, at least it looks like it's a command hook, so it's just stuck on there. So at least they didn't drill a hole for that, you know. No fire code violation on that one. Also, if they were removing this as an exit, that cardboard sign is not compliant either. You would still have to remove the sign and make sure all the signs leading down to this pathway is removed as well. And you would have to have another form of egress depending on the occupancy of the building as well. I heard that they replaced that piece of cardboard. They used to tape up different signs, depending on what land they were in for Dungeons and Dragons. So... This is not the exit you're looking for. Exit, if you dare. Yeah, and then our locksmith was talking about too, if there's ever, especially in today's day and age, sort of the code read, someone intruder in the building that shouldn't be in there, that's really your only exit on that side of the building. No, this is one of the worst I've seen, I think. Any last comments before we give it a knocking score? This one's a doozy. I think we pretty much covered it all and all the lands that could possibly associated with it. I'm gonna go with a 9.1, you know, in my career, this is the worst one I've seen. I mean, as a now certified fire door inspector, I think I have to give this a 10. It is just unacceptable and needs to be taken care of ASAP. So I'm gonna give it a Bryce Clark sound on this one. It can't function as it's intended. Yeah, it's probably gonna have to be a 10, right? Can't get out. If there's a fire, you can't get out here. Yeah, it's pretty black and white on this one. I know sometimes we have a little bit of gray area, but especially now that we know the behind the scenes story of why that's set up in this application. Dungeons and Dragons, that's very important, but it sounds like it's a very dangerous quest that they just campaigned. And you know, you think about all the dragon fire that might be associated, you gotta have that fire exit. I'm with you guys, we might have another 10. Bumping up the scores. All right, well, thank you. Thank you, Bryce and Tom for joining us. It's a pleasure having you on the show, especially after meeting you in person at the MSC conference and learn a little bit more about your guys' business. It's awesome to put your hardware nerds together. It's awesome when we come together. Thank you as well, Mia, for hosting and putting this amazing show on that we can learn and laugh and cry all at the same time. And make sure you guys join us for the next episode of Unhinged. Our doors are always open because they're unhinged. If you wanna be featured on a future episode of Unhinged, please leave a comment down below. Thanks for watching.