 Natalya Pogonina joins us in our studio to take us through her game with Ivánček. Natalya, a draw today, a good result, but the positions seemed a little shaky for you? Yes, okay, it was my second game against Vasily Ivánček. First also was played in Gibraltar, so Vasily Mikhalych is a great player and it's a big pleasure to play against him. And I think I was a big pressure after opening. I played not so well and it looks just a moment. Okay, I don't know with this game, I don't know, and Vasily played very fast. And I tried to find some moves and I was in time trouble and I don't know, I think it was just a moment. This position looks bad for me and I have a problem with my pawn d5 and this position looks dangerous for me. I don't know how to play for white, but it looks... Because of the two bishops? Yes, two bishops and also my pieces are not in the well position. I should play knight b7, looks on this position. It's two bishops, very active rooks and my knight on b7. Right, and just to show to our viewers that in this moment it was not possible to go for this line? Yes, because of rook e2. Yes, rook e2 and rook d8 maybe. And both your rooks are coming. Yes, maybe it's nice for black. So he went for bishop f1 here and you didn't like your position too much? Yes, I don't know how to play better for white, but I don't like this move. Maybe bishop f5, I don't know. Maybe bishop e5? Yes, and then you would have to go rook e8? And my rook... What to do with my rook? He could have... Okay, and now in this position you felt like it was... Yes, now I was a little bit confident because I will change one pair of rooks. No, you can actually just use this as well. Yes, yes, so... That's not my problem. And now rook c2? Yes, and now I think I have found a nice plan. I don't know, but before this idea, a5 and a4. So my knight is very strong. He could not make something with it. And I want to play a5, a4, and it will be a problem with b3 or a2. So I think it's close to equal, maybe equal position. So you were more comfortable in this? Also maybe knight d3 is coming in? Yes, it will happen. Only one problem, only one minute. But, okay, after rook... For example, with rook e2 I can play... Just rook c8? Rook d6, I think. Okay, we will change bishops and... And knight c8? Yes, knight c8. So he just agreed... Over here he just... Sorry, he separated me in this position. Were you surprised with the draw? But now it already feels like black is doing fine now. No, I think it's still... Still it's difficult? No, it's fine now. Now it's fine, yeah? Yes, it's okay, different colors, bishops. Yes, nothing to worry about. Yes, in one minute still... But you had another seven moves to make, so... Now you mentioned that it's an absolute pleasure to play somebody like Vasily. But how do you prepare for such a game? Okay, I know one thing. If you play against Vasily Mikhailovich, you shouldn't prepare. So just get to your rest. I decided to prepare it, of course. I did not guess what he would play. So maybe the best way was not to prepare it. To take some rest and be fresh for the game. Yes, yes, maybe it was the best way. But okay, I prepared maybe two hours. Okay, it wasn't trouble and I was lucky but I made a draw in this position. But obviously what you prepared never happened on the board. Yes, yes. Right, and tonight is the big night at Gypsies. You've got the battle of the sexes. Yes, I like battle of the sexes. Are you excited to play? Yes, last year we won. Yes. Yes, it was very nice. And I hope this time we also can win an opening. But I did not know who will play against us. Yes, but we do know it's not going, Nigel's not here with us. So we will have a new captain for the men's team. Yes, I think it's Maxim. Yes. So it should be interesting to see what team he puts together. But last year was a great result for the women's team. Yes. I don't know how many times we won. Not so many. But last year was a good one so you're looking to repeat that. And you've got Eti as your captain. Stefanova will be as usual captain of the women's team. Very strong captain. Well we love it, we look forward to it. Thank you for your time Natalia. And all the best for the remaining games. Thank you. Bye.