 So David, tell me the messages of peace and the foundation. It seems to have been just you for quite some time, along with some support people. And then you have messengers who have come and gone. Right now it seems to be growing. How do you see that? I don't really think of it in terms of growth. I do see it as we use the symbols and it's always the same for me. Just to destroy feeling and that. But it's a sense of just watching and allowing so people come and people go. The place has some change and you might say in terms of where all this seems to grow or shrink and now it seems like there's more coming here to visit. But then again I'm all over the world so it just seems like it's part of a big symphony and this is just the way it looks right now. So do you think that it seems that more people are being drawn to truth and to the message that you're sharing? Does it feel that way that there is more inspiration and more desire to go deeper with you? I think it seems that way but it doesn't feel that way to me. I mean it's like this quality of sameness so there's no growing or shrinking or more or less in this state of mind and feeling. However in what seems to be, it seems like there's more activity that's going around. I mean obviously more people and so it seems to be growing in terms of the world. In Ireland recently the people there are expressing a joy in coming together. There seem to be more people who are coming together in groups to share and to go deeper and to get some understanding and take this spiritual journey to another level and there seems to be a power in coming together in that. It feels as though people come together around a message that has some integrity and that message appears to come through you. For you obviously what you're saying is that the people who are touched by that just are in the dream and they seem to come and go and that has no real impact for you but they come and they hear and they take what is needed for their own minds. Would that be how you see it? Is that how it feels? I'm trying to find in my own mind how that would be. Well again the feeling is insane as well as completeness and so there's a sameness. It's like in the Course of Miracles it says that make this year different by making it all the same. Those kind of quotes are beautiful when you understand the teaching and you have the experience of seeing the sameness of all things what the state of enlightenment is about. In terms of the world everything in time seems to be in increments and progressives so there seems to be a progressive awakening occurring. People are more ready. There's more awakening activity going on. For example when I went to Ireland there was much talk about how the Course of Miracles was just seeming to be introduced and to take hold a little bit more because Gary Bernard was coming and Mary Ann Williamson was coming and they were quite excited that this was the first activity from the Course of Miracles teachers that were well-known coming to Ireland. It was a very new phenomenon indeed coming. Another thing that they mentioned and then Ann mentioned there was a more broader phenomenon where Esther Hicks and the Abraham material had come and filled a place that people like Chopra had come and filled a hall of a much more broader context such as spirituality in general. But of course Irish legends and when you go back to the Celtic legends and Irish mystics you know the great tradition in terms of just Christian mysticism is on that island and so on and so forth. So from a historical perspective you can say that there are going to be some recent events like the events I was just describing which seem to be a symbol for an opening to Course of Miracles. There was an even more recent person going over there and people you know different pockets here and there starting to say oh I had that book on my shelf and I'm inspired now to take it out and start reading or to join a room for those kind of activities for great symbols of this activity that seems to be going on. But from the enlightened perspective there's just the sameness that things aren't growing, they aren't shrinking, they are becoming more, they are becoming less, it's just a sense of equality. It's sameness, it's there, so there's nothing to make a fuss about from the enlightened perspective and they say in the Star Wars feels forever there's nothing to get help about either. It's just the sameness is just very steady and that's the joy that we are. It doesn't change, nothing changes in the world because the perspective on the world is just very lofty, higher perspective. So it almost feels as though it gets to a point where there's nothing more to say. Yeah, there's nothing there, the need be said or the should be said or the not be said yet it's like a free flowing flow but actually it's quite humorous. It's just a state of mind that is so still when you're asking me the first question about messages of peace it's like, oh, who are they? It's a very playful, it's in there, it's playing away. More people coming, oh really? It's just quite humorous the whole thing because it doesn't take anything in form seriously it's like a skit and you could say anything you want about that skit but it's just a skit so it's quite humorous. Right, right, perfect. Yeah, yeah. So the sense that I've been hearing just over the last few days that you are the Holy Spirit that there, obviously this is one you are the Spirit, this is what this is the perspective that you've just expressed. When you're in the Spirit or one, this is actually how you see the world or apparently that's and is that the happy dream? That's what the Force calls the happy dream. Yes, a lot of these guys will continue to report differences but the Healed Minds put them in the one we had where they are unreal so it's a great description from the Course in Miracles of the happy dream of the real world so there's no sense of trying to deny something it's not trying to say this didn't happen or that didn't happen and so forth is an experience in mind but it's not an attempt to to tell the world something it's just an inner experience it just radiates and it sees the world in a gentle manner in the sense that it doesn't take anything serious but it really takes serious. Seems as though it would be a very restful place to be. Yes. And we're trying. Okay, thanks. Thank you. Bye. Forever. Let's go.