 Good morning and welcome to this week's edition of Encompass Live. I am your host, Christa Burns, here at the Nebraska Library Commission. Encompass Live is the commission's weekly online event. We're a webinar, we're a webcast, we're an online show. Pick your terminology. It's up for debate for some people of what you call these things. But whatever you want to call us, we are here live every Wednesday morning at 10 a.m. central time. But if you're unable to join us on Wednesday mornings, that's fine. We also record all of our shows and they're posted to our website. I'll show you where that is at the end of the show so you can feel free. You can go there and watch any of the recordings of any of the shows you've missed before. The live show and the recordings are free and open to anyone to watch. So if you have any colleagues, friends, you want to see some of our shows, go ahead and point them to our website. We do a mixture of things here. We do book reviews, many training sessions, interviews, demos of products and software. Basically our only criteria here is that it's library related. We'll put it on the show. It's a library show, anything going on in libraries. We have Nebraska Library Commission staff that sometimes do presentations and sometimes we bring in guest speakers. And that's what we've done today. Over to my left is Denise Harders, who is one of our co-directors at our Central Plains Library System. Pretty much covers the center of our state. The middle part, talked about them there. The big space there. And she's going to talk to us about, this is a session that she talked to me about a month or two ago, about wanting to present on. So talking about your online identity, managing it for yourself, helping your patrons do it. Just basically all the kind of things you might need to know about that. So I will just hand over to you. Denise, you can take it away for your presentation. Alrighty, well thank you. Either keyboard or mouse, which everyone works for you. Okay, well thanks, Christa. I'm really glad to be here with you today, because I think this is a topic that we all think we know a lot about, because of course we've been online for a long time. But I do think there's still some things out there that everybody needs to know. So your digital footprint. We'll start with a definition. That's okay, I just needed to get it there. Your digital footprint is information about you that can be accessed online. Now there's two kinds of footprints. Your active footprint and that's information that you yourself have volunteered. And then there's your passive digital footprint and that's information collected and stored by someone else. The term digital footprint actually refers to both your active and passive footprints. So that means that your digital footprint can be very revealing and since they contain information collected and stored by other people who are not necessarily your friends, it's definitely something to be considered. Now your active digital footprint. As I said, this is information that you have volunteered yourself. Your social media account. Think about Facebook, LinkedIn and MySpace. And yes, those old accounts are still out there. Everything is still out there. Unless you completely deleted it and gotten closed down your account. I know I have a MySpace account somewhere. Somewhere. I have not done anything within years, but I also know that I did not delete it. So it's out there. And your blogs or websites, if you contribute to any regularly under your own name or an easy traceable username. A lot of times people write comments to newspapers, editorials. Those all show up. So it's important to know that they still will be there. When you think about the personal information that you've actually posted about your relationships, your breakups, addresses, interests, your work history, your contact information, what college you went to, the parties you attended while there, any illnesses you've had when your babies are born and believe it or not, sometimes there's even photos of the birth. So you have to be aware that you have posted many of you and many of your patrons have posted a ton of information about themselves out there. Now there are some fairly harmless bits of personal information that you can share. Things like your age and your gender, how many brothers and sisters you have, your favorite food, your pet's name. Most of this type of information is stored by the website it was posted on. But you do want to be careful because that information can be sold for advertising purposes. Now think about it when you look for a pair of shoes. Let's say you do a search on your favorite designer and you find a pair of shoes that you like on your desktop. You've done that search. The next time you go to Facebook, what's the ad that's right next to your feed? It's that pair of shoes. And then if you go to Amazon, there's going to be a big picture of those shoes with the price that Amazon's willing to sell them to you for. So just be aware that stuff, that's the footprint aspect of this. And for some people that's great and helpful and to some people that's invasive and scary. And frightening, very, very frightening. So that was just your active digital footprint. What you need to know is even though your active digital footprint contains a lot of personal information, it's not nearly as much as the passive digital footprint information is out there. There's things about your bank statements and your account information, credit scores, purchasing history. Think about it. If you buy something at particular stores and I'm not picking on Amazon but it's the one I know the most. It's a bookstore after all originally. But they store your credit card and debit card numbers and you're purchasing histories for long periods of time. Now it is, like Chris has said, very convenient when you go into Amazon and you've saved your credit card. It's really easy to buy stuff. So almost too easy. But it is a convenience. But you have to be aware that that leaves a digital footprint. Websites use cookies. I know we've all heard about cookies and there's been jokes and all of that. But they do track your users' browser, your browsing history and the general location. Smartphones. This is a whole new thing for passive digital footprints. You turn on that GPS. It's great to know what the weather is going to be and if there's traffic jams where you're traveling. But be aware that they track and save and broadcast your location sometimes even when you're not thinking that that's happening. Because when it's there, it's just always on. So applications. Also known as apps. Many people aren't aware when you say apps, the full word is applications. You need to, when you purchase an app or even get a free app to play a game, it requests access to many things. Like your contact list and your messaging history. And if you really want to play the game or whoever's in charge of that phone really wants to play the game, you have to give access to it because many of them won't work properly unless you do give them the access that they request. Credit and debit card information if you want to purchase apps. Even if you want a free app, sometimes they force you into putting your credit card number in even if what you're getting at that point is free. So, and even pictures can be stolen without the user's knowledge. Now I recently obtained my first smartphone. My grown children tell me I'm in the dark ages. But I did get my new smartphone. Now imagine my surprise when my phone knew that I had been searching for information on this particular presentation on my desktop in my office. When I opened my browser in my phone, the same search came up. Digital citizenship and I'm saying I've never searched digital citizenship on this phone. But I had on the browser in my office. Of course it was Google and I used my Gmail account both on my phone and on my office computer. So that's the connection. That's how they're synced. It didn't occur to me. Yeah, I've had that happen too. On that on my tablet or something. If you're in the same, you have a Google account that is everywhere, it's the same thing. It's all in the cloud. It's all synced and it freaked me out in the beginning. I'm telling you, I'm one of those that said, what on earth? How did that happen? But then the question is, who cares? Well, online retails and webmasters care. They want your internet browsing history. They want to increase the number of visitors to their pages. Your potential employers care. They're looking at your employment history, your criminal record, information displayed on social networking sites. They are screening applicants looking for the person that's really right for their company. So you have to be aware of that because if you share too much, they might decide that you're not for them. Criminals care. They love to find your credit card and your banking information, phone numbers, addresses, driver's license numbers, things that are identifiable as you, and then they can steal your identity. And also there's even, it's not a bad thing, but there's institutions studying human psychology. And they're out there looking for the data and analyzing it and searching for patterns and they call that reality mining. So there's a lot of people who care what's in your digital footprint. Something everyone needs to know and I can't say this enough. Your digital footprint is permanent. You cannot remove all traces from the internet. It's not going to happen. It can be difficult, if not impossible, for you to even find all the data that has been collected. And then in addition to finding it, you have all the things that you voluntarily supplied through your social media accounts. And even if somehow you do find all that data and you remove what you can because it belongs to you, having it removed from third party sites is a long and difficult process. And even if the information is removed from the active websites, it still exists in the form of cached pages, which are recorded copies of old versions of websites. Removing cached pages is so difficult, I would call it impossible. So you just know that your digital footprint is permanent. So as working in libraries and working in schools, we need to teach about online identity. What your digital footprint says about you. How wide is it? Does it reveal things you want revealed or things that you would prefer remain private? Adults that are new to the internet and children must be taught to protect their information online. The first thing you have to do is pick strong and unique passwords. Each password you use should be different. It should not be found in any dictionary. It's not your name. It's not a series of numbers. And it's really... I am still shocked to hear how many people use the word password as their password. They think it's clever, but believe me, that's the first one somebody's going to try. And if any website has set you up with some sort of a default password, like sometimes if you're setting up an account somewhere or getting set up to do like a WordPress site and they do tell you, make sure you change something else that you want it to be, do that. Don't accept the default password for anything. It may seem very creative to start with some random numbers and letters, but it came from their system, so they know it now and you need to change it immediately to something else. You do. That is because someone knows it. Now, I know, I have been in this position say, well, why can't I use my anniversary date every time? Because then I will remember it. Well, you can't do that. You have to have strong passwords. And something that might work for you is called a password manager or a vault. Sometimes I've heard them called. And LastPass is a company that offers this free. And their slogan is that it's the last password you have to remember. Now, there's lots of other password managers, so you don't have to use this one, but they all work the same, essentially. What happens is, you know your password should look like that, but who's got time? What you do is you set up your password so they're really strong and then the only password you have to put in is the one to your LastPass vault. It's a simple setup. It's free. Now, it's free if you want to use it on all laptops or on all desktops or on smartphones or tablets. If you want to cross devices, there is a premium account, of course, where you can make a purchase and have a premium account. But then it's easy. You just choose the one for you. There's a free one. And you only have to remember that one password and it will set up profiles for places you normally shop, passwords for your bank and passwords for your child's school lunch account, and all of those places where you need to have different passwords. The LastPass, certainly not the only password manager, but it is one that was recommended to me. And this is something, too, that you can use both on your desktop and a mobile device. It'll be the same account you can have if you've got a tablet and things to log into there. It's a good option to keep your passwords strong. Now, identity theft is something that has been on the rise and, of course, we all hear about it because Home Depot gets hacked, all the different places that have lost your banking information. Something that you might want to consider is going to paperless statements because it helps avoid documents falling into the wrong hands because, believe me, identity theft still happens from people diving in the dumpsters. And just picking up things that people drop on the street, they have many ways of finding out your information, and it's not always online. In fact, a lot of time is it's not. Sometimes, as you look a little further down the list, it's on the telephone. So many people offer information over the phone because the person on the other end sounds like they know what they're doing. They sound like they know I have an Apple computer and that I'm having trouble with it and they're offering to fix it for me. Okay, so then you give them all the information they need. But paperless statements, shredders, can't have enough shredders. Of course, the well-known one is you never click on links and emails from someone you don't know. It's impossible. You always end up opening some, but don't click on anything in them. And the telephone, it's not always high-tech. The rule of thumb is that you do not give out information online or on the phone that you would not give to a stranger on the street. If someone walked up to you and said, please tell me your bank account number. If you're not going to give it out there, don't give it out anywhere else. If someone comes asking you for it and you didn't know they were going to be asking for it, it came out of nowhere, but it sounds good or they sound like they know what they're talking about. No, be skeptical of everything. It's sad that you have to, but to protect yourself, you do. Don't trust anything just because those emails look like, oh, it's probably from my... I do have a Bank of America account. Yeah, I do. So it must be, don't back out of that, but contact them yourself and find out. That's what I've done a few times. I reach out proactively to a number or a phone call or something to my bank or my credit card that I know is a real one because it's off my actual card or my actual bill and say, are you guys actually doing this because I got this contact? Did you call me? Yeah. So now earlier, I talked about personal information and there's a lot of that out there, but now I want to talk about private information. And it seems like personal information and private information should be the same thing, but it's really not. Private information can be used to steal your identity and should only be revealed with caution. And this is where our children in the schools need to have that designation. If someone online on one of their children's sites asks for how many brothers they have or what is their favorite color or do they have a dog or a cat, it's personal information. It's about me, but it's okay to give that out because it's not identifying private information. Through the years, we've taught our children a lot of things but I think they really oops, there we go. They really need to know what is private. You never give out your full name, your street address, your date of birth. Of course, children don't have credit card information, but maybe sometimes they know where the credit cards are. The name of your school because it's not very difficult in this day and age to look up on the web, a particular school in a particular city and find out what days they get out early. And to be standing outside the fence. So personal versus private. It's very important to designate those things. Now another component of your digital footprint is your online reputation. And in this case when you're talking to adults it's one thing. If you're talking to children you explain something else to them. So we're going to start out with what you talk to adults about when you're explaining digital footprint actually even affects your online reputation and sometimes that type of word really rings true with older adults in particular because they've spent their whole life protecting their reputation and so it's important to them to continue to do that. So the first thing you tell an adult is to Google yourself. And I did that. Came up with and I put my name Denise Harders in quotations into a Google search. It came up with 540 results. Wow. I didn't think I had that much footprint out there. Now of course at the very top I didn't grab that from the screen but at the very top it gives images. Google images. Right. And so the first thing I saw was a picture of me which is a shock because I tend to avoid getting my picture taken again. I'm one of those people. I like to be behind the camera. I don't like to be in front of it but I actually did see two or three pictures that were me. They weren't compromising in any way. They were in activities related to my job but then the other thing that I saw that kind of surprised me were pieces of presentations that I've done. Apparently I had a name attached to something that got uploaded and so those pictures showed up on the images page. And then the other thing that it never occurred to me is of course our system has a web page and I go out and I take pictures of librarians and libraries and activities, never children but things that are going on in the different libraries. Well, since my name was attached to the website that those pictures were on, there were pictures of librarians on there too. So that didn't even occur to me. So then here are the first few results of my Google search about myself. Well, I'm on Pinterest. Yep, I know that one. That one's definitely me. I'm there all the time. I use it for display ideas. I do a lot of things with Pinterest to help my libraries find activities, find summer reading ideas and do displays. So I wasn't surprised about that. Then my sidewalk. Oh, yeah. That was something that someone called me about and offered me to go on the web and sign up and I did I looked at it carefully, talked to the person on the phone quite a bit. I thought it was going to be something that would really be helpful for my libraries. Either I didn't use it correctly or something, but it turned into one of those things I kind of forgot about. And then I also, when I was learning about things on the web, I made a Prezi a presentation and it's nothing spectacular. I kind of forgot it was out there. But so if somebody want to look at me on Prezi that you can pull that up. There's lots of things out there that you might have because there's so many new technologies or new websites or new services that come up. And I know I've done it. I probably can remember all the ones that I've tried out either for myself or to teach other librarians and then never continued with it, but it's probably still out there connected to me because I didn't get rid of it after I was exploring it and experimenting with it. Right. And then this 411 I don't know. It says view my phone number and address, but I think it's something that you have to pay for. It says there's two listings for me. I don't know if that's me or not, but that's always going to happen if you have a phone or a physical address in this country. Then I look at those two obituaries, harders being the name of the deceased individual. And then as I looked at the names, they're definitely not me, of course, because I didn't know who the person was, but there's, as a little side note, in that first obituary there is a Denise Harders. She is a younger cousin of my husband and all the Nebraska. Yeah, before the days of the internet, because it was when I got out of high school and my husband and I got married and then the pharmacy mixed us up, the doctor's office mixed us up. Everybody had us confused and so I was so glad when she got married and had a married name then the confusion stopped. But guess what? We're back to it again now. It shows up under Denise Harders. So those two obituary notices, the mentions of Denise Harders, ones from Illinois. So those are definitely not me. And then, of course, the regional library systems. Yep, that's me. So as you look through it, it's kind of like a walk down memory lane. But sometimes those memories aren't so good. So once again, we're talking about talking to adults about their online identity. The first thing you could do in a class about online identity is have everyone Google themselves. Not that they have to share it with the class because sometimes that's not such a good thing. You don't always find positive things in your digital footprint. Your online presence is always being evaluated and it's taken into account for a lot of things. When you're applying for colleges, when you're looking for a job, and even today people Google someone they're maybe starting a new relationship with. They want to know of any negative online activity. And in 2013 more than three quarters of the United States based companies actively researched online information about their applicants. And so posting negative and inappropriate comments, sharing private information, posting content pertaining to drugs or alcohol or even making grammatical errors in those postings can hurt your online reputation. So be aware as you're going through and as you're talking to people what their age level is. If they're people that are applying for colleges talk to them about what those admissions people are looking at. So when you let's say you do Google yourself and you find things you're not particularly fond of at this point in your life and you maybe don't want your perspective employer to find the first thing you can do is remove any content you own. If you have an old account in my space and can still remember the login and password. If you have an old web journal for a while those were big the live journals. Blogs, anything that you can remove that you don't like do so. Eventually it doesn't remove it like we talked about from those cached pages but they fall to the bottom and most of the time people don't look beyond three to five pages of Google. If they're researching you they'll look through the first three to five pages and if you get your stuff off of there those cached images won't show up. Something like a employer or college or something they'll go digging and digging. They're going to look for your most prominent appearance of yourself. What you've done recently you can untag yourself from those party pictures on Facebook or if the person is your friend you can ask them to remove the image completely lock down those social networks by strengthening your privacy settings try and remove old email addresses and then you can strip that personal information out of your Facebook page things that are include your education, your employment history your hometown those you can take out. Then you look at those settings on your social media that you do continue to use such as LinkedIn and Twitter in addition to Facebook and that will help you shape your online personality and reputation the way you want to do so and a lot of this is deciding how you want yourself to be presented. Some of this you might want to leave out there depending on what you're trying to portray. If you're trying to get a job you might want your employment history somewhere like in LinkedIn or somewhere because that's kind of the point and maybe even in Facebook at the basics just so that if that's what you're using Facebook and people do use it for either professional purposes or personal purposes or a mixture depending and so you'll have to decide for yourself what is your level of comfort in what you want out there and what you think you need to have out there. You'll look at it and see what you want for you if you want Facebook just to be personal get rid of all that work related stuff don't use it for that. That's fine and strengthen it up make sure those privacy settings indicate that. That's the thing too a lot of this stuff and I'm not sure if you're going to talk about it changes regularly too. The privacy settings that you can set on Facebook or Twitter or what you can have showing they're always making adjustments to how it works and so you can't just do this once you're going to have to go in and maintain it and double check it six months from now or something and see alright did they change how privacy works on something and now something is showing that I didn't want it to or did they add something new that I wanted to hide but I couldn't before. Right and then it is important one source recommended Googling yourself about every six months because it does change. You need to be aware of what's still there and what is showing up new and that part about your friends putting things up that's something too that you don't have control over and you might not think something new has been put out about you because you didn't do it somebody else might have and you didn't know it right now and that's the really hard part about the digital footprint because there's so much content out there that you did not put out there and you don't have control over it there is a theory that if you're looking for a job or you want to upgrade your digital reputation that you would go on kind of a PR you know run you put some positive things out there a project that you've worked on that turned out particularly well if you're using Twitter make sure that the tweets that you send out are all of the positive nature that you're following people in the in your industry try and get published in an online journal related to your industry all those things that will show up ahead of the old social networking sites so that's an idea that you may want to improve your reputation by posting positive things not only getting rid of the negative things now when we're talking to children that's where the terminology of digital citizenship comes in digital citizenship is defined as I said here that website is digital citizenship.net is defined as appropriate responsible behavior with regard to technology use and that's what we need to teach the children and a lot of times school librarians are being asked to do these curriculum teaching digital citizenship I believe it some of the e-rate requirements have school librarians teaching digital citizenship in the new SIPA rules Children's Internet Protection Act has for schools not for libraries that they need to teach courses in order to be in compliance with the SIPA for filtering and protecting the kids they need to teach some sort of coursework on cyberbullying, digital citizenship all that kind of stuff and that's on the school side so there are a lot of resources on the internet I'm going to list a few here digital citizenship is essentially character education for the digital age we're teaching the children digital etiquette there's a quiz on that brain pop site that lets them test and see if they're able to behave in a polite manner on the internet digital safety of course that's been number one from the word go so there's tons of sites I didn't list any ones in particular but every website I looked at had a component of digital safety it just is so shocking to me when I hear a 12 or 13 year old and I heard it just the other day again 12 or 13 year old was really enticed to leave their home to meet someone that they met online digital safety number one need they're teaching them about copyright because of course so much is available on the internet it's really enticing late at night when they're trying to finish a project to just copy and paste it lift it right up out of there so we have to teach them that the content belongs to someone else the intellectual content they have to know copyright basics and believe me copyright is complex enough it's really hard for adults so if you can find something that teaches kids copyright I think that's a good thing to use understanding cyber bullying like you mentioned Krista that's something that has come up and that makes them not a good digital citizen how do we act when we're online do you bully other people and there are individuals that will cyber bully that would never consider bullying in person because that anonymity really helps them it doesn't help them it causes them to feel more powerful and so they cyber bully instead and we've all heard the stories about what happens when too much cyber bullying happens to one individual horrible stories about that so cyber bullying is something else that has to be taught and even basic civics Sandra Day O'Connor the supreme court justice has a piece of this icivics.org because so much has changed by the amount of information that is out on the internet so our children have to be taught to behave in person but they also have to be taught to behave online how do you act and that's really something that could go for adults as well right true because that's where some of the problems come in is with the adults now another website that I know everyone has heard a lot about is common sense media I'd like to show you a little bit of how that website works I don't know if that's a link or not no it's not you can just open it up and type and go to it and type it in over over right there you go just open a tab so common sense media has many aspects they do reviews of books and movies they have family guides parental concerns this is a place you can send parents who are concerned about their children see all the activities they have their screen time cyberbullying haters privacy and internet safety we have the safety word again Facebook social media cell phones even so there's all kinds of information for parents on this particular website now when I go over to education that's the part that I use most often because the education drop down includes digital citizenship when you click on that there's they have three ways of delivering this curriculum and the scope and sequence is the easiest one for me when you look at this your digital footprint is listed here they have kindergarten through second third through fifth sixth through eighth and nine through twelve and I would say actually any of this upper level material would be usable by a library in a digital citizenship type class or in a you know digital um reputation one that I looked at in particular for third through fifth graders see it's so easy they have so many things parents having into the different levels and here are the lessons and the power of words that's part of your digital footprint because cyberbullying is something that you don't want to get involved in so if you just get the pdf of the lessons it seems like a lot of clicks uh oh I can't get to the lessons I forgot because I signed up I just signed up with of course once again it's leaving my footprint with Google and so but when you get there you can um see the actual handouts that you can give to your students or children um that come to the library in fact a passive program that you might be interested in is you could prepare a small poster and just haven't say how wide is your digital footprint use some of that clip art there was so you just type in footprint it was so funny all the different digital clip art that you can use free stuff with all these silly little footprints on one the big toes were on the wrong side I mean their feet were completely mirror-imaged but anyway you could use a clip art of footprints to draw attention to it and then have several of these worksheets just sitting there I'll bet you'll attract the attention of the parents for sure but maybe some for the kids too so there are lots of different handouts that are free and this is another case where I actually made the conscious decision to sign in to give them my information they have my name they don't have my address but they know where I'm coming from what library organization I work for um they can see what I've done with Google but it was a conscious decision and that's part of this because we can't go off the grid we can't stop living we can't stay out of the internet because that's the way we live now so we have no choice but when you think about it the initiatives that the schools are are doing now they have one they're handing tablets they're putting laptops in everyone's hands and it started out only at the high school level but now they are giving those out at middle school level some of them even into the upper elementary so with all those initiatives going on and even the most rural schools and actually the bigger schools are sometimes less likely to do that one-on-one initiatives so in our area here in Nebraska we have a lot of rural schools and they are going one-to-one with all the different devices and digital citizenship could be the most important subject of the day and that's being taught by the school librarians most of the time so there needs to be some different resources available and all those that I listed on the page before and I had a list of references that I accidentally clicked because I was trying to click on Common Sense Media you can go back to it and go back a slide if you want can I go there and then just do there we go yep so I used a lot of the all of the resources I used came from the Nebraska Access the new databases and I used the one that searches a whole bunch all at once so I was practicing what I learned at the database road show and I found I found so many things using that Nebraska Access database that I couldn't even believe how much information I found so it looks like I'm wrapping up a little early but do we have any questions let's see if anybody has any questions go ahead and type them into your question section of your GoToWebinar interface monitoring that here with a microphone we can unmute you but I will let you know for any of these resources the PowerPoint presentation that Denise used here I've got a copy of that it's going to be included when we put up the recordings you have access to all the slides any of the website she's mentioned I've already added to the library commission's delicious account where we save all websites look mark them all in there so you'll have access to that and I'll add links to all of this information too here as best I can I know they're within our databases for here in Nebraska but we'll have the information out there for anyone who can get to them online so in the recording you'll have everything you need hopefully so anybody have any questions go ahead and type no questions well it is just a I have been surprised just by how many of my devices seem to know each other and that's my age I think but it has been a shock to understand that if I search for something in the office then it's going to show up on my phone yeah if you're logged in, if you have that same Google account open and it can track what you're doing and then carry it over to your other devices yeah there's a lot of that connection some people do try to control that and I've never tried myself buy it whenever you're done with something or whenever you want to do something that you want to keep private you can log out of all of your accounts that might be tracking log out of your Google accounts that's one of the main ones that you can connect or along and then it can't know what you're doing if you're not actually logged into it you can make your you have to make your searching anonymous so that it can't be tracked yeah I saw a lot of that stuff that's a whole other level paranoia but just being aware I think that's the key just know that this stuff is out there that it exists so many people like you said people new to media maybe older people and new kids who everyone thinks and I personally hate the thing it's not a real thing it's a phrase made about all these people of a certain age that doesn't mean they inherently know how all this works they don't have the knowledge they don't magically know how to use all of this it doesn't work that way they need to be taught as well and they just don't know we do have a couple of things here oh a question that's a good question if you know that you're not the only person with the same name same exact name as yours should you warn a prospective employer that if they do Google search you that some of the things they find might not be you out there I would because when it was talking about Googling yourself they said if you're Sue Smith that you may want to add something such as your maybe your state even or your community's name to that search to limit the amount of hits that you get and to maybe see what actually does pertain to you and I think if you're really out after that good job I would upfront say when you search this you're going to find some things but it's not but it's not all me and even if it is you even if it is you and you don't have any way of getting rid of it like if you really blasted your last employer on some kind of a blog and you can't get rid of it maybe a little bit of advance warning to the people you're talking to about a new job you could give them the background for that if there's some kind of extenuating circumstances preemptively explain this is what this is what prompted that or even if it's something about yourself you were going through a tough time something was happening in your personal life that didn't necessarily show up but that prompted you to behave differently than you do now that was something that came up too just before coming just say I know that you're going to search me you're going to find some good things but there was this one thing tell them tell them it's better and then don't assume because you had the statistic there of how many employers actually do three quarters more are doing it's going to go up only going to go up only going up you have to assume they're going to don't hope they don't don't don't mention don't not mention it because they don't they're not going to tell you they're going to do this it's just part of the process now just like contacting your references who you've actually told them to contact they can actually now contact anyone they might want potentially but they can find other stuff out there as references these digital your digital identity out there and if there is something I think that is a good idea just say you're going to find this thing or you're going to find this other person yes we have the same name but you'll note that they live in Alaska I don't live in Alaska it wasn't me so just so you're aware you'd hope but you got to understand too who just like you're talking about teaching this kind of how to use this not all the HR people might be as as expert at searching as you might think right and they may blindly look at things and say oh well they did this thing in Alaska and robbed a bar or something so let's not hire them not thinking about or not realizing well maybe it wasn't really me it was just photos that are related to it see if it is the same person I look up myself and there's tons of different things out there and amazingly looking at my name in like you said in quotes cause it's just me and photos that's people multiple people have the same exact name I know and I'm not me not me well that one is the 1500 hits on my name Denise Harders that's not all you that's not all me popular but it's not yeah yeah so that's definitely a good question good idea and we do have a question in answer to the question about how to browse the internet anonymously something you can do in Chrome if you're using Chrome as your browser you can open it with a colon incognito window a separate tab that is and then it's not track what you're doing so if you do want to keep some of your searching like you said how it links that is something you can do too so you can look up information about that and it's going to be like this says it's specific to Chrome it's going to matter which browser you're using may have different features for doing that as well too and they said very specifically use something other than Google because Google and Bing both are designed to sell you things so that's why so many of your websites show up with ads that seem like this was made for me that's Google and Bing's work you can use there's there are browsers that don't keep other search engines that don't yeah history and those are things that it's if you put a search into a database of magazines I'll bet you will find several names that you could say anonymous browsers that's what I'd put if that's something that you're bothered by there's ways to get around and use something besides Google and it just depends on what you're searching for and what you are comfortable with being out there if it's something that you're not bothered by that you know you think it's useful that I was sort of looking for shoes and now to give me other shoes that look like this one that's exactly what I wanted thank you very much Google but if you don't like that then do something about it to make sure that it doesn't they're putting these they put these features yeah into their browser and everything to try and help you but not everybody agrees that that is helpful well it's like the location thing you know if you need to find a restaurant yeah if you need to find a gas station and directions all of that it's a convenience we all use those I was getting turned by turned directions to someplace in Omaha last week they had to know where you were and it's not anonymous it's where you and they had to know where I was to give me those directions so so you gotta give sometimes give some of your privacy out there to get these these to get what you want if you want to yeah well doesn't look like any other urgent questions have come in and we just hit 11 of one on my clock so okay nobody has any other desperate things you to add right now I think we could wrap it up thank you very much this is great I'm glad you this especially for some people that maybe having people using their computers that they know really should be told some of these things they don't know how to tell them this is be very useful I think a lot of these resources and especially the definitions of exactly what kind of what these different footprints are and identities and everything I think we very helpful so thank you very much I'm gonna switch back over to our here was so yes that will wrap it up for today's show there it's being recorded and it will be posted here this is our Encompass Live website right here at the bottom archive Encompass Live sessions we post all of our previous sessions here and I believe last week yeah we'll have the recording out to our YouTube account presentation will be on our slide share account here through the library commission and links will be in our delicious account all these online places that we use for the commission so we'll have that posted up there I'll let you all know so that will wrap it up for today's topic I hope you join us next week where our topic is board in the stacks developing a board game collection for your library this is specifically doing board game collections and events for adults in public libraries so having you know it's not just a kids thing and I'm sure many of you I do it we have we have gaming nights at our house or we go to friends house all sorts of different kind of board games we had a session last month of the month before about doing an event in an academic library and now here's the same kind of thing coming from on the public library side so if you're interested in doing that in your library definitely login or sign up for our session next week or any of our other upcoming shows we have them all this is on here September is all booked up I've got some coming for October so keep an eye on here for new topics coming up also if you are a big Facebook user and CompassLive is on Facebook go ahead and like us over there you will get notifications of when shows are coming up here every Wednesday I remind people they can log in on the fly if they haven't pre-registered to our shows and when our recordings are available I post up here as well so when today's recording is done you all put a message up there too other than that that will wrap it up for this morning thank you very much Denise for coming and joining us today thank you everyone for attending we will see you next time on and CompassLive bye bye