 on my wrist, fuck around, send a few guys in on your bitch, she get nasty on the dick ass, got me in class, hold the cheek, don't get that bad, fuck around and soon for all that. Check it man, check it man, check it man, hold up man, did you hear that man? I heard it man. It's your boy, he's CEO man. I mean when I, I'm gonna have to grant you one, I'm gonna have to do a boss house thing, so I'm gonna sell it man. Everybody coming through man, hold up, hold up, hold up man. Hey man, it's your boy, he's CEO man, I'm here with the lovely official Mr. Jamaica. And check it man, what's going on? Not my dad, what's going on? Hey man, we back man again. He goes down man, we got our guy in here today man, he needs no introduction, you know what I'm saying? My boy Trill is in the building, what's going on man? Go shit, go shit, what's up? Say man, you hear him now. Oh yeah, I'm in here. You made it now. I'm in here, I'm in here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you home, you home. Let's sit at the ground like bosses in town. Say man, we can't be like bosses when we are bosses, you know what I'm talking about. So man, you from Loanview? From Loanview, Born and Raised. Born and Raised, and just give us a little bit of background on who you are, just so the people who don't know who you are, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, I'm the nigga that I always been behind the scene man, I always behind the bushes, around the corner, you know what I'm saying? Man, did music all my life, that's just everything about me, music. When you started out, you was with a couple of more people, right? Yeah, yeah, I've been through several groups man, like I'm a little bit older. So I've been through back in the dance boogie area, but for that, you know what I'm saying? With the GZ trap shit back in the day, all the way up to now, you know what I'm saying? I had just evolved and evolved through time. Wow, wow. But yeah, I've been through a lot of groups man, out of Loanview man, Loanview Finest, man a bunch of groups out of them been in man. Anybody did, you can name out of Loanview or some of East Texas, I done worked with them. You know what I'm saying? I done started out a lot of groups too, started out a lot of people career. You're wild, that's dope man. So what, when you first got into this thing, you was producing, right? Yeah. Producing tracks? Yeah, first, I was starting in high school, I was a drummer, percussionist or whatever in the band and stuff like that. And got in some trouble, they kicked me out or whatever. Kicked out huh? So you always had the love for music? Always, always. I just, you know, so I just met my dad last year. That's the first time you met him? Yeah, so I always heard stories of him beatboxing and stuff from my mom and you know, uncles and stuff like that. So that's where you get it from, the music or? Yeah, so I kinda built my life around it, I guess, wanting to be like him. How did you, so you just met him? Just met him. But you knew of him? No, I wasn't. Did you ever know of him? Yes, I seen him, I seen him one time when I was 18, he came down. Wow. Or whatever, we officially got a DNA test couple years ago. So it really wasn't sure? Yeah, he wasn't sure. So that, how was that conversation, man? I was young, it really was him between you and me. No, I'm telling you, when you all were 18, you just not meeting him, how was that conversation? He really didn't want to speak on it or whatever, he was like, you know, we would just talk, he'd be normal talk or whatever. He didn't, I only met him, it was about like 10, 15 minutes and he left. He came down along with you cause he from up here in the old clip. And we kinda talked or whatever a little bit, but I was just too young, I was just happy to see him, you know what I'm saying, back when I was 18 and stuff like that. But how did it feel growing up without your father? My mom asked me that all the time, but I guess I got so used to it, it seemed like it never affected me, you know what I'm saying? I see now, subconsciously I didn't, but I see now when I see other people with their dads and how they went to college and their dad had them, you know, just kinda how I see you with your kid. Talking certain things, right. You know, teaching them little things that they should know, you know, bank accounts and you know, credit and stuff like that. I see that when I had to learn, but I learned from, you know what I'm saying, from street dudes, that's what I learned. I was around them type of people, you know what I'm saying? That's what I learned, different things, which is kinda bad in a way, but it made me who I am. You know what I'm saying? So you didn't have a father figure in your life? Not really, I had a stepdad, but me and him, we beefed all the time, you know. Straight up. Any siblings? Yeah, I got a younger sister, Rachel. So you're the older brother? Yeah, I'm the oldest out of all the grandchildren. Okay. You're kinda like Baby Boy in the movie, Baby Boy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're Melvin, you didn't get along with the niggas. Yeah, nah. Niggas coming up with cooking breakfast and stuff. Eat up all the foodstuffs. Everyone put their hands on me like that, though. Oh, so this niggas had a desk? Nah, nah, he wasn't. Okay, well, you know, okay, yeah, you wasn't trying to hear that. I wasn't trying to hear that. But I get it though, but I think that movie touched a lot of people because they could relate, man. Because that really was the way it went down a lot of times, and I was, you know, in our African-American home. Real talk, right, man. Really vital, man. I encourage all fathers to really be there in their life, you know what I'm saying, and really cultivate their kids, you know what I'm saying? We gotta have more than that, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, going back to the music part, you know, when I got kicked out of band or whatever, they put me in a different band hall by myself like in a detention thing because they didn't wanna change me to another class at their time. So I would write out beats. You know, I know how to write music and stuff. I used to write out beats and stuff, I had a binder full of it or whatever. So when I finally graduated from school, I've learned about, you know, L.F.L. Studio or whatever, which is a beat-making program and whatever, and I just learned, I'm like a master at it now, you know what I'm saying? You're a big ol' sponge. Yeah, for real. For music, actually. Yes, yes, yes. Business side, all of them. Do you have kids? Yeah, I got one daughter, man. Kinsley, she too. Oh, okay. Well, she too young to figure out if she's into the music, yeah. Oh, yeah, she into the music. You see it already. Already? Yeah, she, I can show y'all video of her singing my song, you know, after the, you know, after the weather, but yeah, she love the music. Business side also. Oh, yeah. That ain't gonna slide. That ain't gonna slide by me. You got a hand, you got a hand. You got a real business, man. You gonna be in this all, okay, okay. Well, let's talk about it then, nigga. Nigga, jump up on this show, don't business, man. See, you on the right, you on the right show today. I know it. Now, let's talk about it. What kind of business? Well, I own a business, you know, I own a appliance repair store, and I also sell those appliances, so. Okay, are y'all a sole proprietorship or a corporation? Nah, I'm a sole proprietor. Yeah, nigga, yeah, yeah, let's go, nigga, yeah, yeah, yeah. When, how did it go down? Did you get to see y'all? Did you go in that bootleague? Nah, I ain't going to bootleague and shit. It really will pass down for my grandfather, whatever. Okay, okay. So I took off and be in the family business, you know what I'm saying? All right, so did he instill anything in you about the business before he passed away? Or is he still alive? Yeah, he still is. Okay, good. Shout out to your grandfather. He still be up there feeling around, getting on my nerves and stuff, in the way. But I like that. That's a passed down business, so that's your mom's dad. My mom's dad. That's dope right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, that's what I'm currently doing right now. You know, that's how I fund my music and stuff. That's another thing I wanted to talk about, about these views and how niggas faking these views. And wait a minute, let me finish, let me finish. These niggas is faking these views. God, dawg, I ain't never seen anything like it. Yes. But then they acting like they getting paid from the music. I have exposed this. Shout out to ALD for calling me, checking me up on it. That, you know, it is something else that we have to try to understand how to turn our music into an ROI so we can gain, you know, momentum and putting money back into our people. Real time. So, what do you think? How do you think we get there? And how do you, how do you deal with the fact of putting money into something that you're not seeing that returning? And that is some good questions. Yeah, that's the story of, that's pretty much the story of East Texas. You know, I done seen so many groups come and go, come and go and get discouraged, putting money and putting money into something, but I just really still think that it's something at the end of that pot, at the end of that rainbow, you know what I'm saying? Like you're gonna have to invest. And I have seen things or whatever, well, we get close, but you know, sometimes it just don't go all the way through. And I, we just not starting- We get close, we get close, what do you mean? I'm talking about getting close to being to that stature of making your own money back off of your music. What the hell is close, really? Well, you know- I wanna know what close is. Okay, close is like, okay, we don't have record labels like in New York where we can just walk down the street and go see. So when you get recognition from a label and stuff and they want to fly you out, or you know, somebody reach out and say, man, I like your music, come meet me or whatever. I done started being with other artists that have done that. So that's kind of a recognition that I feel like that a lot of artists would never ever see in their life or whatever doing this and stuff like that. So that's kind of, I'm saying close to getting it. But we have artists like Cinco P, Young Puder, y'all look him up, you know what I'm saying? They don't actually make a number. I don't have to look up Cinco P. Right. He been here. He been doing it. This is the first interview he got. Right, right. Right here. Then he went to Genius after he left here. Yeah, exactly. So all I'm trying to say is let's go back to why this is not happening. Now you was down there, here we go. Yeah, I've been in the transition. So you've seen, how long you say you've been in music? I've been in music. Let me get him, let me get him. 10, 15 years. 10, 15 years. You've been producing music for 10, 15 years. Yeah. Okay, back then the radio was prevalent, right? Right. How many songs have you had played that you produced on the radio station locally in those areas? I'm talking about the stations in Texas. I had a lot of artists because of overtime. That's why I'm asking, I wanna know. But, How many? 15, 20. So didn't that mean it was getting spinned? I done heard. But no, just because you spend it one time don't mean it's gonna be heard. Well, they can't really just spend it all the time but at least you got spent once. Well, I feel like you got your own mix show. Okay. So I feel like back in the day they used to have a deal called Homegrown where they used to get local artists you're singing music in. Who was doing that? First started out with DJ Black. I heard about him. Yeah, DJ Black started the first back in the day and shit. Is he still there or no? No, he's still there. He's the program director now. Okay. But like kind of early on I heard in the other interviews like it's kind of corporation when it comes to radio. You really have to go talk to the big suits to really get on the full rotation and it costs money. But I feel like on the DJ's mix show you can throw a little bit of your East Texas artists inside of your mix. You know what I'm saying? Like you don't, I just don't hear it on the radio a lot and it needs to be more of that. It needs to be a conversation and we really need to sit down with these DJ's to make that happen. How could they, how do they do it in Dallas but they can't do it? They big radio stations over here? They doing it in Dallas, I don't understand. They radio stations big up here? It'd be the same excuse when we asked like you asked DJ Jews or whatever and we don't have no control over it or whatever and stuff but you were here, their artists on there or whatever which is no, and I love, I love, you know what I'm saying? I heard Smitty on there, you know, a lot and that was real good. I was happy about that, you know what I'm saying? But I feel like it's other artists too that needs to cause it's gonna shine light on the local scene of people and fans around here that help you get motivated to be wanna go and do more things outside of East Texas. So you heard Smitty on there, did you hear C.C.O.P. on there? You had over seven million views on that song. I ain't heard it, C.C.O.P. on there. You had over seven million views on that, I'd say seven million. Seven million, yeah. Seven million, go look it up on YouTube. Trust me. And I'm gonna be honest with you, I was looking at it trying to see how it spent that way. I mean, the comments are legit, everything was hitting on point. To me, to be honest and not to throw shade, if they working with them, I feel like they be on the radio more. Working with who? Like the DJs, that's a part of the the blaze radio station. If they working with them, how? If they working with them, how? Like, if they're artists? Artists, cause like, I used to work, if you know Camp Nowhere. He worked with, who was his, who was his brother? Camp Nowhere's like my little brother, man. We came out of a song called Bloody Mary. And he got that song played a lot. Because DJ Juice was one of our kind of DJs and we took him on the road, we took him on the road with you. So now you're telling me, so let me back up. So now you're telling me that DJ Juice does have the power to play the songs he wanna play. Yeah, I feel like on a mix show they do. And you've seen him play what was influenced at the time around him. And he's, but he is trying, right? He's trying, like, he talk about it all the time and what up to artists. He done had a conversation with us, like everybody. I'm gonna tell you, boy, there's some noses turning up behind you, like that nigga ain't trying to hold it. No, I feel like it ain't. I feel like it ain't. Sometimes they get stuck in their ways. I feel like that's what it is to me. Like, I'm not in the world. I'm gonna get him back on the show. He's gonna come back on. Now we're gonna have that conversation cause I'm gonna be honest with you. It has to be spoken on. Right, right, right. You know what I mean? I keep hearing it. So it gotta be, it's something, right, babe? But it's just two sides to everything. So I wanna hear his side. I'm gonna get him on the, I'm gonna talk to him when I go down to y'all show and I'm gonna ask him about coming on the show. But my inspiration or whatever advice I tell the artists around here, like I tell our own artists, really radio is starting to be like a dinosaur. You know what I'm saying? It is, but it isn't. Local people around there, it motivates to and encourages the community to steal. I don't think radio goes away. It don't go away. No, I think there's influencers in there that deal with the music industry and everything. So I can't just say it goes away. I remember a time back in the day if you had your song on the radio, you was the shit, you was the shit. But now I don't really matter. Now, we just heard your song on the radio. It wasn't on TV. It don't matter that much. It really don't seem like that, you know, since YouTube and technology is out now. You on TikTok now, you're doing something. That's God. You know, God had changed in there. He will. People can hold you back so long and then God said, you know what? Let me open another door. I'll open another door. Y'all prayers have been heard. YouTube is the answer to y'all prayers. What's the other one, Vivo? Vivo. What's the other one, Baby Patron? Is that it? I don't remember. Yeah, it's a bunch of them. Y'all else, y'all prayers have been answered. You can play it wherever you want to play it. Put your budget behind your own self, your brand and let's work, you know what I mean? And then you can't say you can't learn because you can get on YouTube and ask any kind of question you want to and just take it there. And take it there. And then a lot of time, the artists are not working hard enough here. There's not a lot of body of works out there. We hear a lot of people get one or two songs and they think they own it, it takes consistency. One thing that Jay-Z said to Kanye when they made that through the wire, he said, that's a good album, but can you keep doing it? Right, right, right. That's one thing that they drop in the ball in East Texas. There's several factors or whatever, but consistency, like you have to keep dropping. You gotta keep posting on your page. You can't post every two weeks. You can't drop a song every five months, six months. You know what I'm saying? You gotta really be in their face or whatever. It's like campaigning. When you're trying to become president, you go to city to city, you showing up, you showing people that you are worthy of your craft and everything, but if you just barely doing it, they're not gonna, it's kind of branding. They're not gonna remember you. You know what I'm saying? What are you doing to get yourself in a situation where you can be heard? What is Trillie doing? Right now I'm in the recording process. I'm gonna be honest. I just started being an artist this year for years and years and years. People would tell me, man, you need to become an artist. Saying you need to start getting behind that mic because I help write songs to a lot of artists that I work with and other artists that are whatever and stuff like that. I'm like, well, you need to try it yourself. And I finally got the courage over after all these years and it turned out beautiful to me. So I'm in love with it now. So I'm in the recording process now. I seen you in one of your video. You act like you know what you're doing. Oh yeah, trust me. I'm gonna go with you. Ask anybody out there they know. You've seen enough people do it. Yeah, yeah, you're right. You're right, you're right. So that's kind of how learning how to know what I need to do. Let me check this song out. I hope it's everything you're talking. Oh yeah, it's all right. If it ain't, it's gonna be weird. It's gonna be real weird if it don't jump. Come on. That thing got to jump, man. Mama Scott love this song. She do? Yeah. Well, we love it too if I turn my Bluetooth on. How did you meet Mama Scott? Man, okay. So I try to do a lot of things. After me doing music, I had like a voice in the streets or whatever of doing positive things. And I try to do positive things for the, you know, cause we don't have any platforms down there for artists to do their thing. So I came up with a group. We got a couple of other people and stuff like that. And we called, it was called the umbrella group where we were trying to put money in the pot to open up, you know, rent out venues for people, artists to come in and do songs and stuff like that to get more awareness. And Mama Scott heard, seen us on live or whatever. And she was mad about one of the dudes said something. So she hit me up. She was like, who was this dude, man? He just repeated something. I said on live, I think he copying off me. I said, nah, man, I don't think it's like that or whatever. And I started to tell a little bit about myself. Oh, she won a rough house. Yeah. She was rough houses, man. Oh, she won't thug it out. Yeah. She always been here. I hate to get her back on the show. I am the one. We, I like, I like to get out and like that. Yeah. Yeah. Mama Scott said, I said that the nigga bit my style. Yeah, yeah. That's what she said. That's what she said. So I went to her house and met her, I met her sons and everything. I was like, y'all are pretty dope and whatever. And back in the day, everybody knew me as mastermind or whatever. Ooh, that's a heavy name. Yeah. Yeah. I lived up to it, I feel like. And one of her sons was talking about a dude like mastermind like, man, I knew this dude mastermind back in the day, he used to make beats and stuff like that. And I looked at my arm, I said, that's me right here. And they were like, they damn the damn, die the whatever, whatever. You've been putting that work in, that's God, man. I have, I have. I was like on, I was on YouTube a long time ago, back in 2007, you know what I'm saying? How many scrubs you got there, nigga? Oh, I ain't, I ain't gonna lie. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You ain't counting a lot. The white boys was on there, I said so, seven. I only got about 500, man. Yeah, yeah, that's cause you ain't working though. I wasn't working it for it, I was putting all my- She'll be rich now. I'll put all my gifts into other people, I feel like. A lot of people let me down, you know what I'm saying? You know, that's the first thing I check niggas up on is the fact that you got that part as your business now, Mano, that's one of your most important and central elements is your platforms, your social media platforms and TikTok and all that different stuff. A Facebook, Instagram, likey, huh? Right. But everything happens for a reason. So sometimes you had to go through all of that because we're got intent for you to be, he wasn't ready for you to be yet. You had to learn certain things first. Exactly, you're right, right. And I'm happy to be at this point right now, you know what I'm saying? And but Mama Scott, like, she, I owe her a lot because East Texas was dry bones until that woman got on the scene. I'm telling you, when we became, we created that fast batch, that was the first melting pot in years where all artists had got together and seen that stuff on a high statue, you know what I'm saying? I like it. So producers start working with producers, artists start collabing. They learned about TwinVisuals. TwinVisuals will tell you that's when he first got his start. We introduced him out there or whatever. Matter of fact, I got him to shoot a video at FastBass during the performance of Cam Nowhere or whatever and stuff like that. A lot of people were like, they were liking him. So he kind of grew out for that also. But yeah, I mean, Mama Scott is the goal. She the one turned this whole deal around him. I promise I owe everything to her. She woke me up because I was discouraged at that point. You know, I've been doing this for so long and everybody I helped or whatever, really turned it back on me after they, you know, or they gave up or whatever, but I still had more with me. You know what I'm saying? Out of the time that you've known her, what is the one lesson that she's given you that has stuck with you ever since? Man, she got so much love and no hate. There's one thing that I have, like I see people do her wrong and she'll still turn around and love them. And at the end of the situation, they'll turn back and love her more, you know what I'm saying? Like putting gifts in people and inspiring people. When she go live, she was just going live while I go. When you get through watching her live, you're gonna be inspired. You're gonna wanna go do something or whatever. So she is really a voice, a big voice of East Texas to me, you know what I'm saying? But love, spreading love, that's what I see. You know what I'm saying? Because she could have stopped it promoting her sons or her team, but no, like she just created fast bars, you know? That's where a lot of people, man, you just see them kids up there. So how happy they been. They never have been in a, you know, a crowd that big to show their talent. And like, that's just something that you can't, there's more than money, you know what I'm saying? She has a great energy. The things that I've seen in her since I met her, I just recently met her and I like what I see. Me too. Until she showed me flaw, I'll never call her, you know, I would never say it. She ain't show me yet. I've been by her side three years. That's dope. And even then, you know, we all have flaws, so you're the first one. Oh, yeah, no, no, no, no. Even when a person show their flaws. You don't got no flaw or no flaw in me, man. I don't know what she talking about. Listen, man. I'm not trying to hear about her. She know all your flaws. How many years y'all been together? We've been together a long time, but let me just be real with you. First of all, you said right Jesus when you said that because I'm covered in the blood. You know what I'm saying? So how could you be flawless when the Bible says be perfect because he is perfect? No, you ain't as perfect as Jesus is about you. Yeah, but he says to be perfect. Yeah, he's telling you. So if you believe in him, then you are perfect. You are perfect. You'll be honest, but at the end of the day, if you start looking at all the things that you fell in, you'll never accomplish anything. You'll never accomplish, yeah. What I'm telling you is, man. It's perfect for us. You gotta focus on the prize and every time you have a fault, you should press forward. You should never look back. No. Y'all ain't ready for me. You can't. Y'all too busy looking at the issue. You can't. Instead of being the solution. Yeah, man. I'm falling in the light. I can't see nothing else. I'm trying to get there. All right, come on, Prince. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you call it what you want. I'm trying to get there. You know what I'm saying? So yeah, yeah. Until we get there, we gotta be covered by him. We gotta cover him. Gotta have God. I think you say you got a kid. Yeah, I got a kid. Ken's little man. It's my baby. She's two years old. And she's just like me. Yeah, you say y'all sing together? Oh yeah, we'll be singing together. Rap together? Oh yeah, I'll be writing songs in the truck. I'll be playing beats. She be back there screaming. She don't know what she's saying, but she be back there screaming. Man, let me tell you something. KLC told a story about his daughter. KLC would beat about a pound when he was on here. And he said that when they did Body Body, the song, you remember Body Body? He said that I say, well, how did you come up with that beat? And I thought he was gonna say something extraordinary. But he did in a sense. He said he went upstairs and when he came back down, his daughter had hit the beat machine. And when she hit the beat machine, that's how you get that beats that you hear from Body Body. Dang, that's crazy. That's crazy. He just heard hitting the beat machine cause he told her don't be messing with it. Right, right, right. And he said- He was playing the drums. Yeah, he had been messing with it. And he kept- God dang, that's dope, right? That ain't no guy, man. He had a massive hit, right? Right, and it was recording. And then he sent her out of the room. And then when he went back to start his work and he was listening to it, he heard it. He was like, that's it right there. That's it right there. That's crazy, that's crazy. Yeah. Man, you just never know me and what I got. I know you can relate cause it's producing music. I'm kidding. I feel like God gave me everything to say, you know, when I write these songs and stuff like that, I don't even be able to- I go back and listen to them. I'm like, how the hell I come up with that punchline? You know, all that, you know, but- Let's do what you got, man. You know, hopefully God will help you with this one. You know what I'm saying? Is that it? That's the beat. That's one of my beats. Okay, that's the beat. Let's check it out, man. All is you. Yeah. Say, look out, yeah, yeah, yeah. Come back down. I'm floating, nigga. All right, yo, I see y'all. That's the flute back there. The flute back there. Yeah. Trilley with that heat, with that heat. Yeah, yeah, that's some light work, light work. Straight up, straight up, yeah. I like that, man. Hey, I'm bringing a, shout out to 88 and DJ Ice and Trillie and Sergeant Jay, all the producers that been coming on the show. My boy, Mad Max. Mad Max, yeah. I'm gonna put y'all on the panel together. Everybody bring their beat. Let's do that. All they want, I'm gonna do it two at a time, but y'all can't know each other. Right, right, right. I wanna come and get these coming, say, I'm doing that on Boss Talk. That's my thing. I like that, I like that. I'm the only one, nigga, I got plans, nigga. I can keep going, you know what I'm saying? But it's gonna be something to where I'm gonna match up to two guys and we just gonna talk about the way to deliver, the way to beat or be in process. Process, nigga. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We got something else going on over here. I don't know what the other folks doing. I don't know what they doing, man. They sleeping, man. But I like that beat, man. Appreciate it. I mean, I wish you'd have sent me more. Well, I went there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get excited. You do it like Boss Talk 101. No, I don't, man. I'm telling you right now. It's a hell of an interview when you start watching. Let me get... So the other one that you sent me, Chelsea Henderson sent something, yeah? Hell, Chelsea. It's an ain't no interview over. I told her to send it for me. Is that yours? Okay, that's you? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, let's get to it, then. I thought she was trying to get back on the show. She gonna sneak back in and punch her a little way back in. Okay. That's it, right there. Shit. That sound like you got a whole school field to it. That back, that that down. That's it. Shit. Shit. That's it. That's it. I like that, man. I appreciate it. Say, man, I got it. Now I play it when I want to, nigga. That's how I be getting y'all to send me all music, nigga. Then I just go home and vibe out, nigga. For free, nigga. I'm robbing you, nigga. Yeah, nigga, keep sending them songs. I'm gonna play them all night at the house. I ain't gonna lie to you. I be so busy listening to nothing. For real, man. For real. But I like that, man. I appreciate it. Hell, what's the next? I get songs so quick. My partner Dallas Pee just did one with Erika Banks. He sent it to me. It's like, I got to hear that whole, just to see it. Yeah, they want me to hear it. Yeah, I got one. What you think? That's love, man. A lot of people send me their word. They know you got to hear it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, man. And I ain't trying to tell nigga what he want to hear either. I'm gonna tell you, nigga, the truth. That song right there, man, had a good feel to it. I mean, to be honest with you, I can't say that it's the best I ever heard. I got to be real with you. You got to do stuff on a whole nother level with all the music. You got to do stuff on a whole nother level with all the over-saturated stuff we're dealing with in the market. So even if you got a song, you got to have five songs. Even if you got a song, not only do you have to have five songs, but then you got to have five visuals to go with the song. You got to go over the top when it comes to dealing with what we're dealing with today. And most people don't understand, but it's really, it's content over create. Meaning at the end of the day, quit thinking about how I'm gonna be romantic with it and get it just right. Put out some stuff. Put out whatever you got. Because at the end of the day, nigga, forget about you quick right now. I'm telling you. If your music ain't coming, you got to have something quarterly. The way they make this technology is, man, it's people going to slip you up. Like you got to come with it because it's so easy to make a record. You can do it at your own home. You can put it uploaded at your own home. You don't really need all that what you had to happen back in the day. All them engineers and marketing people and stuff. You can do it all yourself. Definitely. So don't slip. Don't get the shit out. You got you holding on music. Go and put it out. Top three artists all time. Dead or Alive. Dead or Alive. Any genre. Yeah, you knew it. You didn't hear this five, six times now. Three times. Really? About three times. I fuck with Boosie, man. Boosie? That's your number one? Shout out Boosie, man. I love Sam Cooke. I don't know if y'all know him. Which one? What the hell you mean? Sam Cooke. Sam Cooke. Everybody knows him. I'm saying you don't know if we know him. Some people don't know him, man. That's that old school. You know what I'm saying? I'm not gonna be honest with you. Ain't old enough to be telling me about what old to be on with nigga. Then I'm gonna come over here and tell him about old school. Yeah, that's it. Y'all niggas, man. It's so many banniers when you take them earphones off. Nigga, you ain't not old school. Number three. Man, it's so many, man. I can't really just put it in. Number three in the spot, but I'm fucking with Kodak right now. Kodak? I am. That nigga bad too. That's the first Kodak. No, that nigga bad. It might be, but I've been doing it. I've been waiting for him. It's not even his music, just him as a person around. as whole brain, that's what you're saying. I love everything that he do, you know. It's a way that they make that happen too. It ain't just, it happening that way once you've been doing it, longest Kodak's been doing it, you know how to initiate what's going on with your brain. And people don't realize that and that's a craft within itself. Right, right, right. He can go to jail and come right back out. Gucci the same way. Gucci man good too. Gucci man the same way. Gucci know exactly what he doing with 1017 right now. Oh yeah man. And I can tell you, when he first did it, he didn't give no change out of nothing. And he still was influenced the whole, the whole culture. The music, yeah the industry was influenced by the early on. Yeah by him, his sound and everything. You know what I'm saying? I mean shout out to Tiff and him, they did that thing but. They did that trap music stuff. Yeah but it ain't really just, it ain't. It wasn't like, it didn't have that style like when him and what's that producer, Zay Tobin, when they came out with they duo, like that changed the whole sound of Atlanta music too. Shout out to Zay Tobin. That nigga be hitting me back in my DM. How he do? The realest niggas out here. Yeah the nigga posted me on his page too. Shout out to that nigga. Yeah he posted boss talk on his page. And that's what I'm talking about you know. A lot of people be talking man. But at the end of the day, at the end of the day you know when you posting my stuff on your page and liking the stuff we doing and talking back in the DM. Because it's a lot of fake people out there bro. A lot of fake people out there man. It's a lot of times I done things and actually you know when I was doing it it didn't seem like it was even you know a hidden right. You can go ahead and but at the end of the day he showed me love. He showed me that people out there that do got a million views will highlight you. You know what I'm saying? Right you're right. And you don't see that a lot. So shout out to Zay Tobin man. I'm gonna tag him in this too. Cause I know he gonna look at it. Oh yeah. You know most niggas ain't even looking at it. They acting like they too good cause they got a few followers and all that. They ain't got beside they self. Nigga y'all see the mics. I ain't gonna get arrogant on you. Y'all see the cameras. Y'all see the angles. Yeah, let me talk my talk right quick. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah. Y'all you gonna let him see it. Yeah. We gonna shine. We gonna let him see it. But I know the thing I can say is I'm not being arrogant. I'm saying we putting a lot into making sure we show some artists out of the Dallas, East Texas, Arklatex area. Dallas Fort Worth. Shout out to you know Supreme and Cabe Breeze for coming through the other day. Oh yeah. Everybody that been on the show man the lineup is crazy you know what I'm saying? I'm praying you can continue to grow man. What you talking about man? You know God already said it. He already said he's already here. You here ain't you? Yeah. This stuff ain't really in hell. This stuff paid for. And insurance is on you good. Get comfortable over there. Oh yeah, I'm gonna get comfortable. I'm gonna get comfortable show. Yeah I'm in my last time. With them? Okay. Yeah okay man you know the thing I definitely want to recognize the fact that the way you guys are moving as a unit. The way you guys are putting up your money. I know your boss is you belong on Boss Talk. Because the conversation we done had, we know the real bosses. Niggas who, bosses is who put up money. Money, yeah. You know if you want to be a boss or your brand puts some money. You got to. You know what I'm saying? You can't be being cheap on nothing. And I see you guys, I see you guys bossing up. Yeah we're not missing no steps man. We really putting. Traveling? Yes, traveling everywhere. We just came back from Miami you know what I'm saying? Was it Atlanta before? We've been in Atlanta about four or five times this year. I see him. Oh yeah, so we've been doing it. It takes all that. It takes all of that. It takes all of it man. They get better and better and better in time. Yeah man, that's what I'm talking about man. So if you could talk to the younger you. Yeah. When you first was getting duped by all them people that you got duped by Niggas. When they was yeah, taking your beats and all kind of stuff. What paying you? What giving you recognition? You was about what 16, 17? 16, 17. What would you say to that guy to try to help him to get through those curves? I would tell myself to go and get behind in Mike. You know what I'm saying? Oh early on. Yeah. I kind of like came up with a little alias like it's Trio Kanye. Cause I kind of mind myself as you know, Kanye West a little bit because he made his own beats at first and then he started spitting. You know what I'm saying? So that kind of made me kind of want to get into that or whatever I'll start calling myself Trio Kanye. You know what I'm saying? Already man. But yeah. But yeah, heck yeah man. It's a journey though. Tell us cause I know we gotta get you out there cause you gotta shoot to get to. Yeah, yeah. Tell us how we can get a hold of you man. Look at that camera right there. You can get at me at at say underscore lookout underscore Trillie on IG, Facebook, same thing. Say lookout Trillie everywhere. YouTube, Twitter, TikTok, all of that man. Check me out. Check me out for real man. So you know, I hope you enjoyed the show much as I did. Oh yeah I did. You know, you guys are coming through man. We're blessing you man. We're saying, you know, we're looking out. Oh yeah. Appreciate it, appreciate it. Your fans are butts about it man. Yeah, yeah man. You got to. Hold up man. You got, we got one man. Sometime you got a front of the guy. Maybe you know I'd be recording up here on Fridays and stuff man. You know to just come up here. Now why the hell you calling me in the middle of my show? Well nigga, come up here and don't call me. You know not to call me. I got a guy here worth a million dollars right now. Y'all only want to talk about now you're fanning out. I got to go man. That's how we do. We might do anything on here. Ain't gonna lie to y'all. You know what I'm saying? We free. You know what I'm talking about? We free. We gonna do it the way it supposed to be done. We ain't cutting none of this out. Man, I can't wait to see y'all come to FADBAD though man. Say man, as long as y'all give me a room. I got your room. Where I can set my setup up like this. Because all this is gonna be there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I gotta be able to talk to people and they gotta come over and sit and talk. It gotta be boss talk, it gotta be boss talk level. If y'all artists, if y'all not even performing at the FADBADs, come in and get with these media people man. Cause that's gonna be another level getting y'all more exposure. Especially boss talk one-on-one. You got to come get that interview, exclusive interview with them. I'm gonna be honest with you. But don't cause you some money though. Yeah, yeah, it's gonna cause you something because just saying, I really don't charge nobody. I'm looking at the talent. I ain't charging not one person. I don't do none of that. All I do is basically pick the talent I wanna deal with. And at the end of the day, I feel like, you know, when it's time, it's time. But right now I just wanna, I wanna bless people. I'm blessed. Got you. You see what you had. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It ain't hurt. Right? So, are we hearing, babe? Oh man. You checked your cat? I don't look like y'all heard it. Already. You don't talk about it, man. Y'all look like y'all heard it, man. But no, man. At the end of the day, man, we thank you for coming on. Oh yeah, I appreciate it. Say it truly, we love you, brother. Appreciate it. And at the end of the day, man, babe, you know, we gonna pull up on them at Fast Bad. Oh yeah. Shout out my team, Fast Entertainment, man. Mama Scott, DJ K, AJ1K, the journey, franchise, she handy, you know what I'm saying? Everybody else in our corner and everything. Shout out my big bro, Bigger Bad Tim. Oh, y'all, man, like, whole East Texas, man. Already, man. Say, man, hey, man, it's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. And we out.