 Hey, it's time for voiceover body shop tech talk number fifty Five fifty five I can do that one. That's an easy one. Yeah, what am I gonna come up with the scoreboard? I just have to get Sue ready for that one. I keep forgetting So anyway, yeah, it's tech talk number 55 if you have a home voiceover studio tech question We'd love to hear from you. Just throw it in the chat room or if you're on clubhouse live Men raise your hand in there and we will get to your question in just a little bit But George, I got lots of stuff to talk about tonight lots of gear and and we're gonna have a little discussion on Whether you should use a dynamic mic or not. When is it appropriate? When is it appropriate? And if at all so stay tuned time for voiceover body shop tech talk right now From the outer reaches they came Bearing the knowledge of what it takes to properly record your voice over audio and Together from the center of the VO universe. They bring it to you now George Wittem the engineer to the VO stars of Virginia Tech grad with the skills to build set up and maintain The professional field studios of the biggest names in VO today and you Dan Leonard the voiceover home studio master professional voice talent with the knowledge and experience to help you create a professional sounding home VO studio and Each week they allow you into their world making the complex simple Debunking the myths of what it takes to create great sounding audio Answering your questions showing you the latest and greatest in VO tech and having a dandy time doing it Welcome to voice over body shop tech talk Voice over body shop tech talk is brought to you by voice over essentials comm home of Harlan Hogan signature products Source elements remote studio connections for everyone voice actor websites comm where your VO website isn't a pain in the butt VO heroes comm become a hero to your clients with a word winning voice over training J. Michael Collins demos when Quality matters and voice over extra your daily resource for VO success And now live to drive from their super secret clubhouse and studio in Sherman Oaks, California Here are the guys Well, hello there. I'm Dan Leonard and I'm George Wittem and this is voice over body shop or VO be Tech talk tech tech talk tech talk tech talk All right, thanks. It's time time for tech talk And we're here to talk about your home voiceover studios So again, if you got questions throw them in the Facebook chat room in the chat room in YouTube And if you are on clubhouse, we'd love to hear your voice. So raise your hand in there You know George and I do this stuff with home voice talk about a niche market You know, we can talk about this a little bit later. Everybody else is saying well, they're an expert everybody else is an expert in one studio their own George and I have worked on thousands of home voiceover studios and actual voiceover studios Not that your home voiceover studio isn't an actual voiceover studio, but you know what I mean It's an actual voiceover studio that happens to be at home. Absolutely Professional personal studios is not what we were calling them at one point at one point But everybody but no everybody keeps calling it a home studio. So it's what if you're not actually in your home, you know Man, we're like in a shed in the backyard That's right in your she shed your show you shed she shed studio. Yes, you know We mercy has your new she shed and she's been sewing silk sheets in her she shed There's Marcy sell seashells in the she see shed in her she shed that there's no seashells in there yet But I may just dump a bag of him in there just to see what her reaction is Anyway cucumber and a cat. No, no trust me Google it Comprompt cat. Yeah Look look up on YouTube put in cats and cucumbers. Okay when I trust me if you haven't just trust me, okay Anyway If you need help with your home voiceover studio and what that could mean you got a technical issue Something's not working. Something doesn't sound right. You get a notice from a client saying There's something wrong with your audio Or you know something along those lines or you don't know what Mike to have or you don't know how to set it up There's only one place you well There's two places you can go and that's talk to George or I and start here Then you find out about the two of us right and then you find our two websites, right? You know not that we don't work together every now and again No, we bounce stuff off of each other all the time. Oh, yeah I mean we are a hive mind when it comes to this sort of thing Which is which is why you're here watching voiceover body shop tech talk right now but if you want to work with George and The guy knows what he's talking about. Where would they go? They go to George the tech Okay, that's the domain. I'm not stuttering. That really is it George the tech. My name is my address If you want to head over there, you can book services services through my automated booking system You can get a sound check. That's the least expensive and simplest thing to do if you have no idea what to do just start there and Design studios from the ground up really kind of just about everything But I'm not the only guy. Maybe I'm a little too booked up right now Maybe you need another guy to get you through something Dan is my is my henchman my henchman. No now Dan Dan Does this a lot of the same stuff over in his corner of the web and that is home voiceover studio Com yeah head on over there. You know, I I like to think that I'm you know I feel like a therapist a lot of times when I'm working with people You know, there's this how do I do this and how do I do that? Calm down? I know it's not it's not rocket science, you know, unless you're doing something for NASA and And well, I can talk you off the ledge. How often do you say why did you buy that? At least two or three times a day Which which we will get into a little bit later And I have a great service as as is George I've got my specimen collection cup over at home voiceover studio calm We're on and if you've got your studio set up and you got all your equipment and you want to see if it sounds right You can put a specimen in my specimen collection cup Which is a dropbox and I will give an analysis to your audio very thorough And if I think you need lots more help We can propose something to make sure that we get you sounding the way it's supposed to sound like so whistle That's right. Anyway, let's get into the meat of the matter this afternoon or this evening or whatever time you're watching this It could be lunchtime in Australia because we have viewers all over the world listening and watching our show But let's get into George's tech update what you got this week Well, I thought I'd go with a couple of my favorite things One of them has been a favorite for a little couple of weeks And one of them is becoming a favorite because it hasn't broken during the show yet That's a good parameter to use Yeah the first one is if you're looking for a Mike arm or a boom arm or whatever that you can mount to the wall of your booths or To a workstation or if you're daring like me, we don't always recommend it, but directly to your desk I've got one that I've been pretty happy with so there's the really really cheap ones You'll see on Amazon now And there are a ton of them Tons of them for like $20 with springs on them and they're very lightweight metal and flimsy and If you're putting up a $40 USB mic fine But if you're strapping up a hundred to thousand dollars to three thousand dollar Mike You want something really sturdy and possibly also really good-looking And that's where this gator Frameworks three thousand mic arm comes in You can see the business end of it and Let's see. What can I do to show a little bit better? Well, it's you can see the the main most important part of it right here, which is this arm It's aluminum arm, and then it's got these locking Nobs so you can exactly precisely make them wheels. Yeah, these big thumb wheels You can mount exactly where you want it to go and have it stay there So it'll stay where you put it But you can still Do this move it around Now I like this thing It's got an internal mic cable which some people bulk at the idea because they're like well if that cable breaks What do you do? Well if that cable breaks You just snip it off right here and hit the bottom and you just run another cable Okay, because you can't change the cable. I agree that's not the greatest thing But it's really very sturdy as a really good mount the hardware is nice It looks really good, and it's way less expensive Compared to the the Micah arms from Yellow Tech, which are triple the price so Those are good-looking Mike arms, too But if that's a little rich for your blood, this is a nice one really really happy with it I have an additional accessory, and it's not the I got back So that's not your COVID sticker there the COVID sticker that matters, but there's a little extra accessory a map mounted to it This is made by our buddy over at the Hook Studios The guy that made the pop screen that goes on the end of the shotgun mic And the little tiny pop screen that we had e-wabs printed on I wish I had one with an arms reach, but I don't Anyway, he makes these little tiny Suspension units now the one I have right here is a early early prototype and as you can see The glue is coming up getting a little bit of separation there Yes, so this is a very early prototype, but this is now something he sells At the hook studios comm and it's an alternative to a normal shock mount. So instead of having a giant Suspension thing with elastics that wear out this Does a pretty good job of stomping a lot of noise and vibration and it's very compact So I kind of like that. So that's something you can check out moving on Okay, so so far Nobody has complained about my audio glitching and my camera image is skipping. Yeah, so we'll mention my new camera I'm using a camera called the Mocos that's the M-O-K-O-S-E You see 70 and this is a 4k USB 3.0 Webcam and that's not so unusual Dan's got the Logitech Brio 4k, which is fantastic as you can see how good the color is This one the colors a little bit of the a little ticks a little work to get it dialed in But what I like about it is the lens has a manually setable focus zoom and iris So you can it's like having an old-fashioned camera You can set all that and then lock it down. It doesn't Focus in and out. It doesn't get wonky with different colors of lighting It just stays there and so I've been very happy with it and so far so good tonight And if you heard me glitch or skip seen anything weird you sound perfect tonight, okay? Well The sound it sounds pretty well sorted. It was just we were having these glitches that were driving me crazy So, you know, it's gonna be sent right back or at least sold is my My ultra studio recorder from black magic because I've been having trouble with it Now, I don't know if it's a fault of that piece of gear Chrome or the combination or The fact that I'm on an Apple silicon Mac As you are Dan, I know this So I don't we're not sure what that is. We'll talk about silicon Mac in a minute about whether you should get one down or not Next thing on the list. I've got a screen share going here of Twisted wave with two different noise reduction plugins and we all know we prefer that we Not have to use stuff like this but we do also know a lot of you voice actors are in noisy cities and You're just trying to do whatever you can't do to pull off And so I just want to show you these two plugins because they're quite a contrast to each other So on the right is isotopes RX. This is their voice D noise plugin It's part of a bundle. You're gonna spend if you're getting on a super duper sale on the elements package It can get very affordable most of the time it's gonna be between a hundred forty To five four hundred dollars And you're buying a whole bundle of plugins that you may or may not need if you want something to just deal with noise I stumbled on this one. It's called the Bertam denoiser B-e-r-t-o-m Maybe it's made by two buddies Bert and Tom. I don't know but it's the Bertam denoiser and what makes this one different from our X's voice denoise and also the denoise the noise reduction tools in Adobe addition and in audacity things that where you select and sound noise print and Then it learns it and tries to mathematically algorithmically remove it This one doesn't work that way. This one's using very much more of Audio processing tools that are sort of based on what we would call a multiband Expander and so the long and the short of it is is it doesn't really make much in the way of artifacts You know how when you over denoise something it sounds kind of weird and swishy and sometimes some might say robotic Yeah, it does that weird sound This tool doesn't do that Now if you overcook it it starts to sound a little muted or muffled But it's quite amazing because you can use it in real time too. What do I mean by that is? Let's say you want to use this with something. That's a doll like Reaper or Pro Tools or logic This plug-in can be used while you're actually recording. Oh, so on and you can use this front end It has very very low latency So when I I'm gonna I'm gonna make sure this is bypassed this plug-in I'm gonna close this actually and if I hit play let's see if this is gonna go I need to change audio devices to make sure this goes out to the world and That should do it So a crowd of a thousand seagulls came to dodge and you know what that's not working because Bluetooth is Degrading the audio quality. Oh, so that was a surprise. I didn't think that was gonna happen Sometimes when you use Bluetooth with the board it it it dumps down the audio and it becomes low-fi like a telephone call So that didn't work But what I would recommend for you guys is to at least try it and the reason why it's a good one to try is because there's no Feed to use it you can pay what you want. It's what they call honorware So you can get it and pay zero dollars and try it and if you like it Well, you can do what I did which is go back and then buy it for whatever dollar amount you prefer and It's it's it's a really good sounding tool And I was just really incredibly impressed with it because for what a cost and the fact that you can actually use it In a signal chain even while you're doing something like source connect if you know how to set that up and I can help you with that You can use a tool tool like this to clean up a really difficult noise Situation and it does it pretty pretty well Excellent moving on let's talk a little bit about Silicon the Apple Silicon Macs the ones that came out Back in November. I guess it was or late October. So Dan and I are both using them. I will tell you that Overall, you know, there are mystery glitches Dan's gonna talk about his My mystery glitch was well, it's the reason I have this new USB camera I was having glitches using this black magic ultra studio. It's so new The drivers are all new everything's so damn new nobody can really properly tech it They don't they don't have a lot of data to go by and it just was like I I knew there was no way I was gonna find a fix easily. So I I patched around it by changing my camera And it's so far so good. It's been fine. The other thing I to look out for is if you're using third-party plugins Exactly like the ones I just showed you And you launch twisted wave or whatever your DAW is in the silicon native silicon setting It won't load those plugins So you will actually have to force that program to load itself in a compatibility mode How would you do that? I'll show you very quickly if I go to find her Open I'm gonna bring over my applications folder. Now. You should be able to see that sue. Hopefully that's working All right, there we go in this particular case I would I would do a get info Command I on the twisted wave app itself and then I would actually check open using Rosetta So it sounds weird, but what I'm doing is for forcing Twisted wave to run as though it's the old version not the new version And that allows it to run those plugins. So if you're not using any plugins You're only using what came with Twisted wave or would came with Adobe came with the Mac It does work perfectly fine But if you're trying to load third-party plugins a lot of them have not gotten their silicon compatibility up yet So using this open using Rosetta thing does the trick and these computers are so fast that even when the computer is Emulating that's what it's doing. It's pretending. It's another computer an Intel computer. It still seems to perform Admirably, it's fast. It seems to work without any real issues. So that's been my experience It's not been completely smooth But overall I don't regret making the move and I'm this close to selling my my Intel Mac mini Oh, that's sitting on the table right behind me me to and that means we had to for sale out there Yeah, where are you where you out with this whole silicon Mac? I had a weird thing go on today But I think I figured out what it was because I put a Smaller external hard drive on because I wanted to you know, clean on clean it off and and then it started going bananas Hmm, I had a problem with adobe audition this morning. It kept freezing on me Well, how are you copying stuff? We're using time machine or just literally just I was just copying and pasting and throwing it in the other hard drive but and and it it just kind of like didn't want to do it and then and then I've been having interesting things go on with Adobe Audition where the spectrogram suddenly disappears and you open it and go back and forth and you know reappears So it's it's getting kind of glitchy and I'm not used to that because my stuff never glitches So it's but you know when it stuff like that happens It's like I went in dude reboot and that clears it up for a duration. It certainly it did free it up So is it ready for prime time? It's definitely faster. I mean I there's you know, it's it's it's an interesting Computer that's that's a little bit faster You know, I'd say I'd wait until they a lot of the other software that's you know that we use Is caught up with with with Apple so Tomorrow's a day is a big day. I believe well, I should actually should time shift this if you're watching this live I believe there's gonna be some announcements from Apple. Oh If you're watching this in replay, well, you already know what those are But I think they might be announcing some new computers Oh, so we shall see what comes something besides an air and a pro and a MacBook Pro Yeah, maybe maybe the real MacBook Pro the the big boy the 16 inch or something. Oh, I they're saying maybe new iMacs So I don't know but we're gonna find out but it doesn't make me not like my M1 knowing something Quote-unquote better is coming. I don't really care that something better is coming I just want to make sure that the development, you know, we know that over time things get more stable So we know that we know that the most stable Mac they've ever made is probably my 2018 sitting back here on this table Because that thing's been in development for many years the OS on it has been developed for many years And we are bleeding edge new tech when we go to this new Silicon Mac, but when you're using a really simplified system for most people's special if you're just using Something as simple as twisted wave It's been pretty pretty darn rock solid If you're really needing a new Mac right now and you need a quiet computer the thousand dollar MacBook Air is just It's it's just such a no-brainer. Yeah, just doesn't make a peep. Yeah, my son's really enjoying his so that that's a yeah Good endorsement there. Yeah, we're gonna really happy. I love that. I can sit and edit video and just do general Personal projects while it's laying on my lap and it's never gonna burn my legs Hot that you can't stand it. You can yeah, my old work the old MacBook Pro It gets like boy, I wish I was back in Buffalo would be keeping my knees warm My 2019 MacBook Pro gets heck of really really hot. So yeah, no, I do I do appreciate that very much So I think you know, I think if you're wondering let let us know what your particular situation is what software you use every day What your interfaces are because the Apollo is still not officially Supported so I definitely don't recommend it. I've already set it up for a few of you But I still I'm doing it with a huge caveat a huge asterisk That you know asked to risk at your own risk How do we make that into something? So anyway Let's talk about mics and whether you should go Billy Eilish or James Hetfield Yeah We get a lot of questions and and and you know when we ask what mic are you using and a lot of times we get the reason you know the response back of oh, I'm using an sm7b or I'm using an re 20 or an re 23 or Because somebody said those are great voiceover mics because they can ever said that. Oh, yeah Yeah, they think they're the same thing, right radio and video or radio and voiceover are not the same thing Yeah, your voice might get on the radio, but you're not trying to sound like you're on the radio when you're on the radio There's a reason radio sounds the way it does not that anybody listens to the radio anymore I mean, yeah, yeah, you got CDs. You got mp3's you got satellite. You got streaming streaming You know, I hardly listen to I mean I listen to classical music on you know on FM And it sounds great in my new car, but anyway I Have in my very hand An re 20 That sniffing of the mic reminds me of another story that I'll maybe I'll tell again. Okay. Yeah, let me turn that alright So normally, you know, you're gonna hear me, you know on this show on on the vo1a the Harlan Hogan Vo1 and usually from at least a foot away, too. Yeah, I'm a good. Well, this is exactly eight inches You're doing you're getting to work at tight when we normally on a show together. We're at a distant right placement Yeah, right, but if I if I turn off and Put on here's the re 20 if you're way off on the re 20 You're way off and you sound distant now. Does it cut out a lot of you know, external noise? Yeah, but if those of us who remember being on the radio and using an re 20 Usually you were like doing this and that's you know, how a dynamic with Mike works. There's only one problem We're voiceover is a natural thing. We had Brian Falcon last week who talked about you got to sound natural and We don't naturally talk to people half an inch from their eardrum So it's important to realize that this is not a voiceover Mike now what we see is We see a lot of people who are vocalists singers Using dynamic mics, which is great Fabulous because when singers sing they use a lot more SPL sound pressure levels. They are louder. They're singing except for one example and in honor of that I have my my my Blue mustache as you can see Died your hair blue. Yeah, I kind of wanted to Match match the misses so when we take our masks off So Anyway, Billy Eilish who who sings very quietly and I'm actually starting to get into her music It's actually pretty cool, which is to be hip. It could be rather hypnotic and yeah You can tell you know their influences there from What's your name Anderson? Many years ago Not Amy Anderson Remember her first name she's still a kid. Yeah, she's only 18. No, she I think she's 20 now Yeah, 20 but the documentary on her was really really good. It was good on Apple TV. I recommend it Yeah, I would recommend it as well, but she sings so quietly But she uses what Mike does she use I believe it's an omen TLM 103 yeah, so you can you can work at TLM 103 really close and You know, I mean you can hear dogs barking everywhere, but it's right Yeah, anyway, but you know mention another name, you know James headfield James headfield is the lead singer of Metallica He is known for using a dynamic Mike. He uses an SM7 B That Mike is it loves to be yelled at that Mike is what it's built for it is yeah it can take a very high level of volume up very high SPL and It can take it without an issue now. I've really recommended it I'll never really be the one to recommend it for most voiceover If you're doing a lot of character work, maybe you're doing a lot of very Zany audio book character stuff, maybe for kids books. I don't know for gaming Gaming and your dynamic range is really out there. It can work. Um, it can work, but it's just one It's a specialty Mike. It's not something it's a general purpose voiceover Mike that I would ever Recommend for that reason it just doesn't have the sensitivity, right? And they don't want you using them over at the studios pretty much not yeah And that's why you won't see them in studios, you know, that's right always a good studio condenser Mike or the 416 Which is also a studio condenser Mike, but a lot of other things Anyway, we got lots of questions to deal with here Now everybody wants to talk yeah, sure okay Well, we'll take a quick break here and we'll be back answering your questions right here on voiceover body shop tech talk right after this You're still watching VOBS Well looks like traveling is coming back into vogue and Harlan Hogan's port-a-booth pro and plus make recording on the road a breeze And in that spirit here are some of Harlan's top tips for recording professional quality audio away from home in 2021 Number one the motel ironing board practically every hotel and motel provides an ironing board in your room But forget ironing. It's a perfect height adjustable stand for your port-a-booth pro or a port-a-booth plus Two if you can turn off the heat in the air conditioning Three switch off the fridge or minibar for Request a room that's inherently quiet away from the vending machines Harlan's been known to actually unplug them After about 9 a.m. Most hotel fitness centers are deserted Here's a bonus tip use voice optimized headphones and stay away from windows Harlan has a whole bunch more tips for you VO road warriors So check out voiceover essentials comm before you check in and get your travel friendly port-a-booth pro or plus Well, hello there. I bet you weren't expecting to hear some big voice to announcer guy on your new orientation training for snapchat Were you stick around? Target we want you to come as you are be comfortable. 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We got a lot of questions to get to tonight and we want to make sure we get to them all So I'm gonna just tell you go to source dash elements calm Get a 15-day free trial of source connect Make sure you know how to use it if you don't go to george the tech SC and check out all my user guides and videos on how to use source connect and set it up If you need advanced help beforehand, you're not sure what to do Let me know But if you if you're a paying user who's bought the license or are subscribing Get help from source elements. They've got over 30 people right now taking calls helping folks and dealing with their technical issues, which Really sets them apart. I'm telling you their support is bar none source connect You should have it in your toolbox to be considered a real working voiceover pro be right back with tons of questions You're watching v obs dot TV. I don't know why it's crazy what they do here I think I'm gonna go somewhere else and have a cheese sandwich. Yeah, we are back with all of your questions And we got a pile of them here Here's the stuff now we get them mailed in to the guys at vobs dot TV You can write one of those anytime and sometimes we might answer them personally and then lend it to the show Like this particular one from Angela Butler. She says issue I want to change my digital audio working station from audacity to adobe audition But adobe auditions website states minimum requirements for a Mac OS X is Version 10.14 or higher. So the question is as stated above Or as I said before since mine is a Mac OS Sierra server version 10 point 12 point 6 Will my systems realistically successfully appropriately safely handle a dot change to adobe audition What do you think actually I actually I frankly don't know I mean when a company says it will needs to run on a certain OS It depends on the company and in terms of avid and pro tools if they say it won't run on something It means they won't let you install it So when you go to install it just stop right there. Yeah, now it doesn't mean it won't run. It just means they won't let you install it Now adobe audition creative cloud and the way it works It may have a way of checking your system and it may prevent you from installing But that doesn't mean you can't get older versions of adobe audition. They do make available Through the creative cloud legacy versions. I don't know how far back But I I know you can get say adobe 2019 or audition 2019 or 2017 sometimes so If that's the case for you, just get a little bit older version of adobe audition Write them a message ask them, you know, because they they should be able to provide it to you They want you to be able to still use it because they want your money So I can't see me can't see why they Why they wouldn't provide you an older version when when necessary Alrighty, uh, yeah, I you know Generally if it's not gonna work, it's not if they say it's not gonna work It's not gonna work. So it may require, you know, of course if you're trying to move from Audacity to audition you might want to consider Why would you want to move if you know whose audacity can do everything you need? Although yeah, audition is think about what reasons you want to make the upgrade and make a little pit stop at twisted wave on your way over That's an excellent idea. Yeah, because that usually will that will run on your iPhone for crying out. Yeah Uh, Dan Delgado asks, hey guys, I'm an audiobook narrator with a dynamic style like Ray Lorter or Jeff Hayes Okay, and I'm looking to improve my both and would like to your recommendations on sound absorption In particular, I'm looking to build panels out of either oc 703 or rigid mineral wool Is one better than the other overall? Do they perform differently for different frequencies? Is there a rigid mineral world you would recommend over others that I miss any questions I should have asked insert sheepish shrug shrug. Oh Oh, is there an episode where you guys go into detail on soundproofing? Thank you for the help in the entertainingly educational show um You know Is one better than the other Unless you're like, you know running a fog horn in there, uh, it's Is is one going to be more soundproof than the other is one going to be you know What does all this stuff do? And you know is one better than the other? I think if you're using anything anything is better than nothing Well, there's a good place to look to compare a lot of these. Um ATS acoustics, um, this company's been around a long time been loving their product Um, and they have on their website a DIY section Um, and what I can do is I can share That browser page Because we can Wow, um, look at that And so if you go to a ts dot it s acoustics dot com Click on the DIY acoustics materials Click on acoustic installation Installation and then look at the list. There's quite a list of materials here If you start clicking on them, they will give you some information. So By far the most common is going to be rock soul afb Um, this is also aka very similar to Uh, the stuff they sell at like home depot. I think they call it safe and sound. Yep. Um, if you click on that Uh, it will take you to the info page about the product Click on item description Oh nice sheets of rock wall and stuff Yeah, and Oh, actually, I think they have another chart called selecting. Ah, here it is. They have it all on one page now Nice There's a great page on here for selecting the right acoustic material And what it does is explains how different densities of material Control sound at different frequencies So the thing is you have to know what version of material talking about oc 703 Is one type of material which they have way down here at the bottom and you'll notice the thickness even matters four inches two inches one inch Um, and you'll see that when it's thicker generally is much better at low frequencies Um, but make sure yeah when you're comparing oc 703 compare it to something similar in rigid or in density so, uh Looking at oc 703. It's a three pound Density rating per square cubic feet So we need to look at something that's similar. So rock soul afb is pretty close At two and a half And if we look at some of the critical frequencies like the lower ones 125 And 500 right in that really the meat of your vocal range The rock soul afb is is 0.28 That's called nrc higher is better And the owens corning 703 is 0.17 So the rock soul is a little bit better At the same frequencies. So go check out this page. It's interesting. Go go to that page dan. It's uh, you know If you want to be that precise Do that and of course, how do you determine what frequency range you need to control? And that really takes you actually having to talk a little bit in there And uh, because you're not going to guess unless you have an Acoustician in your family Describe those things ask around you might be surprised. That's what you do There you go We got a clubhouse question Oh, yeah, we do and uh waiting patiently is diana. I hope you're saying hello diana. You're on the air Yes, hi. That's correct. It's diana. Hi. I'm great. How are you? Good. Thanks for joining us. What is your question? Well, um, I have gone to your website because I own the Road into one and I see that you recommend the shore 815 hp high pass filter And I just want to understand exactly what that's doing Yeah, so I've been recommending it I don't know if I want to say trepidatiously I did have someone buy one and it was effective Which was so random because it's a very very simple product But what it does is it takes a road into one Which is very sensitive at low frequency And reduces that low frequency sensitivity. So if you have that rumbling problem When you hit record and then in your road into one and you turn up your gain at the appropriate level And you see a big jaggedy line In the in the room tone Something like this can help clean that up now. It doesn't mean you can't do it in post You can just load an eq setting in your software to do this But sometimes it's kind of nice because it comes in clean or comes in looking cleaner Um, it might make it faster and easier to edit. So that's why I've been recommending. Have you ever used that thing, Dan? Let's call the shore hp 15 or something like that. No, you know, I You know, I generally try to control Whatever low rumble frequencies there are but when working with clients Where it's consistent that almost everybody has a you know a department buildings condos Yeah, anything that's like, you know, but anywhere from 90 or 80 hertz and below Something like that can help up front. There's no question about it I've never used that particular one, but I know it works It's a little inline plug. It's like a barrel. It just looks like a long xLR You know and some microphones have have a have a base roll off on them themselves And and those can be helpful some, you know, I I know the e100 s the cad e100 s has one And I found that it tended to really be a little more Wider than the frequency range they were saying and it sort of So it's thinned out your low the low end of your voice. It really did so You know, so something like that can certainly help It's worth the shot and you can always return it Awesome. Thank you. You're welcome You want to get Jeff's question there since yes, mr. Jeff Holman our very own chat moderator He says it is a possible to set your router up with too many security features that might Possibly create problems for a source connect session. What do you think? Yeah, well, I Yes, I guess I mean the whole point of port mapping Is that no matter how much security you've set up the port is allowing that signal to come in So you can have a very secure setup and you're punching a hole through that whole thing That's what we call it a port in that way. Yeah making a hole through the whole thing to allow that connection to work So I'm not aware of too much now. I know that having a firewall running on your computer itself That's another place to create a failure point And so you might want to not have a firewall running on your actual computer That I would probably recommend Ideal settings Uh, would be just using the standard Wireless protocol for security WPA to personal Yeah, you have a whole bunch of them listed here WEP is really really old and old school and I don't think that is really the norm anymore WPA to personal Is probably fine. I have no idea. I've never tried anything more sophisticated or beyond WPA to personal like I find big big sir is saying that you know, your router has It doesn't have quite the security that it should you really need to upgrade the the security. It tells you that, huh? Yeah Okay, so interesting. Well, I would yeah, I mean, I'm not I'm not an it geek. I don't know a lot of the really Really geeky it stuff Honestly, uh, the last thing is what is ipvv6? ipv ipv6 Is the next generation of ip address. So instead of being 192.168.1.1 It's something completely different That's all I can tell you more numbers to memorize. It's a lot more digits Um, they I think they developed it because they were literally running out of ip addresses So they had to have another way to to assign a lot more addresses, um, again, I'm not an e it techie geek enough to Really answer that in detail. Yeah, uh, Dave g from youtube says hi you guys rock. Well, of course. Thanks Uh, just posted an instagram about upgrading ear pads for comfort and sound any thoughts on that brain waves make some nice upgrades They make my cave 55 3 so comfy for long sessions We talked about this about some placement ear pads a couple weeks ago. Didn't we? I think we did. Yeah, um I'm using some I have actually now I have the headphones here so I can hold them Last week I mentioned them and I didn't have them handy, but this time I do Um, these are the audio technical headphones and they have a very similar sized ear cup to the sonys And to the harlan hogan headphones as well And I'm using an aftermarket headphone pad that is quite a bit squishier And deeper It's got a lot of depth to it, you know And um, I'm finding this really comfortable And also it sounds good And I'm not exactly sure it's actually exactly sure why they sound good Hey, uh compared to the originals, but they do. Um, I love the velour finish on them So I I think it's a good idea. Um I think it's worth an experiment But it's a bit of an experiment because it will change the way the headphones sound a little bit anything that Changes the thickness of the pad. It moves the driver away Or could move it in but I I would never want one thinner Um, but it does change it, but I've I've I really like The way mine sound. Um, have you ever experimented with that stuff? Nope, I've got I've been wearing these for an hour and a half now and they they still feel fine Yeah, we got if you don't know really sensitive years, you can get away with uh You know most stockier pads without any problems until they wear out, of course. Yeah Uh, we got a question another question on clubhouse Yeah, let's get let's get bridget and and hello bridget Hi, thanks so much for taking the question and I've been learning so much from you guys. Oh wonderful Um, I have a I've been having an ongoing issue with hiss and small wave form when I am recording on my I have an iPad and I'm recording with twisted wave Um, and then I'm transferring everything to my laptop to edit Which is a pc and I'm using audacity on the pc I'm also using An electro voice re 320 for a microphone, which I think you guys were just saying is probably george george suggested that Not particularly ideal always. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, and and yeah, so the reason you're getting hiss is because you really got to push the gain Uh on on on that mic and what interface are you using? Um, you recommended the I think you call it centrants. It's the um Uh, oh the mic board pro or three knobs on the front And I think I think you probably recommended that because I I'm recording on an iPad Uh-huh. Uh-huh. I don't know Yes, I have I got that in the mail last week and I got um Good cable one of those world's best cable cables And and and I I was hoping I am actually on the waiting list for a new, um I took your suggestion for the the road and tg5 So I'm waiting for that, uh, but it might not be here for another six weeks. So No way. I didn't know they were backward. Wow. Yeah, it's bad. Okay So, uh, Australia, so have you have just out of just just for experimentation Have you tried recording from the mic port pro into your pc? I have not. Okay. I'm just why not noise difference I'm just wondering if there's any noise difference or not You know what? I'm wrong. I did uh when I first got it and I did still get the hiss. Yeah Yeah, it's it's just because that microphone needs so much gain You're probably having to run the gain knob on the mic port pro all the way out. Yeah practically at the very top, huh? Um, it is Probably 80 of the way up. Yep. Yeah. Yeah, still shouldn't be getting any hiss on I shouldn't be that noisy. I'm surprised actually. Is this the mic port pro 2 that the one one has three knobs on the front or two knobs? Yes, indeed. It is the mic port pro 2. Um I did I I did watch a couple of videos, um Uh reviews on it and there was somebody that said that it did have extra hiss So I don't know if that's I I I didn't I wasn't sure if it was more the microphone or or the mic port pro Yeah, I without having another mic, you know troubleshooting sometimes requires other stuff. So Until you have another mic to test it out against It's really hard to know and any other mic you're going to use is going to be a condenser mic. So They're going to be quite a bit more sensitive. So it just might be the 320 dynamic mic and that interface or just not a great match Yeah, okay. Yeah needs a little bit more more Give it let's in yet. I should say it needs more of a zets Needs more zets. Yeah, would that explain the small waveform too then? Yes. Yeah, you're not getting enough push Yeah, you need you need to you need to be modulating at least two minus nine And if you've got the little tiny waveform and then you And then you try to pump it up using normalize or something like that or amplify You're gonna get lots of hiss. So you need you need a good Yeah, you need a good condenser mic Or an actual condenser mic Thanks for calling All right. Thanks. Thanks dan. Cheers. Hey, thanks for thanks for watching and listening. So dan five questions in five minutes Can we do it? All right, let's go for it Dean wade to a question in an adobe audition Um, I record a clip and when playing back on the track I get latency or echo It seems to somehow be related to the sample rate if rate is 96 kilohertz or higher. No problem Lower rates are when the echo shows up. Why does this happen and clarification the sample rate I'm referring to is found in the adobe auditions settings for hardware. Why are you recording at 96k for starters? I guess he's trying to troubleshoot. I think dean. I hate to say we're going to move on and here's why We don't know anything about your computer about your interface. We don't know what os you're running We don't know which version of adobe audition. We're running. We just don't know enough about your system next Pamela you are Any reason you wouldn't recommend the m1 mini? Um, we pretty much cover that one top of the show. So we will move on to the next Gar rogers dan get this one. Yeah, uh, brian falc mentioned the d2 mic my recording space I have gotten down to a noise floor that fluctuates between minus 54 and minus 63 That's okay, which is making me crazy. Well, then you're you're overthinking it Uh, I just bought a monitor and we'll be removing the computer from the both good That might help a whole lot Uh, to a more remote part of the room, which we always suggest If that doesn't do the job should I consider a hypercardioid mic like a 416 or like what you're using the What you've got a road 5 the ntg 5 Yeah, um, probably maybe I mean, we don't know what mic you have already. That's true Yeah, when you ask your questions be real specific about what yeah, it's like we yeah We know what this mic does and with and how it interacts with Yeah, every voice is different fran cardioid mic that with no high-pass filter And it's picking up rumble then chances are a shotgun mic which is less sensitive to rumble Um, we'll pick up less of it and your noise floor should drop But if you're using an ldc Large diaphragm condenser Um, and you're getting minus 54 to minus 63 peak noise floor on average. You're doing pretty damn good When you say all right, yeah, yeah, isn't that a problem? Uh, let's see here. Uh, Derek Dicehart from youtube. How do I approach setting volume on my monitors? My interface is in my booth and I want to control volume outside my booth How do I approach setting the volume on my interface versus the external control? Boy, I just cranked mine and You know until they sound right, you know your studio monitors are what we call near field monitors And ideally you're like two and a half to three feet away from them And they're angled at you and the acoustics have to be right in the room that you're using the monitors in Here's a quick hack. I guess you could you could plug if your computer is outside You could plug your studio monitors directly into your computer output It's not my favorite solution But you could do that and then when you go to play back and edit you could just switch your Output to built-in sound that is something you could do Or you're gonna have to go and get a monitor level control like a mackey big knob Get a passive one. Don't get something really complex. Just get a really basic volume knob And just run the cables out from the booth from the interface out to your speakers Where you'll have a volume knob to control them. So that would be my last suggestion Yeah, I think that's an excellent suggestion. Thanks Jennifer Dixon Yes, nothing wrong with my mic and working regularly. I just want to know if there's anything I should be using Or not doing anything I need to be doing well. Yeah, sorry about that The mic is a sure PG 42 usb. You've had her she's had it for five years I've known that mic for 12 to 15 years great mic. It is a good mic It is uh, eq wise it has a little funkiness. It can be a little harsh or sibilant And I didn't think of that one. I first got one and recommended it But now I hear it against other mics There are 15 years later technology is you know Yeah, you know exponential in in development. It ain't bad. I can eq it to sound pretty good, but it's it's a little not Not to smooth this sounding mic out there So, you know, if you've been using a usb mic and getting by for five years Maybe that mic's paid for itself Maybe by now You could step it to something a little bit more premium. Yeah crazy. Yeah, I might suggest that you send us Some audio to see what it sounds like you're starting from if it sounds fun We're not going to tell you to buy something for no reason, but right five years on a usb mic Yeah, I if your book and work Yeah, you know, then the question always becomes what book are you what work? Are you not booking because? Yeah, exactly. What work are you not booking and uh, there's a lot more questions to ask from that Um, edit a wire from an m1 user From m1 users. That's the silicon mac on youtube. I understand it has issues with bluetooth Oh, I meant to mention that. Yes bluetooth can sometimes Suck pretty bad I don't know why uh, if your mouse Is uh, right next to it. It still can be bad It was giving me trouble this morning and I And it's usually that magic mouse and I don't I just don't there's no excuse for it I threw them more money and bought a trackpad like this And I literally plug it in With lightning So it's always connected And that is the part that makes me a little mad that I'm buying $140 trackpad to plug it into the computer to get reliable connection, but Yeah, I've even been buying the old mighty mice on ebay to help people out the usb one with a little tiny ball On top. Yeah, because yeah, there is an issue. I hope it's something that can fix with firmware, but if not Uh, maybe wait till the next one comes out. Yeah Uh, Dave g from youtube george Any preference for plans for a diy booth build without stepping on any sponsors toes, of course No, I really don't because they all pretty much suck unless you're in a master a master crafts person Master crafts person do don't even attempt I don't know any that I can recommend wholeheartedly honestly Um, lastly, uh, alisha hurley, which was a leftover from last week What app can I use for mouth clicks? Most people are using isotope rx It's one of the rx series rx-8 is the current one using mouth the click um, that is by far the most uh Common and ed kelly the very last one will slip this one in I have the agent adobe audition 5.0. No subscription When I try to use the de-esser it beach balls on me every time. Is there a patch? You're not gonna like my answer ed. No, the answer is pretty obvious. It's like cheap bite the bullet Go get the clutter to create a cloud Upgrade and have patches that is the patch all the time Okay I'm spent. Yeah boy. 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