 Welcome to mind pump. This is the world's top fitness health and entertainment podcast This is a Q&A episode where we answer fitness and health questions, but the beginning of the episode We do a introductory portions about 35 minutes long. This is where we talk about current events We have some fun conversations. Sometimes we talk about our sponsors So I'm gonna give you a break down of this whole episode. Okay, so we start out by talking about one of our partners mirror mirror made a new dawn patrol Camp cup you can bring this camping. It's great. It keeps your beverages warm or cold But also because of its Earth Day and COVID-19 they have gone 100% carbon neutral And they are now climate neutral certified. So that's kind of cool Anyway, if you want to check out their products and get the mind pump discount go to mirror comm That's M I I R dot com forward slash mine pump use the code mine pump for 25% off Then we talked about health clubs and their reopening plans In particular we talked about the Bay Club and what they're gonna be doing then we talked about Tom Cruise and Elon Musk They became friends apparently. Yeah, I talked about a Spanish beach doing something very stupid to disinfect their beaches Then we talked about a disinfectant that can be placed on surfaces and makes them impervious to Bacteria and viruses for years kind of interesting Then we talked about Adele her weight loss and the idiots that came out and said that that was Body-shaming somehow These people still exist and then Justin very eloquently talked about a tarantula a tarantula's pet and it was confusing But we figured out you're welcome And then we got into the questions the first question This person wants to know how you train someone that only wants to work out one to two days a week So we talk about how to design a workout around that the next question This person wants to know what we think about farmer walks. So farmer walks We hold dumbbells or a trap bar and you walk and it's usually loaded There are some benefits to it. 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How's that mean? It's good for the environment Now what it means is that you need to know what it means is the company is not gonna add more carbon according to the testing of this Certification, they're they're neutral. They're not adding more to the environment than they're they're taken out Is it common that most companies do that? Manufacture is that is that is that I'm assuming that's why that's a big deal Some companies definitely produce more carbon than other companies for sure well not more. This is saying it's neutral I don't know how they would make it neutral I don't necessarily get that So but I do know that the the certification process to get climate neutral certified It's vigorous and they go in and you in order to get it you have to be one of the cleaner companies I think it's that and then what else are you're probably potentially putting back in that's good Would that be have something to do with it? Maybe because you plant trees, right? Right. Oh, yeah, that's how you become neutral. I because it's inevitable if you're Manufacturing something right. It's not just that they don't have an opinion on either one I don't think I'm Switzerland What's your opinion on carbon? Neutral sorry, we got to reach out to our guy there. Oh, he's always forward-thinking man They're always doing something. I can't even keep up with how much they give back I think it's pretty cool what Brian's been doing over there for quite some time Totally part of the reason why we partnered with him dude So you know how because of what's going on everybody's doing like zoom Conferencing call conference calls and zoom classroom. Yeah, everybody's working from home or whatever Zoom-a-zoom zoom and have you heard of the you know, you've heard the stories, right? We're like that the employee in the conference doesn't know that this mic is on right and they're taking a dump Oh, yeah, people are you know walking around naked in the background or people's kids screaming Well, there was this reporter the Spanish reporter that was doing a live, you know journalism thing on on his YouTube channel or whatever this live, you know reporting thing and In the background His mistress now. Yeah, dude. She's walking around. She walks by naked. What and he gets caught cheating on his wife On camera. What yes Yeah, yeah, what a what a jerk. Yeah, no, he gets caught cheating on camera try getting around what a way to find out How do you deny that yeah wife's home watching it? Sorry broadcast today. You got something to tell me change the channel. We got to watch dad real quick, okay? I love watching his new stuff. He puts it on now You don't know who you don't know who Earl Thomas is but he's he's a safety that plays for the Ravens And he's a stud and he's a safety for the Ravens So did you see the breaking news on him last night? No. Oh, so he he got so his his wife Was arrested for putting a gun to his head now. She took the magazine out but didn't realize there's a round in the chamber That's why that's why she's in trouble But I guess she walked in on him and his brother Naked with two other mistresses Yeah, that just hit the news yesterday. Wow We love it's not worth it. You know, I mean what's that to kill someone because they cheated on you What a stupid I don't think so from what the report was saying sure intentions weren't to do that It was just to scare him, which is why I think she pulled the magazine out Oh, he'll never cheat on me again because I scared him with a gun Yeah, I was stupid. Yeah, but when you're in the heat of the moment, like I'm not by the way I'm not like Justifying playing devil's advocate with you right now that come on like you you got to know that sure you walk in on your wife And with some dude. Yeah, like you scorned. It's not like you stop and you think logically for fucking 20 minutes Oh, how should I handle this and what's gonna work? Wasn't it left? I love heads that like burned down her husband's house or whatever. Did she really yeah? Oh TLC was that they were great. I love them. Yeah on the way to Reno You can see they're still touring the two of them are really. Yeah, they're just TLC. Yeah, they're chasing waterfalls Yeah, I saw I saw a billboard Are you guys are you guys watching all the news right now on just all these gyms that are slowly starting to open up and the Regulation happening. This is not gonna be good. It's wild. So big big clubs. Let me find it Post-apocalyptic it's just they're opening up with these new with and they're releasing kind of their strategies like how we're gonna reopen So Bay clubs this was in in a local You know news outlet Bay clubs talked about what they're gonna be doing and how they're gonna reopen They're gonna be reopening so they're gonna be taping off 10 by 10 Pods so 10 by 10 spaces that are considered workout pods and you're going to be reserving these 10 by 10 Workout spots up pods the they're gonna be limiting their capacity at 25% So said so 75% less people. Yeah now can use their facilities. There's no way. That's a strange vibe That's gonna be for group classes like yoga. There's gonna be tech taped boxes on the floor So you have to stay in that little segment. You cannot bring your own mat There I mean the sports courts are gonna be repurposed with cardio equipment So they have room for you know spacing spacing them way out Gyms are just not that profitable to start with and there's been a misconception forever in our space that they're just Money-makers. Yeah, they're not they are not mass and there's always exceptions the rule There's models or there's franchises or there's bubbles that happen, you know curves for an example Sure, if you got in on the front end of curves, you might have got rich being the first, you know 500 people that got into that business, but I mean look where it's at today So there's bubbles right now that have happened in our space that are extremely popular They're trendy right now people are making decent money off of them But long-term wise gyms in general just don't profit a ton of money they interviewed the the COO of 24 fitness Carl sanft and They said so what do you think about like when they reopen and stuff and so it's just being typical, you know You got it. You got to have the marketing phrase, right? Oh, of course. So he says it's gonna be a Reimagined experience I feel so bad laughing imagine me and you He can't come out and say can't Be like it's gonna suck. Yeah Okay, no, we were there really young Justin was there young too, but not as young as you and I do you remember when That started to come together for you like just the corporate bullshit Like I remember, you know being on the morning emails in my like early 20s and like so bought into the company and like You would get a message like that and you're like and you would spin it to your staff. Yeah, dude It's gonna be amazing this new thing. We're gonna do now and people are gonna be we're gonna save the world You'd go down and pitch it like here's the new comp plan. Yeah, yeah Imagine for you imagine now re-imagine it, right? That's what it's that's what it's gonna be like No, I mean, you know terms make a big difference the way you I mean politics does this exceptionally well anytime a pull Anytime a new bill is passed Whatever the name is and it does the opposite that's that's like a rule of thumb. Well, it doesn't just say the Patriot Act opposite Opposite anything that says freedom opposite Well, Justin said is a great point too is that that when they would roll out comp plans I mean I remember so I was there spin that I was there for oh, yeah I was there ten years and in the ten years. I had to hand out to my staff eight different comp plans so basically almost one a year and By about the you know, third one I think I started a piece together like wait a second This is not ever in the favor of my staff and that it's obviously once you really understand business and Scaling something to that magnitude a comp plan change is always in the favor of the company That's an easy way for them to save money right but when they would put it out They would position as an opportunity for you to make more money. So if you've learned to create a new position You know that you could like, you know advance to we're gonna pay you less hourly But look if you sell this much more you actually could make more money per year Try harder. I mean I used to irritate that crap out of me when they would do that But I wasn't there for nearly as long as you were I don't know how the hell you lasted well, you know as much as I talked trash. I I liked it I loved I loved work. It's I still today sometimes miss it. I mean, I was a fun environment I would never replace it for what we've created for ourselves here I mean, I've never loved something as much as as what we get to do now But I did I did love the atmosphere it fed right into my personality just I was around lots of people It was a team environment. It was competitive lots of energy Everybody that's coming into that place either working there or working out are there to better themselves And so that environment I just I ate it up dude I loved it and I remember as the comp plans always got worse and worse and and I always found a way I was the the small percentage of even though the comp plan got shittier. I found a way to still make more money Knowing that it probably hurt the other 90% and so I was okay And I always said man if you would have to pay me Probably close to double what I was making there to convince me to leave after a while It's like a system and you're just there and you're doing you're enjoying it. Yeah, super hard. No By by year five or six I was I had really, you know Got comfortable with what I needed to do to be successful and felt good and you know And in my area I built a name for myself. So yeah, no, it was it was it was fun. I used to have a lot of fun I remember one time to try to sell more apparel because you know in the in the front of the club We'd sell workout clothes to sell more apparel I had a couple of my sales guys put on the girls like workout apparel And I'd make them go taking a rubbish class or whatever and then we'd make announcements You know go to the take the class and watch Paul where you know Well, you were you were at Hillsdale when they did that did the the runway show didn't they wasn't that When you were there was that not when you were there. That was a big deal They do a runway show they did like a they modeled all they turned the lights out and then down the walkway They had all the all the staff come through and like yeah, that was smart It was clever things you back then you could do that like now liability turn the lights off You get sued all this bullshit, you know, but those are the days that you could do Yeah, the whole space is gonna be very interesting to watch over the next couple years It's funny this morning. Well, we've been talking just amongst ourselves about investing You know our own personal money and when you when you're you know when you're trying to invest I think it's really smart by the way. I'm not an investment expert So just this is my own opinion But I think it's smart to kind of stay in your lane because it helps you with your temperament You know because if I invest in it in fitness companies I can weather the storm more knowing what's happening with the trends And so we've been talking about investing in companies like Peloton right Peloton is a it's a publicly traded company And we figure God it's probably gonna they're probably gonna do well Because more people are gonna work out at home less people working out at gyms So we've been talking about this for a while and we were we were all talking about getting shares like the other day None of us did wake up this morning. They're up like, you know, five or ten dollars, right? Some all pissed off. I'd said to and I should have known better. This is the worst person The work of the sleepy bear to tell this to is Adam, right? I send him, you know tax. I'm like, yeah, but we fucking if you had hair, it'd be gonna get we should act it Right, and I just set him off dude. He's conference calls everybody Bro, Adam's like the stock remember this is the number one rule of investments in stock market by low say hi The market's already it's already got up and I was like put all the money But I do think Peloton is is it is gonna be a good an interesting I mean, this is my again my own personal investment But I think this will be an interesting place to look because they're a tech company, right? Like for the most part So they they have a good I think the infrastructure for that business is sound in terms of like what they're trying to Create like this new platform of how to create the experience of it Like tech companies need to be the ones driving that but also, you know, the fitness element of it is It's definitely gonna evolve more into the home at home They're bike sales 66% went up 66% increase in bike those are expensive those bikes They are and of course a lot of that's driven from COVID, right? Of course there was a bunch of people that would had probably been on the fence for a long time that were considering getting one And because now they're stuck at home, I mean, I have a handful of people very close to me That's exactly what happened. So that to me isn't the major indicator They've just established themselves in a space that is I don't think it's gonna go away anytime soon No, it's gonna grow right and they're sure the only real competitor They have right now is SoulCycle SoulCycle's done their bike They have a very strong hold on that the cycling community already So if you are already in love with that brand, so they're gonna have they're gonna have a piece of the pie, too But it's still brick and mortar like that's their specialty, which is gonna take a bit for them to transition Right. I mean, but I could argue with that that that's also why it'll do well because they've already established a strong community They have a strong community and then they pivot into something else. It's just like us. They got the fans Yeah, if we were to pivot anything related to fitness, even if it has nothing to do with what we currently do right now I would think that we would do okay because we have a community already So SoulCycle has done that they will own a piece of the the pie But I just think that Peloton is is so far ahead of everybody in that space that they will be competitive For years to come and that's why I like that and they're also not just going to be the bikes They're going to offer other. Yeah, they already do right and it's they're going to keep growing with that and if you think If like again, this is our space, right? We're in the fitness space And so I think our opinion is much more than just the gas I think we have a pretty educated opinion. Of course, we could totally be wrong But I think in the near future. I don't know what it's going to look like in 10 years or five years But I think in the next year It's I can pretty confidently say that gym attendance will be lower. That's my that's my my confident Yes, or estimation, but I don't think less people are going to be working out I think what you're going to see is more working out at home. And so company tech companies like Peloton It's it feels like a smart place to go a smart buy. I don't see there I don't see them slowing down. Yeah. In fact, I think they're going to start going up as we continue Oh, yeah, you're making fun of me of saying buy by buy, but that's how I feel. I feel like it's not But this is where I'm not I'm not an expert at reading the market and watching and trying to time a perfect buy This is just this. Yeah, this is our space and it's like I would still bet that where it's at even with the spike today It'll be still much higher than that a year two year three year from now It's it's a buy and hold in my opinion. It's not something that I I'm speculating on Oh, this is the perfect place to buy it at and then and then try and sell it the market So interesting too some shares is making no sense like tesla just does not make any sense Why it's so damn expensive even elon says in his own tweets This shares are too expensive. This is too much. Did you see elon? Who you just partnered with no tom cruise. Why I'm gonna tell you dude Tom cruise been making moves man Like I brought him up not too long ago obviously because of top gun and how he's trying to do all these revolutionary ways to film Being up in the air with these fighter jets and everything and like bringing in that iMac's experience like Legit inside the cockpit Well, he's taken it to a whole another level by now partnering with space x and nasa And they're they're already in plans of of shooting an action movie in space Wow, mr. Scientology himself. I was just gonna say I think tom cruise just wants to try to get closer to lord zeno He just wants to go to planet zeno or whatever build build his own westworld. I don't know that might be something man He's making moves. You guys saw elon had a kid. Did you guys see that? I didn't you didn't see what he named his kid Yes, no, I did. Okay. How do you pronounce that? Oh, really? Yeah, it is but but the way I think it's chad What the fuck why are these like but the way he named them he used all these yeah symbols that are you know It looks like a that goes into an e And then like I don't know what they're called. I know really smart people know and so I think if you pronounce like alien hieroglyphics You know, I haven't seen it pull it up. I want to see what his name is kyle. Come on. I think it's kyle I think if you pronounce it, it's kyle. Oh, come on. It's like remember when prince changed his name to that symbol Yeah, yeah, so, you know either really call him elon son elon son Okay, was that because he was getting himself out of a record contract though. I think there was something behind that Why he did that so he was able to kind of like get bypassed and kind of loophole. I tell you what dude I so bad. I'm not like this normally. This is not at all the kind of personality that have or who I am But I really want to be elon's friend. Oh, he's dude. He just was on rogan again I can't wait to listen. You don't think he would be awkward Bro, I love weird people. Of course he'd be awkward. I mean we all like weird people but as a friend Huh, I think he'd be great. No, I would love to sit down Bro, it's it just it doesn't whether you believe in God or not. It just doesn't work out that way, dude You get you get all one way conversation get all this brilliance. You get social awkwardness. That's just part of it Dude, it just comes with the cards. It's like, you know, you don't get to be that brilliant and then also hella cool Yeah I'm not gonna go like what do you mean cool? Like imagine sitting down with him smoking a joint and be like Hey, man, what do you think about a flying car? It probably would feel as awkward as he is adam It would probably feel as awkward as that interview did That was great. It was awkward. You think so? Yes, it was great because everyone got to see him get high But it was awkward. Yeah, see there's the name right there. Doug. Can you you can't expand that can you? It's like it's those letters right there. Watch. What does that say? It's like x a e a dash 12 that's 12 and that's kyle that means kyle How do you get kyle out of that? I don't know Seriously, my mind's blown if that means kyle Yeah, somebody what a what a way to make sure your kid gets beat up in elementary school Guarantee right there way to go dad If he takes after his dad ain't nobody gonna beat him up. He's gonna be all yeah, you probably be half cyborg Yeah, exactly. He's the he's already preparing to be a cyborg. I'm sure he's gonna neural link him and everything right away Did you guys see our buddy, uh, james smith joda franko's partner? Did you see what happened to him? No Oh, you guys didn't see that I think he posted in our I thought it was in our forum Maybe it was just on his facebook feed He uh ordered a bunch of equipment online Got hella duped What yeah, yeah, what do you mean like it was like they took the money and they were advertising like a you know warehouse Equipments or all kinds of it like a warehouse type of uh, you know broken massive sale Yeah, exactly and then they had a bunch of its equipments We ordered it and it was like a bait and switch type of deal They sent them just like old rusted crappy weight barbell dumb bell stuff. It was nothing But he looked at yeah, I mean a palette still showed up to his house, but it was like fucking junk shenanigans That's you know that that the the scams on gym equipment have exploded. Oh, I mean we talked about this off-air I don't think we talked about on air that we were speculating that already like, you know With six hundred and what seventy percent increase in at home equipment sales You know, there's a lot of opportunities that see that are like, oh man There's going to be some suckers that are going to buy into this for sure Dude, I saw somebody post on what is it on facebook where you could buy things that's uh Isn't there like a segment there where you could sell anyway? They have like a segment there where you can buy and sell stuff Someone was selling a crappy home gym equipment, you know, it wasn't even olympic barbell It was the skinny barbell with the little skinny weight all of them rusty the bench Had tape on it keeping it from you know tearing in half or whatever The dude was selling for like two thousand dollars. Did you see the meme? Did you see the meme the meme that's going around and someone posted an art form this It was a meme of you know, like there was four. It was a quadrant, right? So it was four images three of the images were like, you know One was like a set of dumbbells one was like a barbell right and it was like two thousand dollars fifteen hundred dollars You know nine hundred dollars and then in a house in virginia seven hundred fifty dollars So fucked up our market is right over the place that's so messed up dude Do you want to talk about stupid stuff uh in spain? You know how they're they actually in in europe spain has one of the higher rates of Covid and they're trying to you know, take care of the whole situation But people are up in arms because the spanish government there Did something a little controversial What's up? They sprayed their beach with bleach. Oh brilliant They actually went through yeah, let's wash that into the ocean They actually kill all the life went through and bleached like just blasted the sand of this beach With a bunch of with a bunch of bleach to prevent you know any viruses I mean, isn't the sun doesn't the sun kill viruses and stuff too. That was my thought Yeah, oh my god. So environmentalists are all up in arms because of all that they're killing How could something like that even get passed to get done? There's got to be somebody who had to to sign a brain idea to sign off on that Yeah, good idea. Let's fly some bleach over that just drop it on bleach kills everything exactly How do we how do we solve this problem? Wait, doesn't bleach kill it? Just kill everything. Yeah, let's all drink it Nuket yeah idiots anyway, so that and then there's this this these inventors that came out with one thing about Emergencies and scary situations is sometimes it pushes or oftentimes it pushes innovation Through the roof apparently there's this This surface that you can put on things that makes them makes them antibacterial for like Years so you can like cover a table in this This is just in a test But they can cover it with the spray that then will make it antibacterial for like a year or Scotch car. Yeah, you say Scotch car Teflon It's called stains. Yeah, that's not the same thing. How Scotch card works. I mean, it's like the same thing Spray those up my shoes if your dog could shit on your couch and you're fine I mean, I think that's like the same concept. No, dude. That's not the same thing Hey, I was I saw our good buddy, uh, jordan sciat posted something In defense of Adele and I oh, dude, I tried to look it up and I didn't know obviously I saw her picture. She just she just like one of those people who like post like once every six months Everybody goes bananas one of the most talented Singers. I've seen her live. Oh, yeah. Oh, absolutely her. She puts on an amazing show She like does this a whole thing where she like Kind of like tell why I liked it so much was it I wasn't like an Adele diehard fan or some shit I just went to the concert And when I went there, I learned all about her through through her singing So between every song she kind of tells her story. Oh, that's just a really cool way And she's so talented. She's someone who could sit on a stool and sing her whole concert and you're like blowing away Yeah, very very talented. So here's what happened. It's gonna get you guys are gonna get annoyed by it But anyway, so she lost a ton of weight. Okay Posted a picture her posted a picture of it. Okay Uh and people were congratulating her Now other people are up in arms and saying that congratulating someone for losing weight Is body shaming people because you shouldn't celebrate wait, is that still happening? Because come on didn't this whole like pandemic kind of uh put a uh backhand slap to that? No, no, apparently not So people were like congratulations. Oh my god. That's so great And then other people were like well, you shouldn't celebrate that because your body's shaming And that's not always a good thing and this and that can you what the hell's going on here? It's just that's I mean this needs to end. Yeah, I'm I'm done, you know pandering to that stuff Bro, is it just gonna get worse health is health. We're gonna be the old guys that are talking about how ridiculous it is for I mean we are ready. I know I when we get like this. I feel like man. I do we just accept it Dude, this is the direction that we're going. It's gonna be so pick your battles. That's not one I honestly, you know what? I think honestly. I think it's number one It's a lot of virtue signaling and what does that mean? We're fucking soft Yeah, virtue signaling means you want people to think you're virtuous. So you signal out. You're not actually virtuous I'll give you guys an example We have a friend who always talks about how we need to pay more taxes because it helps more people pay more So I I asked her I said well, how much more do you pay in your taxes? She's like, well, I don't I said well, you can you know There's a form in your taxes. You can actually pay more if you want to of course you don't Because you're virtuous signaling you want everybody think you're a good person reality is Your actions actually show that you don't believe what you say So I think people want to virtue signal and show everybody how oh, yes This is not this is body shame and then the other thing too is I honestly think people need To feel like they have a voice and so they just they find a way to be enraged over something silly like someone losing weight It's just insane to me. So apparently you can't control you can't congratulate Her for weight loss because it's body shaming people. Yeah, that's horseshit. Yeah, what is the world? I posted that image. It came up on that. I know you guys follow. I think that instagram the historic instagram page You guys follow that don't you? Yes. Yeah, the today's post they posted was the The jungle gym in like 1920. Oh, I know you've seen that image. No kid would have survived It's like 40 feet in the air like monkey bars. Oh, dude. Oh, yeah, I had those vertical ladders. Yeah, I remember that I posted in my story today because I'm like and I literally so it's funny. You bring this up I mean, obviously none of this was planned and I it was just on my mind like we are just getting so soft You know I'm saying like this is just could you imagine if someone built that right now? Like that would be insane, bro. I'll tell you what when I talk any time I talk to my grandfather I feel like the biggest like wuss of all time anytime My grandfather remember this is true now. It's a hundred percent true story My grandfather at the age of 11 11 years old would sneak onto trains sometimes have to ride on the top of them at 11 years old travel to other towns Try to sell food potatoes because he'd have potato whatever Try to make money get back on a train Come back home and sometimes this was two days later to bring the money to his mom 11 years old So what I think is that a society gets easier and easier. We just all become Weaker and weaker and we're just society's so easy now that we have Oh, I know my grab was in two wars and then was stationed up in Alaska and got uh frostbite on his foot And almost had to cut his foot off and his foot was just disgusting after that, you know It's just like what are we complaining about? Yeah, now you have an ingrown toenail. Yeah, you have to take the day off work Well, it's it's funny when you think about the unintended consequences from this is that You know, we've made it easier for ourselves physically, but it's probably arguably mentally more challenging now because of that, right? Well, it's different. I'd say the mental challenges are still they were trust me They were challenged back then But the difference is it's a different type of challenge. Well, they were challenged more physically, right? You know not being able to get not being able to get food. Sure, but that's mentally challenging Yeah, but I mean it switches you over to survival mode real quick. You're gonna die if you don't eat I mean that's a whole different than like pondering how I feel about myself for months at a time My great grandmother had like 15 kids nine survived. You know, I mean you just lose kids Yeah, when you talk to them about that, I would talk to my grandfather about this is like, yeah Kids died all the time like if you had 10 kids People all would assume that you didn't have 10 kids You had probably 13 kids and one of them died from a fever one time the other kid Oh, he fell down a hole and died and this one over here to you know, had some kind of weird disease We didn't know about like this just happened. Yeah, but I would think that makes you more mentally resilient because of that I think it changes your perspective for sure. Well, yeah, that's what I mean It makes you more mentally resilient when you've had to go through things like that where we us today Like the wind blows the opposite direction and we get fucking freaked out. It's probably it's probably true Oh, thank god. You only lost a hand. Come here. You're good now. All right. Go back to school We are turning into old men listening to us talk right now. We totally are It's happening when I talked to my kids about like school and stuff like that I was talking to my son and I'm like, have you ever seen a Fight at school. He's like The almost was a fight one. I mean like a verbal one on face. This guy yelled. Yeah, you know I know that there's schools where fights and stuff like that happen But just my comparison from how I grew up to my kid Like my son's a freshman and he's never seen a fist fight at school. Really never seen a fist fight at school Wow, I mean that's great, but it's that that's I can't even imagine that We had batteries thrown at us I fucking shit you not dude. Like one of my friends got punked and bullied so hard They made him like strip down naked and climb up the flag post in front of everybody. Wow your batteries at them. Yeah It was messed up, bro. It was messed up. Wow, dude. We're freshmen, you know, that's what they did freshman I mean, I got thrown at a dumpster as a freshman, but that was it. That was the extent of it Oh, I was so glad didn't happen to me by the time I was a freshman I probably got into a dozen fights at school and after school and a lot of stuff even more than that It was just You know, and I'm not saying it was better. I think that's a bad thing But there are bad things that happen to you have the potential to teach you Good lessons. Yeah, and so by you know by the time I got older, you know, you become a little more assertive and stuff And so I'm talking my son about this. So like he's like, well, how do you like? What if you hit someone? What does that feel like? I'm like, dang you you have no idea You know, like what that what that's like, you know, what's the sign up for some boxing or something? Yeah, give me some jiu-jitsu now. Yeah, that's the move Randomly push him down the stairs every now and then, you know Just throw some Challenges like a random fact. I've been like meaning to lay on you guys here Dude, so I my mind was blown because I was like looking up all these like creature things and there was This article about tarantula and how it has its own pets Tarantulas have their own pet has a pet like it keeps a frog around and they have this like mutual understanding What that the frog will basically Uh eat all the insects around while it's it's laying its eggs So this is all for like it's trying to protect its eggs while it's going out to hunt and do all this stuff And so the frogs they're eating Insects while the spiders out hunting. So wait, you know, how are they helping each other? Well, so it allows the the frog to stay there with him. But why? Protection, I don't know Yeah, wait, I'm confused here. Okay. So there sounds like a shitty deal. I know this Maybe gets eaten later. It sounds like one of my son's child books. I still can't figure out You know, I'm saying like I don't understand this. No, it's okay. So yeah So the the frog like like it allows him to live. I know you guys can relate his dad's right now Yeah, but you're like what the fuck this is just stories. He makes sense No, he's he's there. He gets he gets an abundance of bugs that come through there, you know to protect them Okay, so the frog stays there eats bugs. Yes the tarantula doesn't eat the frog But why does a tarantula leave the frog because he's just cool with him. Yeah That's that's the summary of the story. That's and this is a true thing. This is true. This is true Did you find an image of it? It's a frog pet Yeah, all right. Well, yeah, how's it a pet? How are they not just for homies? I don't know. Maybe they're friends, but it seems like it's a little bit You know one sided one sided like it could eat him at any minute. Now when you read this Were you did you have an edible? Yeah Probably you might have confused two stories. No, I don't understand why you guys don't get this I guess well because I'm trying to picture it. So first of all, I don't understand what the mutual agreement is Well, yeah, where do they like first of all? Tarantulas live underground in holes, right? Right and frogs are like in puddles and I guess he goes to sleep there. Where are they chilling at? Oh, wow, these are like huge difference in size here. Yeah, so the tarantula is massive And maybe he's just saving the frog to eat later. Well, that's what I thought But I guess not like he's he's cool with having right It's almost like, you know how that shark has like the cleaner fish That that like cleans all the parasites off of them. Oh the the frog protects the spider's eggs. That's what I was saying You did not explain that well. Did you understand that? I understand it in my head I don't know why you guys aren't getting this Hey, you tell it like the children's story Like just like three words and I got I've got a piece together Choose your own adventure this frog better be careful. I don't trust spiders at all I feel I feel the same way. I know right? I don't know like the first frog that was you know He was like cool with like when did that happen? You have to describe the audience too that the difference in size. Oh, sure. It was a tiny frog. Yeah, it's a little I guess I should explain it was a tiny fright. I was I was imagining like two the same size and like What are they how they work together? Yeah, but so you guys are also not fans of spiders not as much as me But you're also what kind of spiders are the worst for you because the smaller ones really So I used to have we step tarantulas the ugly where we grew up and You know, I'd we'd come out and they'd be all over the place all the time So in october is when they breed and you'd see them everywhere. So they would get in our house Yeah, they don't they don't bite they shoot their hairs in defense, right? So it's like nothing So it's not they walk on roads and everything. Yeah, we still let them we still let them crawl on us everything It wasn't like I did not I got used to them because we lived around them all the time And I realized I don't like like little spiders You know that you can't you feel but you can't see like a tarantula is not sneaking up on you You see a tarantula like hey stand. I don't like the ones that have like the big butts and they look like they're sweaty You know They're just like they're like she there's a sheen on them like a bright color, you know, oh that one's fucking venomous Yeah, I don't I don't like the the sharp ones like when they're furry and stuff that doesn't look as bad But the ones that look all edgy Have you seen the ones in australia like the videos of people catching them with a bowl? Well, they get big ones. Yeah, they kill birds and stuff. I Sorry, that's australia, but that's the only reason why early spiders. Yeah, if you could if you could create a spider-free zone Then we might come down and do a live show that That would kill that can happen From a virus whatever dude spiders. I got agreed one more weird one more weird thing They found an antibody That combats the the covid 19 virus. You know where the antibody comes from Snakes llamas. Oh, what? Yeah, llama. There's a llama. We're just trying everything wait. Yeah, really? Yeah Lava's produced apparently is antibody that is anti covid So they're examining this to see what does that mean? Uh, so if we inject theoretically, you have covid we inject you with llama antibody Those antibodies neutralize the virus. You're okay now Would it like a scientist gets spit on the face or something and it was like Or are we really that aggressive that we're trying everything right now? You handle the llamas you go with the frogs. Yeah, how did that come up? John write down all the animals It's working alpaca didn't work what else we got Let's try that one First question is from just a young in How do you train someone that only wants to commit to one to two workouts a week very carefully? Yeah, that's it next but now this is this I I like this question. Here's why when I was a new trainer When people would tell me that they can only work out one or two work times a week I literally would think that's a waste of time and in fact, I know I turned away potential clients because They refuse to commit to working out at least three days a week or four days. Oh, you're not ready yet Yeah, in fact part of my strategy when I was a new trainer I've always, you know, enjoyed, you know discussing and being persuasive, right? So I get this person in front of me and I'd say how many days a week can you commit to the gym? And they'd say oh just one day a week and then the rest of the time My goal was to persuade them to commit To three or four days a week because in my eyes one day a week just wasn't effective Now I realized After years of doing this literally five or six five years maybe That it was a terrible strategy The strategy was terrible because the reality is if you're going from zero days a week of working out to any more than that Days of working out that's a benefit and on top of that the it's not just a physical benefit It's beneficial because the way people develop long-term Behavioral changes typically is a little bit at a time. So later on my strategy became Hey, I can only work out one day a week and I'd say no problem We'll design a workout around that and make sure it's as effective as possible As far as how would I train someone? Well, if I'm only training once or twice a week first off a lot of it depends on the person If I need to focus a lot on mobility work, which is usually the case with a brand new client Then most of my workout is going to be mobility work As they progress and they need less and less of that special focused mobility work more of it goes to Traditional resistance training if the person comes to me and they don't have tons of mobility issues Um, then I'll do a normal priming session or you know warm up for example And then I'm doing just a full body resistance training routine and it's mainly revolving around compound lifts You know squats and overhead presses and rows and that kind of stuff So I I would do exactly the same thing except uh, we're I guess another depends right is Sometimes somebody who says one to two times a week It's because they're saying that like maybe just saturday and sunday They have an option to work out and so the days are back to back So that's the only way I would split it I agree with sal someone who's uh probably only able to commit to one or two days a week is probably Also the clients that probably need a lot of mobility So I would say that the bulk of my training would be would be focused around their posture and and dealing with any Sort of chronic pain and and those issues Then the other portion of it would obviously be a full body type of routine unless It's back to back day. So if it's uh, if they're two days or back to back Then I would probably do a split where I went Upper body one day lower body the other day and that was just and all the only difference that I do is like So let's say Sal's riding it the way he just said where he has a full body routine twice a week He's probably going to do two to three sets of uh, each body part on there If I know that I'm only going to get the that body part once that week I might do four to five right So I might do four to five sets for every body part in the upper body on one workout And then the other Workout I would do four to five sets in the lower body Workouts if I was if I was going to go back to back workouts if I had A minimum of two to three days in between the two days Then I would do exactly what you alluded to which is a full body routine with with mobility work is what that would look like Yeah, a brand new client. I mean this would be something I would definitely start to build up their Specific mobility routine their their priming session You know ahead of time to to really focus in on that because they can repeat that the whole rest of the week As they you know have time available. They can they can do that at their house, but like I would I would slowly build on onto that with you know, I'd take one compound lift and really try to You know teach them the specifically the mechanics and the technique involved and then have them practice it with light weight You know if if that's the only amount of time I'm allotted and go through that for a couple weeks until I could really build up You know Trust that they're going to perform this exercise correctly throughout the rest of the week You know, I want to I want to add to something you said sal that I think is important to reiterate for the trainers that are listening is I too was like this where at the beginning I did not uh, I get frustrated with this client I'd say oh, you know, you're not serious enough or if you want to if you really want to see results We need to be training at least three times a week if I want to see and to be honest Later in my career. I actually preferred this too. I mean this is I would much rather in fact. I found myself Talking clients down that were like all motivated because they had something coming up Or they're like, oh, I could give you five days a week and I'm like Well, when was the last time you trained five days a week and they'd be like well never But I know now now I have the time or and then I would actually end up going You know, let's start off with just one or two times build a really solid routine and a good habit And then we could start to build off of that. Also, I mean you're teaching You're teaching them to fish that you're teaching them how to figure this out for themselves as well Like this type of a client versus somebody that's coming in and they're relying on you the entire time to just tell them what to do and be mindless, uh, uh, you know about the entire program of it like really spending the time to educate them In that one to two days that you have available is going to be super worthwhile And you know, you can actually get two days a week. You can get exceptional results That dug worked out with me two days a week. Definitely for the first, I think year or two that we trained together So Doug went from, you know, normal active guy to Deadlifting twice his body weight and there's this before and after picture that I've posted in the past where you could see his abs and all that that was two days a week of resistance right now The other days he was active on his own normally, but really it was only two structured workouts a week You can get Very far with two really really good resistance. You can not only get really far. You can also maintain a decent physique at that I mean, I'm training that right now One maybe two times of of resistance training a week right now. Now by no means am I impressive But I also don't look like I don't work out, you know You can maintain especially if you're if your programming is tight And you are doing the the biggest bang for your buck movements Man, if you're deadlifting and squatting and overhead pressing and benching twice a week, uh You're gonna have a pretty damn good physique and base That's one of the things I love most about resistance training It does it sends the signal and then every then the body does the work So it's not like you have to manually not manually building muscle there like with cardio You have to manually burn calories with resistance training You're setting the gears in motion and so if it's effective it can be infrequent And that's one of the hallmarks of resistance training It's one of the reasons why it's one of the best ways to exercise especially with our current busy lifestyles Next question is from rebel Hammond. Can you tell us your thoughts on the farmer's walk? They are so simple yet. I don't see a lot of people incorporating them into their routine. Yeah, I never I never thought I you know So I didn't have I thought of farmer's walks like a trainer, you know, like okay, it's good for stability It's good for hand strength strengthens the back Um, it makes your body tight like the core core activation It's great for that like I understood it from a trainer perspective But I'd never understood it from an experience perspective because I never made it a part of a I'd done them before But the way I do them would be like Occasionally if I'm gonna have fun with somebody in our workout or whatever never train them Then we wrote the maps strong program now map strong was a a workout program That was strongman inspired and a big part of strongman training is farmer walks and that's part of their competition You know when they compete they have to carry things in their hands and walk with them So I worked my way up to almost 500 pound trap bar farmer walks and I was training them consistently And I could not believe the muscle that I was building from doing them It turned my whole body on my traps my back the the muscles of course of the forearms and hands Shoulders my legs got tight. I could feel my core working Um, I developed a brand new respect for the farmer's walk and I consider it to be It definitely a top 15 if not a top 10 exercise that people can do Yeah, much like when you bring up the story about male carriers and your family and like how that inspired you to You know come up with trigger sessions and uh, saw what that did in terms of muscle development Uh, the same with me in terms of playing with certain types of athletes in my career With various sports that I was in I always noticed there was a certain type You know of athlete that just had this inner power this inner strength that was far superior than the other athletes and most Most of them that I had had you know experienced and had met Were from different farm towns and different places where manual labor was like really rigorous manual labor Was a part of their they're growing up and it's just one of those things building up this work capacity and building up this This this work strength It's it's something that I think a lot of people don't really recognize how that also like It really translates into your overall strength, which then you know propels you forward even more so to add That in as something that you can frequently work on And and do it at the right dose To where it's not going to impede on uh, you know the intensity of your you know your regular foundational workouts It's it's gonna it's gonna get you to be able to endure Longer bouts of really strenuous type work in the gym. Well, think about it like this We've made the case for isometrics on this podcast many times, right? And I think that we all agree on the value of it and how undervalued ice the isometric exercises are Name me an isometric exercise that is as that is as intense And I know farmer walks you're moving so people don't think of it as an isometric exercise But think about from your traps down to your fingertips down to your toes With a load which most people can carry 200 to 500 plus pounds name me something That is that intense isometrically on your entire body from neck to your toes And the posterior chain, which again, we all try to you know, voice that quite a bit like we don't consider Uh movements throughout the day to activate and uh, you know gain connection with your posterior chain very often And so this is this is another way to really bring that into your every day It lights up everything from the neck to the fingertips to to the toes Name me one part of the body when you're holding 500 pounds and walking 30 yards That is not completely everything's involved. Everything is connected. Everything is lighting at an intense level It's not like a plane. It's also one of the most functional exercises I mean you are going to do that in life You're going to pick things up walk with them and hold them And so it's a very fun. You get strong at farmer walks. You just are strong Well, we and you've given the analogy that uh, you know, I've repeated a million times Sal with the whole You know speaker and amplifier, you know, I would argue that it's probably one of the the best You know ways to invest in your amplifier. Yeah of all the central nervous. Yeah Of all the things that you could do to really Strengthen your central nervous system Heavy farmer carries have to be up there with one of the top three If not the top one juice up them amplitudes Next question is from bong rips and booty licks. Oh, this is this is what a fantastic name. We would be friends Yeah When you find the balance that you guys talk about with respect to diet activity and lean gains Would increasing cardio be more of a detriment than a help? No, it's it's a listen. Here's the deal Okay, this all would people always get confused nothing wrong Well, maybe because the first, you know 500 plus episodes Well, we had to counter this this abuse of a form of exercise. Look cardio Cardiovascular activity can be very healthy anything overdone can be bad for you that includes resistance training. Okay So if you do more cardiovascular activity and it's appropriate for you No, it's not going to be detrimental. It's going to make you it's going to make you healthier It's going to make you feel good. It's going to improve your performance In fact, there's a level of cardiovascular activity that will even help you build more muscle as long as it contributes to better health Now if your question is is adding more cardio going to reduce the amount of strength and muscle I can gain at extreme levels Well, that depends also, um That depends on the person at some point it will because doing lots of cardio Is teaching your body to improve its endurance catabolic and its stamina and making you more efficient Where lots of muscle is not necessarily efficient with that type of stuff So your body pairs muscle down But there's nothing at all wrong with cardiovascular activity Now I like to communicate cardio like this with people I prefer to not tell people to Purposely go out to do cardio unless that's what they enjoy doing in which case it's totally fine But I'm talking to the average person and they're like, hey, you know, what should I do to optimize my health? The cardiovascular component of the workout is going to be Injecting daily walks into their day. It's just part of your day It's a behavior change rather than you know, rather than making the time to go to the gym um, it's if you and if you attach it to Things that you do throughout the day if it ritualizes it which makes it more likely to continue For example, if I connect it to breakfast lunch and dinner, I always have breakfast I always have lunch. I always have dinner if I connect a 20 minute walk to each of those I'm much more likely to be consistent than if I Have to go away to go to cardio or separate it from everything else So but no, there's it's not detrimental unless it's too much for you And what determines if it's too much your goals your body What else you're doing your diet your other the rest of your lifestyle Well, yeah, or how mature because this question you you say balance at first, which that's the key right the key is to have balance and it is Yeah, I think it there it serves it serves its purpose to be in there But then it says would increasing cardio be more detriment So if you're already balanced, right if you're balanced and you're already Intermittently doing it or it's something you're consistently doing on a weekly basis already and you're asking to increase it more Well, yeah, I mean you it may not serve you when it comes to building muscle. That's good I didn't even catch that so I could so if I if everything I'm doing is perfect If I do something more of it than what happens not perfect, right? Yeah, so it's good Next question is from j canales 140. What are some good strategies you guys have done or do? When trying to study a certain topic. Oh, I talk about this all the time You know What's funny is I learned what I'm about to communicate. I learned part of this when I first became a personal trainer I started to realize that because I was teaching fitness To my clients. I was actually learning it better Because in order to communicate something you have to really understand it well So oftentimes when you learn something you think, oh, I know this Well, now see if you could teach it the process of trying to teach it Gets you to understand it more fully. So that's step number one for me is When I'm learning something and I'm sure people around me can sometimes be annoyed by this But when I'm into something I talk about it. I come I debate about it. I discuss about it Part of that is the learning process for me It helps me really learn what I'm learning the other side of this the other point that I'll give is this When you develop an opinion on a topic Seek out an opposing opinion and I don't mean seek out a crappy opposing opinion Find somebody who you think has the best chance At changing your mind find somebody who does a really really good job of arguing the opposite and that will either Help you develop your opinion more fully Or you'll change your mind because they've done a good job. I don't even think you have to go that far I mean we're spoiled today Um, this it's how I google now. So if I have and name anything, uh, you know, why why uh eating meat is bad Why eating meat is good? I always just write it right after I google what I'm interested in I google the opposite of that statement. So whenever you're searching topics, just do that and what's so amazing about google is the stuff that is That people are sharing that that is backed will normally surface towards the top and I'll go And I won't just read the first article on the top And definitely pay attention if it's an ad versus something that has organically surfaced to the top of google And I'll read that whole first page all five blogs and articles or studies related to that topic And I'll I'll put in maybe the the belief that I have or the question that I have and then I will Then right afterwards google the opposite that support or that is trying to support the opposite side of the argument And then read all the all that supports that and I think that Everybody should train themselves to do is and I think it's so amazing That we have this resource now that this didn't exist just 15 20 years ago That was hard It was very hard You would have to seek out and a lot of times you end up reading a bunch of books That never got to your answer where you can literally just google specifically You know whatever it is that either confirms your bias and then the complete opposite And don't just stop by reading one You know I read a handful of articles and studies and blogs that support it and then then I take it to the next level After I've felt like I've informed myself Now I go have that health and this is what I love about our relationship because even though the three of us May seem like we agree all the time on the podcast a lot of times we debate stuff all the time We talk and you probably heard more of it early on But we we do that all challenge each other and hear opposing ideas on it. I think that's the best way to learn Yeah, I like I like to Read or listen to podcasts or you know audiobooks and then really digest what I'm You know, I want to take my time really to you know to let it Resonate and then see what those the main points are Then take that and then discuss it in a conversation and try and find holes in it And then go look for something in an opposing argument, but I think um, there's there's like a time period for me to really um, you know sit and and meditate on you know, what really What was trying to be conveyed and and for me it might take a little longer To then go to teach it which is something I I definitely agree with I think teaching it is where you really start to understand something Uh, because then now it's like I've taken the concept. I'm a I've applied it You know, I have meditated on it, but now I'm trying to then uh, you know duplicate that by Presenting that to somebody else and am I doing a good job in that or do I really not understand it? So so to put it simply seek out different ways of thinking about the same topic So what because people think thinking and they think it's all the same. It's not you have thinking in your mind There's thinking on paper no joke if you write Try this if you ever have an idea or you're you're mad at somebody you're pissed off at your friend Write it out write out what you feel and what you'll find is you start to process things a little bit differently Because it's a different form of thinking then talk about it Talking about it is another form of thinking and then there's another way of thinking where you Debate with someone else now you're getting challenged on the way you think Those are all different ways of thinking and if you can take a topic and bring it through all of those You're going to come out with uh A lot of confidence in kind of how you feel because you've you've gone through all those different things But this requires open-mindedness when I seek out debates on topics that I'm Learning I seek out the p. I typically do this online I'll I belong to these groups and I'll see somebody debating something so I'll go on and I'll I'll debate it I'm I'll typically find the person who does the best job And I'm literally my this is what I'm saying. I don't say this literally to the person But this is essentially what I'm saying. I'm saying Change my mind, you know, it would be like if you go to a it's like if you if you go to a car dealership And you tell the salesperson if you can sell me this car, I'll buy it That's literally what I'm saying to the person. Look if you can convince me I will be on your side So do your best job convincing me and then we go and we have this discussion about and if they fail It's because I'm more confident in my opinion and if they succeed. Well, that's phenomenal I'm now better off than I was before the the other thing this takes and I think this is why People struggle with this a lot is courage It takes courage to put yourself out there and stand behind something and know that you may be wrong It's but just you have to be okay with that you have to be okay with Hey, I think this is how I believe and this is what I've read and therefore I'm going to have this conversation or this debate with sal but people are so afraid To get proven wrong or to sound or feel like an idiot afterwards that they don't do that And I think this this is a lot of you know in the my early early 20s as a trainer This is a lot of my where my growth came from was I just wasn't afraid of that I wasn't afraid to put myself out there You know even when I knew I was talking to someone who was probably far more educated than I am Putting my ideas out there getting them challenged getting my paradigm shattered probably being wrong Maybe even feeling like a little bit of an idiot, but okay. It's okay because you know what now I understand now I know and now I'm smarter now We move forward one place I can I can think of right now where that happened to me relatively recently was Through the the childbirth process. I thought up until I was An adult I think I was 38 And I thought man childbirth is a super dangerous Thing it killed women for thousands and thousands of years and whatever and we talked about it on a podcast And I said, oh, yeah, you know childbirth is a major killer and you know Thank god for modern medicine and a midwife now midwives are experts at child delivery Some people think their OB's are OB's are actually surgeons midwives specialized specifically in in natural childbirth So this midwife is in our forum. She'll sell your you're totally wrong She's like Actually, this is you know, she gave me a lot of information now I could have been like screw you and you know, that's my I said, you know what she's an expert I want to see if she can convince me. So we had this long discussion She sent me a couple documentaries I did some more learning and I realized I was totally wrong and it feels good It feels good if you but you have to be okay with being wrong But if you're okay with it takes courage, dude Then you come out of it and man, it feels good because now I'm not wrong anymore Now I have a better Opinion about something that I was wrong about for for so long and with that go to mind pump free.com and download all of our guides Resources and books you can also find the three best podcast hosts in the universe We're the three amigos on instagram. You can find justin at mind pump justin You can find me at mind pump salad adam at mind pump adam. Oh by the way Doug is also on instagram. Believe it or not. He's got a fans only page go to at mind pump dug