 Welcome back to the breakfast and plastivia of record time for us to check out the front pages of a national dailies We call it off the press and is equal. Yeah, I talk isn't standby to join us. Good morning. Is equal. Yeah, I talk Good morning always a pleasure to be with you. All right Thank you so much. We join you in no time. Let's check out the daily trust newspaper this morning and find out What is making it big and on the front page of the daily trust newspaper the banner caption reads federal government malls 2.4 trillion narrow pilotive as 1.8 trillion narrow annual subsidy goes No provision in 2022 budget. That's what the senators quoted to say 5,000 narrow transport grant for six to 12 months Minister is also quoted on that. No template to reach the poor labor knocks government says pilotive is a bit FCC places a number of governor Obeano and watch least reps probe 97 billion our federal government cancer control projects a Nigerian air to commence operation April 2022 the federal government is also quoted on that and talking about the West African senior Certificate examination pay your debts neck hotels state government 2023 throw presidential ticket open but bangi the all you tells the people's democratic party and Ramping students stoned DPO in Oregon state. It was really really sad incident. You could actually see pictures. I saw pictures of that yesterday That's the much we can take on the daily trust news paper this morning All right away from the daily trust that will move on next to the daily Sun The main headline for this morning are bandits on rampage in five Niger communities are with a rider there attack gang rape Women federal government hasn't paid up yet any dime on federal roads according to the governor They that's it buzzer just beside the must-have Emo government indicts or coracha family confiscates property What to write is returns seized lands to owners accuses him of sponsoring insecurity in the state just beside the pictorial there a governor but we listen all low Lager state presenting the 2022 budget estimates to the state assembly in the kaja just yesterday Subsidy Senate counties federal government says 5,000 naira not captured in 2022 budgets All right economic affairs gets lion's share a solo present 1.38 trillion narrow budget for 2022 Nigeria receives looted Benin if a artifacts from US museum At last and Nigeria takes off April 2022 Subsidy almost heating three trillion narrow annually laments federal government Presidential panel recommend integration of civilians in new security architecture National assembly spends one billion narrow yearly on fruitless Constitution review that's according to Edwin Clark challenges Buhari to act on a p-series structure in Report now bank fraud Perpetrated by insiders according to the EFC say says Raids at which young men are engaging in cybercrime seriously alarming Kano Masop heats northern Coalition those are all the stories you can find on the front page of the daily Sun this Thursday morning Let's check out the daily independent newspaper and the board caption reads We can't control threats in our cyberspace stakeholders a quarter to say and underneath you have this ride is saying say internet security in Nigeria to open for invasion and Might just be dominating some of the papers EFCC places governor. Oh, be a no Willy oh be a no on watch list and Militants again attack adjip facility in rivers threatens more tack We can't continue with three trillion narrow annual fuel subsidy of the minister has quoted also on that And that's still on the daily independent newspaper We'll comply with electoral act amendment bill once it becomes law INEC is Quoted to say that at last federal government sets April 2022 date to float Nigeria air Infrastructure education tops leaguers priorities in 2022 as Songolou Proposes 1.39 trillion our budget That's also another interesting caption on the daily independent newspaper asset declaration caught bass EFCC from investigating Dixon That's it on the daily independent newspaper and Finally, we will be looking at the punch a newspaper a main headline for this morning a subsidy Nigerians to spend 6.7 trillion narrow on fuel in 2022 NLC send it forward 5000 narrow palliative with two riders there Nigerians to be additional 34 or 3.4 trillion narrow annually on petroleum consumption cost of doing business will increase fuel-induced inflation Inevitable that according to the manufacturers Association of Nigeria beside the must-have of the punch reps or the probe of federal governments abandoned 97 billion narrow Kansas Center Unijoss OOU Imso named among velocities with 707 thousand one hundred and eighty nine. Wow illegal admissions above the must-have Fondalism or sector GDP contribution drops by 270 billion narrow in nine months Senate alleges secret recruitment into federal civil service With 14 9% of foreign ownership Niger air starts operations in April 2022 are the stories On the punch the small in DPO Katelyn Ogun students Battle caught in fraca pelted with stones Lagos proposes 59% capital expenditure So all who present 1.3 double 8 trillion narrow budget as state residents protest land grabbers invasion demand Lagos intervention Alright more stories on the punch police bust a kitty kidnap syndicate arrests Members in Quara or soon stop or be a knock from leaving Nigeria after tenure EFCC tells Immigration and the final story there this morning police recover a body of Jonathan x8 abducted brother in Quara Bush Those are all the stories you can find on the punch newspaper this morning Well, we just Go head straight to speaking with a Zika and I took this morning a Zika Yeah, I took thank you for joining us Again Thank you for having me. I will always say that it is a pleasure. All right So let's head straight to it looking at the daily trust newspaper this morning The federal government is planning to spend 2.4 trillion hours piloting as 1.8 trillion narrow You know annual subsidy would go does that make any sense? Is it rational? Absolutely senseless. I will say this with every sense of responsibility The reason is simple You cannot pay 1.8 trillion At the same time in the papers we see that they are saying that the Subsidies get into 3 trillion. So the first question is which is the correct? Figure is it 1.8 or is it 3 trillion? now if it is 1.8 if you cannot pay 1.8 then how are you proposing to pay 2.4? It doesn't make sense if on the other hand it is 3 trillion and then you now say you bring it down to 2.4 trillion One can say okay, but let's look at the differential of the 600 Million is that where the problem is but the official figure has been 1.8 trillion so the question is if you cannot pay 1.8 trillion How come you now want to propose? 2.4 trillion it doesn't make sense point number one point number two We realize that they've pushed it to 2022 Very close to election year 2023 and it reminds me of trader money that came up just before elections in 2019 so we're asking is this another scam of making money available to be able to pay the boys and you are asking for a register of 40 million Nigerians Where is that register as are today and how is it going to be done so that it's transparent? Are we having another name for trader money where mr. Vice President that I was so disappointed I was so I don't know the words to use that a man that I hold in such high esteem Will because of politics bring himself to go through the market and be giving money all those things a man so Cerebral I've been privileged to work on one or two committees with him You know before he became the vice president and this somewhere that is extremely articulate Cerebral and upright so I don't know how he would get himself into what he did But that is past, but I hope he is not Indirectly endorsing another scam or scheme that is politically motivated That is the second thing the third thing is please somebody tell me this is a policy and At a budget defense going on it has not reflection in the budget Is it something that just came up immediately or is it something that is thought through and if that is the case Which of the budget lines am I finding it reflected in I can't find it He just brings that main question. Do people understand what? Governance is all about And I think as we continue I would like to say a little bit more, but let's continue because this is one matter We must interrogate do we as Nigerians really understand what? Governance is what government is do we know that there's somebody called a driver and That if you buy a vehicle you must look for a driver to drive and not a mechanic and not a carpenter We understand that When your electrical gets bad in the office or in your house, you do not look for a carpenter You look for a make a what an electrician Now do we know what government is doing what governance is? Do you know the people that should be in government? Have we been able to draw a line between politics and governance? That's why in Nigeria that is so blessed Has that ignoble tag of the poverty capital of the world the time has come when cerebral people You and I must wake up and answer these questions. Okay, but is it can I talk before we move away from this? You have economics or those you know economic expats saying For government to remove subsidy Government would need to put some measures in place They need to put some structures and and this actually looks like you know making provision you know for to cushion the effect of Subsidy removal It's not about economics. It is just Common sense car What is government? Chapter 2 section 14 subsection to be of the Nigerian constitution state without any ambiguity that the security and welfare of the people Shall be the primary purpose of government That section gives the foundation on to every government policy. I Am a businessman. I run my business The security and welfare of the people is not the primary purpose of my business Making profit is a primary purpose of my business or being sustainable. That is the private sector now Government is about security and welfare of the people It is on account of that that government would say one of the basic needs of a system is the fuel and Because we want to make sure that the people are not Impoverished we provide what we call social infrastructure We build hospitals and called them general hospitals. We build roads We build schools and nobody pays tolls on going on the road We subsidize a lot of things for the people to be able to live a life within a reasonable Contents without the consequential hardship. That is government. So if you want to remove subsidy It is just commonsensical. It's not about economic policies that you will now ask yourself Is this something that has overrun its taste? So there's really no need for it. We no longer have malaria We no longer have polio. So we kind of dismantle the structures or is it something that we cannot afford to Continue to do so as a result. We are giving an alternative Alternative so that that consequential hardship is kind of cushioned So you put in place their own consequential and their own cushion is to say we're going to be giving 55,000 naira to two million people. This is the most Stupid thing I've heard in my life Economy thrives on productivity 5,000 comes to almost 200 billion monthly that goes into what voice mail Imagine if they say niai talk, please put a team of people together Let us see this 200 billion that we are proposing What can we do by way of setting up the MSMEs? You know by way of setting up productive ventures by way of putting up things to engage Our youths we cannot afford 200 billion but let's take 50 percent 100 billion let's say about 3 billion to each of the state every month What can you do about youth engagement sort of cottage industries guy? I put up a little post on my Facebook page and I said look with about 50 to 100,000 What can you do in fact with 10 10 right 30 from 10,000 overnight over 800 people applied 800 I just thought well. This is this Facebook stuff. I said if you are serious no transport for you Nothing come down to my office about 500 people showed up I used one week morning till night seven days to interview people Every day and tears came down my eyes when I heard what Nigerians are quite all might could do with 10. Let's say 20,000 naira They are now brought in the highest amount with 50,000 naira. These guys gave me it on record Mind-boggling, you know ventures. I could only accommodate about a hundred people because of the funds I had and So many of them have paid back that money 50,050 because I said it with a hundred thousand I couldn't accommodate more. I'm a private person I brought it down to 50,000 imagine you Tokyo two three billion It means that at 300,000. I have one thousand people monthly to give them 300,000 naira Imagine what a quai boom will turn into All right You to be engaged and then they now just want to carry this 200 billion and give ghost people Which you don't have a register. You don't have anything. How are we thinking as government? It bothers me All right. All the stories are making headlines this morning. Let's just slide over to the daily Independent the main story for them this morning is we can't control threats in our cyber space That's a golden to stakeholders of say say internet security in Nigeria to open for invasion I just want to get you quick comment Consent look There has to be a national policy That every youth must carry a laptop today is a reverse Carry a laptop the police will pass on you But the way of the future is the laptop the way of the future is I city Instead of mr. President being the minister of petroleum. It should be the minister of I city Because that's the way of the future. Look at what young Nigerians are doing the unicorns If you come to a place like Lagos or you you be amazed as a policy The Nigerian state must introduce that every child must understand one computer language from primary school The way is being done in Poland so much so that at secondary school the children working with offshore companies and making more money than their parents in Poland today, I had the MIT no MD on my birthday and I think the mother is Polish when he he puts certain things across I mean I couldn't close my mouth and we have a nation where children are being hounded for carrying laptop What a waste and because they do not see this, you know, the the cyber world is global you can isolate by creating an ecosystem You can isolate the frosters because we do not have an understanding of this new generation Of this new age of this fourth revolution because we do not have that we have no plans whatsoever To control and regulate a cyberspace. All we do is run around. We see a young child with a laptop We carry the person if it's done in England if it's done in UK if it's done in France if it's done in It is no rocket science Go and copy what they're doing the cyber world is Once in a while, there's a problem But it does not mean that because there is a problem once in a while you have to jettison it It's not possible. The future is technology and being able to control the cyberspace must be a national concern Because we don't have any optional alternative to it. I use that's their future and we must give it to them We owe them that all right Let's also check out this other headline and share your thoughts on it on the daily trust newspaper Nigerian air to commence operation April the 22nd sounds like good news Sounds like good news and I'm actually optimistic Against the run of play. I think that I will as much as I know the federal government from time to time I like the fact that the federal government will just have 10 5% shares the foreign universal will have 49 and Then the rest will be shared amongst Nigerians that are interested I will be one of those that will be interested because You know, he bombed air has told me that if you handle the the airline business Professionally, it is something that is the way of the future and I agree with them And you know, I heard during your preliminary introductions and then your banters the fact that you know Government come and said, do you know who I am that time has come when I mean you you can't you as the empty I don't know. I would look at the the organogram, you know Who are points who but I think that the federal government should just sit back and be regulatory They've done it in this company in in reverse state. I'm trying to I'm just seeing the name But I can't quite pick it out. They've done it and it's a success story, you know, and I can't I remember with time, you know, I think, you know, but it's a private PPP private public enterprise and is working well I'm doing a PPP with the federal government today doing an estate and the Senate committee came and they said This was the best estate they've seen in this country where the federal government is involved Nobody no minister has asked me give me a location the fashioner There's nothing I've asked why do not give and he has never one day told me And I need this number of houses and even the ministry get the staff They just they act so professionally because they've seen somebody who wants to act professionally So it can be done and I would they say there is a success story of a PPP that can be replicated But when you want to be political because I'm not in a PC and they know I'm not So you can't come to me and talk politics on an investment. I'm putting my money No, and they respect that I think the government takes you the way you present yourself If you just want to like to call to them and be you know, the subservient they match on you But when you want to be professional like I've been they let you be All right another story that you know spread across some papers this morning is that of them the governor of a number of Slater EFCC places governor Willie O'Bianna on watch list Reaction what goes around comes around man. I tell everybody when you are in government be careful One day you go come out If you like bring your brother on the seat It is just a matter of weeks and then the family squabbles and you're in trouble Your best antidote when you're in government is be professional and be ready to walk away and face your past You can just walk away There's something called you see Nigeria is getting to that stage where there's going to be accountability I can tell you this for free many things are going to change That's why I say those who want to get into politics in 2023 be careful what you're going there for the eyes of Nigerians are starting to turn real red and Things are not going to be like it has been in the past if your your your Motivation is not to serve the people if your motivation is not going to create impact if your motivation is to go and loot Just forget it because Nigerians are starting to draw a line between the looters and the bakers There are people in the past who have done been there to loot our commonwealth. They are looters They are exploiters That's what they are and as a result the cake just keeps shrinking all the time Nigerians don't need bakers people want to get in there to serve they want to bake the national cake to be bigger They are sent there for on a mission to restore this country Those are the people that Nigerians are going to crowdfund and change their mindset and get a new country that works So Mr. Obian on the time has come when he's got to face his past and he's got to face is I mean total agreement Not just on him, but with EFCC on every public office holder that leaves the office They should keep him cool somewhere and then interrogate his past before he continues But there are some arguments saying that you know the energy is not consistent I mean you not have the EFCC going after almost every governor if you like this probably might just be a witch hunt Yeah, there will be a time when we have a government that is not a party There will be a time when we have a government that is not a party People don't seem to know how to draw a line between party and government and the people in power today Are not for the essence of the office, which is governance, which is providing the dividends of democracy to the people There are politicians which is protecting their party protecting their own come over to our side and you are clean What what what what what an abuse of office? So sister Don't worry You are on a PC. You are sins are forgiven Pray to God That they continue in power Even when they continue in power the Bible says they are rose a Pharaoh who knew not Joseph. It always happens Okay, a PC. They have factions all you need to do is belong to the wrong faction and guy They come for you and you cannot always write so the best thing for you is do what is right So that no matter which way the pendulum swings your hands are clean That's why the Bible says that the righteous is as bold as a lion Mine is do the right thing. Don't take solace in changing the party some days back I was told that my friend Fanny Coyote has been called for private chat I thought they said that once he gets to a PC that the sins are forgiven But they say they don't call and for proud. I don't know whether he went there and got stuck on I don't know what it is or what it is But the fact is that do the right thing and then stay clean All right, another story that is making headlines that he's becoming very troublesome or worrying right now is a That of a renewed the militancy So caption here and the independence militants again attack a Jeep facility in reverse threaten more attacks You see some of us with the key actors in bringing peace to the Niger Delta I Was the person that was in charge of the risk police restoration of the baramatu kingdom I was a consultant on that project and there were several things we did to assuage the feelings of the people the the the Niger Delta's felt really really had done by the federal government and The way to express their grievances was for them to like take up arms against the system Unlike what we have where human beings are being slaughtered and all sorts of rubbish They felt if they touch the system a little bit that they will wake up and to some extent I think it worked Okay, now of recent is of maintaining the peace what you find is something Infuriating where you say if you find oil you become, you know, Niger Delta, okay? Ndc, okay? Now the means the essence of the Ndc It was not a reward system per se It was a system set to ameliorate as it were the decadence in the society in the system In the ecosystem over the years So this money was to see to what extent they can get the environment the people kind of rehabilitate them or kind of Create some level of so-called for them. So it was not just because you are all producing the dash is something So when you see somewhere that has just come in and has no Environmental degradation or impact whatsoever and you say share the money I think we're not thinking through the process You can set up another system that's kind of takes care of environmental degradation And then you also set up a reward system where you say if you produce oil You get this amount of percentage those are different compartments But don't come and say the 13 percent which is not for all production per se But to undertake remedials for the degradation of the environment over the years Where the people have lost their means of livelihood. They've lost everything that has to do with them They've been exposed to a lot of health hazards over the years So see how we can use this funds to emulate as it where they are they are they are polite You don't bring somebody in and say boom get it from the beginning they not only lose the essence They also infuriate the people But I think it's for us to talk both to the two sides of the divide We talk to the system and say please don't bring in more heat and we talk to the people and say please Let's see how we can dialogue and get them to do But let the let not the federal government call the bluff of the night at deltas It will be an evil wind that will blow no man. No good at the same time Let us not smite our nose to spite our face. So we are engaging our people We are talking to them and I believe that they are listening But the federal government has to make life easy for us because a stage comes when you appear to be a traitor And that is when he gets out of hand and he can be really bad So I think that both sides of the divide must be engaged as early as possible Okay, so let's cost it down now with the Lagos state budget of one point three nine trillion era With infrastructure and education topping the list When someone who removed my brother and but it was my schoolmate I was very angry was like why are you doing this to me? You know, which is the way we think But I am starting to fall in love with this man, you know When you have a budget that lays emphasis on education and infrastructure It is a budget that I will support any day anytime. The only thing is that I wish he had put health Not under infrastructure, but as a separate subhead because unless you are healthy Education is meaningless. So I wish he had made healthcare education Infrastructure, okay infrastructure to create a platform for the economy to thrive Healthcare and education healthcare to make it who healthy and education to create a template for a sustainable future If you have put healthcare, I would have I don't know what the budget is But the headline would have been healthcare Education infrastructure, so for my brother some will look for removing my brother I am but I have forgiven you and then we are we are happy with what you are doing God bless you. You are You're thinking right All right, I thank you Ezekiel and Etok for all your comment But just one more before we actually let you go I just want you to get your quick thoughts concerning that are still on you know corruption and all assets declaration quote bars EFCC from investigating Dick said If I had my way, I will not comment on that all that issue of asset declaration and EFCC and the rest they just meaningless to me Why do I say so we've seen people who went into office is is there on our face? penniless and Then four years after they own so much estates So what is what's this ritual of asset declaration and these and that they are just tools that you just keep you know Then you can pull it and intimidate I really don't have faith and confidence in all this asset declaration because it's all over our faces. It's there It's there call any politician and I will say what did he have before you got into office? How did he suddenly you were a Electoral we know what your salary was. We know where you were living. We've seen you for the past 20 years We've known you and then you get into office and you come and the first thing is you get into shelter Africa state And then boom business make a house that you have and they chew your children and now schooling abroad Bros waiting be your salary So what's all this ritual that about so that the day you want to escape to another place or the way they Want they want to you to come to their side They don't pull a piece of paper show it to you and then you kind of sing start singing a new tune It's something that is more vindictive people are not afraid of it It's like look just play the game and you are good to go So I'm not I'm not really as excited as people would expect me to be I'm not very they will come when we'll have a governance That is faceless as far as justice is concerned where they don't care whose office God where you've got to do the Right thing if not, so you do the crime you do the time that day will come in Nigeria in my time I tell you this for a fact. So let them keep dancing naked Many thanks Ezeko yeah, I took her and thank you so much for making our time to be part of the conversation We really do appreciate and we look forward to having more of you. Thank you so much. Thanks for the privilege I do not take this lightly. Thank you All right, that's some of the pressure segment on the breakfast is born we'll be taking What happened this day in history November the 20th still does