 Deb kissing is the first item of business this afternoon is the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body Question Time. My Tory members are wishing to ask a supplementary to press the request of people at the end during your relevant question. doubt of the relevant question. To ask the Scottish Parliament corporate body whether it will provide an update on the efficiency of the Pass holder secure entry system to the Parliament in light of reports that pass holders are experiencing difficulties in gaining access. I thank the member for the question. Since April, we have had around 800 pass holders attending Parliament on business days. Although I recognise that there have been a few instances of pass holders experiencing difficulties, those have all been resolved. If anyone is having persistent problems with their pass, I would urge them to contact the pass studio. We would be happy to discuss any particular issues with the pass holder and provide support. I thank the member for that answer. I do not know if the system records how often someone fails to get access, but, one day last week, it took me nine attempts, I tried each of the turnstiles twice and it kept turning me down. Since I lodged this question, a number of colleagues, MSPs and Parliament staff have spoken to me that they also have had similar problems. I do not know if the advice is that we, I think that some people have got their fingerprint removed from the pass would be one answer or get a new fingerprint retaken or if there is some other way we can take this forward. I thank the member for raising the issue. I do appreciate how frustrating it is to have intermittent difficulties with the system. I appreciate the member raising the fact that he spoke to other members and pass holders who experience the same. I would encourage him, in the first instance, to book an appointment at the pass studio and they can check the pass. I will also ensure that the contractor is made aware of the intermittent issues and ask if there are any upgrades that could address any potential glitches and could speed up the process. To ask the corporate body when it will next review the car parking arrangements for MSPs and staff. As the member will recognise, the increased security measures for the car park were recommended by Police Scotland following terrorist attacks in the UK in 2017, and the car park was updated in 2021. While there is no intention to formally review the car parking arrangements, the operation of the car park and experience of users is constantly reviewed and monitored as we seek to balance the need for security with the ease of use for members and their staff. Can I thank Claire Baker for that response? SBC members will know that some time ago I wrote to the chief executive and to them about the difficulties encountered in both exiting and entering the car park. At that time, fairly frequent malfunctions of the barriers that had made that entry and exit extremely slow. Things improved markedly, mainly as a result of careful and judicious manual operation of the entry and exit system, but in recent weeks the process has again been exceptionally slow, although I think that it has been a little better in recent days. Can I just get confirmation, which I think will be of interest to many other members, that the more efficient manual operation will be in place from now on so as to avoid the lengthy delays, especially when several cars and motorbikes are waiting with the resulting car fumes that that entails? I thank the member for the question. I understand that she has a letter with clopart body at the moment and will respond as soon as possible. It is fair to say that there have been teasing problems with the vehicle entry system and those have been dealt with by facilities management and contractors. The member is asking whether we intend to remain in manual mode. I would have to say that that is not the intention, but the more secure operation is to work as it should be operated. There is one outstanding issue to resolve with the vehicle entry gates in the induction loop system. Work to resolve that will be disruptive. The plan is to take it forward during the summer recess. That will lead to a reduction in the need to operate in manual mode and restore the integrity of the system. It is about ensuring that we have the level of security that is required. I know that that is not the answer that the member looks for, but it is an intention to move away from operating in manual mode. To ask the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body what action it takes to ensure that children and young people from across Scotland can visit their Scottish Parliament. I thank the member for her question. SPCB provides a school engagement programme through its Public Engagement Services office. We offer schools free sessions and hours at the Parliament. Understandably, Covid changed things for schools and our service. We now have a digital school service, as well as restarting our team who visit schools across Scotland. Those services are popular and especially appreciated by those who do not want to travel to Edinburgh and offer a number of reasons to find coming to Edinburgh to be too challenging. Across our services, we have reached schools in 69 out of 73 constituencies and we are continuing to improve ways of maximising our engagement with schools. Children and young people also visit the Parliament to take part in committee meetings, meet their MSPs and our engaging events programme. I thank Christine Grahame for that answer and appreciate the good work that the Parliament does in the education team. Members will, like me, have visited schools in their own constituencies and seen the interests that children have in the workings of our Parliament. I have been disappointed on the last number of occasions that the young children that I have visited have not been able to visit the Parliament due to cost constraints. They find the cost of transport very expensive. Is there anything that the Scottish Parliament can do to assist pupils in less well-off areas or perhaps those in rural areas who find the travel to Parliament too costly? We are continuing to review how best to deliver our education services in the most effective and inclusive way post Covid. It is important to the SPCB that we can ensure equity and meet the aims of our public engagement strategy to break down barriers for those least likely to engage with us and that we take into account other commitments such as reaching net zero and ensuring the most effective use of our resources. There are many factors around distance travel and deprivation that we would want to consider. From our evaluation forms, we know that 25 per cent of schools say that cost is a factor. To date, the SPCB's approach for those who cannot travel to Edinburgh to visit us has been to provide targeted services in schools. Our outreach and digital services are popular and move other significant barriers such as time away from the classroom. The SPCB is happy to explore whether, as part of this review, offering some sort of subsidy is within its power and helpful to meet our engagement goals of inclusivity. It is important that we consider the feasibility of any subsidy within the context of reviewing our education service as a whole in the context of our wider corporate commitments, including public engagement and sustainability. We will ask officials to engage with schools from across Scotland and look to other legislatures to ensure that any decision takes account of the needs of schools alongside our service capacity to support those needs. I wonder if I can ask Christine Grahame and the corporate body whether or not in the recent memory of the institution there has been any attempt to organise a parliamentary week or a parliamentary fortnight across all of the schools in Scotland that would then allow us to promote the activities and the work that goes on in this Parliament, so in effect reverse the situation that has been described previously in relation to visits but actually taking the Parliament, as it were, into the classrooms of Scotland. I think that my answers have given the endeavour to do this all the year round, but this is a specific question that he is asking me and I am happy to make inquiring into this with the corporate body and report back to him. To ask the Scottish Parliamentary Corporate Body what the newest developments are in the creation of Scottish Parliament apps to allow the public easier access to parliamentary papers and other resources. The corporate body does not develop mobile applications ourselves, however, we do utilise several mobile apps to help deliver services to the public. The latest development in this area involves officials working with suppliers to establish how we can bring access to broadcasting material via an app which will be available to the public to download. This app will allow the viewing of live proceedings as well as archived material. The main source of information about parliamentary proceedings remains the website. This has been designed to be accessible and compatible across different types of devices, including mobile phones and tablets. Members of the public, with any device with a web browser and internet connection, will be able to access all parliamentary business papers and other resources from this website. I do not happen to think that that is the satisfactory line that we should be taking, because I know that the corporate body will be aware of my keen interest in the matter of apps, apps that we can download from all the various stores that exist. I welcome the fact that Maggie Chapman has been able to tell me that there is work on going on a broadcast app, which I welcome. We should all be motivated to try to make it easier for the people of Scotland to access this Parliament and view its proceedings. I wonder whether I can ask Maggie Chapman to give me a couple of assurances. First, when we are developing these apps, will there also be space in that development work to create access to business papers, the official report? Will there be a digital annunciator that would allow someone that accesses the app to see what the current business of the Parliament is, who is speaking at any one time, what is being debated? Will there be, in the app that she has already mentioned in her first answer to me, a single-click access in the app to allow viewing of live broadcasts, because one of the problems with the website access to Scottish Parliament TV is that there are too many clicks and it is too difficult to find? My second question is, is it possible to say if a pilot version of the app that she has described or the app that I am describing might be possible to be trialled later this year? I thank Stephen Kerr for that supplementary and I take his point about the multiple clicks that you often have to go through on the website. That is something that we can take back to the web developers and maintainers to see if we can make that a much more streamlined process. On the specific questions of different apps, one of the reasons we do not go down the route of having different apps that members of the public and indeed members have to download from the app store, from Google Play, from other providers, is because that will require constant interaction and engagement with those providers to ensure that updates are compatible with our systems, that our systems are compatible with those apps, including security concerns. That is one of the fundamental reasons why that is not the preferred method of app provision for systems within the Parliament, whether that is for our own use as members or for the public. However, I hear what he says about the business papers, the digital enunciator as well, and we can certainly take those forward into conversations that we have about that. In terms of the pilot scheme, I think that that would be something that I would have to come back to to Mr Kerr on. I am not sure exactly at the stage how far our developments are, but I do know that Mr Kerr is meeting with our head of digital services next week, and I am sure that he can pick up some of those points as well. Thank you, Ms Chapman. That concludes Scottish Parliament corporate body questions. There will be a brief pause for the front bench's change before we move on to the next item of business.