 for our talk with the jet coach Robert solid the Robert solid report brought you by infinity dot com and slowmans coach how are you doing today always good brother are you doing okay as well so let's get i mean obviously the story of the last couple of hours is that it was reported by diana russini that jack wilson was approached about playing now she's saying three minutes ago that it was Aaron rogers who approached him and he didn't want to because of a fear of injury is there what's the real story here coach um i have no idea what players have with one another what teammates have with one another the conversations they have um i know that uh you know there was truly a reluctance to play and it was told to us in this building i i players won't be here i mean i just meant to quote the great mike tomlin we want volunteers not hostages um but with that said uh you know like about an hour ago i said in my press conference uh that came in here and he wants the ball he wants to play and um uh we had a conversation about it and i let him know where i'm at i let him know the things that he needs to get better at and uh in the same things i told him i'm going to tell you guys i'm just not ready to make a decision on whether or not i'm ready to give him the ball but but i know he wants it but it's it's on the table that he may get a chance to play again yeah now when when you sat him down coach you know my gut feeling is probably he lost confidence playing as poorly as he did the two games that he has sat have have you noticed that he's regained any confidence i mean he's not getting first team snaps so i don't know how you could see that but what's your vibe about him no for sure it's you know uh he has confidence yeah i think this is way different than a year ago um i think last year he completely lost confidence in himself um do i think he needed a breather uh absolutely i do think he needed a breather and um i do think that um if given the opportunity will he succeed yeah i think so but uh you know to be fair to the young man it's uh it's been a heck of a three years so so you've you you that so you're refuting that report that there has never been any sense that you've gotten from zack that he didn't want to play uh look i i i don't know what conversations are had you know these young men have a lot of conversations with one another in the locker room and if somebody pressed that from maybe he i have no idea but if he had a conversation with his family i have no idea but i know that he has a lot of confidence in himself to go out there and play i know he wants to play i know he's he's been very upset that he uh that he has been sad i know he feels like we would have won the game if he's you know that's his mindset so i only know what i know and i know that he wants the ball i know he's competitive attack and i know if uh if he is the guy for for sunday he'll go compete at tell us just like just like the other two would so um you know that's all i can go off of is based on the conversations i have with guys there's these young men have tons of conversations with a lot of guys and and you know apathetically like i said in my press conference you know these guys are this new age kid uh coming out they're they're used to sitting out bowl games because they got to take care of their draft status like kala williams is yeah it could it be possible yeah you know like that's these are all things that happen now and um it's just it almost seems like it's common where i think that's where i think we'll do with it the modern day athlete is missing the bowl with regards to team so you know is it conceivable that he had a conversation with his teammate is it plausible or whatever yeah i mean i mean i'm not going to say that it never happened but at the same time i know where his heart is i know he wants to play i know he still has that old school mentality that he goes out there for his teammates let me let me dig a little bit deeper though coach did you go to him because you heard this rumor or did he come to you and say listen i'm ready to go how did that play out he came to my office today you know they quarterbacks came in watch tape he walked into my office and said he wants the ball i had not gotten to the point where i wanted to have a conversation with anybody yet because i'm still trying to evaluate everything i'm still talking to coaches i'm still trying to digest the game from yesterday and and he walked into my office about an hour and a half ago now and we had a really good conversation and and he was pretty passionate about where he wants to go now is that enough for you or do you want to investigate to find out if that conversation was had oh i don't care if that conversation was had like i said i i'm always going to put myself in someone's shoes and and you know if that conversation was had that that's not a it's not like it's a negative i don't understand why that would be such a big deal coach can you help me understand what's going on with boil and and simian i'm just trying to understand i'm watching you guys needed it seemed such just a little bit of offense to to get a win that could have kept you alive and it just did not seem like either guy was capable of doing it is there a problem with the play calling are the guys simply not nfl caliber quarterbacks i i just think i speak for jet fans when i say i do not understand what's happening offensively with this football team um well look uh the the best thing i can tell you is it's been an unfortunate series of events when when that lightning bolt struck our turf at uh four plays into the season um it's been a a challenge to keep guys healthy on the offensive line and it's like i said like it's not that i don't have faith in the five guys we have but there are things that pop up in terms of continuity and nuance that just are continually showing up playing and play out that weekend and week out with all the turnover and again they're not excuses because we still got to find ways to get better i do think we had opportunities to to put up some big points in yards yesterday uh with with some missed opportunities but at the same time i do think they did take advantage of opportunities that were there so it was a little bit of both do i think that we could have done some things better as a coaching staff with regards to play calling and all that sure there's always going to be that it's it uh it blame is never on one person ever on one person but um you know collectively it's uh it's it feels kind of like a domino effect of um you would like the domino to just stand there for for a couple of weeks in a row just so we can keep building on it keep building the pile but it just seems like whenever we get it going a little bit in a string somebody knocks down the domino and the rest of them come falling down with it and uh but but but overall guys like these guys are professional football players and and you're just looking for some continuity not that continuity will happen every week but uh some semblance of it would be great now you've told us in the past couple weeks you know you don't worry about your job that's not something you worry about rex ryan today on our morning show said they just don't want another game they're going to clean house when you hear something like that what's your thought and then rex ryan is over the past year has certainly become a big supporter of yours but he said they are going to clean house what what what do you respond to that no i can't worry about all that stuff i you know it's a um that's that's our business you know the um you're always you're always looking for whatever it is but my my concern is houston and that's all i can focus on you know it's uh um it's part of the job i yeah we've gotten to know you a little bit here coach um and and i have a perception of you that makes it very difficult for me to believe that you'd be okay with a player even in passing not wanting to play for you but i'm just surprised that you've said that you don't know why it's a big deal somebody's got to go play that position right i mean so i'm gonna go get beat up at zack wilson can't no no that that's a great question and it's not that it's not it's it's not that it's not a big deal um i'm saying that if it crosses their mind in this age of player and their thought and the way they think it's really not a big deal at the end of the day there's a difference to me between exact take the ball and him saying god i really don't want it different that is different then he's out i just know if i if he says if you said coach uh zack i want you to start the sunday and he says no i really would rather not then then he's out yeah then then he's out but that but that's the whole like that's a whole different that's a whole different story but i'm not gonna i'm not gonna beg a player to be on the football field that's not that's not how we do things that's not how we'll ever do things but i find it hard to believe and again it's he already demonstrated it um if if if a coach goes to a player and and says hey man i need you on the football field and he says no um well that's a whole nother kind of worms that we'll talk about let's end on a positive how about that coach so you're playing uh houston and this is what demico ryan said about you i don't know if you heard this yet um he's done a great job with the jets i learned how to coach from being under salla he taught me a lot from scheme to handling players game planning i owe a lot to him probably the reason why i'm standing here before you great man when you hear somebody say something like that who's been very successful in his first year what does that mean to you i had uh i love me obviously he's um he's a special human uh had the honor of being able to coach him and uh when he was a defensive rookie of the year had the honor of bringing him in as a when i was a my first time as a coordinator got him in as a quality control uh to to learn kind of the ropes and he came up the right way in terms of just having to draw cards and do all that good stuff and then uh being a linebacker's coach and uh just kind of watching them grow in terms of trying to teach it the way he did it and learning that not everyone was as him because he was a special talent to ridiculously special talent and uh and learning how to how to coach every player and uh and then from a schematic standpoint him just being able to piece together the front and the back end and um and understanding all of that and then obviously as a head coach is watching him he's he's an awesome awesome human being and uh him and his wife and and his children they're a tremendous family a tremendous man and uh it's it's been awesome to see him have success one final thing if you lose another game would you allow Aaron Rodgers to play um uh let's try not losing a game how about that all right very very decked a very nice move all right coach we thank you for coming on all right thank you all right that was the robert soler report by infinity dot com discover more about the luxury and performance of an infinity qx 60 crossover at infinity usa dot com or visit your local infinity dealer today in slowmans slowmans has low price home heating oil for all new york football fans low prices zero sacrifices for 100 years slowmans has been a staple in home comfort called 1866 oil deal all right we'll break down what the coach said and also the comment i made in the middle about kaleb williams not playing in the ball game for usa we just talked to robert soler we'll try to piece together what he was saying at no point according to solid did he go to zack wilson and zack wilson said i'd rather not play but it does sound like zack wilson might have said to a teammate why should i play and get hurt and what solid was trying to tie it into is that the way college football is now in a team sport and it's hard to it's hard to really blame the guys so usc is not going to the college playoffs obviously they lost too many games and the presumptive number one pick in the draft kaleb williams has said today he is not playing in their ball game now that's a terrible look if you're a member of a team but if you're a businessman and you want to keep yourself healthy for the draft it's probably the smart play now let's spin it around to zack wilson who probably thinking to himself why should i get crushed behind an offensive line that's like paper mache get myself hurt and any chance i've ever been in an nfl quarterback might be shot if i separate my shoulder if i tear up my knee i think he was putting those two things together don and saying listen he didn't say to me if he said it to me he'd be out of here but if he expressed concern to teammates then so be it yeah but isn't that convenient that still would bother me i'd still want to investigate i'd want to call aron roger say did he talk to you did he actually have a conversation about not wanting to play it sounds like he doesn't want to hear it but the kid said to him i want to play so isn't that all that counts no because you because you choose it to be all that counts wouldn't you want to find out did aron roger's have to convince you to play did your teammates have to convince you to play and i would definitely make it part of my decision process whether he plays again or not oh he's gonna play again i but if if let's say peter and i having a conversation and i've got some reticence about doing something on the show but i never say it to you and i ended up doing it anyway the fact that i expressed some reticence to peter doesn't mean anything the fact that he might have said to roger's hey should i really do this and get myself hurt for nothing if he says it to the coach i'm not doing it then you then you fire his butt but the question is why then did some what does it say about his relationships with people if he said that to a teammate and they leaked it to diana not a great look no it's it's his teammate trying to get out in public that this guy's kind of soft but michael you're your work ethic has never been in question all right we've never had an issue with you not wanting to give your all this is somebody who has a history of being a bit of a problem but never work ethic wise whatever it is he wasn't all in last year right his teammates gave up on him last year he had to win them back over and now word is leaked out that he didn't want to play now he told you i want to play coach but you wouldn't want to investigate to find out if this guy's all in or not whether aron rogers had to call him to convince him to play but what difference does it make don because if unless he says it to you and he ends up being out on the field then he's out on the field no matter what just it shows a weakness like yeah he doesn't have the guts to tell me but he was telling some of his teammates and had to be convinced to play i need to know if he's in there's a question about confidence there's a question about leadership all those let me ask you this on the fire if you find out that he said to rogers i don't know if i want to play you what are you gonna do and he tells you he wants to play what are you gonna do not play him i i don't i don't know if i want to play somebody that's not all in well he said to you he's all in yeah but he said he had to be convinced to be in then he tells me how do i know that's not out of weakness he doesn't have the guts to tell me he doesn't have the guts to tell me the guy that can cut him that uh he doesn't want to play like i need to investigate to find out if this guy's all in or not and it didn't seem like solid was interested in finding out the answer because he probably knows the answer is no he doesn't maybe doesn't want to maybe doesn't want to hear that answer he wants act wilson to start well you better he better be right well how could he be wrong the the the the two other options are brutal they're brutal michael but they are they're guys that they may not have the talent but they're in they want to play the guy's scared to get hurt how is he going to play is he going to play to the best of his ability is he going to rush for that first down or is he just going to throw the ball away and say i don't need this garbage like how the rest of the team going to be affected by him not wanting to be out there and him not giving his all because he's afraid he's going to get hurt you know how players play scared michael they play poorly now granted their options aren't good but at this point michael i mean it's sending a message to the rest of the team do you really want to play somebody that's scared to go out there and play that maybe doesn't that has to be convinced to go out there and play like like solace said the tomlin quote you know their volunteer is not hostages and i need to find out are you are you all in well it's funny though i think the most serious aspect of this is something that peter brought up a teammate heard it and leaked it to somebody unless a coach heard it and didn't want to hear it from zack wilson and by getting it out in public made zack wilson come in and go i'm all in no matter i'll tell you what though i don't care how he got there if he says he's all in then he's gonna play all right but but it it's it felt like and we've gotten to know robert solow over the last three years all right he's all in we may not be happy with his answers he might not be the greatest of guests at times but the guy is all in he does not sound like somebody that is just going to take this i would think he'd want to investigate it and it just he kind of just sounded neutered to me almost like it's not his call it's like whatever i don't need this aggravation if he can play he says he wants to play the fine i'll believe him and we'll just play him because somebody maybe is telling him to play him or he's or he just sounded like a defeated man that this is a guy that's all in whether you like him as a coach or not he's all in he cares about this team he cares about winning and now he's going to make a decision on who wants to play quarterback as bad as simian and boil are i'm sure they're going to line up and say play me play me and now there's information out there credible information that this guy had to be convinced by a teammate to go out there and play and you're cool with that if you're the head coach of the team that you're going to just accept that at face value because you have no other choice i would be red hot but he now maybe he doesn't have to express that to us but then you know he did the defending it like it's he said it's no big deal all right he says it's no big deal i don't believe him i believe that robert salah is red hot but he also said that if it was said to him i'm not playing the guy would be cut he said that right but i just think he's giving himself an out because i don't think he's got the power to cut him he sounds like somebody that is he's all year he has sounded like somebody that is answering questions that he's not the person that should be answering them well i mean this is something that this is certainly uh something that fans don't care about but i think it's disgraceful and this is a guy that i've had interactions with and i like it's disgraceful that joe douglas while the ship be sinking has not said a word i mean are you kidding me don't you owe it to your fan base to explain why you went into the season with with zack wilson as the backup quarterback and all the machinations that have followed doesn't the gm owe it to the fan base you're going to just sit here while i don't i only talk you know during the bye week and after the season well no when the ship is sinking you got to talk brian cashman talks why can't you you know it's it's really because you're hanging robert salah to try to answer all these questions if i'm robert salah i'm disgusted that i'm the one every week not just every week almost every day has to address the media once a week come on with us and one of the major problems with this team whether he's uh the problem a major problem a part of the problem is joe douglas and he hasn't spoken out of word unbelievable and you've got to have some sort of and i understand well what their buy was earlier in the season or whatever but at some point when you see that your coach is getting lit up your coach is getting destroyed you're getting destroyed that the only person that gets to speak is the coach and that he doesn't go out there and and say something anything that's why maybe we wouldn't buy it maybe we wouldn't like it but at least there'd be something that that's why when people don't talk after a game and we bring it up and everyone who cares that he blew off the media if you don't talk somebody else has to robert salah gets paid a lot of money but he shouldn't have to take every sling and arrow for what's happened with the jets there should be some form of help in joe douglas speaking and explaining what has gone on unless joe douglas is just hanging robert salah out there to dry so he takes that it's a bad look joe you look weak by not talking during this this ship is sinking it's underwater right now and you're not a word what's worse than sinking it's on fire thinking i just but peter you know what i'm talking about the guy that's his motto is all gas and no break is cool that his quarterback might not be all in i don't i don't think he said that though he didn't say he was cool that it's all that that he he said he doesn't have a problem with someone in in in his stage in his career and who he is having the feeling as a fleeting thought right and say it's a teammate he didn't say he was good with him coming he said very specifically if he came to me and said that he'd be done but him having a conversation which is like i don't know i mean yeah i get you it's certainly disappointing to hear it but like is that enough to to think he should be out i mean they did do a lot with him over the last couple of years guys to make him doubt himself and to make him think i'm not their guy anyway weird i don't know it just it's it's a really just every day it's something with this team no it's getting worse every day and it's really just embarrassing every single because we're we're having a conversation about who's going to be their quarterback is it going to matter is it going to matter if it's Zach wilson are they beating houston no are they beating Miami are they going to survive you know what's what's the latest with uh with rogers is he going to it it is just it's they grab our attention because they they're so interesting in their ridiculousness and yet still they're mathematically alive so the game still means something if if we're going to have a legitimate conversation on who the Giants quarterback should be against the Packers and the way the Packers are right now playing it doesn't probably matter because they're mathematically alive certainly the Jets are mathematically alive but really doesn't matter because no matter who the quarterback is they can't figure it out i've never seen an offense this embarrassing