 Some group members of the People's Democratic Party in Akiti State have staged a protest to show the grievances it's over the irregularities that marred the conduct of the just-concluded ad hoc ward congress. The protesters were led by some of the governorship aspirants on the platform of the party, including former governor-engineer Shegun Oni. He rejected the congress which was supervised by the committee set up by the national secretariat. The protesters converged on the junction of Dalimor area of Aduakiti. They were seen coercing no congress, cancelled the exercise while some of them carried placards with inscriptions bearing their minds and agitation. One nice thing about it to do is to do away with delegates that you go and use the automatic delegates. That will not be controversial. That will be straight forward. Those people, those people, those people are alright for the elderly passing in the party. They've been selected them long time ago. We are saying no to Maumao of Akiti. We want the congress to be cancelled. Immediately effect. I am very sure that the national will do justice to this issue. They know that one person cannot be, cannot be dragging our party like this in Akiti. They want to win. They want to win 2022 by God's grace. We are begging the national to cancel the congress immediately. We are saying no to Maumao in Akiti State. Speaking with newsmen Senator Ulujimi alleged that former governor of the state Ayodhili Fayoshi hijacked the election materials thus preventing a free fair process. There is a need to listen to the people of Akiti. There is a need to look at other ways of resolving these issues. There is a need for everyone to sit on a table and reconcile. Without that, the elections here will be very tough for our party. I have heard that the protesters today have also been told that the protesters in front of the party secretary in Guadalajara, we have process. When you do, when you conduct a congress, successfully conducted as has been done on Saturday, the next step is to approach the AP committee to be settled by the party and ventilate your grievances. It is not by protesting, it is not by calling people. And we are being joined by Lanre Ogunsui. He is a former commissioner for information in Akiti State. Yeah, good evening. Thank you very much for joining us. He is anti-protest and of course we also have Larry Lainka. He is a director of Media and Publicity Bicicolourally campaign organization and he is pro-protest. All right gentlemen, thank you very much for joining us. Yeah, thank you very much. Good evening. So I'm going to start with the Kola Walei organization representative. You're pro-protest and why are you in support of this protest? As we are hearing from that report that there are other means of addressing this issue at the party national level, why go through the protest? You want me to react to that? Yes, I want to hear why you are in support of the protest and why this protest even happened in the first place. In democracy, protests are normal and also in politics conflicts are very, very normal. It is the way of resolving conflicts that there won't be so much damage that we can talk about. Protest is a way of pouring out emotions about actions and inactions within an organization. I'm happy that the protests are peaceful. I'm happy that the protests are, they are not ambiguous. They are straightforward and what they want is, say for example in my local government, I was to bring the party electoral officers to the local government and I did contact them and they assured me, they asked me to stay. They told me that I can't contact them but they would rely on me to lead them to the local government. But at about 5 o'clock and they stopped picking my calls and so nobody came to my local government. You can only appeal a process but when there is no process, you cannot appeal what didn't take place. So you're telling me that there was no Congress in your local government area? I cannot be in the 177 wards but in my wards, which is the global world one in the Mambadoku government as well as the 11 other wards in the Mambadoku government, people waited and waited and waited and there were no officers. So what are we going to appeal? Something that didn't take place. So we have to allow the people to know the National Working Permission. That there was no, you cannot appeal an irregular election but if there was nothing, then what are you going to appeal? Okay. Mr. Gunsu, you are the one who is against this protest. You're saying that there was a free and free... No, I'm not against... In fact, I come from a protest background in politics where I was a student union president and we know that in student unionism, we do protest regularly against water, rice, small food, security. So I come from a protest culture because I believe that the word in itself as it stands today is because of people protested against existing structures and systems. That's why we move forward. So long as the protests are not violent, I think protests are useful. Interesting. Okay. Let me come to you, Leire. What exactly is your position on what's happened on Saturday? Was there or was there not a Congress of sorts and the results that were sent to the National, where did those results come from? What do we do now that you have protested? What do you think the National's reaction is going to be? Again, I asked at the beginning, there is a modus operandi. There are ways that you go about it without having to protest but now you have protested. What responses are you hoping to get from the National on this issue? The National Working Committee is a brand new National Working Committee. It was actually brought in place because those people can do a better job than the people that they replaced. So it is hoped that since this is their first outing and when you can say it is a hot one, but they are going to now bring, I know Sineto very well. He actually presided over his own remover in 1993 as a form of deepening democracy. So if you know that story very well, he sat down and people voted against him and he came down. He stepped down. But today, is he down? So I believe that with those experiences he will be able to tell the gladiators that the interests of the party members should be supreme. It is not about who is senior, who is the most dexterous in politics, who is fastest. It is about what can you get for your party members because the interesting crisis within the party is robbing the party of victory and it is that it is a natural state for PPP. All right. I think that Larry Layinka has just joined us. Let's quickly get to hear his thoughts. Mr Layinka, we lost you for a second there. Quickly, tell me what you think about the process that happened in Ekiti on Saturday. Yeah, well, the President was clear to all. It was a congress that was conducted in accordance with the constitutional of the past. And five days from the Electoral Committee held a meeting with the state owners in the hotel in Agriki. And the meeting, and the meeting, all the aspirants, the major aspirants, I think eight aspirants were represented in that meeting. I know there, after the meeting, issues were asked, issues were raised. And the committee, the committee that came to Rambuja, clearly and successfully answered all the questions raised. At some point, the committee chairman, the person who stood for the committee chairman, that is the former National Guard, that's how the party had to lead the party guideline in respect to the conduct of congress. Congress is still there. And after that, materials, 222 agents were appointed by the aspirant there. Two people were appointed as agents. And materials for each local government were distributed to the three local government and federal officers, also appointed by the party. Those three local government did not come from Ekiti. They did not come from, some of them are from the north, some of them are from east. They came to Ekiti at 48 of them for that purpose. Materials were distributed to them in the presence of the aspirants. And those people lead to their respective local governments. Well, there are people who are claiming that they did not see, there are people who are claiming, I'm sorry, hang on. There are people who are complaining that they did not see anybody from that group in their local government or even in the awards. And they waited till evening. There was, it was a no show. So how do you categorize this as a free fair process that you say was duly conducted? The question is this, the issue is this, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the party in the state, it is the duty of the party in the state to appoint two, and then two world returning officers. But what? That means two times one, 77 words. That, that one was done by the party. It is the duty of those two, two, world returning officer to go to the walls and conducts the congresses, that the congressada. It is now the duty of those world returning officers to come back to the local government relation office and may return to the local government electoral officers. Those local government electoral officers will not bring the resource to the electoral committee in aggregate. So quickly, okay. So quickly, because, because we're almost out of time, I'll just ask one quick question. Now that we're seeing protests in equity state against the process, what do you think needs to be done? Because again, if the PDB is intending to win the APC in equity elections, its house must not be divided. So what is the way forward quickly? Let me give you an example. In 2018, there was crisis that the primary was disrupted. It has to be put to school. And the later at the primary, the president governor was spelted with pure water, sachet of pure water. At the end of the party, the party came together. That is also going to happen to PDB. Okay. People with people with people who express their grievances. At the end of the day, there will be reconciliation. Nobody will be brought to the table. And all of us, we still have to work together. And that is what is going to happen. What is happening now, like I said, is not mad. People who are looking at defeat, of course, we make noise. I've also been a decision before that. We're also going to make noise. We have to go. Unfortunately, time is not on our side. Langeria Gonsuyi is a former commissioner for information in the KT state and also Larry Olayinka. It's the director of media and publicity BC Kolaole campaign organization. Thank you very much, gentlemen, for speaking with us. Thank you. All right.