 I will. So I will read the preamble and we'll get going. Hallie coming. I believe she is. I haven't heard she isn't. Okay. All right, we'll just start. Okay. Pursuant to chapter 20 of the acts of 2021, this meeting will be conducted by a remote means members of the public who wish to access the meeting may do so in the following manner by emailing at Steve McCarthy at McCarthy s at Amherst m a dot gov. That's m c c a r t h y s at Amherst m a dot gov. No in person attendance of members of the public will be permitted, but every effort will be made to ensure that the public can adequately access the proceedings in real time by a technological means. In the event that we are unable to do so for reasons of economic hardship and despite best efforts post on the town website and audio or video reporting transcript or other comprehensive record of proceedings as soon as possible after the meeting. And with that done, I'll call us to order at 501 p.m. On April 4. And I'll take a roll call of attendance done. Here. Gaston. Yeah. Dylan. Yeah. Hallie. Here. And I am here and Steve McCarthy is here also. So first on the agenda is. It's called the order public comment. Is there anyone here for general public comment? If so, raise your hand. By pressing the little raise hand button. And I guess no one is here. Okay, licenses. So the first one is a common pictures license application for the downtown Amherst foundation doing business as the great. And Gabrielle. Is here. Good afternoon, everybody. Hi, good afternoon, Gabrielle. So I kind of forgot to apply for our live music and biddler's license. So hoping we can rectify that today. All right, thank you. So does anybody have any questions? Can we just do them one after another? Does anyone have any questions for the common pictures or the live entertainment license for the drake today? Yes. I think the only thing I would ask is just, has anything really changed in this substantial way since you last spoke to us about your plans there? I do not believe so. We just announced our, our website and ticketing just went live today. We're opening our soft opening is on April 26. And our grand opening is with Regina Carter on the 28th. We are 240 people standing 170 theater seated and 130 around 24 and 35th rounds. We will have two snacks that will be available free at all times. And we encourage people to shop and eat local before and after our productions and to also bring food in if they'd like to eat in the establishment. Great. Thank you. Oh, you're welcome. Anybody else have a question. Thank you. I will entertain a motion to approve the common pictures license application for the downtown MS foundation doing business. You want to do both of them at once? Yeah, sure. Why not? All right. I'll move to approve the common fictional license and the live entertainment license for the drake. You know. For the downtown Amherst foundation to business as Drake. All right. Thanks Doug. Is there a second? Thank you. Thank you. I have a question in a second. Any further discussion? Hearing none. We'll take a vote. Doug. Hi. Gaston. Hi. Dylan. Hi. Allie. Hi. And I vote I so five to zero and the common pictures license and the live entertainment license for the drake have been approved. So thank you so much for coming in Gabrielle. And best of luck with your. The two openings. Soft opening. Thank you. Very good. Have a great day. Bye bye. You too. Okay. So moving on to this is our. Special short term alcohol serving license. Which is the. Kyle Shaddock by 110 North pleasant street. Fives by Sigma. What is that? By Sigma Kappa fraternity. Applying for an alcohol license for April 9th. So Steve. Why don't you introduce this and then we'll hear from Mr. Shaddock. My understanding. My understanding is that this application is for a philanthropy concert that will be conducted in the back parking lot of. Phi Sigma Kappa fraternity on. North pleasant street by the Eisenberg school of business. And Mr. Shaddock. Are you able to hear us. Yeah, I can hear you guys. Can you hear me. Yeah. Why don't you go ahead and introduce the application. Yeah, absolutely. So what we're doing is we're having a nonprofit. Fundraising concert for the Bay State Children's Hospital. And the goal of this. Pacific philanthropy event is. This will attract a massive crowd and. This will be an event that gets us a lot of donations. It'll possibly be one of our biggest. Fundraising events that we've done a while. So our goal is to donate a thousand dollars to the state children's hospital. Okay. Thank you. So does anyone have any questions? We'd like to start off done. I'll start a couple of questions here. Just some logistics. I'm glad to hear you could join a charity event. That's, that's always a nice thing. I think it's a great way for you guys to, to partner with the community to, to help out a charitable organization. So I appreciate that and applaud you guys for doing that. So I'm looking at the, there's a picture of your parking lot where most of it will take place. And I, I did a quick peek to see where you're just a double check to make sure I understood where your, where your house is on campus. And so the question comes to mind for me is relative to where, granted, a lot of people will walk, but where's parking going to be for you guys, given that you're going to use up most of parking for the event. And, you know, there's not a lot of on street parking right there. There's not actually any. And then there's a few places like the Newman centers next door and find our centers nearby as well. But what was your order, your plans around parking and managing that a little bit? Absolutely. So first off, anyone who lives at the property with a car, there's a visitor slot that is free parking on the weekend. So all our cars will be moved there as well as no, there'll be no driving to the event itself just for, you know, safety reasons. And as far as reaching out to all like the school and the police and any neighboring places like Eisenberg or Newman center, we've made the appropriate. We've done all the appropriate emails and we've reached out to them, notify them in advance of the event. Great. Thank you for that. Thank you. Anyone guest on. Yeah, I have a, I think I have a lot of questions. Let me start with this. The question, will there be a cash bar and open bar? It said drink ticket slash other. Can you explain that? Yeah, we've changed this since then to a cash bar after further speaking with the company that's going to be sponsoring us and, you know, giving us a decent portion of our revenue. So it's going to be a cash bar and for everything, there's going to be a 21 over bracelet. Once you get your ID check from the ID checker. And if you have that certain bracelet, then you are allowed to go to the bar and purchase the drinks. Okay. So I'm going to ask about a carding at the bar a second time, but if I can just follow on this, you mentioned a sponsoring organization. I don't know if we have their, their name and, and what's the business arrangement that you have entered into with this sponsoring organization. So the company that we're sponsoring with is Noka. I don't know if you've ever heard of it. It's a seltzer water. It's a boozy seltzer water. And the reason we've made is we're going to pick up the amount that we would like to sell at their wholesaler and we'll sell as much as we can and anything that we cannot sell is going to be returned at the end of the day. And there is a certified tip bar set bartender there. Okay. Well, I'll let Steve comment on whether the, the buying and returning arrangement is compliant, but you didn't, what's the business deal? Like who, how does money exchange hands between you and Noka? It's going to be a cash bar. So basically it's just only cash and we're going to, we're going to have envelope and there's going to put all the money into envelope and at the end of the day, because we are already buying from their wholesaler. So anything that is sold at the event will be pro, our profit that we will donate to basic children's hospital. Okay. So I think we've got to slow it down here. Okay. So what money exchanges hands when you pick up the, the Noka? Our personal money. You pay, you pay, you pay for the wholesale price of the, of the Seltzer. Correct. We're fronting money in order to. Well, I'm very good. You know, I'm going to get to the fronting money because as far as my view right now, and I mean, I'd like to hear from, from the other board members is that in order for us to approve this, I don't, I mean, I guess is the Noka. Is this a Malt or is it spirits as far as licensing goes? Do we, do we have an answer on that? Is this the only thing that you're going to sell? It is the only thing we are going to be selling. And, and does anyone have a view on whether this is Malt or, or liquor? So Kyle, is this my understanding is, um, this is some kind of, it's like a spike Seltzer type of thing. It's, you know, 5% concentration or something like that. Yes. Correct. Okay. Yeah. I think that's a, all alcohol license would not be required. Just beer and wine would that would fall into that category. For me, that, that's pretty significant because if, if we were going to try to ran this through as a nonprofit applying for an all alcohol license, I think I'd be inclined to say that, um, the money that you spend on Noka, that's your contribution to the fundraiser. And a hundred percent of the revenues have to go to the charity in question. If it's going to be an all alcohol license, if you want to retract the all alcohol license and apply for a Malt license, then we don't need to get into those nonprofit complications. Yeah, absolutely. And any money that we do spend, anything we make in return will be going to the organization. Well, I don't know what making return is. I am. So you're not donating your money to buy the Noka. That's not your contribution to the charity. We are. So let me explain. So any money that we spend on Noka's, anything that we make back on the Noka's, all that profit will go towards the charity. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, so can, can we switch this to a Malt license in Steve? Yeah, the board could, could move to, to, um, to approve it as such. I mean, I'd rather not, I'd rather not, we've kind of talked about this issue before, but I'd rather, if we can avoid dealing with the question of what, what, how you do a charity, all alcohol event, if you're not a nonprofit 501 C3, then I'd say we delay that. And, and in that case, um, I guess the concerns that I have are ones that other people can follow up on, which is the carding and the, and the security perimeter and, and, and, and that kind of thing. So Steve, can we approve it as an all out as a wine and Malt instead? Or do we have to go through the process again? And that seems like that'll be, that's what they're looking for really. And that'll be, uh, easier as from a regulatory standpoint. Okay. All right. Great. Um, who had a question, Doug, to be raising your, Oh, Hallie and then Doug and then Dylan. I'm just going to ask if you have reached out to like any of the local bars to see if you could borrow the right, an ID scanner for the event. Or even hire somebody from them. You know, I misspoke or somebody. Yeah. So we have reached out to multiple bars, uh, such as the stackers, uh, bar. And we have two ID checkers that are going to be at the event, uh, at the entrance and checking IDs that way, as well as, you know, my, one of my friends is also friends of other bouncers from other bars. So he's also reaching out to them as well. Great. Thank you. I appreciate that answer. Yeah. I was just going to, just to follow up. Kyle may not have tracked this cause it's not his day to day. So the, the difference between the licenses is important for us because. An all alcohol licenses specifically only allowed to nonprofits. And so that's part of what Gaston was sort of pressing the point about how are you doing this? If we do it as a, what's called a month of malt and wine. Um, then it's, you know, anyone can take that, that license and it gets, we get less into the, the details of whether you're, you're perfectly in the alignment with the nonprofit status. So that's why we were talking about that a little bit. So we're just trying to keep things clear and clean and, and consistent with our other licenses we issued like this. So I just want to clarify that for you, but, um, I think I'll ask us a separate question. I'm looking at the sketch that, that you guys had on the, on the parking lot and I'm trying to get oriented a little bit to the, to the, to the, like where the entrance from North pleasant street is. Um, so you've got, uh, in the, in the picture I'm looking at it. You've got the no content, which is where the actual sort of sales are going to occur. I believe kind of the top, uh, you have the food truck on one side. You have the stage on one side. Um, and so the entrances is, is, is, uh, from the street is. Um, and, and, and you're going to be blocked off. So it's, it's, it's a walk-in event only. Um, is, is that entrance where you're sort of checking IDs, that sort of thing. Is that, is that going to be essentially at the sidewalk and North pleasant street or is it going, or just down, you know, that driveway, I should say, or is it on a different part of the, of your parking lot? I want to kind of get oriented to the picture versus where your building sets and where the street is. And that's where things, I think about, you know, if you have a fairly large crowd, which hopefully will from the standpoint of, of, uh, you know, doing a lot of fundraising and, you know, if the weather's nice, you know, you have good music, you should have a pretty successful event. Um, but I'm just thinking about kind of crowd issues and, and potentially, you know, a spillover into, uh, you know, joining the lawn space or actually into the street itself. And so just trying to think about that. And, and so can you orient us a little bit to the, to the picture, uh, and where the sort of, uh, North pleasant street entrance comes into that picture. Mary, and if I could, I can share my screen showing the map. Uh, you know, uh, the town's map. That can kind of overlay. All right. So this is the, the property in question. My understanding is that the stage would be on this roof. And then the parking lot is, is this here. Oh, okay. I know where that is. Yeah. So our plan is, well, if you come down the driveway over, uh, North pleasant street and you fear to the left where the, he was just circling over there. That is where we're going to have our fences and there's going to be a little entrance over there in the right side, like over there. Um, and then as far as the concern of overcrowding and things like that, we've reached out to a third party security company, which is going to be helping with that as well. We've reached out to the Amherst police department and the UMPD, the mass police department and notified them as well. And they are also willing to assist with any overcrowding. Thanks. Uh, Dylan, did you have a question? Um, well, yeah, I guess I'll ask who's this security company that you guys have hired that you said you were using. That's on the application. The company we're going to be using is MJ Norton. If I'm saying that correctly. Um, I guess my second question that I was in one of was, um, has the fraternity or yourself put on an organization like this before this would be a first. This is a first, but we're, we have done a lot of preparation for this and a lot of preparing and things like that. And we're hoping to, if this were to go well, do this in future years. Thanks. Who is next? Doug, did you have another question? Nope. Dylan. Yes. Yeah. So you said you, you've reached out to a couple of bars, including a stackers, um, about borrowing an ID, a checking machine for the event. Uh, do you know how, so you're, you're going to have the ideas have one right at the entrance and people come in and receive a bracelet and then we're going to have another one at the bar. What was kind of the idea of where those were going and how certain is it that you'll have access to those. So our plan was to have, uh, wristbands for the 21 and over. And once they get their ID checks, they'll have the wristbands. The ID checker will be the only one with those wristbands. So the only way that you can get a wristband is from that ID checker. Once you get your ID approved. And, uh, after talking to stackers, we do have the guys, uh, approved for this event. To you, you, it's, it's certain you will have access to, uh, an ID standard for me about. An ID checker. Like a bouncer. Got it. Okay. So you'll be using somebody who works over at stackers as. Right. Correct. Um, but there, there is no, no machine, anything like that. It's just going to be visual inspections of IDs. Correct. If we could reach out to them, if that would make everyone more comfortable. Uh, but I, as of right now we currently have two, maybe three bouncers locked down for ID inspection, which this is something they do on the regular. And, uh, there are, you know, very experienced with this type of ID checking. So. Yes. The other questions. Yeah. Yeah. So I think, you know, this, this could be great to be able to do an event like this. It would also, um, you know, be really unfortunate if, if this event doesn't go well and, and we, uh, you know, you know, you know, you know, we need to kind of do our job here. I guess, uh, it would, I'd like to, uh, make any approval here subject to getting in writing that, um, the university police department is, has reviewed this. They're okay with 450 people there. And, um, the Amherst police department. I take it that that they've signed off on 450 people. Steve. I don't know if I can answer that question, but it's hard to answer that question. I don't know if I can answer that question to them, but this property is outside the jurisdiction of UMPD. Well, okay. So I mean that, that was my, my next question is, what are your, what are your, I mean, we've had some pretty terrible concert tragedies in the last year. Um, what is the, what is the plan for, uh, you know, worst case scenario? What's the chain of command. Um, what, what, what have you already, what's the plan for that? Um, I don't know if it would be, if it's an incident where it happened to be someone from the brotherhood to intervene, you know, throughout the issue as themselves. That would be step one. Step two would be, you know, the advisor is going to be there whole time. The advisor is also going to assist. We have our, you know, our security company who can help out of any intervention or situation that, uh, may be occurring. And the worst case scenario is we pull the plug, cancel the event. And, uh, we would call the proper authorities, uh, if that were to be done. Well, those are the most dangerous moments. A lot of people leaving at once. Um, so I, I mean, I, uh, I'm not sure if, if everyone else is satisfied. I guess one thing I'll say is that if your brother, the brotherhood, the brothers who are the first line of defense should not be drinking if they're your first line of defense. If, if you're, if they're not your first line of defense, that's fine. But if you're going to count on whoever you're counting on for a first line of defense shouldn't be drinking that day. I don't know if you have a response to that. Yeah. So we do have a risk management team assembled already of 25 sober brothers who are willing to observe the event and, you know, watch the perimeter and make sure the event goes as smoothly as possible. And not drink. Correct. They will be sober. Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Don, did you have a question? Yeah, just a little follow-up, just talking about those 25. I mean, are they going to be physically stationed at the perimeter around your fencing and that sort of stuff? Cause I think again. You know, concern. You know, it's, it's, it's because it's a kind of one time thing. And again, it's, you know, stuff can get out of hand in a hurry. You know, our job is to think about worst case scenarios. So that's why we sort of press these points. We're open that none of this happens other than a great event with a lot of fun. And so, you know, you know, think about, you know, all the horrible things that might, might go on and try to keep that in your, in your mind a little bit. But, um, So thinking about the perimeter and it's going to be, I assume temporary fencing and are the 25 that you've, you've identified, are they going to be essentially stationed around that perimeter? Are they going to be on the move? Or, you know, what's your, what's your sort of strategy there? I think that, or intermingled amongst the crowd a little bit too. But I think your, your control of perimeter is going to be something that somebody will try to sneak in. Um, and then also you're going to have people, they're going to, you know, have a buddy who's 21 is going to have a wristband and then it's going to be trying to, you know, sort of pass stuff off. And, and I think that key thing there is you won't probably be able to prevent 100% of that, but it's how do you intercede and how do you, uh, make sure people aren't getting over served, especially ones that aren't going up to the, to the line and getting it, you know? Um, so I think, you know, those are a couple of things I think about it's, you know, perimeter control people sneaking in that aren't really, you know, participating in the way that you want them to. Um, and then also just as you observed, you know, just people, whether they have wristbands or not, if people are intoxicated in some way, you know, you're, are you able to, uh, intercede it early before it gets out of hand and, and try to prevent any really major, major issues. So I'm curious your thoughts on that. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, like you said, the last, first off, uh, we do not want any fence hoppers or anything like that. Cause a way we are making, uh, profit for the donations is by, you know, general admission price. So that's something we're already been talking about and looking out for. We're going to have, uh, as long as the security company will have a few brothers stationed around the perimeter, watch out for fence hoppers. Everyone will have the other half of the team, uh, intermingling into the crowd and watching out for, you know, anyone too intoxicated or things like that, or any, any sort of risk scenario. Great. Thank you. Gaston. Two more quick questions. Just, uh, can you tell us what is the, what is the entrance fee and what is the drink markup? So we have two sources of revenue for the entrance. It's either you can charge or you can pay $10 for the admission or we are sponsored by another app. This app is called be real to social media app. And for every new person that we recruit with this app, the company is going to be sending us $10 our way for our donations. So they can either sign up with the be real app, uh, within a certain timeframe and, uh, prove to us that they have signed up for it. We put down their username and, uh, so that's one of the two ways we'll be making revenue, uh, based on the entrance. And the per, the per drink, um, that you pay for these drinks and how much are you selling them for? Uh, as of right now, we're planning on the three to $4 range, but, uh, we are open to, uh, we're still in a good shape. What does it cost you per drink? We're going to be, it's going to be $1.50 for us per can. And we're wanting to make at least 100% profit back on that. Yeah. Okay. Um, yeah. I mean, it seems that, you know, uh, I think the, the board would probably favor a higher price. Um, uh, then, then like $3. I think we'd probably favor more like for $4 or something to reduce the, you know, um, I mean, three drinks for $10 is a little too fast. Um, uh, so I, I think that, um, I don't know if others feel the same way that a higher price is a better, uh, better for this event. Um, the only other thing I wanted to say ask, I mean, if the police had come, I would ask them, but, um, how many times have you had, uh, a visit from the police this last year to the house? We've only had one visit from police. And that was because of an incident, not, uh, that we, an incident that we were not involved in. And as far as the, uh, marking up the price, we're easily open to setting it to $4, even $5. Done. I would suggest five just cause a lot less, uh, change to be made. You want to deal with the singles, man. They're going to be, they're going to be hassle. No, it's five dollars. Five dollars it is. Okay. Great. Um, and you get questions from anyone else. At the moment, Dylan, go ahead. You mentioned, uh, an advisor is going to be there. This is a, uh, advisor faculty UMass. Uh, the advisor of our fraternity will be present. Got it. Edward already. Anybody else have another question or I just want to do a quick recap. So you have tips certified servers. They're 25 sober fraternity brothers plus the advisor. Um, the embers police have been notified and have signed off in the event. You've got, is it three bouncers or four from the town? As of right now it is three, uh, maybe getting four as well. Okay. And then you have this private security company. So what are they, how are you working? Like, what do they look like? Do you have more people from them? On the, on site or. So their main job would be crowd control, you know, making sure everything in the crowd is, you know, going as smoothly as possible. As smoothly as possible. How many of them are there? Do you know yet? Or there are, they definitely said we get three to four. So I'm hoping for. And their crowd control. Yep. Um, all right. And then we're. Is there anything else? Anyone have any other questions or comments? And we have a new price. I would just love to have with our file. Um, the, you know, the note from the university police saying they're okay with this. Understanding that it's not in their kind of geographic jurisdiction, but it's, they're obviously going to deal with the overflow that may happen. And, uh, and then to have the, the advisor kind of name and phone number in our, in our kind of file would also be good. Okay. That's great. I agree. Any other questions? I have a couple of questions. Yeah, sure. Go ahead. Um, so who will actually be serving the drinks? To have certified bartenders will be serving the drinks. So will those be your members of the people you're hiring? Those, they are being sent by the company themselves to work the event. Okay. So how many of them. Two to three, I am assuming. Okay. Um, and where will the alcohol be stored? Because if you're expecting 450 people, everybody gets two drinks. That's probably about 800. And then that's going to be what, like 30 cases with those be stored in the event area or. So they're setting up a whole 10, but have their own, you know, little setup. They have 10 and coolers and things like that, that they all have planned for that. Okay. Um, have you considered having more than one exit and possibly moving the exit away from the building because in some kind of worst case scenario, as Gaston said, often the, um, the most dangerous part is some kind of sudden evacuation. Um, and, um, you know, 450 people trying to get out of, you know, how wide is the entrance going to be? 10 feet. 10 feet. I mean, yeah, that's still going to be kind of tight if anybody is kind of scrambling. Um, is there any consideration for like an emergency exit? And I would also suggest moving that entrance and exit away from the building, in some case, you know, God forbid the emergency exit is going to be, um, it's going to be, um, it's going to be, um, it's going to be, um, it's going to be, um, it's going to be, um, it's going to be getting hitched on fire. It wouldn't be much used to people. Absolutely. Uh, so that's something we talked about last night and making a emergency exit as well as, uh, you're talking about the building we've let made it. So there's going to be no access to the building at all during the event. Um, to just prevent. Safety incidents. Yeah. Um, I would still suggest that the, um, the entrance be moved away because even if it's just your house, it's not going to be usable and everybody would be trapped by the fences. Yeah. No worries. We can definitely move the entrance. Okay. Um, and what kind of fencing will be used? Uh, it's going to be a bike rack fencing. If. Okay. Um, what if you thought about, um, you know, I can, I can envision people sitting right outside of the, uh, the fences and join the concert for free. Um, what's your plan to handle that? Yeah. Um, I think it's going to be a great idea to have a security company as well as also notifying, uh, you know, UMass police department. Uh, make sure anyone standing at Eisenberg circle or anything like that. They're not. You know, getting the benefits of, you know, what we're trying to do, uh, for, you know, no admission price. Okay. Um, and I understand you'll have two port of bodies. Yeah. Correct. Where will those be located? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Okay. Um, and I would also suggest that you set up some kind of hydration station. Um, some place where people can get water. Um, you know, this time of year, hopefully it could be a nice day and, you know, people will be dancing and drinking. And, um, I think that'll be really important to have a high supply of, um, water. Um, water is not, you know, water is not being generated or things like that, uh, just, you know, from a risk standpoint as well. This is a good idea to have, you know, 3 water for all. How would you be handling that? So we're going to put one person from the risk management team is going to be with all the waters all the time. So they're going to be dispersing water if needed. Okay. So just bottle of water. Yeah. Just water, water. Okay. One for one, I mean, or, or, you know, right, is a one for one ratio is that too much water, it doesn't. I mean, any water that we don't end up using. We'll just drink ourselves, but a one to one ratio is good in that therefore. And I think maybe Doug was about to ask about food. It's I mean, yeah, food food is on our mind. That's part of our policy to encourage safe drinking is to make sure there's food around. It's not a legal necessity with a one day license, but it seems like a nice to have. I don't know how the other board members feel. Oh, I think so too. But there are there are food trucks. Is that the truck trucks we have once in a truck and we have, you know, some sort of fried dough truck as well. Okay. Okay. And do you think the the parking area will be sufficient to support to food trucks this this tent and 450 people I mean it does look like it might be a little tight to me. So I'm confident we're going to have enough space for it and also part of the property line. We do have access to a little bit of the grass so if needed we will access that area as well. Okay. Any questions, any other questions. I mean my, you know, I, I'm inclined to go along with this. But Kyle, I mean, you know when business owners come to us, their personal reputation is on the line. So I'm not going to do a move on. But, you know, for better for worse, the future of fraternity events like this are kind of depending on how you guys do. Yeah. Absolutely and something that we do want and something I said in the meeting to chief police was that we do want this event to be a positive image for Greek life, despite you know all the negative attributes have been around Greek like recently so we're hoping that this event is fun for you know, it's for a good cause. It's going to be food dancing. It should be a great event for all. Thank you. Anything else, any more questions or comments. Dylan, if you're raising your hand, I can't see you. Oh, yes. Yeah, I guess my question is really going to be for the board here of. I know, do we think we want to mandate a police detail or do we think where we're okay with the security as it is. I could kind of go either way on it. I just think, you know, three hours mandatory over time. That's money that's not now going to charity, we mandate it, but security event I think is definitely our first priority. So what is the, was the rest of the board think about that. I mean, I feel as if Chief Livingston has signed off on it without that recommendation saying it's optional. I'm hoping the police department are aware of what's going on and know to probably circle around and check things out. I may intervene real quickly. So we did Chief Livingston also said that the supervisor, you know, every hour will be checking in with us and talking to the people like myself and the rest of my board, running the event and making sure you know everything's going smoothly things like that so we so yes you will be coming around frequently. So how are we doing ready to go ahead. Any questions. If not, then I'll entertain a motion and so how are we going to do this because it needs to be a wine and malt license. And it needs to be contingent on getting the note from the university police saying they've signed off on it and the name and number of the fraternity advisor. That works for me personally. Just a question Kyle is this advisor is this an alumni or is this a UMass employee or This is an alumni who also is now the advisor and was a past president as well. Okay. But he lives in Amherst. He does not live in Amherst but for the whole duration of the event, he will be out the property. Okay. So what about just how we how we want to go about getting feedback from UMass police do want it to be that they they sign off on it or that we we give them an opportunity to object, because if we don't. I don't know how responsive they are I could potentially see. There's just a case where I don't know maybe they don't get a response in time by Saturday for whatever reason and are they not allowed to go forward with the event if they don't hear back from UMass police. They said they already did I mean you already have the approval is that right Kyle. We have a piece of paper already you can send. We have the English police and we've got the UMass police department and one thing Sally was in the meeting with you know the chief police and she's suggested that we do all you know reaching out to the US police department and honestly I don't really see a reason why they would say no to to this honestly, especially with Sally's recommendation. I have, I have no worry about necessarily them saying no but if we're just typically if they have to say yes I just, just a minor concern that if somebody drags their feet on it gets lost in the shuffle whatever a couple days they don't hear a response. By Saturday does that mean they can't, they can't go forward because they didn't get a specific approval. Well I think they don't have UMass police doesn't have jurisdiction there right so they don't do they need they don't need their approval is that correct. No, they don't know. No. And maybe you can clarify who Sally is for the board cow. Yeah, yeah, she is part of the dean of student conduct and just the dean. So she was president of the staff meeting last week discussing this. Okay, but it would be nice to have know that the UMass police are informed and say it's kind of okay and I think that's what we wanted the right guest on this with one of the letter for. You know, Mr. Shack represented that he'd gotten a bunch of sign offs at the beginning of the phone call and, and I just feel like we owe it to the community to make sure that we know that those are exists that's, that's where I'm coming from. All right. And Steve we have a note from the Amherst police is that right. Yes, the chief sits in the email which I included. So we can attach that in the file. And then hopefully we'd like to get something from the university police. Maybe just a quick email or something. Anything else. Anybody. No. I will entertain a motion. Quick question for us actually go ahead if you want. When we get to, you know, who would you want the UMass police to email. That can go to me. Yeah. You can also send me just to revise site plan once you've kind of moved the exit around and. Yeah, we'll do. Thank you. Thank you today. Indeed, that's, that's something that the UMass police department could be helpful on would be to comment on the site plan. It would seem to me that that's an area they could be helpful. All right. Anything else. Mr. Jack anything from you. Any other questions. No, not at this time. Thank you. Okay. Anybody else. So I guess I'm looking for a motion for wine and malt. License Doug, do you want to take, take it away? I'll take it. I'll take it away. I'll move to approve a short term wine and malt license for. The five Sigma Kappa fraternity for an event on four nine. 22 conting upon requirements specified in this meeting, namely acknowledgement from UMass police. And review, you know, of the, of the event by them. And the additional information that we need relative to the site plan. And. The name and phone number for the advisor. All of the communicated to Steve McCarty or a liaison. Thank you Doug. Is there a second. I would just suggest the licenses issued to Kyle. an individual, not the fraternity collectively. Oh, okay. Oh, sorry. I'll take that as a friendly amendment. Okay. All right. Thank you. Is there a second? Second. Thank you, Dylan. We've had a motion and a second. Is there any further discussion? Anything else? Okay. Hearing none, I'll take a vote. Gaston. Aye. Dunn. Aye. Hallie. Aye. Dylan. Aye. And I vote aye. That is five to zero. The short term license has been approved. And thank you for coming in, Mr. Shaddick. And best of luck with your event. Thank you guys so much. Appreciate the help. Good luck. Love. Thank you. Okay. So next on the agenda, discussion items, adult use marijuana, dunk. What is it? Just quick update. I was going to try to revise or go back through the regulations that I put together. I did not get a chance to do that. I did look however, briefly at what might be involved in creating the bylaw that would establish the license. I found an example in our existing bylaw for the, what was it, for the pawnbroker license, which is very brief. It only has about five points to it. So I think we can use something as simple as that to get it established. So, you know, I'll try to craft that together and run it by Steve in our town council with the council council. So we can get that continued moving forward as we go along here. But you know, not a lot of update, but a little bit. Thank you. Super. Thanks, Doug. Any questions for Doug? Not. Okay. Thanks again. So what next? Lunch cart regulations. All right. So I attended the TSO meeting last week and they had, this came up on their agenda. They had questions about just what was going on and I explained the background of what happened with the change in government and the approval over the town way being split. And after some discussion, they voted in favor of sending it onto the town council. It is in the town council's consent agenda for the meeting tonight. And hopefully that will go through and then we will have regulation over, we will be able to license lunch carts and also have jurisdiction over not only the sidewalk part but the parking spaces in the street. So that's coming up. And that's all I have for this week. All right. Any questions? Nope. Okay. Guidelines, regulations for liquor license decisions. So who's that? Yeah. We had left this off and please go ahead, Hallie. If you disagree, we left this off where I was going to get in touch with the attorney about your draft. So unfortunately I was out with the flu last week and what little working time I did have was dedicated to this. So I didn't get a chance to connect with him but that's on my agenda for this week and I'll reach out to you, Hallie, and the board to let you know how that goes. Sounds great. For the delay. All right. Not a problem. Thanks, Steve and thanks, Hallie. Any questions on that? If not, license fee comparison. How was that going? It's an on hold. Okay. Okay. Should we take it off until further notice? No, I don't mind the three seconds of shame every two weeks. Along with the rest of it. No, I'm not. Don't worry. We got to get Dylan something that he's not speaking up with. I was going to say you can judge you all. He's like, private clubs, baby. I'm done. I got it done. Come on. Where is it? Okay. All right. And a review of minutes. Do we have minutes today? I wouldn't want to leave our valiant board members here feeling the only ones ashamed. So I also do not have any minutes. You do not have any minutes. All right. So no one has any questions about the minutes that are not there. Okay. Well, thanks. So going on topics, not reasonably anticipated 48 hours prior to the meeting. Are there any topics? And anyone questions? Comments? I'm going to ask the one I'm going to ask every week now till it changes. When are we done being virtual, Steve? Any word? Any updates? No word. No updates. Okay. All right. Can you confirm next meeting date and time please? Is it? Oh yeah. I was going to ask. The 26th at five. Yes. Are we wedded? That's a Tuesday, right? That's the thing I did have. So is everyone really hell bent on five o'clock or can we go to six? Is that okay? Dylan, is that going to be fine with me? Is that all right? Does that mess up? Is there anyone not totally thrilled or would that be all right? It's okay. I have to get to a violin. I have to get my daughter to a violin lesson. All right. Six would just be easier. Okay. Is that okay, Steve? Sorry to move the facts. No, that's fine. All right, thanks. The date again is the 26th? The 26th, because of the holiday on the 18th or the 17th. Okay. And so the 26th at six p.m. Thank you. And we will have the cousins to provisions, liquor license transfer that day. Oh, okay. Something we'll show. Will that be a new location for them too or are they just taking the... I believe they're just taking the license. Okay. Anything else? Any more topics? No? Okay. And we have a meeting date. And so I will entertain a motion to adjourn. So moved. There's a motion. Is there a second? Second. Thank you, Dylan. I guess there's no further discussion and we'll take a vote. Gaston? Aye. Dunn? Aye. Dylan? Aye. Kelly? Aye. And aye, five to zero. We are adjourned at 547 and we'll see everybody on the 26th at six p.m. Sounds great. Thanks again. Bye. Thank you, Steve. Bye. Thank you all. I appreciate it.