 earlier today. Ladies and gentlemen, a member of the FanDuel family, number two overall in the FedEx standings as we go in to playoffs happening in the biggest time to be a golfer and golf fan is right around the corner. Ladies and gentlemen, legend American, Jordan Spence. What's up, man? Nothing. How are y'all doing? Hey, just hanging out. Congrats on the FanDuel relationship. What do you got cooking over there? What do you got going on? We're doing, we did a little shooting. Yeah, we're out at Hamilton Farms and just kind of starting out the relationship, doing some stuff just to get started and should be kind of fun. I think the commercial will be pretty cool when it gets going too. Nice. Did you have to do some acting in there? Do you have any, do you do anything sweet or is it just golfing? Yeah, no, it's, yeah, there was some acting. It's more, it's more kind of like some, yeah, some like cockiness acting, like looking at the camera while you putt, that kind of stuff, not like normal swings. Just, I think they're going to try and get creative with it. Okay, so let's talk about that because I think you were the one to introduce this to my life and I might be wrong thinking here, but whenever Jordan Spieth came and took over the world, all right, with his math teacher guy. Oh no! Just built something over here, but we'll get to that later. You, I think you were the guy who looked at the hole inside like five feet or something like that, whatever you were, you didn't even look at the ball. Was that you? Yeah, yeah, that was me. You do that? Well, I try. I can never do it, Jordan. I don't know how, I don't know how, do you still do that? Yeah, sometimes. It just kind of depends. It's kind of a feeler for me. I did it, I did it because it, if I, I normally hit it where I was looking. So if I looked at the front edge of the hole in the center of the hole or if it was like a right edge putt, I'd normally, it took kind of the mechanics out of it. So it was something for me that works, works under pressure sometimes. How often do you change your swing or mindset going in? For instance, I'll just give you my thing. Whenever I was doing my best punting in the NFL, which is similar to golf, you have to do it so much more often. And it's such a smaller, you know, it's like this. I don't know how you guys make contact on that regular of a basis, but every game I was almost, like there was a new thing I was right before the game thinking about, like, okay, I'm going to hold on to it a little bit longer here. I'm going to turn it this way. Swing needs to go straight through. I was always thinking about my swing and what I was doing. And this is when I think everybody was looking up at me at this point too. And I was still trying to continue to change it. I never rested on anything. Have you had to change your swing or your mindset or anything like that through this career? Have you stuck with the same one? And it's just kind of come and gone at different times of your career? Yeah, I think what you, you kind of swing your swing and you try and get, you try and get precise and get outwardly focused. Like you would, you could probably relate if you're, if you're kind of in the zone, you're more kind of just looking at where you want that ball to land. Oh yeah. How you want it to spin there. You kind of visualize how it's coming off your foot. For us, if we could be outwardly focused, it's great. But sometimes, you know, things get off and you got to do some corrections. I kind of went into a couple years where I got into some bad habits. So I almost try to go back, look back at what I did well, why I did it well, and then improve on that. All right. You know, where was I kind of making mistakes there? How, how can I think about it to where over the next 15, 20 years, I can just do minor adjustments staying outwardly focused, kind of practicing like I'm playing versus focusing on mechanics, but still, you know, still trying to dial those in as best you can. So yeah, I mean, it's, it's interesting to hear you say like, hold on to it just a little bit longer. It kind of gets you said a little better or whatever it's it. It is similar, right? Because both of them can be kind of mechanical, but also mental things to do just as any kicker. But it's, it's kind of that kind of teeter-totter game you play with mechanics to try and really mostly just stay focused on visualizing that shot or that punt where you want it to land. And then the good news for us is if we don't hit a good one, we don't have to worry about having to go hit somebody afterwards. That was something you had to worry about if it was returnable. Yeah. I mean, you guys got a much different world to have to deal with. If you don't hit one well, you got to go deal with old Mr. Tree or some water or anything like that that you have in your world. Jordan, obviously everybody saw you come in a superstar and we were so pumped, you know, hey, we got the guy. You were the youngest champion, I think at a multitude of places. You had massive success. You were going to be like the guy. Now you're back here. Number two FedEx standings going into playoff weekend. Got the Ryder Cup come. How does it feel to be back at like your best game? And was there moments where you hated golf? Was there ever a moment where you hated golf? And you were like, why is this happening? Why? Why? I am a great golfer. We all know I'm a great golfer. What the fuck is going on? Was there ever those moments? And how does it feel to be, you know, on the other side of that? That's not an easy battle. Congrats on getting through it. Yeah, I think, I think it was kind of word for word how you just said it sometimes. There were definitely times where I was like, what is happening right now? But then you got to get to the bottom of what exactly it was. And I feel good. Yeah, I feel really good right now. I feel in a good place. I feel like I'm improving. But the fun part about it is I actually feel like I'm not, I'm probably like, you know, 50 to 75% back to where I want to be. So I actually feel like there's a lot of upside to get to the freedom and comfort level through my swing, my stroke. I've had, you know, some, some, I've had a good year this year, but it was one where I look back and I'm like, man, I really should have won three, four, five times in the positions I was in. So how do I make that to where that's the case next year? How do we tighten things up a bit more? So I'm actually in that I'm not in the man, I'm really content phase. I feel good, but I feel like there's quite a bit of room for improvement, which I think is probably the best place to feel, you know? Yeah. You were fiery on the course. I think that's why I loved you so much because all the golfers for so long. And I think Tiger changed it a little bit, but I like when you have an obvious competitive athlete out there, like somebody who wants to win. Like I understand top 10 is great, top five. But whenever you get mad and pissed off about like, I love it. I absolutely love it. Cause that's my exact reactions. You just can't really hear me because I'm not mic'd up in their 70,000 people around. But if I don't do my job well, after all the work that I put in, I'm pissed. Like I am actually furious. Like, Hey, come on on myself there. Have you had to learn to be nicer to yourself in rounds? Have people talked to you about, Hey, you can't be as mad as you are? Or is it just kind of you evolving as a human? I think I'm kind of lucky in that regard where actually sometimes the more pissed off I get, I actually bounce back a little bit quicker. Yeah. Cause you don't want to feel that way again. That's how I am. Like, I'm going to get mad. I may still be walking down the next hole being like, man, what the fuck was that shot? And then Michael will be like, dude, you got to let it go. I'm like, dude, I promise it's not going into this next shot. I'm just pissed off that I left that stroke out there. Now I'm going to go get it back, you know, that kind of thing. So some guys are like that. Some guys, it's better to just throw it all out. But I kind of like the, it's just always been good for me. The only problem is, you know, now that there's a microphone next to you everywhere you are, we get fine easily if we really say what we want to say. So we got to kind of dial it back a little bit as much as you probably would rather hear the, you know, the unedited version. It gets pretty bad after an entire season of saying what you want to say. Hey, Jordan, grab one of those, you know, whatever the, what are those things called? Grab on those boom mics and be like, hey, that was a bad fucking shot. All right, I know it, you know, get out of my face. Dude, that is, because you guys, it is very intimate with the game, the way the game is covered. I mean, we're starting, and I think they're putting more mics in there, which is good because as a fan getting to learn about how and why you and Michael are having a conversation, you're having, oh, it's this far. It's that far. Oh, we're hitting it this well. That relationship has been awesome for us to watch. And I think the mics are a massive part of that. So it's good for golf, obviously, terrible for your pocket book if you have any sense of competitive edge at all. But we appreciate it. You and your caddy, I just, I alluded to it earlier there. And I didn't know if it was right or not, because it is, we're recording this on Monday, it's an early morning, just got out of a bachelor party weekend with my brother, but he was your math teacher. He was your teacher. He was your math teacher. Is that how that whole play was in mind? He just taught, he taught sixth grade math up in Seattle. And I met him through Justin Thomas, a friend of mine. And he just jumped on board because I didn't have any status. I told him I'd pay his teacher's salary and his expenses the first year if he wanted to quit teaching. And he came on the bag. So now I wish I still paid his teacher's salary. See, now the relationship with the caddy has been something that has obviously come into conversation here late. But is that something that happens not only on the course, is he at practice with you as well? He has to kind of know everything you're doing, doesn't he? Or is it? I think, you know, it changes. Some guys use their caddy for swing stuff. They get involved with their coaches and all that. Michael's not that way. He's more, he's more of a situational guy. He reads, reads kind of, he's really calm under pressure. You know, he's not someone where I'm like, Hey man, you know, where's that position on that swing look on the range? He's there, you know, Monday through Sunday of a tournament week, but on off weeks, he lives back in Seattle. So he's home with his family. And then we get in and he's just really good at putting that time in, getting all the, you know, the pin locations where you can and can't miss stuff that, you know, I try and get down during practice rounds, but, you know, we're trying to, we're trying to get our game going. And he's, he's got all that other information. Jordan, can you do this? Go through your legs. Not in my back swing. What are you talking? I mean, that's so rude. Well, I was about to, you didn't get to see it. I'll do it next time. Go ahead, Ty. Jordan, with it being a rider cup here, obviously, you have to like stay dialed in with the playoffs coming up and everything. But is that something that you're kind of thinking about in like the back of your head? Cause obviously, like we've watched it the last couple of years. Yeah, there's nothing better. USA. That's huge. The, uh, to be honest, you know, I've got the three playoff events. We got a couple of weeks off in the rider cup. I'd rather play better at the rider cup than in the tour championship. It's the best man. I mean, we never get team sports. So to be able to have team sports and then the idea that you could have that, you know, when you win a championship and team sports, you get your parade, right? Well, for us, that's the Sunday afternoon after winning a rider cup on US soil where everyone sticks around and you get to, you get to kind of party with everybody. That's, that's our parade. That's, that's what we look forward to. And it's, it's going to be, it's going to be hard, but our teams, our team this year looks stacked. Um, we've, we've, we looked that way in the last one in Paris and we didn't win. Um, I think we'll kind of go on, go in with an underdog mentality, even though we've had such massive talent on the US side, I think we kind of need to go in with that kind of fire in our ass and, um, you know, go in firing, I mean, early, early and often. Yeah. Hey, all the way, all by a good early off and fire. I mean, it's, there's no, there's no breaks coming up in these next six weeks. We look at the rider cup as a major championship in our mind and, and try and peak for it. You got it. Go ahead. Jordan. I mean, I think personally a good friend of yours, Uncle Phil Mickelson, should potentially be a captain's pick for that rider cup. He's got a bunch of experience. Uh, you could take his money during the practice rounds. And what do you think about, you know, Phil maybe being a captain's pick for that? Well, you know, he won the PGA championship. The PGA of America runs the rider cup. It's, um, he obviously, uh, he won one of the four biggest tournaments of the year. So I think it's going to be, I'm glad I don't have to make these decisions because of how stacked the team is. He's a little bit further down on the list. I know that, but, uh, I'm not jealous of Steve Stricker and the assistants. I know they'll lean on us quite a bit. Um, but I mean, I'm going to have to make that team myself prior to, to being able to have much impact in that. But you're saying that, Phil's a man. Hey, I still got to get on the team. So let's start handing out spots anywhere else. Last question here from the boys. Can't thank you enough for joining us. Jordan, go ahead. Connor. Yeah, Jordan. One of the things that around golf right now that I love and I think everyone does is the match. Have you reached out yet to Steph Curry to play, maybe the next one, get, uh, Bryson and Rogers try and go for their crown or no? I, we haven't yet, but I'm certainly open to it. Uh, that last one looked amazing. Where was a big sky, Montana? You get guys just, you know, at 8,000 feet, just sending balls up in the air. They never come out of the sky. Um, yeah, I'm not sure. I mean, I also, you know, it'd be kind of fun to actually go out and talk shit and announce it, like be the on course guy too. If I didn't, you know, that might even be more fun than playing in it. Um, but I guess Pat would probably be better at doing that. They won't have me there, Jordan. That is. I would be excited to see you out there though. Uh, when you see that, is there any courses that like, have you played that course? I just assume you're, I went there in the summertime with my dad and brother. We actually went fly fishing up there, but I never, I didn't play any golf. Um, but we, we went on a little fishing trip like a few years ago, but it, yeah, it looked amazing. What are you, just super outdoors guy? You fly fish? No, I, this, I hadn't gone on a fishing trip before or since, but uh, a big Texas guy. I was in that area. Oh, that's awesome. I thought you were going to be the fly fishing golfer and I said, it was like, yeah, I just heard it was fun. Turns out, a lot of similarities. Yeah, a lot of similarities in the motion. No, I have no idea. I got, I spent more time untangling my line than I did catching. That's what I was saying. Yeah. Cause I think there's a lot of, yeah, there's a lot of shit that happens with that. Uh, can't that do it? How to be here and watch them sit in the water. Yeah. Watch them. Thanks for joining us. Congrats on the fan duel deal. Excited. You're representing the number one sports book in America.