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I know it's a very popular like Not like a mass film, but like I know a lot of people really really like this film And so I remember getting a bunch of messages about it how people it was a very different film for Indian cinema. Yeah, as well. But anyways, so it's a hundred and four. We came out in 2018 if you haven't watched it go watch it We saw what we see it Netflix. Was it Netflix or is it Amazon? It was one of Amazon was Amazon. It was Amazon. It was Amazon. Yeah, it's on Amazon directed by Shoojit sircar directed pink and Picoo Yeah, and Vicki donor. Yeah, which we haven't seen yet, but we see those other ones and then obviously starring Say his name Varen Dowan and Benita Sandu, which I understand this was their debut performance this both of them Now I could be wrong. I don't think my homework because we've done No, his is caporn sums, right? We saw him there. Well, that's where we saw him But as far as his very first film, this was it. I Thought it was like as a lead Because there's assistant director, so it's not it's first, but I maybe it's the first lead I don't know but it's definitely not as first. All right. Where did I see it that said that? I think it was on Wikipedia, which of course everything there is true. Okay, and also am I incorrect? This is not the same guy from Oh, it's not you look with you. That guy looks similar At least I need to be is not saying I know he's in Badlapur, which is with Nawaz as well I know a lot of people enjoyed that one. We haven't seen that one yet But yes, starting those two directed by a surjit surjit, right? I believe so I believe that's the proper denunciation for good surjit Let me see the spelling against we pronounce a prayer Sanjit should it should it should it anyways should you should it sir car Rick your initial thoughts, please It's a mixed bag for me that ultimately lands on there was less than I liked than I liked I think the best thing about the film was the concept the story and the fact that it is it is different But there were aspects of it that are admittedly Some of it is purely subjective on my part of what I particularly wanted, which is not their fault They're not supposed to you know, they don't have to make the film with me in mind Yeah, but for me kind of what I was anticipating expecting based on what the trailer showed me And then some other aspects of the script that really troubled me That's probably my biggest thing the bright side of this was I think that I would the story I think is Absolutely fantastic and has the capacity to be Incredible There were some cinematography things that were just straight out beautiful But ultimately for me if someone were to say should I watch October my my take on that would be you might like it There was more I disliked about it than like that's my that's my takeaway. Okay, and we'll get into that I actually enjoyed this film because it was very different There was I there was a bunch of stuff that going through it. I was like what is going on. Yeah, why is this happening? Right? and then it Surprised me in multiple aspects and then there's obviously a whole bunch of I don't know if you want to call them philosophical messages in the whole thing about Like a lost death Existential crises and and how obviously Very different this situation be if it wasn't an American situation as opposed to Indian as well So I actually quite enjoyed this film. I enjoyed the the performances him. He was very very subtle And I've been told like this is like his best that he's ever done in terms of not like he was like I know was or anything, but I thought he did a a good job her I mean for a little bit got to see of her that was yeah, that She wasn't just in the coma state. Yeah, even though that's that can be done wrong Yes, a coma can be done wrong like like people like you see them moving when they're supposed to be in a Vegetable I noticed something as simple as and it may have been her choice It may have been the director But something as simple as the fact that when they were when the camera was on her eyes She was ensuring that she wasn't moving her eyes behind her eyelids. You know that something that simple It does it it's not nearly as difficult as say my left foot that kind of a challenge Or like what Kalki had to do and my straw doesn't even remotely come close to that But it is still it is still very a challenging. Yeah, no, it's it's it's not I think it's like hard, but it's also like you can't just throw it out like you know She's just having to sit there. No, she's still having to show stuff with her eyes and making sure She doesn't look like she's aware right when she's actually an aware person, right, right, right? And so I thought she did why I enjoyed the direction and the fact that it just there was so many moments that just kind of caught me off guard that And it ended I don't want to say differently than I thought it would but it I didn't expect I was expecting the happier ending. Oh, really? Yeah, I was oh, I was expecting her to die I liked that. Yeah, I'm sure you did I Expected from the get-go. I'm like from the early part of the film like yeah They're gonna break our heart. It's only because I thought that you know Since we've seen a bunch of Indian cinema that a bunch of it likes to end on the happy note Yeah, and so and we've seen I forget which film it was but like where they get miraculously healed by What was it that that film? What was that film with the miraculous like miraculous healing? Yeah, what was it? something oh Well, like a light can't I can't remember what it was a docent had a miraculous healing, but he was never really dead. No No, but yeah, so I this director I feel the subject likes to do unique stories Especially for Indian cinema with Piku, which is even though I mean, I guess they're simple but unique Because Piku is just yeah, that's just a almost a road trip with family drama Yeah, and Piku for me is a toweringly better. Oh, yeah, I'm not comparing the films right now Yeah, but that pink obviously Yeah But and I would agree those I think those are better films But I don't think it took anything away from this film for me in that aspect so the two the two biggest things for me that were My the things I liked least and really didn't allow me to get into the film The first one was I didn't like him. Okay. I I felt like he was Well, I don't think he was supposed to like his character Well, that's fine, but I like I so didn't like him that like I Didn't care gotcha and I was and I thought to myself I have no vested interest to root for this guy. This guy deserves to be fired This guy's selfish and I think he is rude and he in He endangered a child. Yeah So it was really hard for me to have any level of either empathy or sympathy for the character when I was like Why are they even keeping you on board here? And then When he kept fixating on why was she was asking for me? I like that idea in the story But for the character traits that I saw in him It just seemed definitively narcissistic in his part to just be everything he seemed to do was was more for him What I was expecting from the trailer was a genuine caring for the girl And I saw that but I never cared for him Yes, and I think maybe if it I kept longing for like I wonder if someone like a Raj Kumar Rao Would have engendered something in it or earphone would have a Likeability into a character that's written in such a way that just like he just every turn. I was like, yeah You're why are you doing that? You are everybody has to work a job. They don't like so shut up and do your job show up on time if You're not getting time off from work. Don't lie just so you can go do what you want. So consistently that and then I felt I My favorite thing about the movie is the ultimate the ultimate message of the film and in particular like her name and what that means in the Jasmine Night Flowers But the way it ended it just kind of spoon fed the message to the degree when he even said and so she felt like they felt Like put my head in my hand and went we you don't need that we get it That line in and of itself for me didn't need to be said And so it felt I just but I never connected with it. Yeah, yeah Yeah, and I actually think that was the point of his character. I agree you use a douchebag Thousand percent he was a hundred percent a douchebag And I think that was almost as opposed to the normal story that that's one of the things I think I enjoyed about it is that it wasn't a normal like this was my boyfriend. This is my girlfriend now I'm gonna spend time with her yeah, I got a hair of her. That's definitely different. It was almost about his existential crisis going on that that he Was dealing with inside of him and how He was dealing with tragedy or death. I guess and how others dealt with it Obviously, he's it's douchebag, right? And I think they led on even though They they wasn't specifically said I think those two Cared for each other more than they let on because they gave some hints of that Yeah, yeah, yeah a little bit and obviously they weren't dating. I don't think they no no no I was waiting I thought for a while. I was like are they gonna show that they had a secret relationship? Yeah, or whatever they'd never happened. Yeah but I think that they they care for each other more than they thought and when And so when when he found out that she fell obviously he was trying I just probably the first person that had ever almost died I guess in his life or something like that But then when it happened that he asked for she asked for Dan in the end he almost felt like This guilt and I do think it was some narcissistic miss as well I totally think because that's that's who this character was. Yeah, he was a nurse Narcissistic like douche for most of the film and I think he kind of used this as a Chance to kind of either make up for that and he also felt bad that that family Didn't have anybody there to really help like a father to help out with what was going on I can see some of your I totally get it because I was Trying to figure out almost the entire film. Why do you why do you care so much? You're not you're not you're not her girlfriend You're not family and that's one of the things I was talking about with how different it is from American If a random person who's not a boyfriend or anything even if it was a boyfriend was like budding in on family conversation Right that would not go over well here, right? You just don't but it on family conversations, right? If you're not part of the family, right? Just doesn't even if you're even if you're part of the family like a cousin That's even stretching it here and I know that's different obviously in India sure almost anybody has like they have such big families and they kind of Kind of Take others into the family and I think the mom even said that she was like I was I was being selfish for letting you letting you do this and go as far as you did And so I think he was dealing with some Some stuff in his own personal life Especially when he talked to who was her best friend and how he was at that time I think grown to actually start caring for her in terms of Making like she's still a person in the live as opposed to just writing her off as she's right dead Right, which is a whole nother conversation in and of itself and one of the sad things that We here in America have to deal with of like going into debt or you know making sure her loved one stays Oh, yeah, what it costs you just just have as opposed to just caring about that person And right you don't have to worry about the cost like a bunch of the other world Deals yeah, both as a both as a family member and as a patient because there's a lot of patients who are dealing with something That's gonna cost millions of dollars to treat. Yeah, and in their mind It's like millions of dollars to treat this. I mean this happened. This is Walter White's story Yeah, of I two things. I want my good life Yeah, I want my quality of life to be a certain way But also I don't want to leave my family with a lifetime of debt and me not here Yeah, and so you could see that that side of the uncle His argument right but it's still like, you know, you can't like just Blow off of a person like they're not a person correct, and that's the person you talk to you That's their daughter. There's no way. They're just like, yeah I'm gonna pull the plug on my daughter, of course that would it doesn't you don't do that I and I get why you didn't you didn't like it Yeah, the trailer the trailer the trailer gave the impression per se and it's fine Not not all films have to do in fact It's nice sometimes when a film is different than the trailer, but I was kind of anticipating there to be a story where we watch I thought based on their kind of distance that what was gonna happen was he was gonna fall in love with her While this was happening and she would fall in love with him and then she'd probably die in the end But what we would see is that aspect the very clear Relationship and when it didn't go there when we were Three-quarters the way through the film and she's pretty much still in her coma or just starting to come out of it And the focus was on him. The other thing I was expecting was okay for focusing so much on this guy Why are we being at best really really subtle in? Him learning life lessons through her and she's not knowing it if that had been more Accentuated if we had seen a character arc for him where he went from being this guy that was very selfish and was very rude And wasn't fulfilling his responsibilities And then she somehow through this experience became the person that even in a coma Taught him some of the biggest lessons in life that seemed to be way down here if it had been more Over storytelling I would have actually liked the subtleness of it I think because I And I do agree with that like the one line is like the the Jasmine line that was that was that was a little heavy I do agree with that one But I enjoy it because it's so different than what you normally get you don't normally get the very subtle You figure out mostly outside a couple lines like that that were you know on the nose But you do though That's where I don't want to let it off the hook that easily because even Pika Which is his film that has far more subtlety in it than being heavy-handed and talk about subtle lunchboxes the king of Giving profound messages by saying nothing example She didn't need to say anything when she was going through the laundry and you see her smell the shirt She didn't need to smell the shirt and then walk to the window and say auntie The shirt smells like a woman. We didn't need that No, so the subtleties are in the films that we've seen that so I just I don't I think it was subtle for the most part I'm outside of a few instances But yeah, I'm not comparing it to his other films I do agree pink and be cool are better films, but that didn't really keep me from enjoying this film and I would personally like say if somebody was like should I watch October I would say yes In terms of just is it a quality film? I do think it's a quality film But in turn like do if what they feel like if they were like should I watch Pika or pink or this? I would definitely say watch pink and watch watch Pika of course first I mean, I think I don't know who wouldn't say that. Yeah, but I Still appreciated the film and I think you got some of that growth with him It was just it was very subtle. There was there was just no almost romance in it No, which is fine. No, and there was also believability aspects like he goes from being this guy Who should have been fired and is an absolutely awful awful employee at low-level internship at a hotel where he is doing menial work Suddenly he is a manager of a posh resort. How the freak did that happen? Might have known somebody might have I know but for me it was like How it was a just a believability thing. Yeah, how did this guy just suddenly go from that to this? Mm-hmm. So that that too was another disc yeah disconnect. Yeah, absolutely but Overall, let us know what you thought about this film. What should be the next? Sujit Sarkar. Yeah, Sujit Sarkar. Oh, he did Galapos Otabolo as well. Oh, okay, even yeah that That film I know we didn't really get really Because I remember walking out. I think we thought it was a comedy is essential or at least had the huge aspects It should have been yeah, and I think people did tell us that the subtitles were terrible on that But yeah, I yeah, he died. I that's apparently a very Common outside of pain. I guess pink wasn't that subtle. No pink wasn't that subtle Piku obviously was more subtle Oh, he was director of my dross cafe. Yeah, which is John Abraham Vicki Donner I haven't seen that Well, I'm he direct the other of those because I know What's his name the lead a Ushman he did like a series of these types of films Badajo and A couple other ones, but okay. No, so he's a pretty established director Yeah, but let us know what the next film of his that we should watch and let us know in the comments down below What you thought about this film