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It's just a pair of not clean. No, obviously very very sweaty to very very sweaty So you last night, right? Dark underwear, you know, that's the same as there weren't a lot of holes Oh, wait, you get it your wife let you get away with that if no, she doesn't she throws them away and I get pissed if I'm wearing I'm comfortable or a sticker finger and rip them. Yeah. Oh, wow. They're just naked. Yeah. Yeah, I mean you have sex never leads to that Well, then it's not a good walk around the neighbor see you It's like as she's making fun of me not like she's this is sexy because that's what I would do She did if Jessica just rip my underwear off. Well, I mean we're here I mean I turn around and try to do the what are we gonna do now? The Chinese drums, I do a helicopter. Yeah This drums remember karate kid where they're like So what is it about guys and shirts and underwear with holes in them that we just like so much That's a thing right? I don't know. I think it's just a comfortable thing. No, it's an nostalgia thing I think we're lazy and and we're lazy No, I can have a brand new shirt, and then I can have my shirt Oh, well, okay. Shirts are different like shirts comfort. Yeah, you wear them in, you know, it's where it's like nice and soft and it's hugging you. Yeah, exactly. And it maybe it's going to fall apart, but you know, it's sure, you know, it does a good job with those shirts like that is target. But then they're they only get so many washes and they're done. They already look like they disintegrate. Yeah. Yeah. They're so amazing for like three months. And I guess that's the deal. I mean, I think where they run like six or nine bucks for some of those like the shirts that we all have had them. I know I bought you guys some before that. Yeah, you bought me a NASA one. I got you a NASA one. Doug, when I get you, I got a NASA one as well. Oh, yeah. Oh, no, you got maybe I got you like a nerd science one. I've worn that thing a lot. That's about as far as the target shirts. I bought two of the two or three of the Coke ones, but they fade. You know, after you, I like them so much, I wear them a lot and they they can only get so many washes out of a target shirt. Yeah. And then they're done. They're they're they're what's the word I want to use environmentally friendly because you just wash them and then they just turn into the earth. But the underwear thing last night, that was my bad. So that how did that happen? What are you? Why are you getting naked in the last night? That's I mean, what the fuck? I was changing it. Well, last night we had the cameras. We had the Viori event. Yeah. We'll watch the cameras later, Doug. Watch the video. Do we have cameras in here? Of course we do. I mean, we have these cameras, but we don't have. That was their honor. That one stays on bro. So we're going to review the security footage because I don't believe the original story. You're going to find a whole lot more and out then in there. No. So what happened? I have my me time on Justin's chair. Come on. Come on, man. It's just better lighting over on your side. It's sort of fostering everything. Everything looks bigger over in that. It's not an illusion. It's facing the door with the window. That way you can see if somebody walked right. No. So what happened? Was it in your gym bag? No. So I mean, last night, well, first of all, I had a whole stack of like Viori. I brought more clothes than I normally would to the studio because we were going to Viori. I knew Viori was sending over a new gear for us, but I don't like when anybody dresses me. So I was really nervous. I have issues with that too. I love it. Yeah. You're all about it. Well, that's because your mom laid your clothes out till you were 25. Come on, bro. I was 19. Get the story right. It's a big difference. Have a good day. It's cool. Hold on. I got to comb your hair. Hey, sometimes she forget to be walking around my underwear. Mom. I'm 25, mom. I got to go. I got to date. What the hell? What am I supposed to wear? So, yeah. So no, I was just, and we were rushing out the door to leave because I did the sauna. I showered here and everything. And then I come in. You're right. I come in here and I change. And so I'm like, I scooped up all my clothes. I was carrying my water bottle. I had another drink and I had all this stuff in my hands and I didn't even realize that I dropped it on the way out. So I get a picture this morning from Douglas. What the fuck? I ended up wearing Adam's pants last night. You didn't know that, did you? Why? Did you see if they looked good on him? Yeah, because again, they dressed me with these other really cool green ones, but I don't think it was ripstop. But I was wearing Adam's ripstop. It was like the white ones because it actually fit me better. Was the size that they give you too small? No, it was actually too parachuting. So it fit my hips, but not, I don't know, dude. It didn't fit me very much. Wait a minute. They were big on your cakes? They were big. No, not on his cakes. No, it was like, my legs were just kind of... I was going to say, because that's, I don't know, it was like triple XL then. Anyways, the other one, it was a better fit. I felt better. Everybody looked really good. I laughed, so they, because, okay, so we did a, for people don't know what we're talking about, we did a grand opening event for Viori in Santana Row here up in San Jose. Soft launch first. Soft launch. By the way, brilliant. They opened up across the street from... So was it you I was talking to? So gangster. You know, that's like their strategy. I don't know if we're supposed to talk so much about that. Oh, whoops. But anyway, it's just, I mean, come on. It seems like it would be a good strategy. But anyway, they had a representative. I figured that out. Stop by the studio and bring us brand new Viori clothes for the event. And so I had, I had these pants that I'm wearing right now. And then I had this shirt that, I don't know, what color would you see that shirt? It's kind of like a brownish, goldish. It was like a mustardy... Something like that, right? Yeah, mustard would be a good color. Yeah, so I had a brown one on. It actually looked really good. You didn't want to, like, I don't know about this color. It looked really good on you. Yeah, thank you. So I put it on and through the sleep exhaustion and everything, my wife looks up and she goes, oh my God, he looks so handsome. I was like, okay, this shirt's in the regular rotation. Viori bringing it into the bedroom. So we go to the event, right? We're talking to all of our friends and other fitness people in the area. Great time. Here's the highlight, though. Here's the highlight. Several times, because I'm watching everything, I'm talking to people, we're mingling, we're doing our thing. We're full network mode. At least two times. I'm next to Adam, I'm talking to other people, but I can hear other conversations, right? And at least a couple of times people go up to Adam. This is true though. They go up to Adam and go, man, your skin looks really good. You heard that, huh? Is it the lighting in here? I do get that a few times, dude. It's so funny. Hey, shout out to Caldera, dude, I'll tell you right now. I have been religious. I've never in my life. So I use that, too. I actually use the serum today. A serum is what introduced me to it, right? So I was using it for psoriasis in my face. This is the one we always, all of us, have used. But I actually, I'm on the... I'm an addict with that one now. I'm actually the moisturizer and the cleanser. I'm more on a kick than anything else now. So I'll use the serum throughout the day. If I feel like I'm dry, I keep one here at the studio. But at home, religiously, every night, every morning when I shower, I do the face cleanse and then the moisturizer. Never in my life have I ever done anything like this before. Figured I'm approaching it. I've never put those words together in a sentence. Yeah, either way. You know, I had to like... So I did a video for... Justin's like, I use moisturizer for one thing. No, listen. Moisture, right? Hey, it's really hard to say. It's so foreign to me that I did a little video for them on my Instagram. And I'm like, I had to like read the label multiple times and remember like, oh, what a cleanser. Well, yeah, what's a cleanser? What's a moisturizer? I don't fucking know what that stuff is. That's a girl shit. You know what I'm saying? So I didn't know like... So I had to like remember like which one's which before and I remember I shot it like two different times and I kept messing it up. I'm like, God damn, they don't even... It's like those memes. You guys ever see those memes where they're like, you know, my girlfriend's cleaning products and it's like one for hair, one for ass, one for feet. And the guy's like, you know, all in one, like, it'll wash your hair, your balls, clean your car, decrease your engine. Cures dandruff. Yeah, everything. Oh, good. But, you know, okay, here's the beauty of the fact that we videotape our podcast now. Yeah, you can go back and look. We're not lying. If you look at his face right now, it's always been handsome but now it's... Tiny bit more. It's glowing handsome. Yeah, it's really good. No, I'm emanating handsome. I notice a difference. I notice a difference and pretty quickly too. It didn't take very long of consistency as far as like when I really noticed. And what I noticed is just my skin looks really clear. It balances because I've used... So here's the deal with my skin. I have naturally oily, you know, skin, right? Obviously my parents are Mediterranean, so it's just what happens. And if I mess with moisturizers or anything on my face, it just adds too much and I'll break out because I'm already oily. The caldera balances it out. So it's like, I put it on, my skin is oily. Justin is the opposite, he's dry. I'm like a sponge in the desert. And his balance is out too. And it's because of the formula that they use. No, it's fire. It's really good stuff. You know what else was nice about last night at Eviory was it was one of the first times I've been to, in a long time, an event with a lot of people. Nobody's wearing masks. We're all hanging out. We're all having good conversation because you know, California, they lifted the mask thing or whatever. And it was like a nice get together. It felt normal. Oh, hey. Yeah, it felt normal. You're another human being I can communicate with. It was so nice. I did see the staff, though, have to go put their masks on because I think OSHA requires... I think they're still required for workers. Yeah. So I did feel a little bad for them but everybody else that was there, Networking. What a great time though, man. I had a really good time last night and wasn't sure it was kind of a last minute thing that we threw together. But the turnout was incredible and had some really great conversations with some really, really fun. A lot of interesting people there. A lot of fun. I saw Dr. Brink there. I haven't seen him in a while. Yeah, shout out to Brink. I wish I got a chance to talk to him a little bit longer. I was real brief with him. That was a hard time. You know, he moved his office to... Is it Knox Gym? Yeah, yeah. Okay, so... I think they expanded. He bought the building next door. Is that right, Justin? You've been over there? Yeah, so he's with... Like, Josh Thompson owns the Knox Gym. So, right, he run Corp from your house. Yeah, so he runs some classes there but it's a pretty big facility so he was able to put all of his stuff in there. Most of his recovery except for his cryo machine and so he's probably gonna sell that off. Oh, he's... What? I know. I was like, oh. I didn't know that. I didn't know either. So I was gonna talk to you guys about that. I'm like, do we want a cryo machine? You know what I mean? I don't know. Would we want a cryo machine? I mean, we could trade it for an infrared sauna. Oh, that's right. We got an extra one, don't we? You think you'd want to do that? I don't know. We should... Now, either way, he's still running a lot of the cool stuff that he was doing there before with the Normatec boots and all. If we had a cryo in here, I would use it. Yeah, you use everything. Me too. But here's the thing. Have you... Have you... Dude, no. Cold to hot. Hey, have either one of you actually cryoed and lifted? I did. Yeah. Fucking amazing. I did. It's not bad. Yeah. I mean, it's... It does get... It amps the CNS, so it's like a caffeine shop. Yes. No, it feels amazing. Yeah. Now, he... Okay, so I don't know what goes into it. Does a cryo machine require you buy tanks of... Nitric. Oh, yeah. Got gas and all that stuff? You have the nitric oxide tank. Oh, that's the thing. It's attached to it. Yeah, he's... Yeah, anyway, I don't want to... But like, it was... What are you going to say, Doug? What are you going to say? Oh, liquid nitrogen. Is that what that is? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe. Yeah, I'm sure. Don't fuck that up. Yeah, get the right thing. You ever watch Terminator 2? Come on, man. I don't like it. Yeah. I'm not trying to get it. Oh, it's cool, though. Like, did he mention to you how many listeners have come to see him in person? Well, Dr. Brink, for people who don't know... No, he hasn't said that. For people who don't know... Remember, we've been doing this for a long time. He had such a profound impact on us, because he's so exceptionally good at what he does, correctional movement and mobility work and curing paint. He had such a huge, profound impact on us that it led to some of the development of Maps Prime Pro. So he's... The guy's exceptional. So if you're looking for somebody to work on you, either virtually or in person... He's the best, dude. By far. For sure the best in the Bay Area. By far. I've never met anybody that is as talented and as smart as he is and has helped me out as much as he has. Yeah, and he's always worked with a lot of high-level athletes in the regular piece. So he's done MMA, and that's how he's connected to them. So speaking of athletes, we got to talk about this. What? We got to talk about Laurel Hubbard. You know who that is? I do know. What's that name? That is the transgender weightlifting athlete. Oh, that's why I know the name. That's going to be competing in the Olympics in Tokyo. Olympic weightlifting, right? Olympic weightlifting. So I've gotten so many DMs from people who are like, please talk about this. Please talk about this. Okay, so here's... What do you want me to say? Yeah, what are we getting? Someone's happening. They asked me on my question. They have my Q&A. Someone asked me what I think about, and I said, oh, it sucks for all the other chicks competing. And he goes, yeah, it does suck. That's how I feel. Well, okay, so I want to give... There's a couple thoughts that I have on this that I would like to express. One of them is very tragic, in my opinion, because I'm all for individual liberty and rights. I think this... Well, I don't think this is true. The smallest of all minorities is the individual. So if you... So I do believe all individuals' rights and liberty should be completely respected, which includes groups like LGBT and other groups. Here's the problem, though. I think something like this is going to set back the LGBT community because this is a fact. I'll debate anybody on this, and the science will support it. For sure, there's a level of gaslighting that's going on with this, because in the pursuit of equality and rights and fairness, in that pursuit, they're gaslighting people by blatantly lying, and this is what the lie is. The lie is that if you... There's no advantage. Go through puberty as a male that once you block hormones and transition, that you completely erase that advantage that men definitely, obviously, have. It's not true. Wasn't somebody talking to us... And please, you know, finish this for me, because I'll probably, you know, totally not repeat it correctly. So... But we are having a conversation, I believe. I want to say, Justin, it was with Jesse up in Tahoe. Okay. And he was sharing that within the community that there's a lot of, like, behind-the-scenes drama that's going on between, I think, lesbian and transgender. I think it has to do with, like... In feminists, there's split. Yes. There's also... Yeah, there's some split there with, like, women's rights and... Well, would it come... Classification. And it's the sports that there's a big split, because if you're... That's why I'm bringing it up, because I think it has to do... It has to do with the sports, because let's say, for example, there was an athlete, a female weightlifting athlete, that missed the cut, she'd been training her whole life, missed the cut to compete in the Olympics, because Laurel Hubbard made it in. So there's only so many slots. So you have an athlete working their ass off-trend, and it's like, it's a fact. Biological men have a significant physical advantage over women. And it's also a fact that you don't erase it completely. You just don't. When you go through puberty, there's a lot of permanent stuff that happens. You lose some of it, but not all of it. I mean, you could put me in all the hormone blockers you want. I'll still be stronger than my sister. And you could put her on testosterone. And I'll probably still be stronger than my sister. This is just a total fact. By the way, check this out. There's some more crazy stuff. You know, the committee's testosterone guideline is higher for transgender athletes than cis women. So they're allowed to use more. They're allowed to have higher testosterone levels. Because they're taking synthetic. No, because they're... So see, now that's where it's interesting, right? So if you're a woman competing, and you know that there's transgender in the mix, why wouldn't you be able to take exogenous testosterone? I don't know, man. I think it's to level it out. Again, this is just like... It's so politicized to where we're not really talking about what actually is fair. Yeah, there's treating people with dignity and respect, what you should. And then there's just facts. And if you want to say... I think we're just in a really... I think we're just in a weird time. I know right now it's like the thing to talk about and get all riled up about because it's... This is just a purpose. I hate being gaslighted, bro. I can't stand it. I know. It really pisses me off. But here's the thing. We're in the middle of this transition, right? This is new. This is new for us and how... And I think everyone is trying to figure out how to deal with it. And I want to believe that more and more situations like this is going to surface, and eventually what will happen, as more and more transgender athletes come out that actually do want to compete at the higher level, they'll create a category for themselves. They'll be transgender athletes, and then there'll be male and female. That's the logical way to handle it, but where it meets the road is that they want to be accepted as a woman fully. And so they don't want to be indistinguished from being a woman. And that's the challenge. Yeah, so that's why you can't really have a logical conversation at that point. Yeah, that's the challenge. And here's the deal, Adam. It ain't going to go backwards. Once they allow them to compete fully, they're not going to take that away because then it's going to be viewed as taking away... I don't necessarily believe that. I believe that... You think there's going to be a pendulum swing? I do, I do. And I think there's going to be enough situations where a woman, like you said, that is getting ready to compete in the Olympics gets fucked. And they're going to... It's going to have to be women that speak up. That's why. That's their fight. That's what's going to happen. It's right. I don't think a lot of women athletes were thinking about that originally when this first started to happen. And then now that it's starting to unfold and they see that, and then when they start taking scholarships from other women and they start squeezing them out for the Olympics and things like that, then it's going to be women that come forward. And that voice is going to be heard. Not from a bunch of meathead white males. That's not who's going to listen. Like they're not going to listen to you or I talk about how it's unfair and that they're... That only gives a fuck about what we have to say about it. But when a bunch of women that are getting fucked in this situation realize like, wow, this could get out of control and this could become a problem. And this is really hurting a lot of these female athletes that have been working their entire life for this moment and they get squeezed out because someone decided to change their sex two years ago and now has the ability to come in and compete against us. Which by the way, is that... Can they do that? I just said that. I don't know how many years it is. I think it's like three years. You know, they used to be required to have bottom surgery too, but they're not either. They're not required to have surgery, just the hormonal change. So they've made it more and more. Which I don't know if that really matters. It doesn't, but in my opinion, look, I don't know how... I don't know how much of a difference this would make, but... Not as aerodynamic, I know that much. That makes the difference. Yeah, it does. No, okay, so here, I'm going to push the controversy... I'm going to push the controversy a little further here. Okay, okay. So I think this is important. You guys are familiar with the extremes that athletes will go to just to win. Well, the case you're about to make is the case that I made when we had the two Transengers on. Yeah, do you think that there's going to be... I do. There potentially could be somebody that wants to win so bad. That's a competitive mind. And you remove barriers to let them do that. That's what's going to stop this. That is what's going to really... Because right now, it's kind of, you know, who wants to tell somebody who has decided to transition their whole life and maybe they're not going to go win a competition, that they can't go compete with girls, and it's not a big deal right now. But when it gets so popular that people are going and actually changing their sex to win a gold medal, and that happens more than once. And people would think somebody like Lance Armstrong would do that. Yes, it will happen. They do crazy shit anyway. And the exact... And the reason why I made that argument when we had the two Transgender athletes on our show, that that will happen, and I think it's absurd to think it won't happen, is because they did that survey on Olympic athletes. If you were going to die five years later... Okay, so they... Guarantee that you win. Yeah, but guaranteed you were going to win a gold medal, would you accept that trade? A majority. Yes, like 80% or something ridiculous. More than half said yes. I know. So if more than half the people would accept that they were willing to die five years later just to achieve this gold medal, what makes you think that there's not a percentage of people out there that would be willing to change their sex just so they could win? I just don't... I think it's silly. It's naive to think that that won't happen at one point. Either way, it's going to be really interesting to watch what happens after this, right? And see how if... What's her name again? Laurel Hubbard. Laurel Hubbard just wins the gold, and then we'll kind of respond. Is there a chance that she doesn't? I'm assuming it's going to happen, but... Okay, so here's the thing. And this is the worst argument in the world that people try to make. There's a variance in women and a variance in men. The strongest women in the world are stronger than the weakest men in the world. So that's true, right? But that doesn't mean that we're... That generally speaking, there's an equivalent with physical strength and power and all that stuff. Generally speaking, men obviously are several layers higher in performance. That's a fact. So here's the problem. If Laurel Hubbard wins gold, then it's going to be like, I told you, this is what's going to happen. But here's what might happen. And she doesn't. Laurel Hubbard gets bronze or nothing, right? Then everyone's going to be like, see, there isn't an advantage. Still not fucking true. That's still not true. There's a clear advantage. And just because they didn't win first place, second or third, doesn't mean that there isn't a clear advantage. There is an advantage. There are always... By the way, you know Laurel Hubbard when before transitioning, competed as a weight lifter as well. As a male, right? As a male. Yeah. And that's where this makes it. Did not and didn't rank very highly at all. And then transitioning now has made it to the Olympics as a 40-something-year-old athlete. I don't know. I think there's a loud minority that is pro it and doesn't really give... And then there's most people who go, scratch their head and go like, yeah, I don't think... Even if you don't understand the science, I think there's still a large portion of people who go like, that doesn't seem like it should be fair. Like I don't think that's right. And I think as more of these cases come out and when we do start to see what I think we are both predicting is going to happen, which is people transitioning for the pursuit of winning championships and gold medals and so on. And yes, it will happen. It's only a matter of time before it does. And then when it becomes a thing, when multiple people start doing it... I think the big thing that'll... There's going to be a backlog. Well, see, I think the big thing that'll change it is just when this has become super dominant in sport. That's what I think. When you start to see like, oh my gosh, they're crushing it. Well, it's unfortunate for the women that have been working their entire lives for that moment. Well, first of all... You've got to think about like what it takes to be an Olympic athlete your whole life. By the way, it's already challenging to be a female athlete because the opportunities are still, are way smaller. Well, and I want to defend the transgender too. It's not like it's easy for them too, just because they were a male before transition. It doesn't mean like all of a sudden they should be great at powerlifting or whatever like that. Like, I mean, to their credit also, they have worked their ass off to get to the level and in their defense, they just want to compete, right? So I made this decision. I want to change my sex. I've always loved competing. Where do I go now? And your only place, the option they have for you is there. We haven't figured that out yet. Like where it is to kind of place. Yeah. What was that statistic? It was like the fastest woman in the world ran like the world record. And then there's something like thousands of high school male athletes that do it every single year. There's a clear difference there. It's please don't gaslight everybody. If you want to be honest, just say there's an advantage, but we don't care. We think this is what we need to do. Then I'm okay. But when you say there's no advantage, come on, dude. No, the strongest, fastest, the strongest, fastest, highest jumping, every physical pursuit category, the male version beats the female version, you know? But it doesn't mean that there's not, like you said, many women that are extremely strong. There's a lot of women that kick my ass in a boxing ring. There's a lot of women that would throw me around on a jiu-jitsu mat. But I'm not world class at any of those things. You take a world class male at those things and they're going to win every time. So there's a clear, and it's not just, I think what people are confused about is that it's a hormone thing. It's not just testosterone. No, it's not just that. No, it's not. And there's a lot of permanent stuff that happens. Muscle memories are very real things. So you build a ton of muscle through puberty and you have it as a male and then you transition. You don't lose. It's the similar case that we've talked about with MMA athletes who use steroids to get up in a weight class. And then they compete against a naturally- That's right. I'll take the natural guy along. I'll take the natural dude who walks around at 240 his whole life and is used to that and has the bones, the ligaments, the tendons to support that size naturally. Then the guy has to juice himself up. Yeah, then the guy that hormonally shot himself up to get up to that class. That natural dude has the advantage in that situation. Yeah, I know. Hey, speaking of athletes, you know how I brought up Andre the Giant in a previous episode? Talked about some of the stuff. He made me want to watch it. Well, dude. So I pulled up. Okay, this guy literally blows my mind with some of the stuff that I read about him. So trip off this. These are some facts about Andre the Giant that are just a total trip. So we talked about his world record of drinking, I thought it was 119 beers in one night, which is insane. That is insane. I can't fathom that. Okay, I looked it up, right? Read up some more statistics. Check this out. He drank every day 7,000 calories worth of booze every day. Every day. Every day? 7,000 calories of booze. What did he eat? Every single day. How old was he when he passed? See, he died young because the gigantism, which is this two-way chart, you end up shooting up, getting real big, real strong, and then you get this, where your bones hurt, your joints hurt, and then you die. Now, did you read anything on like, because I don't remember reading this in the Hitman book. Did he talk about like, you know, why so much alcohol? Like, was he depressed? I think he just enjoyed it, and he could metabolize it. I mean, he definitely partied all the time, like in the documentary they showed it. It wasn't just alcohol. So, when he would go out to dinner, if he wanted to like shock people, this is something that he would do routinely. You ready for this? At one sitting, he would eat 12 steaks and 15 lobsters. 12 steaks and 15 lobsters? Yes. We get $10,000 tax. Yeah, as he says. Super expensive, oh man. Just to kind of like shock people. He'd be like, I'll eat this, and everyone's gonna freak out. And this is not including the amount of booze that he would throw on top of it. Wow. Yeah. Just shows up at a restaurant. Oh, we're out of the special. Sorry. Andre's here. So, here's a note. Check this out. When he would get surgery, because later on he had to get surgery, the anesthesiologist had a really tough time figuring out the dosage for this guy, because he was massive, and he obviously had a metabolism that metabolized. You know what I get what's in my head right now? Because he just said that. He's like, I can't help but think like, you know how, you guys have been like a really fine like fish restaurant, and they like roll the fish out, and you pick your fish, you're gonna eat it. Oh, yeah, they should. Like a cart. I could do like a cow. You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? It's just like different, like three different cows walking. Which one would you like? This is messy. Yeah, yeah. I'll take her. No. You raised her. Can you cut the left leg off? I'll eat the rest. Yeah, no. Oh, 46 years old. Wow, he was that young. He also, yeah, he died young, 46. And in those last years, he was in a lot of pain. You remember The Princess Bride? Yep. Okay, that's a great movie. He's in it. And by that point, he was in a lot of pain. In many of those scenes, he had to be stabilized by devices and stuff because he had so much back pain. Yeah, it's sad. Poor guy, right? His shoe size was 22. So he had a shoe size of 22. And his ring was so big on his finger that you could put a silver dollar coin through it. Whoa, a silver dollar? Some sausage digits. I know. No way, dude. That's like that. I know. Yes. Imagine if he was your proctologist. Yeah, he's sad. That would be a funny thing. You know, 10 careers, Andre the Giant would not be good at. Yeah, proctologists. You're not getting a second opinion. Start that list on the forum. 10 jobs Andre the Giant would not, or in the YouTube comments, 10 jobs that Andre the Giant would not be good at. I want you to relax. What else? Like, what's another job you need? Like, you know, you would be terrible at sewing, right? You couldn't even sew very well. You wouldn't be good at building Legos. His wrist size was the same as a gorilla. So he had a wrist size as big as an average gorilla. Yeah, massive human. He's probably the closest example of what gorilla strength is probably be like in a human, I would think. Yeah, so I was reading stories about him because I got all deep into it. He would play this prank on his friends, and this was he was known for this. They would go somewhere and he would pretend to go to the bathroom, and then he would go out and he would physically move the friend's car somewhere. So he'd lift the car and move it somewhere and the person would go out and think that the car was stolen. Where's my car? And he'd laugh because he picked it up and moved it. That's how freaking beastly. Have you read it? Like, I don't know what his, some of his like physical like deadlifting or. I don't think he ever did any. I don't think he lifted weights. Yeah. Can you imagine? He just picked cars up. Yeah. We don't know what his full capacity was. The guy never even tested himself. I don't remember this either. Did they talk about him taking steroids? I imagine he had to if he was in the WWE. No, no, no. I don't even know if he needed them. No, he didn't take anything. You don't think he took anything? No, I know that. 100%, he didn't take anything. Oh, really? Yeah, dude. Wow. It would have, I mean, it would have probably killed him much sooner. You remember, this guy was flooded. He had so much mask to the authority. With growth hormone and everything, such a young age. You got, you reminded me like I was. You know who else has that disorder? And now they have surgeries and stuff that can solve it. Tony Robbins. Yeah, Tony Robbins. Yeah, Tony Robbins has it. Yeah. You can always tell kind of the voice. It has this like distinctive sort of sound to you. Yeah. So he actually takes something to suppress it? Or do you know, what do you know about Tony Robbins? What's his health issues? Yeah, I don't know all the details on that. I don't know if it was a permanent thing. Oftentimes, isn't it a tumor on the pituitary? And maybe it's been removed. I'm not sure. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, so the tumor is making the pituitary, producing incredible amounts of growth hormone at a young age and it just keeps going. And then before they knew about the stuff, if you were a kid, it was just like you're just a giant. Like, why is my six-year-old, you know, six feet tall? Yeah. And they can't really do anything about it. Wow, wow. Yeah, so Tony Robbins had a pituitary tumor at age 31. So he grew 10 inches in one year. At age 31? Yeah. At age 31, it was diagnosed. So they discovered it at age 31. When did he grow the 10 inches? When he was a teenager. Oh, okay. Could you imagine being like 30 years old and all of a sudden the next year you're like 10 inches taller? Oh, yeah. That would be a weird ass thing. That'd be kind of cool. Dude. Oh, speaking of Strongman, I was talking to my friend Dennis. He was one of the founders of Stick Mobility. And he's doing like this really, I always watch his Instagram because he does like really interesting training all the time. I like their stuff. Yeah. And he does it mainly like based off of old-timey, like Strongman stuff that he reads all the time. And like you and me both, I kind of have. Yeah, we get into that. But you got into basically getting into also like neck training and jaw training as well. And he was trying to describe it to me like, in terms of like what your body has. So if my lats are going to cover more of my lower back and then up into my thoracic, you get into like the rhomboises covering like thoracic. You get up to the traps. It has covers kind of both thoracic into like cervical. But then like the last failsafe being your neck and your jaw like contributing to that strength in supporting your spine, you know, for your cervical spine. And so, you know, a lot of Strongmen used to bite on, like they'd be able to lift like 300 pounds with their teeth. Yeah. And it was like sort of this other component to lifting that has been totally like eradicated. I imagine that was part of why Jack LaLaine did that feat. I mean, what would make a fitness guy go, I'm going to do a tugboat with my teeth. That's an old, so old timey Strongman events, oftentimes included something where they would grab something to lift it with their teeth to show how strong they were. So when you showed me that, my grandfather used to do this. I told you guys in my family, like feats of strength is just like a thing, right? Everybody likes doing it or whatever. I remember when I was a kid going to Sicily and hearing stories of my grandfather, my great-grandfather, and you know, I was into working out and they're like, oh, this is in your blood. This is why you enjoy doing it. Well anyway, my grandfather used to do this feat of strength where he would say he's heavy wooden dining room chairs. And they showed me the chairs, his teeth marks all over the back of it. He would lift it, he would bite the back of it and lift the chair with his teeth. This was my grandfather used to do this. That's wild. To show everybody. And what's interesting too is like when you see some of these old pictures of these guys, like their jaw is just like chiseled, you know, and it's square and then their teeth are like really pronounced, like so you can see the divides in them and they're really healthy looking. It's interesting. Yeah, our jaws are so weak compared to our ancestors because you figure they were chewing meat and they were eating roughage and it was fibrous. It wasn't like, you know, what we have now. All day long, it's really, really strong jaws. Soft, you know, weenie faces. Well, you know, neck and jaw training was a part of Mike Tyson's training early on. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You ever seen pictures of his neck? I mean, his neck was ridiculous. There's probably a reason, this is probably part of the reason too, why that jossercise guy has done so well. There's some truth to believe so. There is, yeah. That's the thing. As gimmicky as it may sound, I mean, I know he's blown up, right? So things don't really seem so ridiculous stuff, but there's got to be some value to it. Yeah. Hey, oh, you know what? I forgot, I want to bring this up. I looked up the psychological term for when people go on the wagon and then they go off the wagon. There's an actual psychological term for this. What's it mean? That's been studied. Okay, so when I say go on the wagon, off the wagon, I'm referring to when people, let's say you're on a diet and then they decide they're going to go eat a cookie or something and it ends up turning into a binge, right? Or they just go... You're off the wagon. Yeah, it's like, it's not like a little bit, it's way over the other side. So there's a psychological term for it called abstinence violation. And abstinence violation, it's a phenomenon where because you already broke a hard rule, even though it might be a small break, now that you've broke it, that's it. The floodgates are over. Oh no, what does that say? That's not good. I have some... I get that. So what is that? Is that a bad thing? Well, it's just a psychological phenomenon and it's a common one. I don't know if it's a bad thing. It's very common. That's a... I mean, I have this, right? So if I have something in the house that I shouldn't eat or whatever like that, like, so okay, we had... What was it for? I don't even know why we had this. Oh, Father's Day. Father's Day, the girls all cooked dinner for my brother and myself. And then they also ordered my favorite Paris Baguette blueberry chiffon cake, which I just... He's so fancy. Right. His dessert's always correct. I love it, dude. You get all into it. Hey, check. He doesn't eat regular desserts. Yo. It's like an Ohoi cookie. Yeah. It's fucking some chiffon. Oh, yeah. Hey, if I'm gonna do it, dude, I'm gonna do it. You know what I'm saying? Like candles? Yeah, I love it. Hey, hey. It's so you, dude. I love it. Fuck with that stuff. Paris Baguette. That's the company. I know we're not sponsored by them. I don't get no plug or kickback for this stuff. That is the best cake in the world. I'm like, I'll eat some gummy bears. Nah. See, I can't do that. Just if I'm gonna go, I don't want to... But here's the thing though. What happens to me is I have a piece of it and I broke the seals like how I feel. Yeah. And then I'll just... I'll finish the cake, you know? Just give me the rest of it. It's like it's in the refrigerator. I don't want to go to waste, you know? And I feel like I already broke the seal. Hey, isn't it funny? You're just gonna dry out. Isn't it funny that we will justify our behaviors? Like we'll do it and it's like obviously not good behavior, but then we'll justify it. Oh. I'm not wasting it. Yes, totally. Yeah. It's bad for the environment. And I know I'm doing that. But 100% I see what's going on. So I'm not oblivious to it. Yeah, but basically the hallmark of this is that what kept you in abstinence was just sheer willpower. And you've made so much of a big deal of being in this box of strict that anything outside of that, it doesn't matter anymore. Yeah, that's what you find that is like that rigidness. Like going into it and like the all in. So that's part of the on the wagon thing, right? It's just like everything has to go specifically. Now what does the now the original term that's got to be cut, they had to come from something. What is on the wagon, off the wagon? What's it? What's the origin of that? Probably like the organ trail. Maybe. He's off the wagon. No, it's something to do. The Donner party? Something to do with. Hey look, let's eat them. Fuck it. We're eating one guy. Might as well eat the rest of them. I mean, we're already doing it. Yeah, he's off the wagon. Something to do with that's how they were used to carry the alcohol and barrels or some shit like that watch. Oh, really? Yeah. So that's pretty cool. I think I don't know. I could totally be making that up. So I don't know. Sounds right. I mean that the the psychological phenomenon that you're talking about, is that the research and stuff come from trying to track, figure out people with alcohol or is it just in general? No, it just it literally can be applied. I'm going to look it up. I'll pull up the study. It can be applied to. Speaking of alcohol, by the way, two things Doug, or I'll put it on your to remember for us. I know we're out of the the red stag drink that we all like, because we're going to the truckie. So red stag. And then I do know that we're starting to dwindle away at the z-biotics. So make sure that we bring. I know we have some Jefferson whiskey. I'll bring up whoever was up there last, but did some damage on it because I thought we had. I brought the hunter pack of z-biotics up there. And where did they all go? Yeah. I mean, I had like three at me. Yeah, we're not out, but we're definitely we're definitely dwindling dwindling down. So we're less than a less than a third left. So we have the whole family, everybody up there. So I want to make sure that we're. You're talking about z-biotics, bring it up there? Yeah, so we're stuck up. Are you guys trying to get smashed up there or what? Well, I'm not trying to get smashed, but I mean, I'm in a good time. Wake up and be cool, right? Sir, we're planning on doing some fly fishing in the morning. Are you really? Yeah. Nobody invited me. Fly. Yes. Well, we will. I don't know. Are you a fishing guy? No, I'm not. You have an extra pole, then, see? I got the pole to get the vest, everything for you. I'll be working out. Well, outfit, you bro. I'll be in the gym. I'll be working out. I'll just be doing curls and looking at myself. Yeah. Yes. Until you guys get back. OK, so I looked it up, right? I looked it up. Abstinence violation effect, so AVE. And basically the therapist, when they work on it, what they're trying to do is they're trying to figure out alternative coping mechanisms. So you might have issues coping with something. Interesting. And here's the on the wagon, off the wagon. Yes, yes. Started in the 1890s when men who vowed to stop drinking said they would rather ride a water wagon to get a drink of water than resort to alcohol. Ah. Water wagons were commonly seen on the streets at that time. It was old. So when a man drank alcohol rather than water, he fell off the wagon. Hmm. Ah. That's interesting. OK. All right, you guys want to hear another, since we're on the cool facts type of stuff. Yeah, yeah. Cool facts. You want to hear something scary? Yeah. This is true. You ready for this? Yeah. In 1958, a 7,600 pound nuclear bomb, 7,600 pound nuclear bomb, was lost off of the Georgia coast and has never been found. How do you lose a 7,000 pound bomb? I think a plane was crashing or something that carried it and he dropped it to get rid of it. And it's, there's a nuke off the coast of Georgia that has never been found. It's just chilling. That should scare the hell out of you. Yes. Do you live anywhere near there? It's not the only one. But there's other nukes that have been lost and they're somewhere and we just don't know. That's true. How? Dude, how can you lose it? And then, like, when you send a search party. Well, bro, it goes in the water, it hits the bottom of the ocean. Who knows? And it's just there. Yeah. But the technology we have. Do you think that's kind of important? So, like, terrorists don't grab it? Can't we read? Don't we have, I mean, we have shit. We could blow up the dirt and be able to hear sound, vibrate back to find where oil is. We could find oil. Yeah, we could find oil. We could find nukes? We could find oil thousands of feet under the ground with blowing up dynamite in the dirt. This is cheaper to make than a lot. Yes, because you mean to tell me we don't have, like, like an underwater tool that could tell us we're a fucking nuclear bomb is? Well, no, here's the truth now. It's the bottom of the ocean. The real truth is that somebody sold it to another country on the cover. And they lost it. Yeah, and that's it. We lost it. We lost it in the ocean. All of a sudden. It fell off the back of the truck. There's a nuclear powerhouse in the country. Sounds like a hustle to me. Yeah, I don't know. Al-Qaeda, I mean, we lost it off the course. I like that theory. No, but we know less about the bottom of the ocean than we do the surface of the moon. I mean, it's so, like, we just found the Titanic. How long it took to find the Titanic? Okay. Do you know how many people look for it? Speaking of the Titanic conspiracy theory. Let's hear it. What else do we have? Yeah, so is it the Olympic? You're on the same level. Yes, yes, I heard this. Yeah. Is it bullshit or did you look it up? No, I mean, no, it was a real boat. Like, it was like, had like similar dimensions to Titanic. So was it Rockefeller? Not Rockefeller. Was it J.P. Morgan? Yes. Party J.P. Morgan. Okay, J.P. Morgan. So the conspiracy is that all his competitors that were the powerhouses of the day, all the millionaires, billionaires of the day, he got to ride the maiden voyage of the Titanic. And so, but he didn't go on the Titanic. And basically the conspiracy is that they basically set it up so the captain would go directly into the icebergs because they knew that they would sink and kill the competitor because they were challenging J.P. Morgan on the World Bank structure that they were trying to create. And supposedly he canceled last minute. So he was scheduled. So he was in, yeah, so he's scheduled but then pulled out in like the night before. Yeah. But where does it remind me of the, okay, because I listened to somebody talking about this conspiracy a little bit. What does it have to do with, so the thought is that they had another boat that was the same size or whatever, the Olympic, as the Titanic. And so this. So there's another conspiracy that says like it never even sank. Right. That the Titanic never sank. That it was really the Olympic that they sunk. Yeah. So it's confusing, but there's lots of running theories with it. Well, if you really, if you ever want to. It's so funny, I just heard that. If you ever really want to trip out, read the creature at Jekyll Island. Just going to read that. And how they created, how they got sent, the central bank. That's like, that sent me down a rabbit hole a long time ago. And that's true. They literally got together in secret on Jekyll Island. And in the way they got the laws passed through and then the opposing senators and stuff and what happened to them. It's. Well, isn't it wild? That's a fishy. That's a private entity, right? Oh, yeah. Oh, bro. So the fact that the government borrows from a private entity. And they have a monopoly on it. Yeah, what means there's, yeah, exactly. It means there's a handful of people that are bro, we are unbelievably benefiting from. We are taking money from a bank that makes our dollars and then we're paying them interest. So the U.S. government doesn't make its own money. We take it from a bank and pay them interest. And that's the camera and missed out on a much better movie. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. Not the old lady. He lost the necklace. Yeah. Yeah, just. What? That was certainly like, she's like, looks at this like jam that's worth like trillions of dollars and just like conspiracy. I was like, no. That would have been way better. Yeah. Paint me like one of your French girls. I have interesting business news I was reading today. So I was reading this article on Microsoft right now and they're making some moves right now with Android and phones and the apps and basically what they are doing to compete with Google and Apple is if you have an app through Microsoft and Android they are not going to take a cut whatsoever. So you guys know that Apple and Google take 30%. So if you have an app and you monetize it and everything like that, like Apple and Google get 30% of your revenues. Microsoft is giving you 100% of your revenues. Wow. That's smart. Very smart. It's going to be very interesting to see what that does. Because it's man is so expensive to even develop one, let alone now they're taking a cut once you finally get in the market. Like think about all those things you have to overcome just to be profitable. This is what I love about the competition of markets. And Microsoft is just quietly right below all these companies that we always talk about, the Apple's, the Google's, which are not sexy. And they're also never in trouble. They're never like Facebook and Google and they're always getting all this spying. Like Microsoft doesn't deal with any of that stuff. No, they just make vaccines that. Bill Gates controlling the population. I mean this is going to be a really interesting play to see what ends up happening. Like as far as that, that's going to be, that's a big deal. If you're an app developer and you make. Bro, that's a big deal. That's a huge deal. Yeah, and obviously Android apps, I believe, aren't quite as, maybe you can look at it. Android apps versus Apple apps as far as the size of the business, right? So how many? The market share. I'm just not a fan of the new app. Yeah, thank you, market share. The market share that Android has in comparison to Apple. I remember when you and I were looking at it. Well, I know Android is much bigger. No, no, no, no. No. Not apps, but aren't more phones in the world Android than Apple? Oh, I don't know about that. I don't know about that. I know it's more open source, right? So they get a lot of different companies that can do more. It's not like as controlled as Apple's platform. They just like, you can't do a whole lot. Wow, it looks like I was right. Look at that. Smartphones running the Android operating system hold an 87% share on the global market. Okay, you know, that's Android phones. Smart. I'm not asking that. I'm wanting to know about their app share. Their app market. The app market. So they, androids are more phones, but they don't have Apple. I would imagine they've got more apps then. No, I don't think that. I think Apple has that as the leader. I think, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, it's again, I don't know. But the thing that I don't mess with, why it's interesting, obviously, obviously the developer and the, the, the, the entrepreneur benefits from, from this, the consumer doesn't really feel the difference, right? So if the, unless what happens is they significantly reduce their prices on Android, right? So, oh, you get my app that I developed, you buy it on Apple, I got to charge you $9.99 for the app. But if you get it through Android, I can charge you $5.99, because I'm keeping 100% of the profit, which that will be interesting to see if people start to go. Yeah, we'll have to see too, if that incentivizes people to kind of switch platforms too. I wonder. Yeah, I can't find it either. I'm trying to Google it myself. Yeah, I'll look more into it and then circle back on it. I just read it this morning. So I thought it was interesting. I'll, I'll get more detail on it. Else was interesting. I saw that Netflix had just done a deal with Steven Spielberg. Do you guys see that? What are they doing? Oh, yeah. So basically, I don't know if it's like a three-year deal or how, how long the deal is, but basically he's supposed to produce, I think it's either three to five movies within the Netflix platform itself. Yeah, through Ambulin, his, his company. Now, when's the last good Steven Spielberg movie? You guys know, because I know the classics. He just did one. Did he? Yeah. Yeah, he just lost one. See what he just did. Yeah, that's a good question. Because I feel like he did great for a while and then afterwards was great. No, bro. He's always got fired, bro. Really? Yeah, Steven. Hold on, let me see. Yeah, let's look up recent movies. Because when I hear Spielberg, I think E.T. Wish my producer was over on the computer for this one. Indiana Jones and, I mean, but so, so either way, it's, that's a big deal for Netflix to grab a director. Like plus he was throwing shade at the whole streaming player one, bro. Oh yeah, there you go. Oh, that was really good. That was straight fire. That was really good. Super good. Yeah, fire. And you know what's funny? He did the post and so that was 2000, 2018. And you could tell that was his, that was that was a Spielberg movie. Oh my God, it was so good too. So he's still, he's still going to be producing movies through Universal, I believe, as well. Like, so it's like this sort of like, he sort of conceded to the fact that yes, through the pandemic and everything else that proved like streaming is not going away anytime soon. Like, because he was, I guess, he was criticizing a lot of the streaming services like when they're going to get awards for, what is it, the Oscars or Academy Awards, whichever one of those. And was like snubbing Netflix and, you know, Amazon and all those like films from being nominated. Oh yeah. So they have for like about face. Now he's like working with them. It's changing, dude. Oh, no, the changing of the guard is and that we're in the middle. Are you guys following it all? I have no idea what's happening with movie tickets. Like they're back open. I mean movies are, I mean, I've been a few times. I bet you they're tanking. I don't know any good movies that are out in the movie theater. Well, and what we're seeing right now, which I'm wearing this summer, what I'm usually when the blockbuster, what I'm really curious about is, are we going to continue to see what we've seen through the pandemic in this, this early transition, which is when a movie hits the theater, it also hits HBO Max or Amazon. And you have the option. Yeah. Because that's what's going to be really, I still think there'll be a small market for somebody who wants both. I think it's going to take some time for people to get back to the theaters. But I do think that that won't go away. It's a cool date night. I mean, because we've been cooped up for so long, I have had the itch for that as much as I, I think I would do 90% of my movie watching from home because I like it that way. And I have a setup for that. I still think that 10% of the time I would say, Hey, you know what? We haven't been to a movie in a few months. Like let's go do dinner. Let's go get a babysitter. Yeah, I still enjoy it. Yeah. I still would enjoy doing that, but nowhere near at the frequency that I was before. I was almost a once a week movie goer. Dude, I'm tired of being at home, dude. I get the hell out of home. So check this out. I looked up Spielberg, right? Movies. Did you guys know that there's an Indiana Jones project that'll be released in 2022? Yeah. And there's a West Side Story in 2021. Did you guys ever watch West Side Story? Long time ago. Great. Great. It's a musical, right? So good, though. Okay. The Indiana Jones, is it through? Who's that through? Is it? Who owns that originally? This is Spielberg's. That's Universal. And also Universal. George Lucas and Spielberg both connect on that. I think George Lucas wrote it. So then is that connected to Disney? Like, where will it stream? Oh, yeah, I don't know. Is it going to stream? So where will it stream? Good question. Probably either Universal or maybe it's going to be on Netflix. And I really feel like what we're seeing, which I like, at least I'm really enjoying it with Disney right now, is this whole idea of taking iconic movies and characters and then building spinoffs of it. Yes. I mean, Loki is just, I'm so into that show right now. They are doing such a great thing. I'm going to sell my idea right now because I want someone to make this damn movie. I want someone to make this. Yeah. Okay. I'm wearing a shirt right here. Mickey's gym. We talked about this. Make a rocky spinoff where we see Mickey as a boxer, growing up, Irish immigrant, fighting in the dirty days of boxing, where there were no rounds and leading up to him owning his own gym. Tell me you wouldn't watch that shit. Oh, I love it. You're so cute. That would be so awesome. I would totally watch it, bro. Totally. I would watch it, too. Mickey is one of my favorite characters. He's iconic. I mean, yeah, I'm not going to debate that. He was an old, angry man. I feel like we're talking about, when you talk about Marvel, when you talk about Indiana Jones, when you talk about Star Wars, you're talking about, I feel like it's like apples and oranges. Like, it's not the same. It's not the same. Like, Rocky was the Rocky franchise. It kept going. Yes, and if you cater to the hardcore fans by doing a Mickey story, are you kidding me? You got guaranteed. The reason why I say that is, and I'm not, okay, I'm just, I know I'm offending all the fucking Italian people like you that worship Rocky. Hey, Mickey's Irish. But there's something about the mystery behind characters in these crazy movies like Star Wars, like that you could take a guy like Mandalorian, who doesn't speak. That's why the prequels didn't land for me, because it was all trying to lead up to Darth Vader, like the big reason why Darth Vader became who he was. And I just felt like it didn't have enough. Like they just didn't nail it. So that's my fear of something like the Rocky, is that it's not a nut. Like, yes, that would be cool. Yes, I like the whole idea of that. But their character isn't intriguing enough that you could build a 12-part multiple season series. Mickey's not intriguing enough? No, not like a Mandalorian. Not like a Mandalorian. Not like a Loki. Not like something that you can build this crazy creative angle and twist. Listen, there's some pretty creative writers out there. If you disagree with Adam, leave a comment. Let him know what you felt. Bro, I want to see it happen. Of course. I want to see it happen, too. I'm just saying it's like, you're trying to make a leap comparing Rocky to the Loki and Star Wars. First of all, I'm a boxer. You should know that. No, it's different. It's a different animal, but I still want to see it happen. Yes, and I'm a boxing historian. And let me tell you, those early years of boxing, I love it, right? Self-proclaimed. Yes, I just couldn't say it, but thank you. I like the history of boxing. Bro, those early days of boxing, there were no rounds. In order to win, you essentially had to kill someone. Do you know some of these fights for like 50 rounds and they just beat the shit? And old Irish, these Irish immigrants. Well, this is how they settled debates. Yeah, and it was honor and whatever. But anyway, remember the stories you were telling Rocky? How the guy put the nail in his glove and punched holes into his face? Yep. Oh, see, I want to see those stories happen in real life. Oh, it would be great. I don't know. I'm going to make you a greasy, fast Italian tank. It could be really cool. You're going to eat. What does it say? Remember that movie, Far and Away? That was a great movie. It was a great movie. I mean, it could be kind of like that. That was it. Did you like that movie? You know, I vaguely remember. I know I've watched it. Remember Tom Cruise? Yeah. He was an Irish immigrant boxer. Yeah. And he's kicking away. It was a long movie, too. It was like three and a half hours. It was long, but I really liked it. Such a good movie. It's like one of those ones, it's like you have to watch it at least once, but I don't know if I've watched it more than once. It wasn't quite like a Rocky for us, you know, Irish people, but you know. It was OK. Come on, Tom Cruise. He's a good actor, but he's not a tough guy. He's short. No, he's short. He's like 5'5". It doesn't mean you're not tough. Pipsqueak. I know some short guys will keep that. A lot of 5'5' guys that are tough. Is Pipsqueak, is that social acceptable? That's when Nicole Keenman, she was, man, she was, I had a big crush on her. Remember that? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. She's nice to look at. Hey, real quick, I hope you're enjoying the podcast. Head over to mindpumpfree.com. Check out what we have for free to give away on that page. Lots of free stuff. Again, it's mindpumpfree.com. All right, enjoy this podcast. First question is from Wadjes88. If you have a hard time activating and focusing on your non-dominant side, should you be doing extra reps on that side? Not extra reps, but rather focus more on control, slow your reps down, and focus on stability, and use the weak side as the guide for the strong side. So in other words, that's the side that dictates the reps and the weight that you use. I'm confusing the question. They're asking, should they do the side that's weaker? Yeah, more reps. Trying to bring it up with reps. By the way, oftentimes the weaker side, sometimes it's actually has less muscle, but oftentimes muscle mass wise, they're almost the same. It's weaker because you're less connected to it. That's right. So focus on the connection to it, and you can totally do this. There's a famous story of God, who was this? Damn, who's the boxer? It was another boxer who he broke his right hand and had to practice with his left, and ended up becoming a great left-handed boxer as a result, because he always practiced with his left. So you can take your non-dominant side and bring it up quite a bit. You just have to slow down focus on the connection. I'm glad you picked this question, and that's good for us to kind of go on this tangent a little bit with this, because we have discussed this multiple times, and I think it was me originally who talked about like how I would solve this with clients, but something that we didn't address that you just brought up that I think is really important is the side that is less dominant, that feels technically weaker, it's a lot of times it isn't that. It's just, yeah, poor connection, or you have limited range of motion in that, and it's not necessarily a muscle thing, and part of it- Could be a postural thing, too. One of the things you got to be careful with, and we've said this, right, use the non-dominant side to dictate how many you do on the other side. But here's the thing, when I'm doing that, right, or when I, especially when I was doing this early on in my career, when I had discrepancy after left and right on bicep curls, is my right side that is less dominant, I could still get, let's say, you know, 10, but the last two were like sloppy looking, so it wouldn't, it's not going to help you very much to do eight really beautiful form, and then two sloppy ones, and then come over and get matched 10, because you're still playing into that, so it's so good that you brought that up because we haven't discussed the importance of that, that you need to stop it, the moment the form breaks down, that's the end of the rep. You have to be a lot more intentional with that, so it's not just about reps or just about catching it up, it's really about connecting to it and how to do that by setting up your body in good position and having good mechanics all the way through, and so just slowly going through that, squeezing a bit more, taking your time with it, maybe going slower with your reps too, and then whatever that side does dictates the other side. And then also, this also highlights, you should go in and whatever the closest joint is and address potential mobility issues there. So, and see if there is a clear discrepancy between left and right. I mean, I just shared that post from Andrew Spina, right? Is it Andrews? Andrew, so Andrew always says. Andrea, yeah. Andrea. We know who you're talking about. Andrea Spina, right? And I absolutely love his content. He did this post that said, if you have 60% capacity in your left hip and 40% capacity in your right hip, no amount of glute exercises is ever going to balance that out. Like you have to address your ability to control each joint equally. So, in order to balance the muscle out and keep yourself from shifting left or right in a squat. The same thing is true when we're talking about what we're talking about right now where there's a discrepancy left or right. If you have a one forward shoulder, it's going to affect the other shoulder as well. Yeah, your chest. Yeah, and there's this fear, I think, sometimes when people do this kind of unilateral training that they're going to lose their max performance in their barbell exercises. I learned this firsthand recently. I had stopped squatting for months because I had an issue with my SI joint on one side and my back was kind of starting to hurt. So I said, okay, I'm going to do four months of lunges and single leg exercises, essentially unilateral type stuff or split stand stuff, and then see what happens. And I did balance myself out quite a bit, went back to squats, and came out stronger. You know what's funny about that? Who cares, though, anyways? It's so funny, unless you're... I don't know, but who cares? To me, it's so funny that, unless you are a power lifter... Yeah, you're right. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you're right. Who cares? Who cares if my barbell squat did drop 200 pounds? It doesn't fucking matter. If you fixed an imbalance and you got strong doing Bulgarian split squats, that's a huge win, even if you lost 10% of your barbell back squat. And I really blame... This is one of the things I don't like. It's been a while since we've harped on CrossFit. The... When I remember when CrossFit got introduced to our space, before... I didn't know what a PR was. So I was a trainer for at least five, six years, never heard the term PR in my life. Didn't know what that was. Didn't know what... I thought it was public relations. That's what I thought. That's what I thought. That's what the PR agent. Yeah, I don't know. I did not... I've never heard... Did you guys remember hearing that before? I never heard that. Not the term PR max. No, it was max. Yeah, it was max. Yeah, and even then, a lot of people didn't talk about maxing out that often. It wasn't a common thing that you heard in the gym. It was just us bros. But it became very popular to be hitting PRs and talking about that all the time, that now everybody looks at that as their measure of success of like, oh, I moved my bench press or my barbell squat up. Well, if you moved your barbell squat up by 20 pounds, but you still have fucking shit mobility, or your ankles bothering you here, or your hip... Who cares? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And especially if you're the average person who just wants to look good, feel good, build a little muscle, lean out, you can do all of those things and lose your barbell back squat strength and still kick ass at all those things. So it's like, who cares? Yeah, the market for knee sleeves and elbow sleeves and all that, they care. Yeah. And Ben Gay. Yeah. Next question is from Demoose134. Can meditation help increase muscle gains? Yeah, absolutely it can. Okay, so why? Now, is there a direct effect? Not necessarily, but let's examine what meditation has a profound effect on. Stress, okay? Chronic stress, chronic moderate, low to moderate levels of stress. Raise cortisol. Cortisol in the short term produces energy, but in the long term eats away at muscle and promotes fat storage. It's a stress hormone. So it's burning energy, but also over time, it's going to make sure that you burn less calories, become more efficient, and store more calories as body fat because again, it's a stress response. Stress lowers testosterone. Decreases insulin sensitivity. Lowers growth hormone. Of course, it affects your sleep and the quality of sleep. Do all of those things have negative effects or affect muscle gains at all? Absolutely. So if meditation improves your quality of life and reduces your stress, then the effects are higher testosterone, better insulin sensitivity, lower cortisol, better sleep, and therefore the results of that will be you'll build more muscle. So obviously, there's tons of science to support this, that this is a fact. Now, what's tough, and Justin and I were talking off here about this the other day. Meditation? That I actually were. Justin was talking about how he just like is not my thing. Everybody thinks that you need to get in a quiet dark room and cross your legs, close your eyes and hum. You can walk and meditate. It's just about being present. You can fish and medic. Exactly. It's about being super-hyper-focused and present in the moment, in the now. Not stressing out about months before or what's to come, it's literally being in yourself in that moment and time and not allowing all these other distractions around you. And so that can look different for many people. And the practice of that is going, it's going to do a lot more than just build muscle for you. Building muscles is one of the, the byproducts of that, but it's also got tremendous value outside of that. Yeah. Creating that space where, you know, it's, it's this quiet intentional, you're in, you're very present. Like for me, like I was talking to him about this, it was, it was archery. And, and, and so that was something where I'm out in nature. I'm by myself, you know, I set up a target and I'm just kind of slowly mechanically going through the process of, of, you know, aiming. And then now I'm looking at it for quite some time. I'm trying to really like slow my heart rate down. I'm breathing really slow. I'm hyper focusing on in one direction. And it's just, for me, it's a practice. And so like I utilize that as breath control. I utilize that as, you know, being very like hyper focused in one thing. And, you know, everybody has their own way of kind of dealing with this. And there's, again, it's great to be able to kind of get to a place where you can, you know, kind of get in that meditative like space where you're anywhere. Like that's the ideal way to do it. But it for sure, in terms of like countering stress and, and bringing that down, we've seen so much result from that. And one of the clear examples of that was when I was up in Stanford and I was watching Corey Schlesinger when he was still there before he went to the Suns. And he had like every one of his athletes monitored with their stress. And he was able to kind of look at all their levels like all day long and in right programs that were very specific to what they needed based on what you know, what state of stress their body was in. And they got tremendous results. And ironically, the Suns are going to go all the way. There you go. Our boys killing it. So cool. It's one of the main reasons why I'm so consistent with working out. For me, it's so meditative. I literally, and this is why you guys see me when I come in here, even when we're all working out oftentimes, I'll put my headphones on. It's not because I prefer the music in my headphones than to the, in the gym. It's it blocks everything else out. It puts me more in that meditative state. 100%. And it's, it's the most meditative thing that I do. It makes me very present. I oftentimes don't think about anything else. So it's an hour of being present and has profound effects on me mentally and psychologically, which I know can will benefit me. So, and by the way, if you are on a health and fitness journey long enough, you're going to end up here. I'm telling you right now, you can focus all you want on nutrition. You can focus on exercise, then maybe you'll look at sleep. But at some point, you're going to get to this spiritual practice, which meditation would fall under, because at some point you're going to, it's going to lead you there because this actually is the root of most health. It's the root because as we're present, here's why I'm going to make sense of it. When you understand presence and how to be present and you've kind of, I don't want to say mastered that, but it's something that's a part of your practice. Your diet is naturally more balanced. Your workouts are naturally more balanced. Your sleep is much better. It actually contributes to everything in ways that everything else doesn't necessarily contribute to everything else. Next question is from Chai Latte. How do I get rid of shoulder winging? What sort of problems will I face if I don't address it? Let's talk about the problems first. The scapula and the way that it moves, right? The way that it retracts and elevates and rotates and wings and all that stuff is a very important part of shoulder function. When you look at the shoulder and your ability, if I were to reach up with my arm and prevent my scapula from rotating up, I'd be very limited with my movement. Any further movement requires scapular mobility, for example. It's a very important part of shoulder movement. If your shoulder blade is unstable, you will develop shoulder problems. Aesthetically, you'll develop muscular issues as well, but you're going to have shoulder pain and shoulder problems. Here's an easy way to work on this. Try this first because you want to do this without resistance before you start to do this with resistance. Practice a front lat spread. This is a pose in bodybuilding. This particular pose when bodybuilders make their lats come out, that movement requires the scapula to come in and come out. Rather than wing back, it's externally rotating and flattening out. Practice that. Once you can start to get that movement, then what you can do is you can put your hands up against the wall. You can bring your shoulder blades back and then round your shoulders into a lat spread. Just practice that movement, get that down, and then you can make the resistance more challenging by going on a decline and then, of course, on the floor. Yeah, I like that. And just scapular circles and just really adding tension to that. So we start building in that added support by being able to recruit the musculature around it. You did that in the webinar, right? Yeah. So that's the direction I would point you guys. I was smirking at Sal when he was talking about that because I've worked with a lot of clients that are higher level, trying to compete. So you're competitors. And one of the hardest things to teach somebody who's even been working out for 10 years and wants to come very hard is to teach a lat spread. So I'm over here laughing because I'm like, you just told our audience to like practice a lat spread, which is fucking hard to do for a lot of people. I find it very easy to do because we've been training this for a very long time. And I think it is a great way to help this. But if you've got somebody with a winging scapula or if you're an average person who's just really getting into fitness, learning to do a lat spread is one of the hardest poses for anybody to do. You're gonna have to learn it though. You can do all the scapula circles you want, but you're gonna have to learn that connection, that movement of spreading your lats or rounding the shoulders forward and flattening the scapula. You have to learn that. I mean, I like taking like a really light seated row and exaggerating the forward and the retract. Let it pull forward. Yeah. Let the shoulders completely roll forward and then completely roll back. Yeah. So a seated cable row, let the shoulders completely roll forward, which will give you that flare that Sal's kind of talking about, and then retract and roll back. And it's a lightweight. And then put emphasis on the both ends, right? So as I'm out, I'm gonna let it be stretched out for a few seconds, three to five seconds. Or reach out with it. Yeah. Right. And then after that, I'm gonna come back in and I'm gonna squeeze. And at the end, I'm gonna hold for three to five seconds. So create those, those isometric portions of the movement and do that with a weight that's relatively light. And you can do that with a band too. So bands work for this, but I think the cable is a great place to start. That's probably the place I would start somebody. Now, of course, I would love to get them to a place where I could have them stand and then be able to do that. I mean, have you guys worked with people who have winging? It's pretty common. It's one of the harder things to correct. It is. It's a very challenging thing to correct because connecting to that movement can be, you know, so damn hard. But once you get it, you get it. Yeah. And you have to, and the person should know this too. Like, you know, be ready for your bench and shoulder press and a lot of these movements that you're used to doing to probably regress a little bit to get good at that. Because you've probably got good at the, you know, as Sal talks about the hunt and peck method, you know, so your, your pattern of movement, if you've been exercising with a winging scapula for a long time, now trying to get you to, to move that correctly and, and then go do these exercises you're used to be ready for you to have to reduce weight and don't let that stop you from doing this. Next question is from spretzel 28. Is there any benefit in taking a non-stem pre-workout? So pre-workout that doesn't include stimulant? I'll tell you what, try. You do that more often than not, right? Well, no, I do these days because of the sleep the stuff. I'm caffeine. Before, before your son, I would say you, I'm on a Fedger now. But yeah, before your son, I'd say you almost always did non-stem. Yeah. So now I, Doug, I know is, is also a, Doug, probably the most now. Yeah. He, he requests that every time we try legion, non-stem, uh, pulse and tell me that you don't notice something. Now, is it going to be the same as taking caffeine? No, but, uh, the compounds in there, you definitely notice a difference in performance. There's other things you can do, by the way, to improve your performance that don't, are not stimulant. Like drink more water. Yeah. Like before you work out, drink more water. If you're somebody who has a low carb diet or a low processed food diet, drink a nice big glass of bottle of element. I was just going to say, I was going to push to the element. Yeah. Drink element, get that sodium in you because you're, you're probably needed. And then go work out. Is it technically how to say, because you say it all the time on the podcast, and I wonder how many people go online and go E-L-E-M-N-T. It's L-M-N-T, but element is what you're trying to say. Yeah. L-M-N-T is the company. So, and that reminds me why we're talking about this, because we have a large YouTube audience, a YouTube audience now that didn't know about the show before. One of the easiest things, so we talk about so many things that we work with and partners, if you go to Google and go and Google Mind Pump Partners, a link will pop up with every partner that we work with, all the discount codes on anything. So for the audience that doesn't know that, one of the easiest ways to find, it's on our website, but you have to kind of dig and look for it. Easiest thing to do is Google Mind Pump Partners and any company that we work with or talk about pops. I think some of the benefit by the way of taking something before you work out, so I'll tell you guys a story. When I was a kid and I started working out, I was into supplements immediately. I always thought it was this cool thing that could improve my performance and build muscle. And I was always studying and looking for ways. So anyway, back in those days, the only supplement, this is what I'm talking about. I'm 15. The only thing I had access to was in my parents cupboard and it was, what was it? It was a vitamin C packet. Emergency, I think it was called. Do you guys remember those? It's like a thousand milligrams of vitamin C. And I would take it before I work out. So, and I would definitely notice improvements in my performance. Now, it's not because vitamin C improves your performance, it doesn't, but it was the ritual of it. There's a lot, there's a lot to be said about ritualizing your actions before you work out, taking something like a pre-workout or glasses of water with sodium. Those actually have some benefits, but part of the benefit is also the ritual, like I'm preparing. I would almost make the case, their argument that majority of the benefits of a lot of supplements is placebo is simply that is, and I know this for myself, my clients, like, oh, I'm spending $200 a month on all these supplements. If I'm taking all of them, I'm going to be, I don't want to waste them. So, I want to make sure I'm working out. I want to make sure I'm eating better and stuff like that. So, I think that a lot of the benefits that you see from a lot of it. Well, that's how I feel, especially if you're asking about non-stem. To me, it's really, it's a belief system we're talking about now. Like, I believe this is going to work for me, unless you're like super deficient in some of those nutrients. I don't understand like what that really does for you. Well, did you, now, have you noticed, because I know Adam did it, but have you noticed the LMNT, are you taking that before it worked out? Oh, the LMNT for sure. Well, that's different because that should be deficient. You could be very deficient in sodium and also, yeah, retaining a good amount of water to help. I mean, we've talked about this on the show for a long time. By the way, by the way, real quick, sodium with creatine increases its absorption and utilization. Did you guys know that? I just learned that. So, sodium with creatine will make you utilize more of the creatine. Oh, that's interesting. You don't have to do sugar, you could do sodium. That's interesting. I mean, we've talked about this on the show for a long time that, you know, number one thing always is diet first with, before supplements. Supplements are such a small percentage of your results. And then before you get into performance supplements, build muscle, burn body fat, whatever type of supplements, always addressing all the essential things that you need, right? And non-essential even, like your macro micronutrients, if you're deficient anywhere. And by the way, those are the cheapest ones, okay? I know. To go pick up some vitamin D if you're lacking that or C or B, B vitamins, that stuff is cheap as fuck. So, it's super cheap to get that stuff. And that, that will do more for most people just by getting what you need that your body was wanting from you to operate optimally. You'll get great muscle building, fat burning, health, energy, all those benefits from getting all that balanced, then you will taking the latest, greatest fat burner, muscle builder, supplement that's on the market. So, you know, I always say there for food first, then after you are consistent with your food, where is it that I lack, you know? And that's why I think the sodium is such a game changer for so many people. That's an essential nutrient. Because, you know, the point that you make that's so true is that if you go from somebody who eats out and then you go on to a diet and you make a new lifestyle change to eating healthier just by you switching from eating fast food, which is crazy the amount of sodium that you get from fast food. And that's all fast food, even healthy like Chipotle and stuff like that. If you eat out a lot, super high in sodium, and then all of a sudden you decide you're going to start making your meals and making healthier, better choices. Even if you salt the shit out of it, it doesn't even come close to the amount of sodium they pack in it. So, real quick, you can become somebody who's eating healthy, exercising really well, but not getting enough sodium and you feel that stuff. I think that's why it's doing so well with this. I mean, LMNT is like for sure one of the number one things, which I would have never thought. But again, you probably take it and you feel it. You know, what's so funny too is that I'm sure you guys have experienced this. I've always recommended to my endurance athletes to add a little bit of salt to the water because they all notice the pink salt. Yes, and what's funny is I never applied it to myself, you know? And now that I deal, oh yeah, of course. Yeah, because I always associated it with endurance running, or some kind of long-winded workout. But if you're eating that way clean and you're trying to focus on whole foods that aren't processed or anything, it's a massive difference between what you're eating before to now. And speaking of micronutrients, I supplement with 5,000 to 10,000 I use a vitamin D a day. I get my blood tested relatively regularly and my vitamin D right in the middle. So it's very interesting where as some people we need more vitamin D and others not as much. I thought taking so much vitamin D at some point to have to reduce it. No, I'm right in the middle and I take a shit ton of it all the time. And that's because I do, you know, blood tests. Look, if you like our content and you probably do because we're awesome, head over to mindpumpfree.com. We got lots of free giveaways for you. Guides that help you burn body fat will help you build muscle, work on specific body parts. Again, it's mindpumpfree.com. You can also find all of us on Instagram, so you can find Justin at Mind Pump Justin, me at Mind Pump Sal and Adam at Mind Pump Adam. When I got out of prison, I was like, okay, I want to get back into the business. I want to open a nightclub. I want to do this. I want to do that. And even though I'm older, I was like 24, 25 at the time when I got out, a person, a young adult that hadn't really learned yet, if I'm still trying to get back into the same thing. Right. So months later, and when I did that, like it was a 10 or 12 hour interview with HP