 a barista named Jimmy dropped 56 points in a playoff game last night. Run it back. Starts now. Run it up. Run it back. Run it up. Run it back. Run it back. Run it up. Run it back. Run it back. Good Tuesday morning and welcome to the latest edition of Run it Back. Immediately I must introduce my friends and my colleague, Sean Shirania, Stadium Insider, Chandler Parsons coming to his live, the only one left on the West Coast I think and Eddie G there on the end from the East Coast. I know you can tell because he's the most miserable with the 7 a.m. start time. I get it. I get it. Guys, we are going to get to Jimmy Butler because it was a performance for the ages, but there was another game last night that was also including some performances that what is happening Grizzlies Lakers overtime the Lakers snatched this one 117 111. They lead that series. Oof. That's dangerous. 3-1 LeBron 22 points 20 rebounds first 2020 game in his career. That's it's actually odd to say at this point in the game, Bay finished with 36 and seven. He was listening. We're at 19 four and seven, but the whole focus right now of course has to be on LeBron James. The two old comments made by Dylan Brooks. Yeah. Feels like he might not be Chandler too old at all. Yeah. I mean, you got to consider the source here and here's the problem with me is there's a line of trash talking and competitive spirit and then just blatant ignorant disrespectful comment. And that's that's where Dylan Brooks took this and he's eating his words. LeBron is too old, but he's not dominating this series. He's playing much better than Dylan Brooks is. He has the two seed on the ropes down three and one. So this is where this is where it gets kind of dicey because this is where you become kind of disliked and not trusted and kind of a laughing stock because you can't say things like this and and then back it up with with better performances. So it's tough and LeBron could he be a little bit more aggressive offensively in this series for sure. And it seemed like he's making a point to get guys like Beasley involved and get guys like Rui involved and he's playmaking. But when it comes down to it, the end of regulation, he got to his right hand. He got to the hoop and he forced overtime. And then the same thing happened at the end of overtime. He's got the guy that's talking trash to him all series long. I think it's an one that basically puts the game on night. So to me, it's it's it's clicks. It's entertaining. It's it's great for us. But this isn't trash talking. This is this is immature is disrespectful and stupid. I'm not the biggest slaker LeBron fan, but he's doing, I think, exactly what the world wants him to do after hearing what Dylan Brooks is saying. So it's kind of a joke to me. I'll hate a little bit because I'm about to stand out because I was amazed last night. But yo, it's 20 years for LeBron to do this. What a slack like how does it take 20 years to get 20 rebounds? Mrs. DeFrito on the big end one typical LeBron stuff. But I tweeted yesterday, you kind of just have to be in awe. I don't care who you root for. I don't care who you think is the goat. I don't care what your grudge is. This is your 20. This is a lot of people. This is the leading scorer of all time. These are historic moments. This is the stuff they put on the highlight reel. This is the stuff they talk about in 20 years. Like whether we can see it or not, we're too in the forest to see the trees. This is what they talk about. They're going to talk about when he went up three one on the two seed with a game winner and another one to push it to overtime. We're going to talk about this forever. I'm with Chandler. He's been wildly conservative and I'm just confused about it throughout the game. And oddly, more trusting of his teammates than I think he's ever been. And the teammates in question are Austin Rees and Rui Hatimura and Jared Vanderbilt, but it's work. And whether he's pacing himself, whether he's still nursing the torn ligament in his foot or he's just old and tired, whatever it is. He turned it on when it mattered most. He played 45 minutes last night. He shot the ball well. He picked his spots and more than anything, he seems to be pacing himself. Maybe he's eyeballed this matchup and say, we have it and I only need this much. I only need to push the throttle that much. But it's it's fun to watch. It's fun to see they have a tall task for them if they win this series and whomever they get in the next series. But like I said, you kind of have to just enjoy this. Is this history in the making? It's been incredible to watch. Yeah, I mean, LeBron James' performance was was amazing. And honestly, he he needed his teammates a lot in the second half. When you think about Anthony Davis struggles for most of the game, five points in overtime. Daniel Russell, Anthony Davis and Dilo both shot 11 of 28 from the field. They both struggled at different points. And that's why you saw Austin Rees, 23 points, six assists, four rebounds. And it's it's really remarkable. You watch some of these Lakers games and they're they run better offensive. They're more fluid when Austin Rees is the ball in his hands. It makes you wonder he spoke to me a few weeks ago talking about how he feels like when the balls in his hands are more he feels more comfortable. How much longer can you know, like how much do you go without Austin Rees just being your full-time point guard? Again, with Daniel Russell there, he's going to be a guy moving forward. But he hits a few threes in the fourth quarter. That was big AD in overtime. But I mean, LeBron James oldest player in NBA history to have 15, 15 and five assists in a playoff game at 38 years old. It was a remarkable shot that he made and it was a remarkable efforts that he got when it mattered most in the second half. Chandler, everyone's sort of touching on it, right? That the role players who have stepped up LeBron, maybe not being as offensively strong as perhaps people expect him to be. But they can rely on this, right? I mean, so far this formula seems to be OK. Am I wrong? Yeah, I mean, he knows something clearly that we don't know. He's trusting his teammates. He's giving Austin Reeves the ball. He's making, you know, Daniel Russell, without those three big threes, they don't even have this chance to put the ball in LeBron James's hand at the end of the game. And the fact that they win this game with Anthony Davis going four of 13 with 12 points and kind of on the floor, every single possession thinking he's going to be hurt is really impressive. And LeBron, again, maybe he's saving himself. Maybe he's just kind of not wasting his energy on the offensive and as much being aggressive because he does look very, very passive at times. But that's always kind of been who he is, right? He's always been a playmaker. He loves he gets off by making the extra pass and playing unselfish. And he's just doing that way more now, but he still has the capability to go and get you 30 to go and get you 40. Clearly, he's still physically got the strength to get to the hoop to play high minutes. So whatever he's doing, I'm trusting because basically without their best player doing much last night, Anthony Davis, they still got the win and they still have the number two seed on the ropes down three and one. So it's hard to knock them when they're winning games. It's hard to knock them when they've had such a turnaround this season from the trade deadline to now. And now you look in the, you know, looking ahead, they're going to get a wholesome matchup, whether it's going to be with Golden State or Sacramento. That's better than Denver or Phoenix. So whoever they're going to face is in their favor because they're the two best teams in the West or the Nuggets in the Sun. And they do not have to see either of those to the Western Conference finals if they get past, you know, those three or 60. Yeah, I think this this recipe, there is something to it. If he can hold off, it reminds me of, I hate to say it, 98 Jordan. Mike would score a little bit in the first quarter and he would pace himself. And if you go back and watch the 98 finals, they talk about it endlessly. Isaiah Thomas won't shut up about it. He's pacing himself. He's not playing defense. He's waiting until the end of the game. And that's where this recipe came from. If LeBron can do that and if he can trust Austin Reaves and D'Angelo Russell to hit some shots. And I know Rui Hatsumori, he finally didn't shoot well yesterday and finally had a sneaker, but he's been great for them throughout this series. They just need a few guys to pick up the slack. Now, like Chandler mentioned, one of those guys does need to be Anthony Davis and get a couple of big shots late in that game as well. But they just need a couple of guys to just carry them throughout throughout the game. And LeBron can sprinkle in some stuff here and there. But if he's healthy and he's ready at the end of the game, this is what you can get. And it's not going to work every time, but it's been tried and it's been proven. And it worked last night and they have the Grizzlies on the ropes. And a lot of people thought the Grizzlies were going to take them out and they have the Grizzlies on the rope and the Grizzlies look frustrated. And that over time, they look tight, they look nervous. Desmond Bain was passing a wide open threes. He missed two wide open corner threes. There was a lot going on. And it looks like this series is over to me. Yeah, it doesn't look great. Chandler mentioned the fact that they could possibly get past the Grizzlies, the Warriors or the Kings. Should that be what happens here? But I mean, Eddie, how far do you think this Lakers team can get? I think the matchup they'll see in the next series is tough for them. That is one thing I disagree with Chand. Those two teams play so fast and the Lakers like to be this prodding team on offense and they like to sit down on defense and they like to pound the paint. And so they want to play like an older style of ball. And those two teams are going to run, run, run, and they're going to shoot often and early. And I think it's tough for them. Now, can they lock in? Can we get another level of LeBron? Can Anthony Davis dominate the paint against both of those teams? Absolutely. I think, especially the Kings. We've seen the Kings get bullied in the paint for four games now. And it's only getting worse. I obviously think they would prefer the Kings and their inexperience. And all and obviously with the Air Fox is handbroken now and everything going on over there. But come on, we all want to see the Warriors match up. We all want to see Stephanie LeBron one last time. We need that. The NBA needs that. The script they got going on right now, it's it's incredible. So if they get that series, it might be a short one, but it'll be a dramatic one. Thank you for referencing the script because it does exist. And clearly we are seeing it happen right now. Like I want to concentrate on the Grizzlies for a second because so much rightfully has been made about Dylan Brooks and how much he's shot his mouth off. We all know about John Moran's season that he's had. Neither one of those guys want to talk to media now. Dylan Brooks, just simply I'm out. Do we have a problem with that, Chandler? Yeah, I think that's the most pathetic part of it all. Honestly, the good and the bad, you show up and you be professional, especially when you're this team and this dude, you're talking like they do. You have to man up and you have to face the music, whether you hit a game winner and you have 30 or you clamp LeBron after everything you've said with the game online. Or if you have a stinker left like last night and you play bad and you lose, it's part of your job and you have to you have obligations that are uncomfortable sometimes. But this isn't right and this isn't professional. And this is things that you can't do. But this has been this team all your long. They've created this bad boy image, this, this, you know, tough trash talking team right at the end of the day. You're still a professional. You're still an NBA player. You're still role models to kids that are watching you. You have an obligation when you win, you do media and you talk trash. When you lose, you have to go and you have that responsibility as well to kind of explain yourself and answer questions. And it's going to be uncomfortable and it's going to be awkward. And it's you're going to feel a little silly when you when you say the things you say and they don't go your way. But it's part of the job. It's part of being an NBA player. So you can't do this. And then the playoffs, too, you got to at least give him some time and answer some questions. Yes. Yeah, John, not speaking. I don't I don't know what that's about. I don't know that I need to hear Joss say his hand hurts or he's upset about the loss. He clearly is. But Dylan Brooks, this is the bed you made. You know, I see people debating about his character and all this stuff all day long. He wanted this. He's shown up with no shirt on. He's shown up dressed like Stone Cold. He's he's telling us everybody stinks, who is actually incredible basketball player. He's telling us to go to is too old and he can't bother him. And all this down three, one, you got to answer for that. You had to answer for it face to face. If you watch that combo, Dylan Brooks didn't say much face to face. And it's been that way. You know why I love Dremont Green? Because Dremont Green will be talking to the media right now. Dremont Green will be doing a podcast right now. Dremont Green will be explaining why he's an idiot. As a matter of fact, he did. He explained everything that happened to him with Don't My Subonus and told us all of it when he loses, when he wins. That's a villain. Like you just own it, you keep going, you you you man up. And funny enough, those guys had their own spat over the year. And if Dylan Brooks gets traded away this summer, which some people are guessing, he might Dremont won the war. He won the battle, the war. He won everything. But yeah, Dylan, you got to face the music, especially if you end up losing this series, you can't skip media again. You got to sit there and say, hey, either I stand by it or I messed up or whatever, whatever you feel. But to skip media three days in a row, that's a little embarrassing. I mean, look, I get I hear it all the time about Kevin's friend and all this stuff. Chandler hears about his contract all the time. And he, you know, just just joke back, just laugh back. Just take the L and move on. Like it was I was actually surprised. And maybe he's not built for the persona he created. But you can also bummer. That's the bummer because I feel like I was supporting it. Yeah, you could just see last night. He's kind of backtracking a little bit, right? He's not talking as much trash. He's not playing as physical. He's not getting into it with fans. He did the interviews saying that the media is making him this villain. So you can kind of tell he's eating his words a little bit. But we'll see how he acts in Memphis coming up. It's such a bummer, dude, because I feel like if you're going to be a heel, you have to lean in. And now it just seems like we're setting up for some weak character turn that nobody wants, by the way. How many more wins left in this team, if any, Chandler? I could see them battling at home, right? Like I think they are gritty. I think they're young. I think they're not just going to lay down for this team. And I think when you look at them, like they've had a great season. They're off there and they're a two seed for a reason. They need more games at a Desmond Bain like last night. They need John Morant healthy, but they do. They need they need Jaren Jackson to be more aggressive offensively. They need Dylan Brooks to find a way to shoot 50% from the field and knock in some jumpers. They need Luke Canard making three. They need a lot of stuff from a lot of people, but I don't expect them to just lay down. I expect this game this next game to be exciting. I expect to be physical. I wouldn't be surprised if the Grizzlies did get one more and took it back to LA. But when you look at it, the series has been dominated by the Lakers, but I'm ready for the next game. All right, Shoms, the Grizzlies lose this series. What do they need to do? Well, I think we've been talking kind of about the Grizzlies moves and projecting what they could do. They offered a handful of first-time picks to the Brooklyn Nets for Kevin Durant last summer. And I think when you look at what they've got now and who they've gone after, McKell Bridges is a name they went after during this season, last off season, offering three, four first-time picks, four Bridges. That's not a deal I think the Nets would do right now. But when you think about guys that you can go get, you know, a three, four in your lineup that you can bring in that can play both ends of the floor. I do think Memphis, they want to, they want to build around this young group of guys that they have, Jon Morant, Jared Jackson Jr. Clearly, these guys are your future Desmond Bain. But can you add another piece with this group? How much more time do you give this current group as constructed to try to make these playoff runs year after year? But their position, they've got the flexibility. They've got the draft capital. They've got what it takes to be aggressive in the marketplace. We'll see if they want to be that way. What about? Yeah, it's easy for. Go ahead. It's easy to forget. They were winning that game late. I mean, it took some incredible heroics from LeBron to win that game. They were even, I think they even went up in overtime. They were pretty well in control of that game. I don't expect them to lay down. But if they lose this series, you know, Shams are right. They have to think about it this summer and the type of wings that'll be available. I mean, a lot of people were monitoring the Clippers and wondering what happens there. I mean, Paul George on this team for the right price. That's interesting. I mean, you know, we don't know where it's going to go. But they were competitive last night. They've been competitive of all series and job looks healthy enough. He's dunking on people. He's doing all kind of stuff. They're not going to lay down at home. They're just not. But the Lakers know that if they wrap this up now, they have an opportunity to sit back, rest and get ready for the next round. So they're going to be ready to. Yeah. And let's not get it twisted. Their future is still very, very bright. Like they just touched on. They have an absolute star in John Morant. They have the defensive player of the year, Darren Jackson. I love Desmond Baines. They have a lot of pieces. They have all their picks. They are just one piece away from from actually being a contender and going to get a championship. So this series will leave them a sour taste in their mouth. If they do lose for one after having a great season being the 2C, but the future is still very, very bright. What if they get rid of Dylan Brooks and add Draymond Green? Should Draymond Green not sign in Golden State? OK, fine. I found this on the web for this series. We'll leave them a sour taste in the mouth. If they do lose 41 after having a great season be a. Sorry about that. First of all, first of all, I would listen to that show for an hour. And that was amazing. Hello, Siri. Good morning. She liked my idea. Look, we've we've gone 17 minutes and we have not spoken of the man who really just he did some work last night. Jimmy freaking Butler, 56 points in a huge win for Miami. They were actually down 14 in the fourth quarter. They come back beating the Bucks by five. They have a three one series lead in that one. Yanis did play, of course, he did finish with a triple double. Brooke Lopez also strong, but it's all about Jimmy Butler in this one. And this is why people love him so much, Chandler. How impressed were you by this performance? It was unbelievable. And it was one of the greatest individual performances I've ever seen. And when I'm watching this game in the beginning, especially in the first quarter, this game could have got ugly really, really quick in the first quarter. And Jimmy singlehandedly kept them in in the beginning, all the way up and to the end. The fact that he's tied the fourth best scoring performance ever in NBA playoff history is shocking. And it's not just how he did it. He was hitting crazy mid range shots. He was getting to the free time. He was also defending and he was playing so hard. You could just physically see him exhausted and he legitimately singlehandedly won this game against arguably the best team in the playoffs all year long. So it got to give him his flowers. It is. It's it's crazy that we're just now talking about this because this should be the story and everyone laughed when he said, like, I don't try during the regular season and playoff, Jimmy. Now he's saying perhaps he's not a thing. This was unbelievable. And it's hard for me to never not trust him again after what he did last night against that team, who was a very, very good defensive team who has size, who has depth, who has quickness. They have a lot of pieces that can guard Jimmy Butler. And they absolutely could not guard him last night. So it was one of the greatest performances I've ever seen. And this is another story. The eight seed has the one seed down three to one. Like who would have thought this? Who would have thought this was happening? And then again, looking forward, then they get the Knicks or the Hawks, too. So it's kind of lining up for them, just like it is for the Lakers. And it has everything to do with Jimmy Butler. Who to thunk it, Shams. It's one thing to say, oh, this is one of the best performances. But this actually was, right? No question. And when I watched Jimmy Butler last night, I think he wanted to prove that he was the best player on the court last night. He was hunting the best defenders. He wasn't scared of Drew, Drew Holiday, Janice and Ticumpo, Chris Milton, Brooke Lopez, whatever defender that they wanted to throw at him. He just was not scared. 56 points in the most impressive thing on 19 of 28 shooting. And here's the stat. Only LeBron and Michael Jordan have averaged 35, five and five on 50 percent shooting or more in the playoffs. Jimmy Butler is doing it on almost 63 percent shooting. He's doing it efficiently. He's doing it on both ends. He's exhausting himself. And this is a guy in Jimmy Butler who didn't have another teammate score 20 points or more last night. So he had to pick up a lot of the burden in order to will this team's not only last night's win, but this three one series lead. You have to give Jimmy Butler a lot of the credit. Kyle Lowry came up big in some clutch moments last night, bam out of bio. He did what he's always going to do, be reliable, be able to get on the court and play, be available, even though he was playing through a hamstring injury. So you have to give Jimmy Butler the credit. I think he was trying to go out there, prove a point. He proved that point. He was the best one in the court last night. Although, Janice did play. He was moving a little gingerly on that back. And I think mobility and how he's going to move and range of motion is going to be I think we have to continue to monitor with him. But shout out, Jimmy Butler, for sure, the best player last night. Yeah, Eddie, you want to say anything to or about Jimmy Butler? Yeah, we need to hear. We need to hear. It's got to be loud, Eddie. Yeah, I got a gigantic bowl of crow over here, whatever that is. I'm going to have to eat that. Reggie Miller said during the telecast, it's one of the greatest heat performance of all time. And I kind of laughed at that. Like, yo, I seen the bronze score 40 in the finals and games that what do we talk? But then I sat back and thought, like, it's wasn't ridiculous. Then the fourth high scoring playoff game of all time. This is not what you would expect from Jimmy Butler exactly. But he kept telling us and he was right. And playoff, Jimmy is a thing that exists. I don't care if he says it does it in the post game press conference or not. That was absurd. The types of shots he was making, the timeliness of them. He walks up and hits back to back threes just in a crowd. The and one he had, like, I literally stood up and like he helped. I couldn't believe the second three he hit in the fourth quarter. I'm honestly speechless. I have nothing to do but to tip my hat. It's it's insane. If he pulls this off, he's a historic playoff performer. There's no way around it. Like these are the things you think about when you wonder, like, yo, is Jimmy Butler a Hall of Famer? And you remember stuff like this. And I also want to say, you know, I understand his back is hurt and I understand their defensive strategies for him to be off ball and help and crowd the lane and do all this stuff. But at some point he has to pick up that matchup, right? Jimmy's doing a lot of this in ISO. He's not necessarily using screens to do all this stuff. And maybe he does if he's on Yanis. But at some point, I know the back is hurting, but Jimmy's over there. He, like Chandler mentioned, I don't think I've seen an NBA player look that tired in some time and he still kept at it. At some point, Yanis has to go out, set the water off because we're going to lose. And I was shocked that they didn't. And he just let all those guys out there die slowly, but surely. But I could not be more impressed. One of the greatest historic performances of all time in the playoffs. And, you know, he might need another one to do it to finish this series. But if they do this, the matchup at this is looking way more favorable. And if he takes this team to the Eastern Conference finals, I mean, you got to start asking some questions after that. What? Like, how are we even here, Chandler? I mean, look, Yanis didn't want to talk either about it. I don't know if he's in more pain than perhaps he's letting on. Who knows? But as far as loss and how deflating this one is down three, one after such a season. It's deflating it just because how the game started, how they got a big lead and Jimmy literally just brought them back and how they're up 14 or 15 points in the fourth quarter and allowed Jimmy to basically go on this heater without throwing a double team and without Yanis kind of taking this this defensive role and shutting off his water. So it's deflating from that point that they look back and they had this game and they literally lost on a great all-time individual performance. But also you have some confidence, too, that it took, you know, all 56 of his points to get this win. And you got 14 points from both True Holiday and Chris Middleton that were wildly inefficient from the field. So I expect them to be better next game. I expect them to kind of clap back and bring it back to Miami. And then who knows, but it's hard to talk about anything other than how Jimmy just dominated. And you hear coaches all the time say play till exhaustion, right? Like that's like a big saying in the NBA, you don't really see it very often. You could physically see Jimmy Butler played as hard as he possibly could on both ends of the ball. He would sub out of the game for about a minute of time and he would just go check himself back in. He wanted to be on the floor. He knew he couldn't be stopped last night. And he literally beat this team by himself. So it's crazy to talk about that. I don't think the Bucks, again, like the Grizzlies, I don't think they're just going to lay down. They're way too good of a team. The health of Yanis is very concerning. But go win this next game and then it gets interesting. So we'll see what happens. But man, this was an all time great performance. Yes, Shams. Are we thinking we'll see Yanis throughout the rest of the series? However long that is. I mean, he's back now. It would be tough for him to start sitting games, especially with the team on the brink of elimination. But I think when you watch him play, when you look at how he was moving, it's crazy. He'll still put up a triple double and how much he'll impact the game. Even though it clearly looks he's not 100% on that back. And I know the big thing around the Bucks was managing his mobility, his range of motion over the last week or so after that injury on April 16th, when he landed hard on that back, I think it created some spasms in that back. And so anyone that's dealt with the back issue knows that it can come and go. You can have good moments. You can have tough moments. And I think for Yanis, it's it's getting to the point where treatment on off days, you're able to manage it and you're able to be on the court because you can just see even when he's moving gingerly, he has a big impact on the court. But taking back to what Eddie said about Yanis and his defense, it's it's interesting. This is like deja vu for me. I was in the bubble in 2020. I saw Jimmy Butler and the Miami Heat do basically the same thing to the Bucks in the second round against Milwaukee. And everyone was asking then as well. Jimmy Butler is dominating this on this court right now. He's averaging the most points. Why isn't Yanis guarding in one all one? I think that's just the defensive strategy that this Bucks team has has has gone with, right? Under Mike Boonholzer, Yanis playing this free safety type of defense right or wrong, but that's how they've they've managed it in 2020. When I saw it live and tonight last night as well, some things never change. Right now, the Bucks are plus one twenty eight to win the series. It's so daunting to say out loud, Eddie, that you have to win three straight. Can this Bucks team do that? They can, because at the end of the day, they are the better team. And I think the injuries that have piled up for the heat, they they're crippling. And you need these type of performances to beat these team. The Bucks had this game in hand. They were they were pretty well strategically everything. They were doing what they needed to do. Even what they clearly hampered, Yanis, even with Chris Middleton, who was very so so last night and same thing for Joe Holiday, who was showing that he's not like he had the greatest game. They had this game in hand. They had multiple opportunities to win it late. They needed a legitimately historic performance to lose it. And that's what happened. So you got to feel comfortable going home. The problem is that you have to do this three straight times. And as we know, a three one comeback is historic. And it does not happen very often. And we're looking at two and maybe three series where we're like, hey, could they actually do this? But if anybody's the favorite to do it, I would say that it's the Bucks because they are the best team in the league this year. And they do have home court advantage and they do are they are the better team. And they are the healthier team, even with Yanis's issues. So can they? Yes, will they? They got to win that game six in Miami. And and and with the way it looked last night, I don't know. I don't know. We'll see. Daunting, just such an uphill battle. Taking a quick break here. Shams has been very, very busy. When we come back, we get the latest on Kawhi Leonard, Dejante Murray and De'Aaron Fox, when Run It Back returns. Welcome back to Run It Back. This is the first round of these NBA playoffs has had a lot of big name injuries, one that I think bummed me out probably the most is the one we heard about yesterday. Shams, De'Aaron Fox, talk to me. So De'Aaron Fox has a fractured left index finger that's his shooting hand, shooting hand. It's the very tip of the finger from what I'm told. That's where it's the most painful, the most unbearable, the most difficult as you, you know, if you're De'Aaron Fox, you're going to have to dribble the ball a lot, shoot the ball a lot, be in traffic a lot. So they will list them as doubtful to play on Wednesday in game five. I'm told he will try to play. I think that there's an expectation we'll see today at practice, how that that hand and that finger feels. But this is not, you know, there's no str... This team isn't strangers to playing through injury. De'Aaron is playing through a fracture in his wrist, you know, in his thumb. So this is, this is a team that's played through a lot this year. We'll see if De'Aaron Fox can make it back. OK, Chandler, I mean, he's obviously a vital part of this team. Can the Kings beat the Warriors without him? Can they? Yes. I obviously now I like the Warriors, but this is tough. And I think with this injury, this is something he has to at least try, right? He's got to go out there. This isn't going to get much worse if he has to have surgery after the season. So be it if he plays in a game and, you know, takes a ball off it or jams it again, he's going to fix it. He's got six months or five months or so to rest and rehab anyway. So I think just the fact that he can still try and play will give this team a boost and it's going to take a huge game from, you know, guys like Kevin Herter and Monk and Davion Mitchell is going to take a collective effort because this guy's been their best player all season long. He's been the most clutch player. So it definitely presents a huge challenge for them. But this is a type of injury where it's not something torn in his knee. It's not something it's not, you know, a foot or an ankle. This is going to be tough because it is a shooting hand. And every time he's dribbling the ball or passing or catching the ball, it could hurt. But I would love to see him at least try and then go give it a go and see if it happens to get worse or if it hurts too bad that he can't. But this is a situation for him to really show up, show his toughness, show his character and show who he is by at least just playing through this. Even if it's for five minutes, give this team a little to get out there and try and play tonight tomorrow. Yeah, I'm with Chandler like I think he's going to go out there. I think he's going to give it a shot. Luckily for them, this is a medical staff has dealt with something similar, not obviously not the same fracture, but a shooting hand that you have to nurse and have to deal with. And like Chandler said, if it's a situation where it's not going to get worse, it's just going to hurt. You got to try it. People are bringing up Kobe doing the same thing and every fracture isn't the same, but they need him. And it's just shooting and he's been shooting great. And and it's going to he's going to fill it all night. And he's going to know it. And every time he falls and get swiped at or shoots the ball, he's going to know that that's there. Whatever that fracture is, even if it's this tiny, he's going to know it's there. But they need him. And this is the biggest game in the franchise in almost 20 years. And they need this game because if they lose this game and they go back to San Francisco down three to with the chance for the chance to get him out of there that after being up to that's not where you want to be. So they need them. They need him to step up. And I think he's going to, you know, know nothing. I think he's going to. And but more importantly, they need their roleplayers to step up. They need something from Kevin Herter. They need a better game from a league month. They need more from DeMona Sabonis. They need they just need to be better. They were a shot away from going up three one. And now they might be a fracture away from just losing this series, which is unfortunate, but I expect them to go out there and they need them. And this is this is an injury to where he can override the medical staff. This isn't career threatening. This isn't seizing ending for next year. You know what I mean? So this is something that he could say absolutely not like I'm playing in this game. So I looked, I look forward to seeing him do that. I hope so. What that series just took a weird turn. Another series that stopped being compelling is, of course, Clipper Sons and Kawhi Leonard, Shoms, the latest. Yeah, Kawhi Leonard will be out for game five. This is going to be his third straight game missed tonight. And so Tyler spoke yesterday, which was interesting. He actually alluded to the fact that this isn't load management. This has to be a serious injury for Kawhi Leonard to be out. We don't know the extent of this knee injury, but for Kawhi Leonard to be out these playoff games, they've spoken about swelling, about some sort of pain in that knee is just not a good sign. It's unfortunate because this Clipper's run since Kawhi Leonard signed there in 2019, they've only had one healthy playoff run with both Kawhi and Paul George that came in 2020 in the bubble. We know that that ended in a second round series loss against Denver right before the conference finals. So this is a team right now that it'll be curious to see how they handle the summer. Are they in the same position as the Pelicans with Zion kind of knowing and figuring out how do we get these two guys on the floor when it matters most because clearly there's some level of a problem here with them staying healthy when it matters most. Only one healthy playoff run together. It's just tough as a basketball fan for sure. Yeah, that's that's tough as as anybody who even wants to watch fun basketball channel or the injuries do happen. Is this something more? But you never know, right? Because the injury history he's had, they could be just kind of not telling us everything. And it's a shame because Kawhi Leonard has looked back, right? He's looked better than he ever has going down the stretch of this season and into this playoffs. And that's always been the big question with this Clipper's team is can they stay healthy? And the answer has just simply been no this year and you're going to see them lose to the Phoenix Suns. There's probably a better team anyways than what they're loaded, but this is a whole different series of when you plug in a healthy Paul George when you plug in a healthy Kawhi Leonard, but it's tough. This happens. It's part of the game. I understand it. This is this is a situation where it's not like Darren Fox's finger, right? That can't get worse. That's not going to hurt him from next year. He's younger than Kawhi Leonard. Kawhi Leonard's had knee issues before. So this is a little more fragile of a situation and fans just see that he's always hurt and they're going to call himself. That's also not fair. This is part of the game. This happens, but we don't know the magnitude of the injury, so it's hard to speculate, but this is just tough because this would have been probably the most competitive series. Two of the better teams in the first round happened to match up and it hasn't been that exciting just due to injuries. So it's a tough break. You feel for Kawhi Leonard if it is something serious. Obviously also got a lot of personal stuff going on, but this is just a tough break for the Clippers and for him because this series could have been a lot of fun. I mean, look, the Clippers are probably front and center all season long when we talked about load management. It's a topic that actually makes people angry and they get heated. But the argument for load management is you do it so that this time of year comes around and everybody is at peak performance ready to go and healthy. Obviously that's not where we are right now. And he's not the only superstar name that we've seen on the injury report in this very quick first round of the playoffs, Eddie. So season's going to come around next year and we're going to talk load management again. Does this put a dent in the argument that it works? I think it does. And I think that's the problem when we talk about shortening the schedule or stretching the schedule out or getting rid of back to backs. And we've seen guys break their legs in half on the very first game of the season. We've seen this happen. We've seen guys fully healthy and just take a bad fall and the playoffs injuries happen. This is sports. This is the I think the hardest it's ever been to play NBA basketball. You're asked to do more than you've ever been asked to do on offense and defense. Just the amount of cutting, just the amount of recovering, some amount of changing directions, just the speed they're asking you to play at. It's never been this fast. It's never been this active. And so you have situations like this and then you have guys like Kawhi who just have had debilitating injuries throughout their career. And Chandler knows and we've all turned our ankle. We've all had issues. Yes, your body recovers and your body gets back to quote unquote a hundred percent. But that trauma is still there. That damage is still built up. Whatever happens to you physiologically, it still matters. And to have this much damage to the same knee, it's frustrating. And so, yes, we could have sat Kawhi until March and then this happened because he bumped knees with somebody or however this issue happened. And we could have put Giannis in a bubble all the way until the first round of the playoffs and he could have failed and hurt his back in the same way and the same thing with John Morant and on and on and on. So injuries are unfortunate. They are a part of the game. I think the game is just played at a speed and a pace that's never been played at before. And these are the greatest athletes in the world and even their bodies can't hold up to it. And so, you know, load management, I get the science of it, but then you watch this happen. And as a fan, you sit there and go, well, I mean, I guess he could have played that back to back way, right? So I'm with you, Michelle. Like it does put a little dent in it. I just want these guys healthy. And I don't know if there's a right answer to figuring it out. Just want to see these guys healthy. Want to see the playoffs play out the right way. Same. I know it's look, it's obviously a bigger deal to the guys who are suffering the injuries, but for the fans and everyone excited about these series, it's, it's a cloud. Shams, we left the show yesterday wondering what was going to happen to Dijonte Murray for the little bit of a body check that he decided to run up on a ref with and they've made their decision. Suspended one game. He will not play tonight in their potential season, you know, ending game in game five tonight in Boston. They're down through one of the series. So the NBA rule that he suspended one game because of, you know, inappropriate contact, also verbal abuse of the referee. We saw him clearly make contact and anytime you make any level of contact, Grant Williams got a one game suspension for what looked like incidental contact, very light contact with the referee earlier this season. There's a president pretty much set there. So Dijonte Murray, it's unfortunate. I'm curious, Chandler, if you're in that locker room, how do you feel when one of your leaders, got like Dijonte Murray, when this happens, you chalk it up as a guy showing emotion or how do you feel when one of your leaders, you know, gets suspended in this moment? Well, you're pissed off because you're on the brink of elimination and he's, you know, one of your top two players and this is why you brought him for series like this for playoff to, you know, survive in advance and now he's not available to play. It goes with everything we've ever talked about with the Dillon Brooks, with the Draymond Graham, you know, as feisty, as competitive as you want to be, there has to be a balance where you still keep your head and keep your sanity and don't put yourself in these situations to not be available for your team. And the NBA, they had to suspend him. I said this yesterday, this sets the tone that you can just go and you can touch a ref and you can threaten him or you can do whatever you want. You can't do this. And the refs are human beings. They're gonna make mistakes. It's the worst job in the world, right? It will, no matter what time they blow that whistle, there's 15 people pissed and there's 15 people happy. And so you can't make every call correctly. That's why there's the replay. That's why there's views. And I agree as a player, I used to get so pissed off when they missed a call, especially in the playoffs or when the game mattered on the line. And you swear that one player, that one call has everything to do with the outcome of the game. You have to be bigger in the moment and you have to be more mature than this. And now they're going into Boston, you know, with or without Murray in this game. I don't think they really have a chance anyways, but now it's just a nail in the coffin. And, you know, here comes summer and we'll see what they do with their plans for next year. But you can't do this anytime, especially, you know, a game coming up with the magnitude that could possibly end their season. I mean, touching a ref, Trey Young gets all that heat, but that's just stupid. That is just stupid. We're not done yet. Up next, Shams with more scoops, more scoops than Baskin Robbins. And that's right. I said that line out. Danny owes me $5. We'll run it back. Return. Run it off. Run it back. Yeah, yeah. Run it off. Run it back. Run it off. Run it back. Run it off. Run it back. Run it back. Oh, that's right. Shams ain't done yet. We've got more news. Coaching news. Finally, Rockets made a hire, Shams. Yime Yudoka, the new head coach of the Houston Rockets. We know what happened with the Celtics. He was essentially terminated from his role during an improper workplace relationship last season. So he's done in Boston. He now goes to Houston. And the Rockets targeted Yime Yudoka pretty early in this coaching search process. They talked to Frank Vogel. Talked to James Brago, Sam Cassell, a few other assistants around the league as well. But they've really targeted Yime Yudoka as the guy that can come in, change their culture. And when you look at this team, they've got flexibility. They're going to have 60, 70 million in cap space. They could have a chance at Victor Webonyama with the number one overall pick. We're going to get a high lottery pick, regardless battling it out with your Spurs, Michelle. But this is a team in Houston that feels like with Yime Yudoka, they're going to be able to track free agents, go out there, and be a team that people will want to play for. And Yime does have a great reputation among players around the league. What an awkward conversation that must be. All right, Yime, we're going to do this. But you know the deal. You know the deal, Chandler. Any expectations for this young Rockets team under Yudoka? I mean, look, he's the best coach available. I think his track record on, you know, as far as coaching goes, speaks for itself. And he's a likable guy in the locker room. Players play hard for him. It just shows you if you can actually be a good coach and you could win games, you know, we'll look the other way on the other stuff and desperate times call for desperate measures. So it's interesting. I mean, I guess he paid the Viper and set almost a year and now he's getting another opportunity. But you know, hopefully this works out for him and he's grown from his situation in Boston and he's got a lot of work to do here. They're not very good. They don't really have that many pieces that I like moving forward, but they do have youth. They have some talent. They're going to have a high pick. So we'll see what he can do with it. But this is going to be a process and this is a job he's taking that's know it's going to take some time. He's going to be there for a while. But hopefully it gets the Rockets back on their feet because it is a good organization. It's a great city. And we'll see what they can do this summer. Yeah, for all the talk about Stephen Silas not being able to connect with the players. Emil Odoka is a player, is a coach that is going to do exactly that. He's going to connect with Jalen Green with Kevin Porter. He's going to lock in with those guys and build camaraderie there. And that's exactly what they need as they look forward to what they're trying to do with this roster. And they're going to have a great pick. And there's always rumors about a former MVP heading back home and playing back with them again. And so they do have a bright future. And I think they have the right coach now to do that. But this isn't what he had in Boston. This isn't a ready-made contender. This isn't a couple of all-stars on the wings. This isn't a perfect situation. So he's going to have to show his coaching meadow. And I think he will. I think Emil is on his redemption path. And he's got a great opportunity to do that here now. I mean, it seems like a month ago shams, but we also learned over the weekend that Nick Nurse was out in up in Toronto. What led to that? Well, it's something that we've talked about at different points this season. I think there's a lot of frustration within the roster, within management. And some of that critique and criticism went to Nick Nurse. And when you have a team with Pascal Siakam, Oja Nubi, Fred Van Vleet, Chris Boucher, Yaakapurto, Gary Trent Jr. coming off the bench. These are high-priced guys. And this team did not live up their expectations. They did not even make the playoffs. They lost in the playing tournament game as a favored 9-10 seed. So I think for Toronto, Nick Nurse had been there 10 years, five as a head coach. He won a championship there. I think he accomplished a lot. He's one of the highest-paid coaches in the league at $8 million per year. And so they ate that money for next season. And right now he's going to be in the marketplace as a head coach, as one of the top guys on the market. We'll see if other jobs open up depending on how the playoffs go. But for Toronto, it was what Basie Masayih Jury spoke to the other day. They feel like they needed a new voice with this roster. Chandler, if you're Nick Nurse, what's a good destination? I mean, honestly, this is like Chandra said, this isn't necessarily Nick Nurse's fault, right? Like this is just, they just need to change it up. They need a fresh face. This is the second time they've done. This guy was a coach of the year, as well as Dwayne Casey. So I don't know what expectations they, maybe fire the GM, maybe look other ones in the coach because this is a very talented team and they did not exceed expectations at all. And I would have thought this team would have made a little run in the playoffs, but Nick Nurse is a great dude. He's a great coach. I think he's now the best available coach that Yudoka's gone. And so I look for him to get hired as early as this summer because he's that good of a coach. He's that good of a dude. And it just, it didn't work out this year and then in Toronto. And again, this isn't, I don't think this solely falls on him. I think when you have a season like this, someone's got to be the fall guy. And unfortunately it's usually the coach. So we'll see where he ends up. But I think he's an ideal coach in today's game. He can relate with players. He's got great offensive system. He's tough. So I still think his future is bright and light. And he's got a sweet Nick Nurse logo, which I'm a big fan of. It looks cool. Shams Paul Reed, update. Everyone loves a good B-Ball Paul update. So here's what I've got for you, Michelle. B-Ball Paul and the Sixers. They've had some extension conversations over the course of regular season. There have been offers made from what I'm told, but there's no deal as of right now. It doesn't look like they're gonna reach an agreement on a new extension. He's entering the last, he's in the last of his deal. He'll be entering free agency, restricted free agency this off season. And so when you look at what he's done in these playoffs, 7.3 points per game, seven rebounds per game, 58% shooting in only 16 minutes a game, that output that he puts in in such limited amount of time, it's clear he's gonna be valued around the league. He's helping himself with every game. So no extension for Paul Reed as of right now. He's gonna go into the market. It looks like as a restricted free agent. And some of the numbers that he's putting up, it's clear he's gonna get some attraction in free agency. It's gonna be okay. Shams, power nap time. We shall see you bright and early in the morning. For us, we will take a break. And when I come back, I'm going to tell you what it takes to be a winning parlay picker. And I'm gonna help Eddie and Chandler with the do's and don'ts of success when run it back returns. Yeah. Experience the NBA playoffs like never before with FanDuel, America's number one sports book. 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I have goals plus nine and a half. I just, I'd like to think this won't be a blowout, blowout, like a complete and full joke, but what do I know? That's gonna do it for us. Enjoy the games tonight. We'll be back bright and early in the morning.