 Good morning. Good afternoon. Good evening. Wherever you may be hailing from this is the fedora podcast episode number 37 I know this is not our usual time slots. No, I didn't click the go live button by accident We have a very special edition. We teased it last episode. We have a very special edition of the fedora podcast We changed the date and time Partly because when the the announcement was made but also due to some time zone challenges So no, eric has not lost his mind This was planned and i'm really really excited i'm really really excited to introduce our guests because Fedora and slim book actually made a huge announcement just a few days ago So with that said, let me bring on our guests and and introduce them to you all Gentlemen, thank you so much for joining me. I know it's late in the evening where you are Where you all are at. So thank you so much for joining me Hi, hello. Hello. Thank you for having us. It's a pleasure to be here. Yes Awesome. Yeah, I'm really excited. I'm watching our viewer count and there's people trickling in like wait We don't we don't have fedora podcast episodes at 9am central time in the us. What's going on? So if you have any questions for for our guests today, make sure you put them in chat Or if you're catching this after the fact throw them in the comments But with that said you guys are from from slim book. So why don't we introduce yourselves and then we'll we'll introduce What was announced? So vaja, why don't you kick us off? Uh, hello, my name is vaja. I'm from georgia I was born born there. So I came came here in spain and And since six years old I have been living here. So um I work at slim books and six months now And it's a I'm like a guy to work here with alejandro. Yes And well, I am alejandro from from spain. I I am the CEO of the of the company. I founded a slim book eight years ago And well, it's a a pleasure for for me Have a have better in in the team. It's a a great person and They are making big big things with with us Well, I like For for more more information about us. I like a Playing games In a tour and Well and play with with my daughter She she has three years old and I like I love linux and nothing more Three three is a really really fun age. Uh, I've got uh four kids in a blended family And my youngest is about to turn five and There are days where I miss when she couldn't talk because now she calls me out when dad says something that doesn't make sense. So But such a such a fun age and and uh, I trust that her dad will uh, will teach her all the linux things and uh, Um, and hopefully her first laptop is is a slim book Yeah, that would be perfect I know that the kids they need to learn at an early age The the linux community and the part of this beautiful community we have For sure. Yeah, I I am a huge fan of our community. Uh, that's part of the reason why uh, why I Work with the fedora podcast. It gives me a chance to meet and talk with uh, with people like yourselves From all over the globe from all different walks of life. It's it's a lot of fun Um, so why don't we kick this off with what was announced? We we uh, we I found out about this about a week ago and was was really excited. I've followed slim book Pretty much since since you founded the company. So what what was announced from from slim books perspective? Well, we are now we announced the fedora slim book edition laptop It's an ultra book laptop with Nvidia graphics card and 12 gen intel i7 processor And well, it's very sleek very unique design that blends with the stylish and modern laptops And just check check it out guys. It's very good product. We have so it comes with fedora pre-stand It's right right here. Oh good. We I didn't even think about show and tell That is beautiful the slim book logo right next to the fedora logo. I love it Yes, and that is super thin Oh my gosh, that looks amazing. I need to get my hands on one It comes with up to 64 gigabytes of ram et cetera et cetera. You can check it out the Detail set of our webpage fedora slim book.com. That's yes. Sorry And well, it's a collaboration between slim book and fedora and this couple of weeks It's been wonderful to collaborate with the fedora team and Well, it's here on the fedora slim book Yeah, so I'll throw that that link in the in the show notes and it's in the chat as well If you're catching the audio version, we are live on youtube and You should jump to the chapter marker About what was announced because what what a la hondro held up was very very sleek Laptop it very very much I my other life I have a macbook and And just the construction just the appearance gives that that refined Look that we've come to expect from from say an apple product But one of one of my favorite things about that about what you what you showed the audience was That where the super key goes or or from from other folks may notice the windows key Was not was not uh was not the windows logo. It was the fedora logo So when you go to hit the super key, it says fedora and I I Love the fact that we have such a good-looking laptop with the fedora branding on it and obviously it's it's got to run It's got to run linux out of the box so well This has been a really exciting partnership to kind of get to know So how how has uh, how has fedora and slim book kind of collaborated on this project? How did that how did that come to be? Sorry first of the The question 10 years ago, we in in the in the linux conferences All people have a apel laptops. No, it's it's It's it's good, but 10 years ago, we we thinking why all people have Apel laptops with with linux. We not other brands top level a high level high end for for this laptop and It's why we start this this adventure Yes, the There was a need for a good-looking modern and powerful laptop that comes with pre-installed linux and with 100% compatibility compatibility with linux systems like fedora this case There wasn't any much options in the market. So Alejandro come with the with this slim book option that we Until today we are offering a good product that comes with 100% linux compatibility laptops So this is why federal linux is one of the best in the market Love that and you you're you absolutely hit it that for years If you were a linux enthusiast you had to take take somebody else's branded laptop and and try and shove linux on top of it Like one of the best systems I ever had was a macbook 2013 edition and it ran arch like a champ Um, I mean those were back in the days when I didn't have kids and So I could run arch now now i'm now i'm all bought in on fedora But I mean a great looking laptop something that's performant that runs linux out of the box I love what you all are doing So I know the question that everybody's going to be asking is Where can I go to get it? Is it just is it just at the uh, is it at your all's? Digital storefront the the link that we provided or is it available through through third party vendors? Where else can we get our hands on this? and yes for now And that depends in the future, but for now you can access our Access and buy from our web page web page fedora That's slimbook.es and it's our online web store You can customize the What preference of ram and ssd you want and about a week you will have at home What about what about shipping? Are you all global or is it select countries? Yes global anywhere in the world Awesome. So I'm I'm in Kansas City, Missouri in the United States. So if you could get one, you know on the truck that'd be great Perfect sounds good in a week or maybe less depends on the How much we have right now the Shipping process you will have the The new laptop in about a week That's awesome So I also heard rumors That you had a discount program for fedora contributors, is that right? yes, yes Alejandro decided that the discount as for fedora or red hat contributors should have a more Access to this laptop because they are contributing fedora also and it's Why we Came up with this idea for them to have and this fedora laptop Okay, so we've had we've that's that's awesome. Um as as a red hatter and as a fedora contributor. I Even more compelling reason to go and check this out. My wife is not going to be thrilled with this episode So we we've had a couple of questions come in over chat about about some of the hardware The first question was about How how is this laptop with thermal efficiency? I mean we are talking about intel here And then you got a little smiley face emoji. So how how is thermal efficiency with with the laptop like this? well As you can expect it's intel and nvidia in the same chassis. So Our slim book fedora laptop it comes with double Ventilation double hit sync and It handles quite well. So depends of the user workload And in the bios we have also a setting that Changes depending on what you choose the silence mode or performance mode and if you want that The laptop should run quietly. You can enable the silent mode and it has a thermal limit that it can No longer exceed the temperatures And it also is quiet. So Also, you can enable the performance mode and it doesn't restrict anything Hmm And so As a follow-up to that you mentioned that it's intel and nvidia And so the question that came in was How does the nvidia card work out of the box? We know that nvidia drivers require a few extra steps to enable under fedora and under a lot of different linux distributions So does the image does the system come pre imaged or are there easy steps that maybe Maybe a handout in the box or something that helps a new user enable the nvidia card Worship our fedora slim book laptop with vanilla settings. So once the for example, you You receive the new fedora slim book laptop You've opened it and the first thing that tells you is enter your username and after that it asks you if you want novel drivers or proprietary drivers, so Depends of the user entirely So no modifications only the fedora you expect Guess so after the episode I may go and see if I can track down a recent blog post on on how to enable both the no view No, I Difficult to pronounce that Or or the proprietary drivers. So that that'll be good to to have in our show notes One of the other questions that came in was I mean it it is a good-looking laptop, but how how's the battery life? And well also that depends of the user it has 82 watt hour battery and also it has 16 inch screen with three care resolution So depends of the brightness the workload Everything depends, but we don't like to give the users area I'm a regular office user most of the time i'm working in slide decks. I'm attending virtual meetings Uh, a lot of times my laptops are not heavily taxed. So if i'm just doing regular office type work What what kind of uh if I take it to a coffee shop or something could I expect to get an eight hour charge out of it? Six to eight hours. Perfectly That's Yeah, that's that's always a loaded question of How great's the battery? Well, I mean if you're running six different very Resource intensive applications all at once and you're doing video editing then probably not that much, but yeah That's true of any any battery. But uh, yeah, I should have given you a scenario to work off of I kind of set you up for that one. Sorry about that It's okay Okay, so let's see we we've kind of got caught up on chat. We've got some we've got some future looking questions here But we'll circle back to those um So shifting gears a little bit because I know we've got a few uh frequent viewers on the show that uh that are big fans of spins And uh, so you mentioned that it's it's just fedora workstation out of the box very vanilla not not anything customized not anything specifically tailored Pretty much because fedora does pretty much all of its work upstream anyway So anything that gets introduced into the upstream kernel would would find its way into the fedora kernel Uh, so what about spins? Uh, would there be options for preloaded spins in the future? Maybe something like uh fedora kde or uh, I know we've got a lot of folks that are big fans of the upcoming, uh, budgie spin Hmm Well, the user the user can can install another distributions, but um The the flower of fedora is chosen by by fedora For this laptop, please. Yes The The decision the decision comes from fedora itself. So, uh, we are not Uh Telling the user to not to pre-install anything The user is free to install anything they want But the fedora slim book laptop Comes with pre-installed vanilla out of the box With genome, of course So And i'm pretty sure I know who submitted that question Uh, so it'd be very easy to just go up go out to get fedora.org Grab any of the spins isos whether it's whether it's uh, Whether it's onyx, which I think is coming up here fairly soon Whether it's the kde spin any of these anything that that is fedora-based and Throw it on usb stick plug it into the laptop re-image the laptop and you'd get You'd get a reasonable performance from from any of the spins no matter what they are. Yes The user is the main The owner of the machine so doesn't void any warranty or Anything like that. So the user user Can download the any Fedora flavor they want installing the usb and run it The same day if they want And so another pre-submitted question we had along the same lines was Fedora is listed among a number of distros that can be pre-installed on a lot of your different devices What is the what is the Testing process look like how do you validate that that a distribution works well on top of slim book? Well, we first install like any other laptop or user We just the performance what we could expect versus what we are getting so We test webcam Keyboard the trackpad touchpad. I mean we tested everything that could be Some if something goes wrong the user should not expect anything like that. We can detect it before the user detects so We tried also the next version of fedora and Works just as Issued so no problem for that um, so it does look like uh, the model i'm looking at does have usb c which was uh, one of the one of the questions We had in chat There's more geared towards thunderbolt, but uh Yes, it's thunderbolt 4 thunderbolt 4 with 40 gigabytes of and bandwidth It's support. Oh, wow Yes, it supports Display port and hdmi and power supply power supply. Yes, you can charge your laptop also and up to 14 cores 20 threads. I mean, yes, this is this is an amazing amazing device i7 12 1700 yes h and It runs very well, so check it out guys Oh, let's see All right, sorry. We we had a barrage of questions come in and i'm i'm kind of uh, I see you So one of the themes in the questions that we've been getting is Did did fedora really get any any special treatment? But and and whether you're deciding on what addition of fedora to run whether you're talking about What hardware to select but looking at at your main site? It looks like fedora was just able to To just be shipped with a slim book. It didn't look like anything specific went into this. Is that correct? uh, well our standard choices Works with linux And then work with with fedora, no Just the Fedora and slim book has the same idea. So it's uh, why not? and uh And and there's there's a question in chat here that uh, I want to bring up and and this was on my list as well So the million dollar question Are there plans in the future for amd addition whether that cpu gpu both? Because I know that that I I'm most of my hardware in the house now is is amd based. So is is amd in the future Well, uh, maybe it might be in the in the future. Uh, this would still have another questions because uh, for example a Thunderbolt 4 is uh Intel property and uh, no No, many laptops have no, no many amd laptops have thunderbolt 4 it's uh licensed it's uh licensed only for intel. Yes, and some Other laptops but not all laptops. Yes some amd laptops has thunderbolt, but you have to license it That's I think what wants to mean well The amd version of fedora's limbo laptop depends entirely of the success of the this edition so Why not we are not closing any doors in the in the future if The community wants amd fedora's limbo laptop We would like to do that but for now only intel Yeah, that's depends also for the community Also sounds like slingbook fedora and the linux community at large has work to do on on some of the bigger corporations to To get some more freedom as as far as what hardware options are available Yes, we are working with several models of slingbooks right now, but the most uh How do I say that we are thinking of Another laptop the same ones but in 14 inch that depends of the success of this version but of course the community has to speak if they want to The same one without the nvidia graphics card the same processor the same Chassis the same touch pad but in the 14 inch version and with the same tax key the fedora tax key and the fedora logo and the chasis Yeah, and I would uh, I would throw my vote in for for a 14 inch Most of my workloads are cloud focused now A lot of my demos that I I do for work are built on one cloud or another So I don't really need a lot of compute power with me I spend a lot of time at airports and in conference centers. So Small light weights and and portable are usually things I look for in a laptop So I don't know if the the it guy word is it carries a lot of weight with slim book, but uh, there's my vote Why not For the Powerfulness, it's the same i7. So there should be any differences, but the graphics card Yeah Letting letting go of the the graphics card Where it would be a huge boost in both weight and and battery life So and and I see a few a few of votes for 14 inch in in the chat as well. So One thing I love about the fedora community is we we are very open and very welcoming But also also slightly opinionated So So I noticed this question a little bit earlier It looks like you've got desktops laptops and some peripherals There's there's a question about any thoughts about producing a slim phone That runs fedora Well I don't know The smartphones is a it's a another market It's a it's a different market a very very competitive with very competitors Yeah, it's a completely different market Yes, some other brands of spanish brands try to do that and I mean the people choose iphone samsung and Not many Yes, it's a it's a difficult way I think that you you remember a purisma. I think that the the people are asking for it and It's a very big advantage for for purism and they have They had a many problems with it With a final success, but it's a long long adventure Long way Well, maybe maybe slim book will make such a fortune off of selling fedora slim books that That you just You know, you've got so much money to throw at this idea that that the slim phone will will be the future Yeah, why not we hope so All right any any closing thoughts any anything you want to anything you want to mention anything we didn't cover We kind of blew through the through the agenda really quick Well Nothing else Any Questions for us from the community. I see a lot of questions right there in the comment section, but Nothing else from our side. We have to collaborate to make linux better every day. So This is why also the collaboration between fedora and slim book Yes, it's important for us to collaborate with linux entities with fedora with you know And make linux a better place for for all So during during the pre pre show we were talking about why we do this live versus prerecorded And I think I think the the folks that showed up today Are a prime example of why I prefer to do this live Just because they like tripled the list of questions that I had to bring up on today's episode so thank you very much to the fedora community that that That jumped up here and and you know, we had a different different time of day in fact, we did back to back episodes usually the shows every other week, but Because of the timing of the announcement we we managed to squeeze in an extra episode, but Really really Excited that the fedora community hung out with us and and had some questions for you all they they really make the content Even even better. I can I can only do so much and and having folks show up and ask questions really appreciate that and and I'm very appreciative that the two of you were willing to jump on and Really excited that you all were agreed to jump on and Be pounded with questions for 30 minutes. So really appreciate that So as we as we wrap up fedora slim book just announced Brand new hardware platform beautiful laptop has the fedora logo anywhere. We could find to put it. It's on it's on the top It's it's on the super key. Yeah. Yeah bring that bring that beautiful laptop back up on the on the screen So if you're if you're watching the the audio edition definitely go to Go to Was it fedora dot slim book dot es that link will be in the show notes whether it's the live Whether it's youtube or wherever you get your podcast that will be in the show notes after the episode goes live And that is available right now So you can go out you can spec it out you can buy it And then in case you missed it earlier want to bring up the the the fact that if you're red hat if you're a red hat Or fedora contributor. There's actually a discount and I don't think we covered this before but What what kind of discount are we talking like? like one percent fifty percent free About a hundred dollars hundred and five dollars and with the conversion it's hundreds euros. So Just email us with your fedora account And we'll take care of the discount The carbon discount. Yes awesome Yeah, so if you are a fedora contributor, then definitely email the the team at slim book and and get your discount Uh, you know hundred bucks a hundred hundred five bucks a hundred euros. That's that's nothing to nothing to scoff at these days So that's awesome. So if you're a part of the community, definitely go and get a get a slim book I'm hoping in in the 2024 linux fest uh circuit that I see a bunch of these all over the place We can we can start to push maybe some some macbooks out of the out of the conference now that we've got a really good Look in a slim book to to compete with it With that said, thank you all very much for joining us Really excited, whether you caught it live whether you're catching it after the fact The audio edition usually goes out about 24 hours after the the live edition It takes some time to get the the audio synced up to get everything cleaned up But uh really excited and if you didn't notice we had our new bumpers in It was really excited that uh that we got that done We've got to fix up the the transition a little bit But I mean the music the the animation you have to see it here first So our special edition slim book episode also included the uh the intro bumper that we've been working on really I'm excited. I started doing fedora podcast episodes about six seven months ago and uh Our our audience has grown the the community of participation has grown And I say that not in part to thank the audience but also because next week Yes, we're doing three episodes in three weeks. It's craziness, but here in three weeks We're going to have neil gapa on he is a longtime fedora contributor He he works on just about everything. I see him in the sento s world. I see him in fedora world Um There's a little bit of everything everywhere. Uh, so I don't think the guy sleeps He's also uh, he also took over my seat on the pseudo show is one of the hosts there So there's just the guy does stuff everywhere. So we're actually going to have an ongoing like Story arc if you will about uh, how do you fedora? And so we're going to have neil on He's going to talk about his experiences with the fedora community how he got involved And what he's doing today in the fedora community. So Definitely looking forward to having more of those episodes. Definitely looking forward to catching up with neil He and I haven't talked much Work's been crazy and and so So really looking forward to catching up with neil with that said Definitely check us out on the fedora discussion board. There's usually an episode Thread so you can keep the conversation going Make sure to subscribe hit that like button That way we know what content resonates with you Uh on on behalf of the fedora community alhandro and vaja. Thank you guys for joining us And uh, I have been eric the it guy hindricks. So thank you all for joining us and we will see you next time Thank you