 What's good, Joshua, but Ross back again with another video. So I'm going to check out Chavo Guerrero on Benoit's murder slash suicide. Now we all know about the Crispin wall situation. It's still one of the wrestling's darkest moments. No one expected him to do that. And it's just a touchy subject. Anytime you bring up Crispin wall, anytime he's even mentioned, it's not talking about his in ring work and his, you know, the things that he brought to the wrestling business. It's usually ends up being about this situation, which is just tragic in itself. So we're going to check this out. See what Chavo Guerrero had to say about this whole situation. Appreciate all of the support you guys have shown on the channel. And let's get right into this one, man. So what happened that last that last weekend? And then we, you guys were traveling together. It was just you two at this point in time, right? That's true. You know, oh, well, Scott, I would jump in every once a while with us, you know, right, kind of the three of us, you know, and so you'd meet at the airport for the beginning of a loop. Yeah, I fly in from California. Heat flying from from Georgia. We fly into wherever they say we flew into, you know, Louisiana. We'd meet and then we, you know, someone of us would get the car and then we would travel four days together. And then we dropped the car off the airport and we fly our separate ways home for two days and right back. And that was for, you know, eight straight months. So this one was a little different because we're close to to Georgia. Right. So I end up staying, we went home at any time, you know, a wrestler can spend the night in his own bed. He does, whether it's 300 mile drive or 500 mile drive because we're, you know, we're never home in our, in our beds. So we were able to go to his house and I'd never seen his house. He moved away from everybody. He moved to the rural, rural part of Atlanta just so because, you know, he was such a, you know, a loner. He's a low roof and that he didn't want, you know, people to know kind of where he lived and stuff. He had a P.O. box. Really? Yeah. The whole deal. Did you ever go to his house? Yeah. So we went to his house and stayed at his house. And I remember he said, Hey, I'm really private. Please, please don't tell anybody about my house, you know, how it is. And I was like, All right, cool. No problem. No problem, Chris. So we stayed there. And was you and Scott? No, me by myself. He and I, so we stayed there that night and got up in the morning and he, you know, by the time I woke up here, I had steaks and eggs ready to go for us and the protein diet, you know, ready to go. We're going to work out, you know, and I saw his son Daniel there. And, you know, I was the cruiserway champ at the time. So I had, I gave, you know, Daniel the belt. He, you know, he really wanted to see the belt. So I know that he went to Chris and his dad, canna, canna. And so Chris was like, Ask him, ask him, can I, can I see your belt? And I was like, Yeah, of course. So he held the belt. Okay. You're the champ. We put them on to pictures with him, the whole deal, you know, and all that. So we went from there and did our loop, did our, you know, for, and what's crazy is he was a family man. That's what I think that's what kind of shocked the whole wrestling world is this guy was a family man. He loved his family. So for someone to love their family and then to go to that dark place and to ultimately do what he did to his family is, it's, it's crazy. That is, that's just mind boggling, bro. You would never think someone that really, truly loves their family would do something like that. So it's just, that's what probably made it so shocking for everybody. Four days together. And then we ended up, ended up in North Carolina, Charlotte, I believe, because we, we'd have seen an old friend from WCW. Remember Donna Seaman, Donna and her sister Deb. We'd up the last night of the loop before we all get her into fly home. We went to go eat with them at night after the show. So we went and ate and stuff. And I just remember Chris ordering shots like a tequila. Yeah, we're doing a tequila shot. Every once in a while, he'd be like, he'd never, you know, he'd have a couple beers and that was it. But once in a while, he'd like, okay, let's do this. Or let's start drinking or eat a whole cheesecake. He'd never ate a sweet and then one day just like eat a whole one. Yeah, yeah. And like, what are you doing? Yeah. On the cheesecake. Yeah. Yeah. But the whole thing in his mouth. Yeah. The whole piece. And then laugh. Yeah. So he didn't order any shots. We're doing shots of tequila and stuff and have a good time. And then I was pretty jacked up, you know. So we go, we go to our own room. I go to sleep and we got to get up in two hours to catch his flight. So I'm sleeping except my alarm or everything. Well, we probably had eight shots tequila, you know, a few beers. So next year, you know, I hear the door bang it. Bam, bam, bam, bam. What the heck is that? Bam, what was I, I'm not going to dream. What, what I go to. He was like, Chavo, we got to go. I'm like, what time is it? Oh man. I slept through my alarm. I never sleep through my alarm ever. I slept through my alarm. I was like, oh my, we got to catch his flight. So we jumped in the, in the, we didn't no shower. We, I mean, I was, I just threw all the stuff in my bag and we jumped to the car and we raced to the airport. And I ended up, we have, you know, getting to the plane and he made his flight. I missed my flight from. Okay. Right. I missed my flight. So he made it just barely. You know, I had a miss on my flight. So I cut, you know, the next flight out an hour later. When I landed in my connection, I landed in North Carolina. So he went to Atlanta and went on our flight. I had to go to Texas. I think I landed in Dallas. So I get a call from him. Hey man, just checking up on you. Do you, you know, do you make it okay? So yeah, man, I'm okay. Thanks. You know, thanks for getting me up. And I, I never sleep through my alarm. No problem, man. No problem, no problem. So I went my way. He went his way. And in two and a half days, we were going to hook up again. You know, we were on the road again. So now it's a Belmont Texas, I believe. And I was on like a Saturday or Friday. This is now Saturday. And what's crazy is how these guys just, it's like a routine for them. They're just, they're constantly on the go to another city to do another show. Like that's crazy how on the go they are. And that's why once again, you got to give respect to these wrestlers because they don't, they get time with the family, but not much because they're always on the road. There's always a show they got to go to and you got to make sure they connected certain flights and stuff like that. It's, it's, it's, it can be hectic, man. Morning. Okay. So the, the first one we left about it from probably Wednesday morning. Yeah. So now it's Saturday morning early. I land in Dallas. My connection and we always, that's, we always get on the phone and, you know, be in coordinate. What time you get in? Yeah. The whole deal. I'll pick you up or he'll pick me up, whatever. So I call him. No answer. Then all of a sudden I get a call from him. And he's like, uh, call right back. Hey, Chavo. Hey, what's up? And he sounds just off. I'm like, man, you okay? He's like, yeah, I'm cool, man. Just, just really bad. A really, really just bad weekend. I just, you know, Daniel and Nancy are sick. His wife, you know, and, you know, I bet you're actually talking to him at this point. I'm talking to him. Yeah. And he's, and this is basically after he's probably killed his life. Yes. Yeah. Yes. They're sick. Damn. Oh, he doesn't, Chavo doesn't even know. Damn. So he's just thinking he's having a regular conversation and. Damn. You know, they're not feeling good. And I'm like, all right, all right, cool. And were you coming? Yeah, I missed my flight. I missed my flight, but don't worry. I'm catching the flight and, and I'll be there. Okay. I could just call me when you get in and I'll pick up, you know, no matter what time it is. You know, I, we were landing in Houston. They had to drive to Belmont and, um, I was like, you know, don't worry about it. We're late. We're late. No, I'll wait for you. Okay. Okay. So he gets out the, he getting ready to get off the phone and, and he goes, he makes a point where he stops. He goes, Chavo, Chavo. I go, yeah. And he goes, I love you. I said, I love you too, man. Was it too odd, you know, off, off kilter because we always tell each other we love each other. Yeah. But this was really forced. It was not, it was not forced. It was really like made a point of it. It was like, Hey man, okay. I love you brother. Okay. No, it was like Chavo, I love you. I want you to understand this. Basically, if you, don't forget this coming from a man with very few words. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, All right. I love you too, bro. So I hung up and I felt that was strange. So I call him right back and I go, Hey man, are you, are you all right? I'm fine, man. Like I said, I just had a real hard weekend, you know, and, and just, you know, you know, real hard weekend and they had to go to take him, you know, Daniel and Nancy to the hospital and I'm like, Oh, okay, man. Well, I'm here. Okay. Okay, man. Okay. Cool. Cool. So then hung up and that was the last I actually talked to him. I guess he'd call Scott Armstrong too. We, he and I hooked up. Scotty, we hooked up and we ended up driving, waiting for Chris. No call, no call, no call. I'm calling. Hey dude, did you miss your flight? Did you make another new flight? No call, no answer, no answer. Okay. Well, I guess we've got to drive. Well, if we got to come back, you know, we said, if we got to come back from and go pick them up, we will. So we went to the show and, you know, the agents are asking, where's Chris? Well, this is a house show. House show, house show. Where's Chris? Chris, the next day was, was, was a paid pay-per-view in Houston. Well, I'm like, I don't know, man. I don't, I don't know. Um, this is fly. You know, he's going to, okay, okay. So, um, we drive to Houston. The next day, me and me and Scotty and, uh, and still no word. Joe, no from Chris. We're calling him. Okay. Nothing. I get some texts on my phone at probably five a.m. And I get texts from Chris. So you wake up in the morning. You've got not even before I woke me up before the five in the morning. So I look and I look at the, uh, my text and I'm like, that's weird. It says the dogs are in the enclosed pool area. The garage door is open. I looked at it. I was like, well, that's weird. Is this one of those texts you get, you know, sometimes you get texts, you know, from three days ago, you never delivered it. And then all of a sudden you got a text. And this was kind of the start of texting. You know, now it's a little different. But back then, 2007, a lot of times, you know, texts didn't come through or they got lost. And also you got them. And I was like, well, let's get in half a text, half a text. Yeah, that was weird. So, so okay. I wrote it off. Then I get another text from Nancy's phone from his wife's phone and it said the same thing, you know, the same text. That's really weird. Okay. Whatever I kind of wrote off. So then got to get up in two hours. So I got up, I look at, um, I go downstairs to meet Scotty Armstrong and I look at him. I go, did you get some weird, anything weird last night happened? And he goes, yeah, I got some weird texts from, from Chris. I said, me too. Did it say this? It goes, yeah. So we call Chris no answer, no answer, no answer. That's weird. So we go to the pay-per-view. Chris isn't showing up and they're asking us, where's he at? I'm not sure. We're not sure where he's at. Now we're covering for him. We think maybe, you know, you may be lying. Yeah. No, you know, we're blatant, you know, whatever. We're just coming from, no, haven't heard from him. I don't know what's going on. Okay. Great. Didn't tell us anything about the text. Nothing. Did you feel something was going on weird? Something, something was going on. Something was going on. And I remember Art Anderson saying, especially if he sent this text. To multiple people that he knew and trust by hey, that's, I mean, once again, they, they got a lot going on. There's a pay-per-view. They got to get ready for it. So there's a lot going on. Of course, on the surface, you would think, whoa, that's a red flag. Why would they be, why would he send out a text describing where the dogs are and the garage is open, all this other stuff. But at the time, I'm sure they weren't thinking that they were just, you know, kind of trying to figure out where he was. But at the same time, they also got to figure out, you know, get ready for a pay-per-view and all this other stuff. So they're focusing on multiple things, but still like, I don't know what's going on with Chris, but they didn't want to alert nobody yet. But damn, bro, this is just eerie. This is later on the day because he was supposed to wrestle the pay-per-view. He was supposed to wrestle with the title. Yeah. The ECW championship against CM Punk, he was supposed to wrestle for him, wrestle him. And this is a big match. And I remember Art Anderson saying, you know what, if Benoit didn't show up with no word, he's either has just taken off to like Alaska and he's going to be like, you know, a merchant Marine or something, or he's dead basically. That's, I remember him saying that, not meaning it, but there's something going on for him not to show up. And either option being just as viable because I can see him just going off to become a merchant Marine and saying, yeah, yeah. And being gone, you know, based on the ending of Dexter, right? Um, and then, uh, so I didn't say anything. We didn't say anything. The next day we're in Corpus Christi for a Super Show, another Super Show. And, uh, those damn Super Shows, man. Handle this guy. Yeah. But you still didn't know anything. We still didn't know. We've been calling, been calling, been calling. So finally I go to Johnny, I say, go Johnny. Johnny was the head of towel relations. Go Johnny. This is my phone. This is what I got yesterday. And he's like, you know, with his Johnny voice. Hey, what are you talking about? Why didn't you show me this yesterday? I said, Johnny, we're trying to cover for him. Be honest with you. I didn't know what was going on. We're covering for him. He's like, oh, I ended up getting on the phone. So I guess they called the Atlanta police or whatever. And, and I don't know anything about it. You know, that's the last thing I heard. And then all of a sudden, about an hour later, they do a big old meeting at the ring with all the wrestlers. And then they did this periodically, you know, to talk about, you know, yeah, they would have like a, like a team meeting and what the company is going or, you know, Vince had to say something big, you know, so we go to the meeting. We're sitting there and I look at Ric Flair and Ric Flair is crying. And I go, Rick, what's going on? And he goes, they're gone. I said, what do you mean they're gone? And I, this is before anybody. Do you know? And he goes, Daniel Nancy and Chris. I said, what do you mean they're gone? Oh my, oh, bro. This is, uh, I, uh, I can only imagine I'm starting to get emotional just hearing that. I can only imagine. You, someone telling you they're gone. They don't give you any context. You're like, what are you talking about? They're gone. Ah, that's tough, bro. I had, I had to hear it from his mouth. I couldn't hear his, hear that. He said, they're gone. What do you mean they're gone? Those are dead. It's just now right now, my heart just dropped again. That's why I thought I was there. And, and Vince hadn't announced it to everybody yet. And I'm sitting there next to everybody and I just put my head down and was like, what? Are you kidding me? This is a two years or a year and a half after Eddie died. Yeah. You know, I had another friend. This happened to another friend of mine. I was like, what are you talking about? And sure enough, man, I, then all of a sudden Vince announces it to people and saying, we don't know the circumstances at this time. All we know is that there's been a death and Chris Benoit was no longer with us and his son and his wife are no longer with us either. We don't know the circumstances. We don't know what's going on. So we're taking tonight, making a tribute show to Chris. Oh, I pulled Vince. I, we can grab them in the back and was like, what happened? I don't, what happened? And he's just hugged me and I'm, I'm crying on Vince. Not again. Not again. No, this is starting to get me, bro. That's just starting to get me. I ain't gonna hold you. That's just starting to get me, bro. Despite what, what he ended up doing, that's still just from a perspective of a friend. He just lost Eddie Guerrero. He just lost him. We just lost him. Like he said, it was like maybe a year and a half and then to lose another good friend. And you have no idea what's going on. Jesus, bro. I get out and cry on it. He's hugging me like a child. I mean, he's hugging me like really tight, you know, and I was like, what, what the heck? You serious? Yeah, it was interesting because I'd been talking to Brian Gowertz and he called me earlier in the day and said, I gotta tell you there's a place that we're gonna love because what I found out afterwards that Bruce Campbell was originally gonna be on the show because that show was a funeral for Vince who had just been blown up. That's right. That's right. And they had Bruce Campbell who's, you know, from Evil Dead and you know, the actor and he's, I'm a big fan. He's got some, I gotta tell you, he left a message. Yeah. So I went to the gym and worked out with my son, Ash, got back in the car, called him back and he's like, total change. I'm like, hey, what's going on, man? What do you got to tell me? And he's like, you're not gonna want to hear this. And I was thinking like, you just told me to call him back, right? Yeah. He goes, he goes, this is horrible. I mean, I was thinking, because he said earlier, I got to tell you something about Vince. And when I talked to him, I thought he was gonna say that Vince is gonna go on the air and like bury me or something. He goes, this is horrible. I didn't know what he was talking about. And then he said the same thing. He's gone. Who's gone? Chris. I'm like, Chris, who? Yeah. Yeah. Which Chris are you talking about? Benoit and then Nancy and Daniel. Same thing with me. Huge whale. I remember my son. I'll never forget. He goes, daddy, you cry funny because I had to pull over on the side of the road. And I was like, you said he just I knew that it sounded like Chris. I'm guessing this must have been like on Chris Jericho's podcast or whatnot. I knew it sounded like Chris. But yeah, even that's just tough, bro. That's just tough. Even though I know Chris is kind of in some hot water right now. I didn't know this interview was from from Chris. I know he's kind of hot water right now, but still, I know how close he was to Crispin Waugh as well. So it's just finding out that horrible news. It's just never good. It just don't. I can't even imagine, man. It's like all three of them. Right. And then would they have carbon monoxide poisoning? Do they have food poisoning? At the point of time, nobody knew anything. There was no details. What were the boys saying? Were the speculation? What was it? There was nothing. We didn't know it. We were like, what do mean he's gone? And what happened? We don't know he's gone. We didn't know. Yeah. And then that's the thing. And then when you actually did find out what had happened, it was still to this day, we still don't know what happened. And there's really no still don't know what happened. And then and then what you actually found out what really happened that, you know, there's the details behind it with, with, you know, Nancy being, you know, killed him killing him and killing the son and then hanging himself for like, that's not the guy we knew. That's just not the guy getting you. Yeah. And then there's so many, you know, like we said, we never know for sure. I still think that it's the concussion thing. Sure. Definitely good hardening of your brain. Absolutely. You know, I'm actually going to have Chris the winsky on to talk to him about it. He actually studied Ben was brain. He helped me when I had my big cushion because the, you know, the doctors didn't know anything. Yeah. Just like, yeah, there was no protocol. It was not like when I tore my bicep, they were like, Hey, you're in a sling for four months. And right. No, it was like, well, you, I go, when can I go back to work? Well, when you feel better? Well, Chris calls me and and the whiskey caused me and really, really, you know, I think like you said, I think it was, it was maybe one of the first times this had ever happened. And now with all the research that's been done, if there is symptoms or signs, you would know about it. But back in 2007, I think Chris's case might have been the very first, hey, we'll never know for sure, but it gives me some kind of closure that I can at least believe that my friend just didn't go completely insane for no reason. Sure. At least that gives me a reason. I know. And I feel your pain. And it could have just been easily one of us with all the amount of pain we've done and all the damage we've had, et cetera, et cetera. And understandable. That's that's a fair point, bro. That's a fair point because if if you've seen any Chris Benoit match them head butts from the top rope diving on the people at some point, that's going to catch up to you. The chair shots he was taking at some point is going to catch up to you, you know, and there was there really wasn't that I guess you could say a protocol to make, you know, make sure that when wrestlers had concussions that they were, you know, checked out, it was more so just like, hey, whenever you're able to get back in there and and do what you got to do, let us know because the wrestling businesses, it's a revolving door. The longer you're out, the there's the better chance you lose your top spot. And it was always about making sure you stayed at the top or, you know, Vince will move on. And it's just it's just tragic. That whole situation is just tragic, bro. Like it made me get emotional just hearing other people that are close to him and them finding out the way they did. It's just it's tough. It's tough, you know, prayers go out once again to just, you know, the rest of the family, bro, even it's been many, many years. It's still that's something that don't ever go away. It doesn't it never goes away. Now his other son just happened to not be there, but that he'll I'm sure he still thinks about that. He tries to move on and try to live his life the best way he can. But it's just that's just something that'll never truly, truly go away. Man, it's it's it's very, very sad and and it's just I don't even have really words for it other than it's one of the saddest moments in wrestling history, bro. Comment down below. Let me know. How did you guys feel when you initially heard when you initially found out that Crispin War was dead? How did how did that make you feel when you initially found out before you knew anything else related to what was the cause of death and what he had did in the end? How did it go? How did that make you feel? I know me personally, I just couldn't believe I was like, what the fuck, bro? We just lost Eddie. What the hell is going on? It was that was a hard episode. I remember watching that episode. I was that was a tough one, bro. That was full weed. I was a tough one. I was definitely a tough one, but I appreciate all loves for you guys channel and channel road to 150 K and I'm still getting speedy you to rest and champion the world. Appreciate y'all kicking in with me. See you on next one. Peace.