 and don't see themselves as the victims of male subjugation or male oppression. And I would like to say that as someone who's been involved in academic work and university teaching for many years, I've seen all sorts of workshops and conferences and programs that are designed to help men overcome their toxic masculinity. Now, I think that a conference called Make Women Great Again is a lot more benign sounding, a lot more positive. A conference that is about men and women connecting and talking about love and marriage. What makes a marriage work is a lot more positive. Okay, let's hold you. What we see now, which is a lot of women telling men, a lot of women telling men what men need to do in order to be decent human beings. That is a very sad point.